00:02.23 | CosmicPenguin | lo |
00:03.14 | sorphin | sup? |
00:12.50 | CosmicPenguin | nada |
01:05.41 | Russ | sorphin: ya, there was an issue with a fan clutch |
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15:39.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: morning |
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15:52.05 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
15:52.19 | CosmicPenguin | snow finally fell this weekend |
15:53.45 | sorphin | nod |
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16:12.13 | kergoth | hey |
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16:21.26 | pattieja | morning kergoth |
16:21.42 | pattieja | anybody seen these new Toshiba Magnia SG20 Servers? |
16:22.18 | pattieja | TigerDirect.com is selling them for $294.99; Micro/Data Warehouse is selling them (on their website) for $299 |
16:22.29 | pattieja | $399.95 on the front of their magazines |
16:24.23 | Tangent | Mirrored disks... pretty damned good for $294 |
16:24.55 | pattieja | Tangent: but why is it so cheap? TigerDirect.com is comparing it at and average of $1300.00 from everywhere else |
16:25.21 | kergoth | hmm |
16:26.52 | Tangent | I've got the urge to spend lots of money I don't have... |
16:27.02 | Tangent | must resist.... |
16:27.59 | kergoth | hmm, thats tempting |
16:29.22 | Tangent | I've been making a list for 18 months of all the things I'd buy once I'd paid my huge tax bill.... I've now paid the bill and as such have no money right now... but toys budget is just around the corner once again :) |
16:29.42 | Tangent | I've been browsing for 'products I might like to purchase'... There's lots of them |
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16:30.03 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Hola... |
16:30.11 | sorphin | Tangent: whoa, they let you out huh? ;) |
16:30.36 | Tangent | sorphin: Nah.. Someone smuggled a wlan card in ;) |
16:31.05 | sorphin | Tangent: hey, whatever works ;) |
16:31.57 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: hola back to ya! Redstar taken already? |
16:33.34 | Tangent | What the current state of play on the tuxscreens? I want basically want NFS and X |
16:33.52 | Tangent | My homeautomation application's basically ready for the tux now |
16:34.51 | pattieja | Tangent: just found the SG10, a lighterweight version of the SG20. Only 64MB RAM, a K6-2E 350MHz processor, and a 20GB 4200RPM drive (yes, 4200RPM) |
16:35.03 | pattieja | otherwise the same except for no PCMCIA slot |
16:35.09 | pattieja | $199.99 on TigerDirect.com |
16:35.11 | Tangent | pattieja: 4200rpm = 2.5 inch |
16:35.23 | pattieja | hmm... laptop components? |
16:35.30 | pattieja | I think the SG20 had 7200RPM drives |
16:35.34 | Tangent | Sounds like it |
16:37.51 | sorphin | pattieja: thought laptop drives were 4400? |
16:38.58 | pattieja | ouch! Toshiba's selling the SG20 for $1,399.00 and up |
16:39.32 | sorphin | pattieja: what is it ? |
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16:40.31 | sorphin | GPSFan: morning ken |
16:41.01 | GPSFan | sorphin: Hi dan. |
16:41.08 | sorphin | GPSFan: sup ? |
16:41.43 | GPSFan | sorphin: : not much, bad weekend. still somewhat in shock. |
16:42.37 | sorphin | GPSFan: oh ? |
16:42.47 | pattieja | sorphin: http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/pc/pc_prodDetail.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0594266654.1044290262@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccchadchgdhdddgcgfkceghdgngdgli.0&comm=CS&plin=Appliance%20Servers&pfam=Magnia%20SG20%20Business%20Series&poid=247073&Adoid=205377 |
16:42.58 | sorphin | oh lord |
16:43.02 | pattieja | wow that's a huge URL |
16:43.07 | sorphin | 4 lines ;p |
16:43.38 | kergoth | heh |
16:43.45 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Yeag....That's too bad, I like redstar better |
16:43.52 | kergoth | pattieja: hm, i needed a new firewall, i think i'll pick one of those up |
16:44.25 | pattieja | kergoth: if you could, find out why they are selling so cheap |
16:44.42 | pattieja | kergoth: Toshiba's selling them for $1399 up to around $1700 |
16:44.50 | pattieja | based on what's on them |
16:45.03 | kergoth | odd. |
16:45.12 | pattieja | it seems very suspicious to me why they would be selling them for $200 and $300 |
16:45.15 | GPSFan | sorphin: : Columbia disaster... I did some work for NASA in the past, the astronauts are really fine people. Very close community. |
16:45.23 | sorphin | GPSFan: ah |
16:45.41 | sorphin | GPSFan: i see it as nasa dropped the ball again, they saw something fall off, and let them go anyways |
16:47.10 | GPSFan | sorphin: the NASA management left (and still leaves) a lot to be desired. Many different versions of "catch-22" too. |
16:47.48 | pattieja | sorphin: what fell off? |
16:48.01 | pattieja | I heard about the insulation, but I could never see it on the videos |
16:48.18 | pattieja | they put this contrast circle on the screen, but I never saw anything |
16:48.21 | pattieja | must be blink |
16:48.26 | pattieja | blind, that is |
16:48.41 | sorphin | that's the thing i was talking about |
16:51.14 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: Sam was disappointed that you didn't say goodbye to him... :) |
16:51.52 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: its not like they could have aborted the flight or not allowed the shuttle to return to earth |
16:55.23 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: still |
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16:55.29 | sorphin | prpplague: lo |
16:56.01 | prpplague | howdy howdy |
16:56.04 | GPSFan | prpplague: Hi.. |
16:56.16 | prpplague | whats cookin today? |
16:57.09 | GPSFan | prpplague: we got 3-4" snow last night :-) |
16:57.10 | sorphin | prpplague: blaming nasa |
16:57.19 | prpplague | GPSFan: fun |
16:57.29 | prpplague | GPSFan: its 73F outside today |
16:57.36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you were right in the thick of things on Saturday? |
16:57.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep, piece feel a couple miles from the house |
16:58.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: damn |
16:58.25 | GPSFan | prpplague: it was 60 on Sat and 24 now. |
16:59.34 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan: same in Utah - 60 degrees on Friday and 4 inches of snow on Sunday |
17:00.20 | GPSFan | CosmicPenguin: we are glad to have the moisture, still in bad drought here. |
17:05.55 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan: same here |
17:06.10 | CosmicPenguin | GPSFan: critical is a better word for it |
17:07.25 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Send him my love....I really wasn't in the mood to make the rounds on Friday :-) |
17:08.26 | sorphin | prpplague: so what was the piece that fell by your place ? |
17:08.37 | pattieja | kergoth: are you really going to buy one of those Toshiba servers? |
17:08.58 | kergoth | pattieja: yep |
17:09.42 | pattieja | ok. cause I was about to get on the phone to see why they're so cheap. We were thinking of using them to replace a different solution for our clients, but if they are going away or something... |
17:09.52 | pattieja | or if they aren't staying at that price point... |
17:10.23 | kergoth | gotcha. I only need a few for myself. let me know what you find out though |
17:10.26 | kergoth | brb, real work |
17:11.53 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: of course |
17:12.21 | pattieja | kergoth: they're running RedHat 7.0 |
17:14.25 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Troy is sending me a devkit for the dallas semi Secure processor |
17:14.59 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: no way.... does Dave know? |
17:14.59 | sorphin | Rocinante: if only atmel was that cooperative :P |
17:15.29 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: No not yet... |
17:15.31 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: time to start learning 8051 then? |
17:15.57 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: What else will i be doing... |
17:16.17 | Rocinante | sorphin: It really wasn't that easy ... it's taken a while |
17:16.27 | sorphin | Rocinante: even still |
17:16.43 | Rocinante | sorphin: true... |
17:17.01 | sorphin | Rocinante: prying info out of atmel w/o a 50000+ quantity *order* on some chips is near impossible |
17:18.34 | Rocinante | sorphin: I haven't seen it yet :-) |
17:18.56 | sorphin | Rocinante: true, but you atleast have reason ot believe it's coming ;p |
17:20.39 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: with that particular vendor, Rocinante has learned not to believe anything until it shows up on his doorstep |
17:20.49 | Rocinante | sorphin: yeah, but the time frame of receiving it isn't for sure |
17:28.50 | lerxst | Rocinante: whats up |
17:29.00 | Rocinante | lerxst: Nice nick..... |
17:29.16 | lerxst | yeah i used to use it on bbs's in the 80's |
17:29.32 | Rocinante | lerxst: Thanks for the links via Cosmic |
17:29.32 | lerxst | jordan should have just forwarded an email to you |
17:29.34 | lerxst | sure |
17:29.53 | lerxst | let me know how they turn out, i was planning on contacting them one of these days |
17:30.01 | lerxst | just out of curiosity |
17:30.22 | CosmicPenguin | All I want is a damn HDTV PCI card - is that too much to ask? |
17:30.34 | Rocinante | lerxst: I'll check those out and let you know.... |
17:31.41 | lerxst | this one looks dry now but i've seen c++/unix postions show up here: http://www.fatpipeinc.com/jobs/ |
17:31.52 | lerxst | i imagine they have nice bandwidth benefits |
17:32.21 | CosmicPenguin | lerxst: tread lightly, thats a Canopy group company... :) |
17:32.27 | CosmicPenguin | No offense to levi, of course... :-) |
17:32.30 | lerxst | heh |
17:32.38 | Rocinante | lerxst: Yeah, I've some people I know at fatpipe... |
17:33.04 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ah (on your vendor comment) |
17:34.38 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: morning |
17:34.49 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: morning... wireless freedom is on the truck, I see.. :) |
17:35.12 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: cool. Anything new at censoft? |
17:36.18 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: sadly we lost a few folks on Friday.... |
17:37.19 | andersee | I thought there already was just 3 of you left -- Greg, Jason, and you... |
17:39.12 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: we have a few sales and tech support folks hanging around |
17:42.05 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Ahh |
17:42.24 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: So are you the last developer standing? |
17:42.24 | lerxst | hey what about me |
17:42.29 | lerxst | heh |
17:43.21 | prpplague | sorphin: not sure what it was |
17:43.23 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: oh, yeah - we've got our faithful IT guy too... :) |
17:43.47 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: unfortunately they kept the worst engineer... |
17:44.21 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: By that do you mean Jason, Greg, or yourself ;-)? |
17:44.24 | Tangent | Cool... got one of my Tuxscreens up and running agian :) |
17:44.44 | andersee | Tangent: btw, I updated the tuxscreen kernel last night |
17:44.44 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: me... apparently Greg isn't ready to quit abusing me yet... :) |
17:45.00 | andersee | heh |
17:45.36 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, this is BS.... librsvg says that they are "The leading free SVG renderer for Unix", but the API is written specifically for GTK |
17:46.50 | lerxst | CosmicPenguin: remember, if it doesn't link with libpango, it's worthless. |
17:47.19 | sorphin | lerxst: name switcher :P |
17:47.25 | Tangent | andersee: I'm not even going near that right now... last time I did that it took me until now to get it working again... |
17:47.48 | Tangent | (6 months) |
17:48.36 | signal11 | sorry, had to have a matching Rush nick there |
17:49.14 | andersee | Tangent: :-) |
17:50.58 | Tangent | I've still not got around to flashing my second tux |
17:51.15 | Tangent | Now I've finally got the first one using NFS properly again, I wanna try to get X working... |
17:51.39 | Rocinante | lerxst: Other than 2 songs...Rocinante is mythology baby |
17:54.48 | signal11 | boy the code on my tux screen is ancient |
17:55.07 | signal11 | it's basically just an xdm client |
17:55.54 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: its still running? |
17:56.09 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: i'll bet it would run if i plugged it in, it's been on a shelf for awhile |
17:56.23 | signal11 | i was getting that gorilla arm syndrome from using a stylus instead of a track ball |
17:57.52 | signal11 | is it usable as a phone these days? |
17:57.59 | signal11 | i have been out of touch for awhile |
17:58.03 | Tangent | I'd be perfectly happy for my tux to be an xdm client |
17:58.07 | Tangent | (well.. one of them at least) |
17:58.18 | sorphin | signal11: um.. has been for ages far as i know ;p |
17:58.31 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: its the phone on my desk at home |
17:58.31 | signal11 | sorphin: cool |
17:58.40 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: it freaks my cats out when I use the speaker phone |
17:58.53 | signal11 | nice |
17:59.08 | Tangent | I have one screwed to the wall in my server room, and one in my office |
17:59.33 | Tangent | Never really been put to much use... firewall statistics displays etc |
17:59.35 | signal11 | Tangent: i hope you don't have to rebuild x to do it, they might not include xdmcp just to save space |
18:00.01 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: eventually I will have enough time and gumption to update Microwindows on it... maybe even a little Pixil action.. :) |
18:00.11 | Tangent | signal11: I have no X... I haven't had X in about 2 years... It used to work a long time ago... then they changed the touchscreen driver... |
18:00.24 | Tangent | I don't want to build anything.. I just want some binaries |
18:01.11 | Tangent | Every time I try buildroot-tux it dies in some new creative ways |
18:05.14 | CosmicPenguin | woo-hoo -- US women ski team took 2nd and 3rd this weekend at the World Cup |
18:05.44 | sorphin | um.. cool.. |
18:07.28 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Have you seen or heard from Uncle yet? |
18:08.10 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: nope, but you will be the first to know |
18:08.18 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: I'll try to give you play by play as soon as he comes in |
18:09.16 | sorphin | some people are pathetic |
18:09.20 | sorphin | "EBay pulls shuttle debris listings" |
18:09.56 | signal11 | Uncle? |
18:10.07 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Gracias...I'm just curious, he offered to chat..... |
18:11.21 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: offered to chat to you? |
18:11.40 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Yeah...Pretty funny huh? |
18:11.46 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: didn't take him up on it? |
18:11.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: who is pathetic? EBay or the people selling the debris? |
18:12.06 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: No....I just laughed |
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18:22.13 | CosmicPenguin | Is there no XRender documentation around? |
18:26.22 | CosmicPenguin | The Uncle is in the building |
18:38.08 | prpplague | ibot: seen TomW |
18:38.09 | | tomw <tom@24.229.147.16> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 2d 14h 33m 47s ago, saying: 'Yeah, well. I'd rather be coding linux on a new ARM board... :/'. |
18:49.43 | Tangent | prpplague: Hi |
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19:10.03 | sorphin | ok, who's the master of LCD prices? |
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19:33.28 | sorphin | for anyone w/ a lil $ |
19:33.31 | sorphin | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2304849600&category=29502 |
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19:50.49 | prpplague | Tangent: hey old friend |
19:51.02 | prpplague | Tangent: what are you up to these days? |
19:51.28 | prpplague | sorphin: what kinda lcd you lookin for? |
19:52.03 | sorphin | eh.. just asw that one i pasted above, plus i actually just came across this too |
19:52.41 | sorphin | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=32863&item=3004979143 |
19:52.48 | Tangent | prpplague: Couple of days a week sysadmin work... rest of the time.. messing with my homeatuomation stuff and trying to find other work. |
19:54.05 | prpplague | Tangent: fun fun |
19:54.47 | Tangent | prpplague: The home-automation stuff is rather good now... I've started putting together a website for it... (not online yet) |
19:55.20 | prpplague | cool |
19:55.36 | prpplague | Tangent: replaced the kids and wife with a pic yet? |
19:57.00 | Tangent | prpplague: Selected body parts :D |
19:57.06 | prpplague | lol |
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20:33.57 | Rocinante | signal11: I've sent some emails to both of those companies....I'll let you know what I hear back |
20:35.08 | signal11 | excellent |
20:38.55 | TimRiker | ~convert 180 mm to inches |
20:39.19 | TimRiker | ~convert 118 mm to inches |
20:39.24 | TimRiker | ~convert 40 mm to inches |
20:39.54 | TimRiker | anyone played with http://www.openbrick.org/ ? |
20:40.16 | sorphin | never heard of it |
20:40.23 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: Geode... :) |
20:40.42 | Russ|werk | ibot: convert 8 hogheads to miles |
20:40.50 | CosmicPenguin | Website tis borked right now, says I |
20:41.45 | Russ|werk | ~convert 1 barrel to ml |
20:42.05 | Tangent | ibot: convert 7 furlongs into inches |
20:42.22 | Russ|werk | ~convert 7 furlongs into inches |
20:42.31 | Russ|werk | ~convert 7 furlongs to inches |
20:42.58 | Tangent | Cool :) |
20:44.14 | Tangent | ibot... A car is travelling at 37 furlongs per fortnight... for how many microseconds will it be able to travel if it has a range of 750 kilometers |
20:44.22 | CosmicPenguin | Back in my day, my car got six ramrods to the barrelhoop, and thats the way we liked it |
20:44.49 | Tangent | One of my physics teachers used to have a thing for furlongs per fortnight |
20:45.03 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Have you heard much from Dave? |
20:45.18 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: nope |
20:45.22 | prpplague | i use the term fortnight alot |
20:46.43 | TimRiker | ~convert 1 light year to furlongs |
20:47.30 | Tangent | prpplague: How did your arm board turn out? I might have picked up a bit of work hooking up a load of DACs and ADCs to an ARM. |
20:48.23 | prpplague | Tangent: good so far |
20:48.32 | prpplague | Tangent: the first 10 just got finished |
20:48.37 | prpplague | Tangent: we are testing them now |
20:51.50 | Tangent | prpplague: How're they testing out? |
20:52.23 | prpplague | Tangent: good so far, we have linux and blob running |
20:52.26 | Tangent | TimRiker: That's one nice bit of converting :) |
20:52.39 | prpplague | Tangent: next phase is to get some additional hardware working with the core |
20:53.01 | TimRiker | Tangent: heh. |
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21:28.53 | Tangent | prpplague: got the pic doing anything yet? |
21:39.42 | prpplague | Tangent: ? |
21:42.53 | MonMotha | prpplague: ? |
21:44.41 | sorphin | ???? |
21:48.06 | MonMotha | sorphin: you're supposed to put someone's nick followed by a single ? |
21:48.44 | prpplague | MonMotha: don't bother, he works for worldcom he can't follow directions :) |
21:49.13 | MonMotha | true |
21:49.23 | MonMotha | prpplague: gotten any work done on porting BLOB to the webpal? or shall I try? |
21:50.09 | prpplague | MonMotha: negative, my wife has been in the hospital for several weeks and i've 0 done on anything |
21:50.14 | sorphin | prpplague: go stand under some falling space debrie |
21:50.24 | MonMotha | prpplague: ah, that would explain it |
21:50.38 | MonMotha | I'll get started on it once these guys send me the devel book for this thing |
22:02.20 | Tangent | prpplague: pic = PIC = Programmable Interface Controller that you put on the board |
22:02.59 | prpplague | Tangent: ohh, i didn't include one directly on the board, it will be on a daughter board |
22:03.42 | Tangent | prpplague: Fair enough |
22:03.43 | CosmicPenguin | Ok folks - this is CosmicPenguin@censoft signing off... look for me at my new place of employment, stately Crouse manor |
22:03.51 | Tangent | prpplague: Got any pictures? |
22:03.53 | CosmicPenguin | peace! |
22:05.12 | prpplague | ibot: hackkit |
22:05.12 | | well, hackkit is http://hackkit.eletztrick.de/ |
22:06.35 | sorphin | i still think the hackkit is a vapor toy till i get my hands on one ;) |
22:06.36 | Tangent | prpplague: Oooh.. very pretty |
22:06.46 | Tangent | Same here... |
22:07.07 | sorphin | but i don't blame davey for that |
22:07.48 | prpplague | lol |
22:08.07 | Tangent | Looks like some power supply hacking went on? |
22:08.09 | prpplague | ya well, i'm legally comitted to manufacturing atleast 100 units |
22:08.36 | sorphin | prpplague: hows that ? |
22:08.42 | prpplague | Tangent: that was a test unit, we did some testing on the ps before we powered it fully up |
22:08.52 | prpplague | sorphin: i signed a po and a letter of intent |
22:08.58 | sorphin | prpplague: doh |
22:09.02 | sorphin | prpplague: mistake #1 ;) |
22:09.45 | prpplague | sorphin: why? there were conditions, if they don't meet the schedule or QA, the deal is void |
22:10.09 | sorphin | and have they ? |
22:11.24 | prpplague | sorphin: so far |
22:14.28 | prpplague | sorphin: what? |
22:21.21 | MonMotha | hum, I never got my Intel manuals either (SA-1110/1111) |
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22:32.04 | sorphin | prp: POS gar |
22:32.11 | sorphin | grr |
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23:01.06 | CosmicPenguin | hello hello |
23:13.58 | scanline | hello |
23:14.54 | pattieja | ouch |
23:18.22 | CosmicPenguin | where did everyone go? |
23:20.20 | Tangent | I went nowhere.. |
23:20.42 | pattieja | me neither |
23:20.49 | pattieja | just wasn't on IRC for awhile |
23:22.10 | Tangent | CosmicPenguin: There's plenty of room at my house |
23:22.26 | pattieja | unfortunately, not at mine :( :( |
23:22.36 | CosmicPenguin | Tangent: not those kind of toys |
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23:49.57 | CosmicPenguin | hey Rocinante |
23:55.30 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Hola... |
23:55.48 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: I'm having trouble finding room for all my toys.. :) |
23:56.02 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: plus I need a USB hub, I think |
23:56.09 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: I hear you..... |
23:56.29 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: I bought a 4 port USB hub for $12 |
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23:57.36 | CosmicPenguin | Rocinante: you ready to kick ass and take names? |
23:57.50 | Rocinante | CosmicPenguin: Hell yes |
23:58.12 | CosmicPenguin | btw - email Mark and he will reinstate your e-mail and .forward it anywhere you wnt |
23:58.47 | Rocinante | alright, I'll send one now |