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| 01:40.53 | sorphin | sjhill: yo |
| 01:41.15 | sjhill | sorphin: dude |
| 01:41.30 | sorphin | sjhill: got burned cds next to me |
| 01:41.32 | sjhill | sorphin: happy new year |
| 01:41.39 | sorphin | sjhill: 3 of em are iso9660 (the 6.5.17 stuff) |
| 01:41.44 | sorphin | sjhill: you too |
| 01:41.50 | sorphin | 'so hopefully that'll work |
| 01:41.59 | sorphin | sgi has out .18 but i can't even access it |
| 01:42.01 | sjhill | cool, thx |
| 01:42.15 | sjhill | bummer (on .18) |
| 01:42.18 | sorphin | sjhill: wasn't sure if iso9660 would be ok |
| 01:42.28 | sjhill | should be fine |
| 01:42.34 | sorphin | js: yeah, they've locked down .17 too.. so w/o a contract you can't even get maintenace release |
| 01:42.44 | sorphin | obviously that was for you |
| 01:42.51 | sjhill | sgi...M$ of the UNIX world |
| 01:43.11 | sorphin | they used to allow maint releases (just not feature) for free |
| 01:43.47 | sorphin | sjhill: will ship asap.. (as soon as i can get to the damn PO) |
| 01:43.51 | sorphin | when they're open |
| 01:44.25 | sjhill | much appreciated |
| 01:45.15 | sorphin | no worries |
| 01:45.34 | sorphin | the switch on this kvm for keyboard reset, is so... loose, you barely have to touch it for it to reset.. |
| 01:45.55 | sorphin | well |
| 01:46.00 | sorphin | the 1st one i got from legodude |
| 01:46.10 | sorphin | had a flaw in one of the x11 packages |
| 01:46.15 | sorphin | on the original iso |
| 01:46.23 | sorphin | so he dug up a slightly older.. |
| 01:46.26 | sorphin | or something |
| 01:46.30 | sorphin | works well enough tho |
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| 01:47.52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: evening jc |
| 01:48.05 | CosmicPenguin | same to you mr S |
| 01:48.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: sup ? |
| 01:48.51 | CosmicPenguin | nada |
| 01:50.10 | sjhill | i've been needing to do that for a long time |
| 01:50.33 | sjhill | Debian is so much more intuitive |
| 01:51.32 | sorphin | nod |
| 01:53.11 | sjhill | good...parents just called and got safely in...although one bag got left in Chicago...oh well |
| 01:53.32 | sjhill | and the airlines wonder why their having problems...geesh |
| 01:53.42 | sjhill | :P |
| 01:54.00 | sjhill | sorphin: working on the webpal? |
| 01:54.54 | sorphin | sjhill: not atm, no... prpplague/gpsfan/tomw have been |
| 01:55.00 | sorphin | i will be when my maxim samples show up |
| 01:55.48 | sjhill | does maxim still give free samples? |
| 01:56.50 | sorphin | yes |
| 01:57.03 | sjhill | cool...i still like them then |
| 01:57.12 | sorphin | they send 2 of whatever, of 8 things per request |
| 01:59.46 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: evening |
| 02:01.40 | sorphin | lo erik |
| 02:02.43 | sjhill | sorphin: do me a favor, send me a test email to make sure things are working like i think |
| 02:02.46 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: evening to you |
| 02:02.54 | andersee | sorphin |
| 02:03.05 | CosmicPenguin | wheres the crazy Texan this evening? |
| 02:03.15 | sorphin | sjhill: what kinda email? |
| 02:03.21 | andersee | dunno |
| 02:03.30 | sjhill | sorphin: just put 'test' in the body or something |
| 02:03.36 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Probably still hung over |
| 02:03.47 | sorphin | sjhill: ah, ok, wasn't sure if you meant pgp/gpg'd or not.. |
| 02:03.53 | sjhill | nope |
| 02:04.09 | sorphin | sjhill: sent |
| 02:04.33 | sorphin | there |
| 02:04.36 | sorphin | it's at your box now |
| 02:04.36 | sjhill | lol |
| 02:04.39 | sjhill | thx |
| 02:06.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: which one is it ? |
| 02:07.33 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: its something from a company called Classic, its a Circuit City knock off of an Arcos |
| 02:07.53 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:08.01 | sorphin | specs ? |
| 02:08.08 | CosmicPenguin | The best part, is that I saw a sign that said it was on sale for $190 with a $50 dollar rebate, but the bastards forgot to change the sign |
| 02:08.22 | CosmicPenguin | and the rebate had expired, but for that, they gave me $50 bucks off instantly |
| 02:08.24 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 02:08.35 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: 10Gig, USB, usual blah, blah... |
| 02:08.43 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:08.56 | sorphin | same proc ? |
| 02:09.51 | CosmicPenguin | I dunno - maybe I should pop this bad boy open |
| 02:10.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: man, you're slacking if you haven't already ;) |
| 02:11.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I didn't know if it would be USB storage or not, I didn't was to fsck it up if I was going to return it |
| 02:11.24 | sorphin | ah |
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| 08:16.44 | sorphin | TomW: evening |
| 08:17.16 | TomW | yeah, something like that. Couldn't get much sleep, so I thought that I would bang keys for a while. |
| 08:17.51 | sorphin | nod |
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| 15:16.03 | sieve | lo everyone |
| 15:16.48 | file | hello sieve |
| 15:18.13 | sorphin | lo |
| 15:32.41 | sieve | Got my webpal to boot last night with a little help from prpplague... major victory for an embedded noob, no? |
| 15:34.08 | sorphin | yeah |
| 15:34.49 | file | sieve: congrats |
| 15:47.59 | sieve | Has anybody done the 4k refresh memory mod to the webpal yet? |
| 15:48.30 | sorphin | i'm going to |
| 15:48.40 | sorphin | just haven't yet |
| 15:48.43 | sorphin | it's only 1 wire |
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| 15:52.55 | file | Austin Powers is on Pay Per View - I'm going to watch it, bbl |
| 15:56.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: lo |
| 15:56.21 | CosmicPenguin | hello |
| 15:56.52 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo! |
| 16:11.37 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: you awake? |
| 16:12.42 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: nope |
| 16:13.02 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: did you try out that genext2fs patch from the BB mailing list? |
| 16:13.09 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: is it the answer to our prayers? |
| 16:13.44 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: havn't yet |
| 16:15.14 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I'll try it out some time this weekend |
| 16:15.39 | CosmicPenguin | But I still need to get cramfs inserted into my buildroot |
| 16:16.11 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I have that all done and working... |
| 16:16.26 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Want me to add it to buildroot-tux for you? |
| 16:21.51 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: cramfs or genextfs? |
| 16:21.58 | CosmicPenguin | Do you have the .mk file? |
| 16:22.01 | andersee | cramfs |
| 16:23.34 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I just checked it into buildroot-tux for you |
| 16:23.48 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Along with the patch |
| 16:23.57 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: sweet... that will save me a bit of work |
| 16:24.16 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: unfortunately, my buildroot is somewhat different than yours, but I'm trying to merge the two concepts and send you a patch or three |
| 16:25.30 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Well, I'm sure the basic concepts are the same anyways |
| 16:40.31 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: just got finished reading the LKML - you really gonna write a new Nvidia driver in 2 weeks? :-) |
| 16:40.45 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:41.10 | andersee | nope. |
| 16:41.40 | andersee | Cuz they arn't going to relase their specs, which means I'm not gonna buy an nvidia card... |
| 16:41.53 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:42.02 | sorphin | what are you gonna use then ? :P |
| 16:42.13 | sorphin | ati still isn't very open |
| 16:42.32 | CosmicPenguin | Bah - what do I care? Even if they did release their specs, I doubt that it would make a whole lot of difference |
| 16:42.56 | andersee | sorphin: I've got an ATI Radeon card and it works fine for me, and I have an open source driver for it. |
| 16:43.20 | CosmicPenguin | They're in a crappy market anyway - they have a GPU that has the same performance as a $200 pentium chip, yet they are forced to produce it at a cost of about $50 bucks |
| 16:43.25 | sorphin | andersee: which radeon, and how well do the gfx drivers work on #d, etc ? |
| 16:43.49 | sorphin | 3d even |
| 16:44.05 | andersee | sorphin: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon VE QY |
| 16:44.22 | sorphin | the ONLY thing from ati i've been even remotely impressed w/ so far, is on my thinkpad (the Rage 128 mobility) |
| 16:44.22 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - the GPE people don't think that uclibc is "mature" enough for them |
| 16:44.33 | andersee | sorphin: some cheap one I picked up for like $40 |
| 16:44.40 | sorphin | andersee: nod |
| 16:44.52 | andersee | GPE? |
| 16:45.04 | kergoth | morning all |
| 16:45.13 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: whats a GPE? |
| 16:45.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: GPE we bring poor things to life ? |
| 16:45.21 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: yeah, the GNU Palmtop Environment - basically a bloated GTK based set of PIMS |
| 16:45.24 | sorphin | kergoth: lo chris |
| 16:45.42 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: they only good thing they have done thus far is write a pretty cool sqlite deamon |
| 16:46.01 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Their real problem is that glib and friends won't cross-compile... :) |
| 16:46.26 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: really? Why not? |
| 16:47.02 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: You have to be compiling on the target arch cuz it tries to run tons of configure tests (sizeof(short), etc) |
| 16:47.26 | kergoth | So supply test results in a config.cache for the target arch |
| 16:47.29 | kergoth | :) |
| 16:47.33 | andersee | You can compile vs uClibc only if target CPU = host CPU |
| 16:47.41 | kergoth | ah |
| 16:47.44 | andersee | kergoth: too lazy |
| 16:47.51 | kergoth | hehe |
| 16:47.54 | sorphin | hmmm |
| 16:48.00 | sorphin | for anyone that would care |
| 16:48.02 | sorphin | on Tom's Hardware |
| 16:48.04 | sorphin | Review: XScale vs. StrongARM PDA |
| 16:48.14 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: ahh - I get it. I've had that problem before with lots of stupid dependancies we used to have for various Microwindows toys |
| 16:50.46 | sorphin | specifically at: http://www.tomshardware.com/mobile/20021107/index.html |
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| 17:11.03 | kergoth | morning dave |
| 17:11.28 | prpplague | hey hey, plague in the house! |
| 17:11.30 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 17:11.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:11.55 | sorphin | lo |
| 17:11.59 | prpplague | kergoth: <grin>hope you morning digi has started off like mine here!<\grin> |
| 17:12.04 | prpplague | sorphin: lo |
| 17:13.53 | sorphin | prpplague: sup purple bitch |
| 17:19.52 | prpplague | sorphin: first day of work in 2003 and its already a fsckin nut house |
| 17:20.26 | sorphin | prpplague: been there, know that |
| 17:20.44 | sorphin | ;ended up w/ vending machine breakfast, pissed off, snow outside, roads are shite, etc.. |
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| 17:39.40 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 17:39.44 | Morn | re's |
| 17:39.52 | Morn | I'm upgrading gnome on the solaris box |
| 17:39.56 | Morn | I could be in and out |
| 17:42.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: that much snow, huh? |
| 17:42.15 | sorphin | will total out about 9" |
| 17:42.32 | sorphin | roads are crap, work is pissing me off anyways, my boss isn't even here |
| 17:42.45 | sorphin | nor is the other mgr who went home "not feeling well" nor is the sr mgr |
| 17:42.45 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats average around here - but I'll bet its a bit more concerning for the St. Louis area... :) |
| 17:48.45 | Russ|werk | snow? |
| 17:56.42 | Russ|werk | nope, no snow, must be some type of local flucuation you are experiencing |
| 17:58.37 | sorphin | Russ|werk: it is |
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| 19:40.05 | CosmicPenguin | damn.... isn't it a bad feeling when you start working on a driver, and you discover that somebody else has already done it? |
| 19:40.34 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: it's the same thing w/ anything (to me anyways) |
| 19:40.49 | Lethal | CosmicPenguin, depends if their code sucks or not ;P |
| 19:42.41 | CosmicPenguin | Well, I guess I could still get the video part working, but damn.... |
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| 19:52.32 | *** mode/#eLinux [+o BZFlag] by ChanServ |
| 19:52.50 | sorphin | BZFlag: afternoon mr flag |
| 19:56.19 | Lethal | http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/articles.php?aid=2002364145010 |
| 19:56.20 | Lethal | hah |
| 19:58.57 | CosmicPenguin | Wow... thats impressive |
| 19:59.06 | CosmicPenguin | That guy love hanging his ass out where people can sue it, eh? |
| 19:59.16 | sorphin | yup |
| 19:59.21 | file | Lindows is evil on dialup |
| 19:59.37 | Lethal | CosmicPenguin, my thoughts exactly :P |
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| 20:00.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: lo |
| 20:00.49 | Lethal | CosmicPenguin, I wonder what he hopes to gain from any of it |
| 20:00.54 | GPSFan | hi prpplague: |
| 20:01.57 | sorphin | GPSFan: afternoon ken |
| 20:02.19 | Lethal | though I guess if you have 200k to blow on that kind of stupidity, you can afford a lawsuit or two :P |
| 20:02.39 | GPSFan | Howdy sorphin: I here you are almost snowed in. ;>) |
| 20:03.20 | sorphin | GPSFan: bite me :P |
| 20:04.05 | sorphin | GPSFan: you're welcome to it |
| 21:17.46 | sorphin | BZFlag: been there |
| 21:17.48 | sorphin | BZFlag: done that |
| 21:18.00 | sorphin | :) |
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| 21:34.11 | sorphin | Russ|werk: that's any windows puter |
| 21:35.53 | sorphin | hehe |
| 21:36.32 | kergoth | bah, explorer. use litestep/blackbox for windows + mozilla :D |
| 21:37.32 | Russ|werk | windows doesn't run without explorer |
| 21:37.41 | Russ|werk | er, true, I suppose I could try replacing the shell |
| 21:38.04 | Russ|werk | I don't think the customer would appreciate it |
| 21:38.12 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:38.33 | kergoth | 'here sir, this is blackbox.' .. '?' |
| 21:39.18 | sorphin | kergoth: better than a digibox :P |
| 21:39.30 | kergoth | bah |
| 21:39.31 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:39.42 | sorphin | Type: server said: Idle Timeout (30 seconds): closing control connection. |
| 21:39.44 | sorphin | grr |
| 21:49.59 | prpplague | Russ|werk: actually there is a program out there run can to seperate IE out of windows |
| 21:50.16 | sorphin | prpplague: yup |
| 21:50.16 | prpplague | Russ|werk: the program was demostrated at the M$ anti-trust case |
| 21:50.29 | sorphin | didn't need it for 2k tho |
| 21:50.40 | sorphin | IE never bothers me now |
| 21:50.55 | prpplague | me either since i don't use winblows :) |
| 21:51.18 | prpplague | instead i have fun with moz |
| 21:51.19 | sorphin | prpplague: at work i have to have 2 machines, and one is windows |
| 21:51.30 | sorphin | and i don't use IE |
| 21:51.57 | prpplague | sorphin: it was a condition of my emplyment was that i didn't have to use a winblows box |
| 21:52.10 | sorphin | well |
| 21:52.17 | sorphin | i wasn't hired into where i am right now :P |
| 21:52.25 | sorphin | and it doesn't really bother me anyways |
| 21:53.50 | prpplague | it would bother me :) |
| 21:55.16 | sorphin | prpplague: you're a delusional texan tho |
| 21:55.17 | sorphin | i' mnot |
| 21:55.46 | Russ|werk | prpplague: when you open control panel, what displays it |
| 21:56.16 | Lethal | Russ|werk, probably a blue screen :P |
| 21:56.33 | prpplague | Russ|werk: the seperation program? |
| 21:56.43 | sorphin | Lethal: he said what displays it, not what does it display |
| 21:56.45 | prpplague | Russ|werk: if thats what your asking, you have to dl it from somewhere |
| 21:57.00 | sorphin | Lethal: don't you have a cpu manual to memorize? |
| 21:57.01 | Russ|werk | hmm..I'm trying to get the dll's, but ftp won't work caus zonealarm aparently fscked everything up |
| 21:57.07 | Lethal | sorphin, bah, same difference :P |
| 21:57.15 | Lethal | sorphin, uhm.. no.. *hides acroread* |
| 21:57.29 | sorphin | Lethal: loser |
| 21:57.42 | Lethal | sorphin, whats your point? |
| 21:57.48 | prpplague | sorphin: delusional? you think "choosing" not to use winblows is delusional? |
| 21:58.16 | sorphin | prpplague: no, you're delusional regardless of what you run, dave ;) |
| 21:58.33 | sorphin | prpplague: btw, you're now being reminded about those simms *grin* |
| 21:58.57 | prpplague | damit someone broke my chair over the holidays |
| 21:59.14 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya crack baby |
| 21:59.17 | prpplague | sorphin: to late today |
| 21:59.48 | sorphin | prpplague: not my fault people *have* to remind you of things, gramps |
| 22:00.16 | prpplague | sorphin: no because i'm old, just got too many things to remember |
| 22:00.39 | sorphin | prpplague: uh huh |
| 22:01.05 | sorphin | prpplague: whatever dave, all you have to remember is what beer to drink and what pr0n to watch, and when to be at the nudie bar |
| 22:01.15 | sorphin | ;) |
| 22:01.27 | prpplague | sorphin: i wish |
| 22:01.38 | prpplague | sorphin: thats the way it will be when i retire |
| 22:01.52 | sorphin | prpplague: that'll never happen |
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| 22:02.29 | sorphin | prpplague: you have the curse of POS, even when you're 80, you'll be working on signature capture devices and another annoyances, AND file will still bug you, even then ;) |
| 22:03.10 | Lethal | there's something to look forward to :P |
| 22:04.02 | prpplague | sorphin: no, by then i'll be working on a POS that you jack into and transfer credits stored in your brain |
| 22:04.16 | sorphin | prpplague: but you'll still have file ;) |
| 22:04.48 | sorphin | but by then, he'll be file[puttingteethinglass] |
| 22:04.58 | sorphin | prpplague: um.. no |
| 22:05.22 | file | or file[spittingonsorphinsgrave] |
| 22:09.30 | sorphin | worse than fscking netscape |
| 22:13.32 | Lethal | netscape 3.0 was fine |
| 22:13.45 | Lethal | its just those crazy newfangled versions that have issues. |
| 22:13.59 | sorphin | that of course are based on Bloatzilla |
| 22:14.02 | prpplague | BZFlag: hmm, this article says all the staff except for some of the personell in japan will be kept from embedix, does that include you? |
| 22:14.18 | prpplague | BZFlag: http://sdtimes.com/news/069/story2.htm |
| 22:15.05 | Lethal | everything started going down hill once javascript popped up :P |
| 22:17.49 | sorphin | and CP uses pixil ;) |
| 22:18.45 | Lethal | yeah, but gopher is useful :P |
| 22:20.38 | CosmicPenguin | See, now thats not the kind of stuff I like to hear |
| 22:21.07 | CosmicPenguin | I'm working my ass off over hear, and you guys just wanna bad mouth me? |
| 22:21.14 | CosmicPenguin | s/hear/here/ |
| 22:22.33 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: only that cpu boy lethal is |
| 22:26.55 | Lethal | i've not actually used pixil, so its possible its useful :P |
| 22:29.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:30.08 | Lethal | CosmicPenguin, no, you need to impress closet XP users who function as paying customers ;P |
| 22:30.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: make sure that's all pointd at lethal ;) i layed off about teasing you about pixil, cuz i think it might be neat |
| 22:30.26 | sorphin | Lethal: he doesn't need to impress any XP users |
| 22:31.22 | Russ|werk | heh, the space alien cult is now saying they won't allow dna tests |
| 22:31.29 | Lethal | CosmicPenguin, everyone hates automake, but it could be worse, it could be libtool :P |
| 22:31.47 | sorphin | Russ|werk: i'm more feeling sorry for that russin kid now |
| 22:31.54 | Russ|werk | why? |
| 22:32.02 | Russ|werk | did you read the article? |
| 22:32.11 | sorphin | yup |
| 22:32.30 | sorphin | and at the end of it |
| 22:32.31 | sorphin | Serebryany was charged under the Economic Espionage Act of 1996, a law so powerful that until March 2002 only the most senior Justice Department officials in Washington could authorize prosecutors to wield it. Only about 35 criminal cases have been filed under the law. |
| 22:32.32 | sorphin | It prohibits anyone from disclosing trade secrets for economic benefit, and carries penalties in this case up to 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine. Although investigators acknowledge that Serebryany apparently didn't profit from the disclosures, the law bars giving away secrets for anyone else's economic benefit. |
| 22:32.41 | sorphin | econimic benefit? whatever.. |
| 22:33.14 | Russ|werk | the plan is for others to benifit econically by not paying for directv |
| 22:33.34 | Lethal | don't they have a patent on their stuff anyways? |
| 22:33.50 | Russ|werk | Lethal: he didn't RE stuff |
| 22:34.03 | Russ|werk | Lethal: he went in, took the trade secret documents, and then published them |
| 22:34.05 | sorphin | Russ|werk: not necessarily |
| 22:34.14 | Lethal | Russ|werk, oh |
| 22:34.23 | sorphin | Russ|werk: directv jacks people on having locals |
| 22:34.33 | sorphin | by zipcode |
| 22:34.39 | Russ|werk | sorphin: come again? |
| 22:34.48 | sorphin | even if you want to pay for locals |
| 22:34.53 | sorphin | if you're not in the right zipcode |
| 22:34.58 | sorphin | they won't give em |
| 22:35.05 | Russ|werk | ok, so? |
| 22:35.08 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:35.28 | sorphin | never freakin mind |
| 22:35.46 | Russ|werk | I really respect the hacker community that RE's all the directv signal, and etc |
| 22:36.00 | Russ|werk | but this guy didn't do any of that |
| 22:36.05 | Lethal | I dunno, if you can't abide by an NDA or similar agreements, you shouldn't sign them in the first place. if you get screwed over for breaking them, its your own fault. |
| 22:36.16 | sorphin | who says he signed one? |
| 22:36.20 | sorphin | maybe the firm did |
| 22:36.33 | sorphin | doesn't mean he did |
| 22:36.37 | Russ|werk | even if he didn't, its still theft of IP |
| 22:37.03 | Russ|werk | I was thinking of grabbing free directv, but its not anywhere near free |
| 22:37.08 | Russ|werk | sets one back around $500 |
| 22:37.24 | sorphin | how's that ? |
| 22:37.49 | file | Russ|werk: send me your card and I'll do it for $10 CAD :) |
| 22:38.30 | Russ|werk | I mean the recevier, dish, card, and electronic card |
| 22:38.38 | file | uh huh |
| 22:38.42 | file | should have got in early |
| 22:38.44 | sorphin | umm |
| 22:38.53 | Russ|werk | ya, where am I going to get a working H card now? |
| 22:38.55 | file | could have gotten everything for cheap |
| 22:38.55 | sorphin | cost me $99 |
| 22:39.00 | file | Russ|werk: HU. |
| 22:39.07 | Russ|werk | they have HU working now? |
| 22:39.11 | sorphin | and i don't have an H but i have a virgin HU |
| 22:39.18 | file | Russ|werk: HU has been working for a long time |
| 22:39.23 | sorphin | and yeah, last i saw, they had it working |
| 22:39.44 | file | http://users.staticky.com/joshnet/pics/card.JPG |
| 22:39.48 | file | that's my DirecTV card lol |
| 22:40.09 | sorphin | anyways, i'm out |
| 22:40.24 | CosmicPenguin | drive safely |
| 22:40.26 | Russ|werk | the emulation software, will it run on arm? |
| 22:40.40 | file | Russ|werk: I don't do emulation, I use bootstrap. |
| 22:40.45 | file | so I wouldn't know |
| 22:40.48 | Russ|werk | what is bootstrap? |
| 22:41.09 | file | Russ|werk: basically you reprogram the card's EEPROM |
| 22:41.33 | file | Russ|werk: so it thinks it's a different card which has permission to see everything - and get certain local channels |
| 22:41.54 | Russ|werk | but can't the receiver then rewrite that card? |
| 22:42.11 | file | what do you mean? |
| 22:42.24 | Russ|werk | the receiver can do updates to the card |
| 22:42.34 | Russ|werk | (eeprom updates) |
| 22:42.41 | file | kinda |
| 22:42.47 | file | it depends how DirecTV decides to attack |
| 22:42.50 | Russ|werk | thats what emulation is for |
| 22:43.02 | file | they either blacklist the card, or send a signal to the receiver to mess up the card |
| 22:43.07 | Russ|werk | so the receiver does updates to the card, but the emulation says ok to all the channels |
| 22:43.09 | file | either way in 5 minutes I'm back up and running |
| 22:43.27 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: thats the best way to do it - and the safest |
| 22:43.31 | Russ|werk | I'm just thinking, I have a webpal, it has a smartcard slot... |
| 22:43.54 | file | the latest fix I've been using on my card has been up for a month now |
| 22:44.06 | CosmicPenguin | Really? |
| 22:44.12 | file | CosmicPenguin: yes |
| 22:44.20 | CosmicPenguin | I had a friend with a hacked box, it was zapped within a week |
| 22:44.33 | CosmicPenguin | Timing, I guess |
| 22:44.34 | file | I've got 2 other fixes if this goes down :) |
| 22:44.36 | Russ|werk | I heard there was a program once sector |
| 22:45.11 | file | it's pretty easy to do the programming |
| 22:45.29 | file | you can also modify what local channels you get, zip code, what PPV's you've ordered |
| 22:45.36 | Russ|werk | its mainly the cost of receiver, card, and dish that screws me up |
| 22:47.04 | file | my programmer has a covering that reminds me of an old iMac |
| 22:47.06 | file | it's scary |
| 22:47.37 | CosmicPenguin | heh - smart cards are so lame |
| 22:47.56 | Russ|werk | file: its my understanding, that with an emulator, you don't need to do any programming |
| 22:48.05 | file | Russ|werk: the emulator just emulates a card |
| 22:48.17 | file | you still have to have it hooked up to a computer too... |
| 22:48.27 | Russ|werk | right |
| 22:48.35 | Russ|werk | but there isn't any reprogramming |
| 22:48.53 | file | I'll stick with my card thanks :) |
| 22:53.37 | file | Russ|werk: if you ever decide to get into it - drop me a line |
| 23:01.27 | Russ|werk | I need to have my funds do a post holiday leveling off first |
| 23:39.18 | BZFlag | prpplague: nope. there are 4 of us that are no longer employees. We have been offered contract positions but I don't know that anyone has accepted them yet. I have turned down the initial offer. Don't know if there will be another, but I'm unemployed at present, so the article is incorrect and Baratta has lied cause he is aware of the current state. |
| 23:40.16 | kergoth | BZFlag: ack. sorry to hear that |
| 23:40.21 | prpplague | BZFlag: sorry to hear that |
| 23:40.38 | prpplague | BZFlag: doesn't speak well for them in my book |
| 23:40.46 | BZFlag | nor mine either. ;-) |
| 23:41.10 | prpplague | BZFlag: anything i can do let me know |
| 23:41.31 | prpplague | BZFlag: short of "lilo style" donations :) |
| 23:42.16 | BZFlag | hehe, perhaps I should put up a paypal donations page? jk. |
| 23:42.24 | prpplague | lol |
| 23:42.36 | BZFlag | I'm not worried. I have a number of leads. more would always be appreciated though. |
| 23:42.48 | prpplague | well, i'm off to the gym, bbl |
| 23:42.49 | BZFlag | ~spell appreciated |
| 23:42.50 | | 'appreciated' may be spelled correctly |
| 23:42.58 | prpplague | BZFlag: good to hear that |
| 23:43.01 | prpplague | later guys |
| 23:44.07 | sieve | later all |
