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| 00:33.04 | CosmicPenguin | hey |
| 00:51.32 | MonMotha | is there any particular reason the input to the webpal is 8VAC? |
| 00:51.49 | MonMotha | I would have expected something like 5VDC, something normal digital parts use :) |
| 00:52.02 | MonMotha | instead they feed it 8VAC then immediately knock it down to DC |
| 00:54.06 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: probably for the video drivers |
| 00:54.17 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: The TV encoder needs strange voltages |
| 00:54.24 | MonMotha | hum, good point |
| 00:59.25 | MonMotha | hum, looks like it just needs 5V |
| 01:02.34 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: there is something about regulating the drop in voltage or anything... I |
| 01:02.49 | CosmicPenguin | I am sure somebody who knows what the hell they are talking about can tell you |
| 01:05.30 | MonMotha | lots of stuff that wants internal regulation just takes like 6-9V as input, runs it through a simple linear regulator, and gets 5V off the other side...who knows |
| 01:05.52 | MonMotha | I will say that video encoder gets damn hot tho... |
| 01:07.28 | MonMotha | I really do dislike the fact that my webpal came with like no screws in it |
| 01:07.40 | MonMotha | I don't mind right now, but eventually I'm going to want to put it back together! |
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| 02:54.25 | MonMotha | ibot seen prpplague |
| 02:54.25 | | prpplague <~joebob@21-190.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 2d 21h 3m 27s ago, saying: 'i wish i had more to work on the oz buildroot, just tooooooo many irons in the fire'. |
| 03:28.00 | sorphin | MonMotha: don't expect to see him around for a while |
| 03:38.33 | TheMasterMind1 | why |
| 03:39.11 | sorphin | umm |
| 03:39.19 | sorphin | because of his wife? :P |
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| 04:20.14 | kergoth | hey dan, russ |
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| 04:54.59 | Russ | hello |
| 05:09.50 | kergoth | whats goin on russ |
| 05:12.56 | CosmicPenguin | hey |
| 05:21.02 | Russ | the apartment router box died |
| 05:21.16 | Russ | fsck goes though ok, but there are files I cannot change the permissions for, remove, etc |
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| 08:23.04 | andersee | TimRiker: evening. just updated the tuxscreen buildroot a bit... Rebuilding w uClibc 0.9.17... |
| 08:23.49 | TimRiker | locales yet? |
| 08:24.17 | TimRiker | m$ SQL 2000 worm taking over the net as we speak. |
| 08:24.58 | andersee | TimRiker: yup |
| 08:25.09 | TimRiker | yup to which? |
| 08:25.24 | andersee | TimRiker: enable locale support, and it'll add full locale support for ~350 locales. Adds just 250k. |
| 08:25.51 | TimRiker | sweet. is that code complete now? or still in progress? |
| 08:26.09 | andersee | TimRiker: configuration for locale support sucks -- isn't merged into the config system so you have to hand edit a file |
| 08:26.44 | TimRiker | ah. k. |
| 08:27.07 | andersee | TimRiker: Well, there are a few todo items. mostly features, optimizations, enhanced c++ support, etc. It is quite complete as is though. |
| 08:28.03 | andersee | TimRiker: One nice thing, is if you enable WCHAR but not LOCALES, you get quite complete stub locale support... :) |
| 08:28.27 | TimRiker | cool. that sounds useful. |
| 08:28.34 | andersee | TimRiker: The stub is complete enought to build the whole debian base system with.... :) |
| 08:30.04 | andersee | I also posted updated devel environments about an hour ago, with uClibc 0.9.17. |
| 08:30.53 | andersee | Not extensively tested, but I can chroot into them and build dynamicly linked hello.c with both gcc and g++ on x86, arm, and powerpc. |
| 08:31.43 | andersee | I need to fire up phoenix and try out mips as well |
| 08:36.16 | andersee | TimRiker: btw, I've been using nail (the powerpc box) a _lot_ recently for building and testing. |
| 08:36.42 | andersee | oops |
| 08:37.32 | TimRiker | sweet. I "aquired" another similar box. ;-) I need to get it setup. glad it's helping. |
| 08:38.02 | andersee | :) |
| 08:40.15 | TimRiker | got a bzflag server up on the fragfarm at xm. |
| 08:41.01 | TimRiker | was running 20 players constant last week. xm says "uh, you're using more than a t1 of bandwidth..." |
| 08:41.41 | TimRiker | they setup a dedicated box for me and I limited players to 12, it's still sending like 350kbs outgoing. |
| 08:41.56 | TimRiker | guess I'll be working on net code again. ;-) |
| 08:44.35 | andersee | TimRiker: wow, I had no idea it used that much bandwidth |
| 08:45.32 | andersee | tuxscreen boots and runs with uClibc 0.9.17 |
| 08:45.37 | andersee | Guess its time to ship |
| 08:45.38 | andersee | :) |
| 08:45.51 | TimRiker | me neither. outgoing bandwidth is n*n though. need to merge packets better. |
| 08:45.55 | andersee | too bad I don't have any gold cds |
| 08:46.07 | TimRiker | heh |
| 08:46.50 | TimRiker | you can do a tux release, but you have to build/test x on it. ;-) or any other gui that you like, but I think they are all broken save X. |
| 08:51.13 | TimRiker | building x is easy. and it's nice to run mozilla remotely. ;-) |
| 08:59.36 | andersee | :) |
| 09:40.04 | andersee | oops |
| 09:40.19 | andersee | I dunno if my touchscreen is working or not. |
| 09:40.32 | andersee | Perhaps I should add gpm |
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| 15:43.07 | file | andersee: congrats |
| 15:43.45 | andersee | With any luck, it'll even work... :) |
| 15:44.15 | file | :) |
| 15:44.19 | andersee | I've tested x86, arm, powerpc, and mips for this release. Everyone else is on their own. |
| 15:44.32 | file | lol |
| 15:45.41 | file | andersee: evil, evil |
| 15:46.16 | andersee | I suppose I could have tested SH on my dreamcast. But I didn't. |
| 16:33.29 | TheMasterMind1 | andersee: nice |
| 16:33.45 | TheMasterMind1 | andersee: does uclibc break binary compatibility with programs compiled with libc? |
| 16:46.12 | andersee | TheMasterMind1: I'm not sure I understand the question |
| 16:46.27 | andersee | TheMasterMind1: uClibc has _never_ been binary compatible with glibc |
| 16:46.39 | TheMasterMind1 | andersee: alright, that answers my question |
| 16:48.13 | andersee | TheMasterMind1: ideally, everything that is sanely written and compiles vs glibc should also compile without changes using uClibc |
| 16:48.58 | TheMasterMind1 | ah, cool |
| 16:58.32 | Russ|werk | actually no, he broke it |
| 16:58.47 | Russ|werk | anything compiled with 0.9.16 needs to be recompiled |
| 16:59.11 | Russ|werk | something about stat64 and comparing ints to longs |
| 16:59.24 | TheMasterMind1 | hehe |
| 17:00.05 | Russ|werk | anyway, I just stopped by to pick a couple things up |
| 17:00.08 | Russ|werk | congrats andersee |
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| 17:11.26 | andersee | Russ|werk: thx |
| 17:16.30 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 17:19.57 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 17:20.53 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: another beautiful winter day, eh? |
| 17:22.11 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 17:22.20 | file | my I-Opener is supposedly going to be sent out today |
| 17:22.21 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: dunno, havn't looked outside yet |
| 17:22.43 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: was up all night getting a uClibc release out |
| 17:22.50 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: cool... is it out? |
| 17:23.05 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: yup. |
| 17:23.08 | CosmicPenguin | sweet |
| 17:23.48 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I also updated the devel system images -- x86, powerpc, and arm |
| 17:23.51 | CosmicPenguin | No way... full locale support? |
| 17:24.02 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: full locale support |
| 17:24.14 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: though I have it disabled in the devel images |
| 17:24.26 | CosmicPenguin | <monetary.h> and evdrything? |
| 17:25.05 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: nope. No monetary.h yet |
| 17:25.15 | CosmicPenguin | damn |
| 17:25.16 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 17:26.09 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: but shared libstdc++ is working properly now... |
| 17:26.09 | andersee | :) |
| 17:26.23 | file | andersee: you amaze me again, although I don't use uClibc... |
| 17:26.25 | Russ | wait, its supposed to be winter? |
| 17:26.58 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: thats good news |
| 17:26.58 | TheMasterMind1 | Russ: depends, where are you located |
| 17:27.05 | file | Russ: well... it is here |
| 17:27.09 | file | it's cold out, and snow is everywhere |
| 17:29.17 | CosmicPenguin | All I know is that its 20 degrees in Orlando, and 45 degrees in Salt Lake CIty |
| 17:29.28 | Russ | its a lot warmer here |
| 17:31.16 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: where are you hiding the toolchain only buildroots? |
| 17:32.57 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: you mean this? http://www.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/toolchain/ |
| 17:33.14 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: or this? http://www.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ |
| 17:33.27 | CosmicPenguin | no, the toolchain. I thought you had a tarball for it>? |
| 17:33.28 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: or this? ftp://ftp.uclibc.org/uClibc/root_fs_0.9.17-i386.bz2 |
| 17:33.56 | andersee | Go to the link above and click on "Download tarball" |
| 17:34.16 | andersee | It'll generate a snapshot from cvs on-the-fly |
| 17:34.42 | CosmicPenguin | Well, now, isn't that cool |
| 17:35.14 | andersee | :) |
| 17:35.29 | andersee | I got tired of keeping up to date tarballs |
| 17:47.26 | CosmicPenguin | anyone know of a good way to calculate the day of the week for a date before 1/1/1970? |
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| 19:12.24 | file | MonMotha? |
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| 20:04.53 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: webpal |
| 20:04.53 | | from memory, webpal is a set top box appliance that can run Linux. see http://webpal.bigbrd.com/, or http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html, or only $13 + shipping! |
| 20:10.35 | MonMotha | ? |
| 20:27.21 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: Another good resource for the WebPal is: http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/ |
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| 20:34.46 | legodude | quick question, any way to get linux on webpal without building serial board? |
| 20:35.12 | legodude | I just realized I have 232s but no capacitors for them |
| 20:37.03 | TomW | legodude: isn't radio shack open today? |
| 20:37.17 | legodude | ya |
| 20:37.23 | TomW | :/ |
| 20:37.25 | legodude | I'll do that if I have to |
| 20:37.33 | legodude | just curious if there was another way though |
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| 20:39.00 | TomW | Naw, you could do some nasty stuff using a 2N7000 FET or 7407, but, I wouldn't rely on that unless you have an o'scope and doing low speed stuff. |
| 20:39.42 | legodude | k |
| 20:39.48 | legodude | I'll just drive out to rat shack |
| 20:40.39 | TomW | ibot: webpal |
| 20:40.39 | | somebody said webpal was a set top box appliance that can run Linux. see http://webpal.bigbrd.com/, or http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html, or only $13 + shipping! |
| 20:41.56 | TomW | ibot: webpal is also schematics are available from: http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/ |
| 20:41.57 | | TomW: okay |
| 20:42.04 | TomW | ibot: webpal |
| 20:42.05 | | i guess webpal is a set top box appliance that can run Linux. see http://webpal.bigbrd.com/, or http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html, or only $13 + shipping!, or schematics are available from: http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/ |
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| 21:13.37 | MonMotha | ibot webpal schematics |
| 21:13.37 | | methinks webpal schematics is at http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/Webpal_1.0.pdf |
| 21:13.41 | MonMotha | it already knows :) |
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| 22:06.31 | sjhill | hi file |
| 22:06.38 | file | how are you? |
| 22:06.47 | sjhill | great...how about you |
| 22:06.56 | file | good good |
| 22:07.05 | file | waiting for someone to come online to give me a UPS Tracking Number :) |
| 22:07.18 | file | I'm running out of desk space |
| 22:08.46 | TomW | MonMotha: ok, just didn't think to qualify the query |
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