| 00:07.20 | *** join/#elinux prpplague (~joebob@21-190.lctv-b4.cablelynx.com) |
| 00:07.53 | prpplague | ho ho ho, merry frekin friday |
| 00:08.06 | file | er prpplague |
| 00:09.23 | prpplague | farscape returns! |
| 00:11.33 | jacques | really?? |
| 00:11.39 | jacques | cool |
| 00:11.39 | file | prpplague: great |
| 00:11.49 | file | prpplague: what the frell were they thinking to begin with?!?!?!?!? |
| 00:13.12 | jacques | they were thinking that they wanted to save money |
| 00:13.16 | prpplague | file: who knows |
| 00:13.22 | jacques | and make more total shit like Dreagon Hunter |
| 00:13.36 | file | very dumb plan. |
| 00:13.42 | prpplague | scifi crap for the masses |
| 00:13.58 | jacques | exactly |
| 00:14.01 | prpplague | scifi en mass just doesn't work |
| 00:14.11 | jacques | what are the good shows on scifi ? |
| 00:14.16 | jacques | x-files re-runs |
| 00:14.23 | prpplague | jacques: nothing lately |
| 00:14.32 | prpplague | jacques: they've killed everything that was good |
| 00:14.42 | jacques | yeah it made me very disgusted |
| 00:14.46 | prpplague | jacques: farscape, lexx, sliders, babylon5 |
| 00:14.54 | MonMotha | hello again prpplague |
| 00:14.59 | file | Lexx was filmed near my hometown |
| 00:15.00 | prpplague | MonMotha: howdie |
| 00:15.06 | MonMotha | what guage wire you say you used for soldering to an LQFP? |
| 00:15.16 | prpplague | file: figures, thats why your fscked up, lol |
| 00:15.22 | file | prpplague: :p |
| 00:15.31 | jacques | is lexx still filming ? sliders and babylon5 are both over right ? |
| 00:15.32 | prpplague | MonMotha: i've been using 30g |
| 00:15.36 | MonMotha | k |
| 00:15.54 | MonMotha | also, you know where I might be able to happen upon a printed copy of the SA-1110 Datasheet/HW Ref Guide |
| 00:15.56 | prpplague | jacques: scifi was filming both sliders and babylon5 |
| 00:16.12 | jacques | and only babylon5 is in the same class as farscape out of those IMHO |
| 00:16.21 | prpplague | jacques: they pissed of the principles of both shows |
| 00:16.32 | prpplague | jacques: so they got canceled |
| 00:16.36 | jacques | prpplague: probably by paying them crap |
| 00:16.38 | file | I miss Babylon 5 |
| 00:16.58 | prpplague | jacques: mainly over script changes |
| 00:17.06 | prpplague | jacques: like when they bought sg-1 |
| 00:17.32 | prpplague | jacques: they changed the scripts so much that the guy playing daniel jackson no longer felt it was worth while |
| 00:18.24 | prpplague | jacques: the black guy on sliders was the only one left from the original sliders crew by the time it got canceled |
| 00:18.57 | prpplague | jacques: all goes to show that the marketing gurus at scifi have no idea about their audience |
| 00:19.20 | prpplague | jacques: IMHO the tnn guys who play the trek:TNG have a much better idea |
| 00:19.27 | prpplague | jacques: love their commercials |
| 00:19.42 | prpplague | jacques: i.e. the one about "doing it" with the klingon woman |
| 00:20.02 | prpplague | jacques: btw, hello, long time no chat |
| 00:20.08 | prpplague | jacques: got a webpal yet? |
| 00:23.26 | jacques | prpplague: sorry someone was asking me a linux Q on AIM |
| 00:23.38 | prpplague | np |
| 00:23.58 | jacques | prpplague: not yet - I went to surpluscomputers on sunday but they were out - the guy said he thought they were getting more - I will try again tomorrow or sunday |
| 00:24.17 | file | jacques: should call ahead next time :) |
| 00:26.04 | file | that's what I usually do - then get them to pull the stuff I want and have it put at the counter for easy pickup |
| 00:26.12 | jacques | file: yeah I should. I wanted to see the place before - was out drviving around on a nice day |
| 00:26.27 | file | jacques: ic |
| 00:27.10 | Russ|werk | prpplague: was it you that needed to come up with the signiture network thingy? |
| 00:27.28 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya |
| 00:27.47 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i've got a hacked up version of netcat doing so stuff right now |
| 00:27.49 | Russ|werk | have you looked at gnet? |
| 00:27.55 | prpplague | Russ|werk: negative |
| 00:28.11 | Russ|werk | it integrates with glib2.0 |
| 00:28.14 | Russ|werk | http://www.gnetlibrary.org |
| 00:28.16 | Russ|werk | or glib1.2 |
| 00:28.49 | Russ|werk | it has data packing functions too |
| 00:28.51 | prpplague | Russ|werk: thanks, i'll have a look |
| 00:28.57 | prpplague | Russ|werk: any encryption? |
| 00:28.59 | MonMotha | well, I have on the way the SA-1110 dev manual and all spec updates, and the SA-1111 dev manual and all spec updates, in dead-tree copy |
| 00:29.03 | MonMotha | cost to me: $0 :) |
| 00:29.15 | file | MonMotha: good going little grasshopper :) |
| 00:29.39 | MonMotha | heh, I swear these people lose so much on me :) |
| 00:29.43 | MonMotha | hopefully they'll make it back some time though |
| 00:29.50 | Russ|werk | something about md5 and sha |
| 00:29.57 | MonMotha | I think Maxim has spent like $120 on me by now in samples and shipping |
| 00:30.18 | file | MonMotha: do they ship to Canada? |
| 00:31.03 | MonMotha | file: not sure |
| 00:31.09 | file | MonMotha: mmm |
| 00:31.22 | MonMotha | they're very easy to get samples from though...they've scored major points with me |
| 00:31.35 | file | how? :) |
| 00:31.43 | MonMotha | heh, I to their site when I need a part for somethign, get a "sample" of that part, and then get 7 others :) |
| 00:31.54 | MonMotha | free samples, very nice |
| 00:32.41 | MonMotha | the 1-wire stuff is kinda neat, and of course they have tons of line drivers, display controllers, etc |
| 00:32.46 | prpplague | the free samples are nice if you've never used the chip before or its hard to find, but....., i'd just as soon spend the cash and get it here in a couple of days |
| 00:33.13 | file | MonMotha: point me to something fun/useful :) |
| 00:33.21 | MonMotha | prpplague: the problem I have is that nobody wants to sell you one or two..it's easier and quicker sometimes to just order a sample |
| 00:33.25 | MonMotha | file: hang on |
| 00:33.41 | MonMotha | now if only I could get free samples like that from intel :) |
| 00:34.18 | MonMotha | MAX6954s are fun |
| 00:34.34 | prpplague | MonMotha: what are those? |
| 00:34.39 | MonMotha | I need to build an ISA card to get an SPI bus outof my dev box |
| 00:34.51 | MonMotha | prpplague: SPI interfaced LED display controllers, 104 char ASCII |
| 00:34.58 | file | OOOOOOOOOOH |
| 00:35.02 | prpplague | MonMotha: nice |
| 00:35.32 | MonMotha | they have tons of stuff like that |
| 00:35.34 | Russ|werk | MonMotha: I easily built a isa card with a jtag bus |
| 00:35.39 | Russ|werk | MonMotha: you want schematics? |
| 00:35.40 | file | sweet they'll ship here |
| 00:35.59 | Russ|werk | no special components required |
| 00:36.01 | file | what's standard shipping? |
| 00:36.02 | MonMotha | oh, and their A/V stuff is nice, but kinda hard to use for tinkering, and in unfriendly packages (lots of BGAs, TSOPs, and SSOPs) |
| 00:36.06 | MonMotha | file: UPS ground |
| 00:36.26 | MonMotha | Russ|werk: sure, maybe I'll make an "devel box" card, I2C, SPI, JTAG, etc |
| 00:36.40 | file | MonMotha: I'm going shopping there |
| 00:36.40 | MonMotha | I keep forgettign I'm on IPv4 so DCC works :0 |
| 00:36.49 | prpplague | Russ|werk: you use those isa dev cards? |
| 00:36.51 | MonMotha | file: oh yeah, it's like a kid in a candy store for me :) |
| 00:36.53 | Russ|werk | writing makes the clock tick |
| 00:37.00 | Russ|werk | reading doesn't effect the clock |
| 00:37.11 | Russ|werk | prpplague: no, its much simplier than that |
| 00:37.23 | MonMotha | I remember when radio shack sold ISA proto boards...I should have picked up a few |
| 00:38.31 | Russ|werk | I don't remember where i bought my 8 bit one |
| 00:38.38 | file | MonMotha: any LCDs on there? |
| 00:39.00 | MonMotha | file: sure, they have LCD controllers too, but lots of LCD displays come with an ASCII output decoder built in |
| 00:39.10 | file | point me there! PLEASE! |
| 00:39.25 | MonMotha | hum, maybe you'd be interested in a SPI UART with built in RS-232 line drivers? :) |
| 00:39.38 | MonMotha | http://para.maxim-ic.com/compare.asp?Fam=disp_driv&Tree=Display&HP=Display.cfm&ln=&SORD=443&FT_443=3598&ITEMLIST=162,163,164,165,117256,117257,117258,117259,117260,117261,117262,117263,117264,117265 |
| 00:40.55 | MonMotha | btw, some of those LED drivers are HUGE chips, you might want to get SO-ICs if you can deal with that packaging (not too difficult to hand solder, but no proto boards) as they're a lot smalelr |
| 00:41.20 | prpplague | file: you can get a nice lcd from allelectronics for $19 that you can hook up to your lpt port |
| 00:41.27 | file | prpplague: no thanks |
| 00:41.51 | prpplague | file: hmm why not? |
| 00:42.07 | MonMotha | he wants to do it the hard way L( |
| 00:42.08 | MonMotha | :) |
| 00:42.46 | MonMotha | MAX3110E is kinda the mother of all SPI UARTs |
| 00:43.00 | MonMotha | handy to hook up to a uC you may have to talk to your LED controllers :) |
| 00:43.08 | MonMotha | (if your uC doesn't have it's own UART that is) |
| 00:43.39 | file | MonMotha: what else is fun? |
| 00:43.41 | MonMotha | having fun file? :) |
| 00:44.06 | file | yes! |
| 00:44.11 | file | I even called a friend and told him |
| 00:44.16 | MonMotha | the 1-wire stuff is cool...designed for security and such |
| 00:44.29 | MonMotha | they have serial number things that do md5 with a secret |
| 00:45.29 | MonMotha | Dallas (part of maxim, so you can get free stuff from them too) also makes lots of non-volitile static rams |
| 00:45.43 | prpplague | MonMotha: know any max chip for i2s stuff? |
| 00:46.00 | sorphin | prpplague: mean i2c ? |
| 00:46.44 | MonMotha | prpplague: yeah, there are also LED drivers and stuff for i2c |
| 00:46.53 | file | I just want a simple LCD display... |
| 00:46.55 | MonMotha | I just recently got a bunch of LED controllers from them |
| 00:47.00 | MonMotha | I think they have some LCD ones too |
| 00:47.11 | MonMotha | if you prefer i2c, SPI's a little easier to work with |
| 00:47.17 | MonMotha | needs mroe lines tho |
| 00:47.55 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:48.05 | sorphin | cute, someone tried to virus my fysh mail account |
| 00:48.21 | sorphin | sending a file called: Movie_0074.mpeg.pif |
| 00:48.26 | MonMotha | well, with a few shift registers, you can slap a parallel access device on an SPI bus...i2c you have to handle addressing and such |
| 00:48.31 | MonMotha | sorphin: oh, I see those all the time |
| 00:48.49 | file | what else... |
| 00:49.42 | MonMotha | MAX6900 is apparently an i2c interfaced RTC |
| 00:49.57 | sorphin | MonMotha: wish maxim would hurry the fluck up |
| 00:50.43 | MonMotha | sorphin: my last order of samples probably took a month to get them all |
| 00:50.44 | file | MonMotha: any more sites with free samples? |
| 00:51.00 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:51.01 | MonMotha | file: fairchild has a small portion of their stuff available for free samples |
| 00:51.07 | sorphin | last time i did it, didn't take THAT long |
| 00:51.19 | MonMotha | sorphin: well, a couple were out of stock and backordered |
| 00:51.30 | MonMotha | and I doubt that the FREE samples get a high priority on backorder :) |
| 00:52.06 | prpplague | bbiaf, frascape |
| 00:52.09 | sorphin | yeah |
| 00:53.13 | MonMotha | file: give me some hints here as to what you're interested in :) |
| 00:54.38 | MonMotha | at one point they had like 256MB (yes, that's megabytes) of static ram available for a sample |
| 00:54.41 | MonMotha | like a $500 part |
| 00:54.52 | file | MonMotha: I dunno... |
| 00:54.58 | file | fun stuff, like LCD displays... LED displays... |
| 00:55.55 | MonMotha | MAX1608 and MAX1609 look fun |
| 00:56.58 | MonMotha | http://www.maxim-ic.com/Display.cfm |
| 00:57.10 | MonMotha | ooooh, BLUE LED displays |
| 00:57.17 | file | WHERE |
| 00:57.28 | MonMotha | digikey has some, but they're numeric only |
| 00:57.32 | MonMotha | not cheap either |
| 00:57.39 | file | oh... thought they were free samples... oh well |
| 00:57.42 | MonMotha | but that would look SO AWESOME on an aluminum case |
| 00:57.47 | MonMotha | yeah, that's not maxim : |
| 00:57.48 | MonMotha | :) |
| 00:58.07 | MonMotha | I need to find an optoelectronics place that offers free samples, fairchild makes some but they don't offer samples of their LEDs |
| 00:58.51 | MonMotha | no blue ones either |
| 01:00.03 | file | mmm |
| 01:00.11 | file | MonMotha: still looking... |
| 01:00.21 | MonMotha | this CD is obviously designed to be unrippable |
| 01:00.34 | MonMotha | it ripped, but not the last track, and track 10 skips like mad |
| 01:00.47 | MonMotha | I guess I'll return it as defective ;) |
| 01:00.56 | MonMotha | for another oen |
| 01:01.08 | MonMotha | over and over again until the cows come home (or the fat lady sings, whichever comes first) |
| 01:01.30 | file | MonMotha: do they send a tracking number? |
| 01:01.44 | MonMotha | no |
| 01:02.01 | file | that bites |
| 01:02.12 | MonMotha | yeah, they just kinda show up on your doorstep |
| 01:03.16 | MonMotha | you know, I hate DVDs that make you watch all the publisher info |
| 01:03.21 | MonMotha | the FBI warning is bad enough |
| 01:04.06 | file | MonMotha: I need more stuff!!! |
| 01:04.42 | MonMotha | hum |
| 01:05.03 | MonMotha | you prefer i2c, not SPI? |
| 01:05.16 | file | I don't even know what those are :) |
| 01:06.06 | MonMotha | heh |
| 01:06.27 | MonMotha | just browse around, Maxim's site is surprisingly easy to navigate |
| 01:06.46 | file | http://www.maxim-ic.com/quick_view2.cfm?qv_pk=3415&ln= |
| 01:07.23 | MonMotha | oh yeah, but the external components will get you awfully quick...not to mention look at the packaging |
| 01:07.26 | MonMotha | not very hobbiest friendly |
| 01:08.09 | file | I already ordered that 900MHz transceiver ;) |
| 01:08.25 | file | for no reason really |
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| 01:10.14 | MonMotha | see, I try to get stuff I may one day use |
| 01:10.22 | file | but never do? |
| 01:12.20 | MonMotha | I've actually used a few things I have from them |
| 01:12.26 | MonMotha | and have serious plans to use some others |
| 01:13.45 | MonMotha | I ordered a MAX3232 and some NV RTC SRAM chip (for my IPX) that I've used :) |
| 01:13.58 | MonMotha | the MAX3232 is happily at home in my tuxscreen driving my 2nd serial port |
| 01:14.16 | file | ic |
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| 01:22.56 | cpenguin_home | Hello |
| 01:24.40 | MonMotha | oh come on...these people are documenting the "color" output of their LED displays in nanometers |
| 01:26.09 | cpenguin_home | MonMotha: its all about the nanometers, didn't you know that? |
| 01:26.40 | MonMotha | I thought it was all about the Pentiums |
| 01:26.47 | file | what application am I requesting samples for? |
| 01:26.55 | MonMotha | make something up |
| 01:27.10 | file | I'm out of ideas |
| 01:27.11 | MonMotha | I've passed off "Familiarization with 1-wire" and "System Info Display" before :) |
| 01:29.07 | file | what are these journals? |
| 01:29.32 | file | Maxim Engineering Journals |
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| 02:03.57 | TomW | GPSFan: thanks, I got the schematic & Libs for the WebPal. I see that he must have done it using the Freeware version of Eagle CAD as he did it all on one sheet. Not a problem, just noteworthy. |
| 02:06.29 | GPSFan | TomW: yea, I figured that too, since it came into my Eagle 4.08 without a complaint. nice job though. |
| 02:07.13 | TomW | oh yes! He did a first rate job on the schematics, didn't he? |
| 02:07.48 | TomW | even down to details such as documenting the clock settings for the CH9294 on the sheet. |
| 02:09.23 | prpplague | TomW: lo |
| 02:09.28 | GPSFan | TomW: my only complaint is that on the color version the green text is awefully hard to read on a printed copy, but that's probably an eagle issue. |
| 02:09.35 | prpplague | MonMotha: hey you still around? |
| 02:09.36 | TomW | prpplague: hey |
| 02:10.09 | TomW | GPSFan: yeah, that is a problem with Eagle, the default colors aren't that contrast-y |
| 02:10.34 | prpplague | TomW: hey tom |
| 02:10.36 | TomW | can't bitch about having the fruit of another's labors handed to you to save you some work though |
| 02:10.46 | GPSFan | TomW: might look better on B-size. |
| 02:10.52 | prpplague | TomW: going round two on my tuxscreen life support system |
| 02:11.35 | TomW | GPSFan: aww, I always do my schematics so that they will fit on a standard A4 Letter, that way I can print the stuff out here on my InkJet. |
| 02:11.56 | TomW | prpplague: your "life support system"? :) |
| 02:13.27 | prpplague | TomW: dev board |
| 02:13.34 | TomW | prpplague: heh |
| 02:13.48 | prpplague | TomW: i.e. nothing but the head |
| 02:14.30 | kergoth | hey |
| 02:16.03 | TomW | prpplague: now that I got most of those RS485 boards assembled and delivered, I have some play-time coming to me. I'll talk with my boss and demand some time off! |
| 02:16.27 | TomW | kergoth: lo |
| 02:17.17 | prpplague | TomW: lol |
| 02:17.31 | prpplague | x-303 sg-1 ship is just plain ugly |
| 02:18.42 | prpplague | TomW: hey, on your dev board did you use some some inductors on the lcd interface? |
| 02:18.55 | TomW | prpplague: no |
| 02:19.25 | prpplague | TomW: did you get any emi problems? |
| 02:20.08 | TomW | prpplague: not that I noticed, but I wasn't concerned with that. The LCD looked "clean" and that was all that mattered, the network card still worked okay. |
| 02:20.44 | prpplague | TomW: what about bypass caps. did you do that to any extend? |
| 02:22.16 | TomW | prpplague: yeah, well, I always sprinkle a few 0.1uf caps around, I also sprinkle a few 1uf Tantalum caps onto the boards as well. IIRC, there is only 3-4 0.1uf and one Tant cap. |
| 02:23.24 | prpplague | TomW: could i seriously impose on you a cap 101, when should i use tants/monos/ceramics ? |
| 02:23.48 | TomW | prpplague: I used 16ga bus wire to run the 3.3volt & 5volt feeds & Ground around the perf board. Then used 24ga bus wire to hook those supplies onto the pins that went through the box header to the CPU board. |
| 02:25.42 | TomW | prpplague: it really depends on how much current a section is using, if you have a bus driver of some kind (74ACT245, 74125, etc) that are driving a heavy load (> 10ma) then I will have a 1uf tantalum in the vicinity for every two driver chips. Also, every driver chip would have a 0.1 next to it. |
| 02:26.16 | TomW | prpplague: on "normal" areas of the board, I usually use a single 0.1uf for every two chips. |
| 02:26.42 | prpplague | TomW: of which types? |
| 02:27.29 | TomW | prpplague: basically a "rule of thumb". Once you get the prototype done, you have to scope out the power feeds in different areas of the board and see how much localized noise there is, then do any adjustment of the cap values / count empirically. |
| 02:27.39 | prpplague | TomW: that explains why the the ms.pacman board has a longterm problem |
| 02:27.54 | prpplague | TomW: ahh, logical |
| 02:28.07 | TomW | prpplague: types == low current devices, such as LS logic (1ma drive). |
| 02:28.48 | TomW | prpplague: I know that there must be formulas and design rules covering this stuff someplace else, but, I never bothered with learning that stuff. |
| 02:28.56 | prpplague | TomW: the ms.pacmam board doesn't bypass the driver chip anywhere enough |
| 02:29.11 | prpplague | +s |
| 02:29.15 | prpplague | more than one chip |
| 02:29.20 | TomW | ibot: ms.pacman |
| 02:29.22 | | TomW: no idea |
| 02:29.31 | TomW | ibot: neither do I. |
| 02:29.33 | | no idea, TomW |
| 02:29.35 | prpplague | TomW: the ms.pacman video game unit |
| 02:29.47 | prpplague | z80 baefd |
| 02:29.51 | prpplague | based |
| 02:29.59 | TomW | prpplague: I don't play games with computers. My games are writing code on them, I enjoy that. |
| 02:30.16 | file | sweet - got tracking on my copy of Xandros :) |
| 02:33.04 | TomW | prpplague: I recall talking with a fellow that worked in engineering for a company that marketed a digital communications device (AX25 Ham Radio Packet controller). He spec'ed a number of bypass caps for the circuit board, then gave the schematic to drafting. Weeks later he got the populated boards back and they ran like shit. Drafting had taken all the bypass caps and stuck them in one corner of the board, near the power supply. |
| 02:35.56 | prpplague | TomW: lol, ahh so you were the one with that story |
| 02:36.26 | prpplague | TomW: i remember someone told me about that but i could not remember who |
| 02:37.21 | TomW | prpplague: no, that is the first I have told that one on IRC, must be an epidemic of "dumb" going around in the corporate world. |
| 02:38.37 | TomW | prpplague: last place I worked at, we had a great gal in drafting. She did a wonderfull job on the boards, she took instruction well and did the boards so they looked "pretty" to her. Whatever it was that "pretty" meant to her, she did a bangup job when she laid a board out. |
| 02:39.33 | TomW | prpplague: not too many electronics draftsman I have met that are willing to take instruction from a design engineer. Most seem to be too arrogant to ask questions. |
| 02:41.04 | TomW | prpplague: I had one idiot turn the autorouter loose on a 5Amp switching suppy I designed. They had the freaking board layed out, and prototyped before I knew they did it. Needless to say, they learned about something called "ground shift". |
| 02:41.44 | TomW | prpplague: they also learned that those "slanted lines" on the schematic where kelvan notation. |
| 02:41.50 | TomW | s/where/were/ |
| 02:46.36 | prpplague | TomW: that must be a common occurence |
| 02:47.31 | file | I wish UPS had terms describing each activity... |
| 02:47.51 | file | terms, er descriptions |
| 02:48.03 | TomW | prpplague: well, it seems that if they had an appreciation for the complexities of electronic design, they would be doing it instead of laying out boards then, eh? |
| 02:48.48 | TomW | file: yeah, ups tracking does suck. Your package disappears into the "maw" of ups and magically gets disgorged at it's destination. |
| 02:49.07 | MonMotha | TomW: I've noticed that |
| 02:49.43 | TomW | sux, I wish that I could see the package as it moves along in their internal system. |
| 02:49.46 | file | TomW: I've got a pickup scan - but nothing else yet |
| 02:49.58 | MonMotha | I have a pickup and a routing scan in sunnyvale |
| 02:50.11 | file | just Eureka for me :) |
| 02:50.31 | file | doesn't even say it's weight or what service it's going |
| 02:50.42 | TomW | like you get a package shipped via ups ground from california, it disappears at their long distance depot, then days go by until it shows up again at the local depot near me. |
| 02:51.06 | file | yup |
| 02:51.13 | file | that happened with the Xandros shipment to Eureka |
| 02:51.23 | prpplague | TomW: good point |
| 02:51.30 | file | it appeared in Richmond and then a few days later it appeared in Eureka saying it's out to be delivered |
| 02:51.37 | file | nothing inbetween |
| 02:51.59 | TomW | what happens if they lose the package? do you simply wait several days past the expected delivery date than bitch that you don't have it? |
| 02:52.27 | file | who knows... |
| 02:52.50 | file | and those pesky Internal codes |
| 02:53.39 | MonMotha | that happened to my hard drive |
| 02:53.49 | file | MonMotha: what happened? |
| 02:53.58 | MonMotha | went to Indianapolis, then Austin, TX then to it's destination (McAllen) |
| 02:54.04 | MonMotha | Indianapolis is the regional hub |
| 02:55.45 | file | this is the way it goes for me: |
| 02:55.58 | file | actually I forget how it goes |
| 02:56.20 | file | eh it eventually shows up :) |
| 02:59.20 | file | goodnight everyone |
| 03:37.45 | prpplague | night guys, i've already smoke a ucb1200 tonight, time for the triple B |
| 03:37.55 | prpplague | aka beer, butt , bed |
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| 05:05.45 | jacques | ebay is starting to piss me off a lot |
| 05:06.03 | jacques | their new ad campaign offends me |
| 05:17.28 | cpenguin_home | jacques: you a Sinatra fan? |
| 05:26.59 | jacques | cpenguin_home: I am referring to the ad campaign where they get people to put sensational stuff on their site and then send out press releases to all the media |
| 05:27.15 | cpenguin_home | jacques: ahh... haven't seen that one yet |
| 05:27.22 | jacques | the town, the island, and now the family |
| 05:27.31 | jacques | exvery media outlet runs the story |
| 05:27.37 | cpenguin_home | ahhh..... I understand now |
| 05:27.44 | cpenguin_home | you think its all a publicity stunt? |
| 05:27.47 | jacques | when they should be running stories about the rampant fraud that ebay does nothing about |
| 05:28.07 | jacques | cpenguin_home: yes I think it's a very cynical PR campaign |
| 05:28.21 | cpenguin_home | hmm.... |
| 05:28.28 | jacques | designed to redirect attention from the fraud problems |
| 05:28.39 | jacques | what next I wonder |
| 05:29.07 | cpenguin_home | just wait until ebay puts itself up for auction... :) |
| 05:29.16 | jacques | heh |
| 05:29.24 | jacques | seems like a conflict of interest |
| 05:30.04 | cpenguin_home | 3 days ago, we had a 59 car pile up in foggy conditions here in SLC |
| 05:30.16 | cpenguin_home | and now a medical helicopter has crashed in foggy conditions |
| 05:30.33 | cpenguin_home | Thats unusual for a freeking desert |
| 05:31.10 | jacques | wow :-( |
| 05:31.28 | jacques | SLC ? |
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| 16:56.31 | cpenguin_home | howdy prpplague -- good to see that you are not at work |
| 16:58.36 | file | I need more power bars |
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| 17:22.09 | file | got any pizza? |
| 17:23.17 | cpenguin_home | file: sorry |
| 17:32.05 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: ya glad i'm not there either |
| 18:03.10 | prpplague | w00t, my tuxscreen daughter board is alive! |
| 18:03.55 | file | alive... ALIVE! |
| 18:07.11 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: sweet! |
| 18:12.27 | prpplague | anyone got a good kernel and rootfs for testing? |
| 18:15.25 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: I don't know if my kernel/rootfs is stable or not |
| 18:18.10 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hmm, grabbed one from the tuxscreen.net site |
| 18:18.47 | sorphin | aftermorning you 2 |
| 18:20.00 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: almostnoon to you too |
| 18:21.15 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: loading the kernel now......i hope this works |
| 18:22.02 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: me too |
| 18:22.04 | andersee | prpplague: whats your daughterboard do? |
| 18:22.42 | cpenguin_home | If you don't have my daughterboard home by 10, there will be hell to pay! |
| 18:24.29 | file | cpenguin_home: but I like her soooo much |
| 18:32.24 | prpplague | andersee: replaces the dsp board |
| 18:32.52 | prpplague | andersee: and basically i'm just using the main board and connecting via the header |
| 18:33.02 | prpplague | andersee: the main goal is to make this portable |
| 18:33.48 | andersee | prpplague: replaces the dsp board with what? For what purpose? |
| 18:34.00 | prpplague | andersee: really using it as a test bed to learn about arm peripherals such as lcd, ts, audio , and pcmcia |
| 18:34.27 | prpplague | andersee: the main board just has the ram, flash, processor and pcmcia |
| 18:34.50 | prpplague | andersee: works nicely for learn how to get things going |
| 18:34.57 | andersee | prpplague: Ahh |
| 18:35.04 | andersee | prpplague: So what're you gonna hook up? |
| 18:36.58 | andersee | IDE drives? redundant fiber channel scsi raid array? toaster? |
| 18:37.19 | prpplague | andersee: try several different lcd panels, a 4x4 keypad matrix, a ucb1200 |
| 18:37.59 | prpplague | andersee: also work on learning about portable power supplies |
| 18:38.29 | prpplague | ha, booted and got a login |
| 18:41.03 | andersee | prpplague: So what does your eviscerated phone look like now? just the CPU board plugged into some power? |
| 18:43.30 | prpplague | andersee: something like this - http://cyberiansoftware.com/TuxScreen/StrongARM-perf.html |
| 18:43.45 | prpplague | andersee: but my board is closer to the size of the main board |
| 18:44.08 | prpplague | andersee: thats TomW's design |
| 18:44.36 | prpplague | andersee: mine is directed towards making a pda out of the tuxscreen core |
| 18:44.42 | sorphin | prpplague: <dr frankenstein> It's alive! aliiiiiiiiiiiiive! </dr frankenstein> |
| 18:47.08 | prpplague | andersee: granted, a _big_ pda, but all the right stuff for a pda |
| 18:47.53 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: so more of a web pad, if you will |
| 19:00.52 | prpplague | now to get tuxscreen buildroot installed so i can do some dev |
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| 21:02.37 | file | wb prpplague |
| 21:03.56 | andersee | prpplague: hospital? |
| 21:04.16 | prpplague | andersee: my wife is diabetic with "end stage" kidney failure |
| 21:04.47 | prpplague | andersee: pretty nasty stuff |
| 21:05.03 | andersee | prpplague: oh no, I'm sorry to hear that. :( |
| 21:05.53 | prpplague | andersee: we've been living with it for awhile, its just lately in the last year gotten really bad |
| 21:06.53 | prpplague | andersee: its the reason i drink about 90% of the beer that i do :) |
| 21:07.45 | andersee | prpplague: heh |
| 21:10.08 | prpplague | anyone want to guess whether 1/4 inch differences in lcd data lines will create a timming issue? |
| 21:24.28 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: lo |
| 21:24.53 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: hey... sorry to see your wife is back in the hospital |
| 21:26.27 | cpenguin_home | mmm.... football and programming |
| 21:34.30 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: mmm.... grove salad and soldering! |
| 21:43.03 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: good stuff.. :) |
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| 22:19.13 | prpplague | sjhill: yo! whats up? |
| 22:20.13 | file | hi sjhill |
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| 22:23.36 | sjhill | hi prpplague |
| 22:23.37 | sjhill | lo' file |
| 22:23.45 | sjhill | prpplague: doing linux vpn's today |
| 22:23.55 | file | sjhill: got any parts for me? |
| 22:24.35 | sjhill | file: parts? parts of what? |
| 22:24.50 | file | sjhill: parts... I dunno |
| 22:25.03 | prpplague | sjhill: hopes there's $$ involved |
| 22:25.10 | file | oh there is |
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| 22:26.05 | file | if you got anything useful |
| 22:27.06 | prpplague | file: some string |
| 22:27.33 | file | cpenguin_home: muahahahahaha |
| 22:27.49 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: it'd be like those ppl on B5 that start building themselves into all the ship's parts |
| 22:28.49 | file | I could go for an ISA card (anything'll work) and something to fill a drive bay |
| 22:30.40 | prpplague | file: isa mfm controller? |
| 22:31.01 | file | prpplague: sure |
| 22:31.13 | file | I could go for a new PCI video card to replace my S3 Trio64 |
| 22:32.48 | sjhill | file: permedia 3d agp card? |
| 22:32.56 | sjhill | file: that's about all i have |
| 22:33.46 | file | I have no AGP slot |
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| 22:38.59 | cpenguin_home | who gave sorpin op status? |
| 22:39.03 | cpenguin_home | Did Tim lose his mind? |
| 22:40.10 | file | -25 farenheit with windchill |
| 22:42.09 | cpenguin_home | mmmm.... balmy |
| 22:45.30 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: um.. be nice now :P |
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| 22:49.26 | cpenguin_home | Hmm.... I'll predict about an hour for this one |
| 22:50.49 | sjhill | i must be the only person who has not bought a mp3 player |
| 22:52.07 | cpenguin_home | sjhill: what are you waiting for? :) |
| 22:53.09 | sjhill | cpenguin_home: an ogg player |
| 22:53.56 | sorphin | sjhill: you'll be waiting till someone like you makes one :P |
| 22:55.11 | sjhill | sorphin: http://www.thepowleys.com/lanpipe/lanpipe.php |
| 22:55.17 | sjhill | sorphin: shows some promise |
| 22:56.08 | sorphin | sjhill: is it mips based? *grin* |
| 22:56.58 | sjhill | sorphin: heh, no, he used a custom 8-bit controller...everything is in the Xilinx FPGA |
| 22:57.18 | sorphin | sjhill: ah.. then why would you want it? i thought you were a mipswhore :P |
| 22:57.41 | sjhill | i would be interested inthe VHDL for the audio data processing |
| 22:59.10 | cpenguin_home | Thats the best way to do it, IMHO |
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| 22:59.46 | cpenguin_home | Not nessesarly VHDL, but definately a downloadable firmware for a off processor chip of some sort |
| 22:59.54 | cpenguin_home | And an open firmware, too.. :) |
| 23:00.13 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:20.38 | ynk | q |