| 00:12.18 | prpplague | anything new on the webpals? |
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| 00:20.24 | file | hi sjhill |
| 00:22.48 | sjhill | hi file |
| 00:23.07 | file | how goeth it? |
| 00:23.28 | sjhill | preparing for trip to Denver, CO tomorrow for an interview |
| 00:23.34 | file | ahhh |
| 00:23.38 | file | go visit scanline |
| 00:23.43 | file | oh wait |
| 00:23.45 | file | he's in Boulder |
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| 00:24.26 | file | scanline: comparative geekness? |
| 00:24.55 | scanline | hehe |
| 00:25.01 | file | sjhill: mmm yeah |
| 00:25.46 | file | sjhill: you could always impress him with your color Nino! |
| 00:25.51 | sjhill | true true |
| 00:26.02 | file | and then steal some pepsi |
| 00:26.35 | file | bbl |
| 00:26.36 | file | going to lay down and let this virusscan go |
| 00:27.27 | sjhill | hey sorphin |
| 00:27.44 | sorphin | lo |
| 00:29.28 | prpplague | sorphin: of course he is deranged, he's a teenage geek living in canada, who wouldn't be? |
| 00:31.07 | Lethal | prpplague, gotta start somewhere ;P |
| 00:34.20 | sorphin | prpplague: actuallly i was more refering to his weird obsession w/ sjhill's nino, and talking about crap like stealing pepsi.. wtf.. |
| 00:34.40 | sorphin | prpplague: i know other canadian geeks and none (thankfully) are that weird |
| 00:35.35 | sorphin | good |
| 00:36.03 | prpplague | sjhill: are they flying you out first class? lol |
| 00:36.19 | sorphin | prpplague: no, they're making him fly in the cargo hold ;) |
| 00:36.49 | prpplague | sjhill: AA group #13 ? |
| 00:37.17 | sorphin | as macgyver said at one time... "economy class" |
| 00:43.47 | sjhill | yup, i'm flying coach...i expect nothing more from Echostar...they're the cheapest company i've ever seen |
| 00:44.28 | file | sjhill: ic |
| 00:46.00 | Lethal | sjhill, they're doing mips now? I thought they were still using those idiot geode boards ;P |
| 00:56.14 | sjhill | Lethal: nope...Broadcom parts....well, they might have done a geode board, but they're moving to MIPS |
| 00:56.28 | sjhill | http://reality.sgiweb.org/extasia/ |
| 00:56.53 | sjhill | rotflol |
| 00:57.42 | Lethal | cool. thats quite a bit better then natsemi x86 ;P |
| 01:00.19 | sorphin | sjhill: ahh so they want you for your previous Int Prop knowledge ;) |
| 01:00.56 | prpplague | Lethal: around the office we just call them national-disgrace |
| 01:02.47 | Lethal | prpplague, fitting. |
| 01:02.47 | Lethal | prpplague, 'round here we call them glorified paperweights :P |
| 01:04.12 | sjhill | sorphin: nah, they already have all the IP knowledge |
| 01:04.54 | sorphin | ah |
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| 02:19.16 | TomW | That webpal.bigbrd.com site for the webpal linux source is still down. |
| 02:31.48 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:31.57 | sorphin | TomW: btw.. seems i was too cheap |
| 02:37.35 | TomW | sorphin: why is that? |
| 02:39.38 | sorphin | it took work just getting through a pencil and barely made a dent in a screw.. and yet that thing's supposed to cut a nail? |
| 02:40.38 | TomW | Well, they didn't say how long it would take to cut through the nail... |
| 02:40.58 | TomW | They may have used an Aluminum nail. |
| 02:41.16 | kergoth | hah |
| 02:42.25 | TomW | One thing, if you use the carbide cut-off wheels, make sure you use eye protection! If those discs disintegrate, they shower peices at pretty good velocity in unknown directions. |
| 02:42.56 | TomW | It doesn't take much to bust one of those carbide disks. |
| 02:54.43 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:54.47 | sorphin | well, it's going back |
| 03:00.28 | kergoth | BZFlag: hey tim |
| 03:03.09 | TomW | sorphin: Time for a Dremel? |
| 03:03.35 | sorphin | TomW: mebbe |
| 03:04.00 | sorphin | BZFlag: some people are still voiced over there ;p |
| 03:04.31 | TomW | once that webpal.bigbrd.com comes back online, I am going to suck his site dry with wget. The put the linux source into my cvs. |
| 03:04.40 | TomW | He has been down for over two days now. |
| 03:04.58 | sorphin | web prolly overloaded him ;) |
| 03:05.04 | sorphin | was prolly running ON a webpal ;p |
| 03:05.13 | TomW | I wonder if he knows. I see a posting on that BBS where he was down earlier this month as well. |
| 03:06.41 | sorphin | dunno |
| 03:06.59 | TomW | No rest for the weary. A customer called to say that the DAT tape drive on his windoze NT box died about a month ago and he just found out about it today. He has been doing daily backups and when he attempted to restore some stuff yesterday, he found that the tapes were all blank. |
| 03:07.25 | TomW | No error messages from NT that anything was wrong. |
| 03:08.08 | TomW | That's okay though, I have a new Linux workstation that is to replace that NT box. The NT stuff will be running under VMware so he can run his apps. |
| 03:08.57 | TomW | sorphin: I picked up a 9mm 4Gig notebook drive at the computer show today for the WebPal. |
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| 03:09.15 | TomW | sorphin: it works ok, I partitioned it and tried it out. |
| 03:09.42 | TomW | hmmm, wonder if I still have 2mm connectors, I know I have 2mm cable. |
| 03:11.28 | TomW | yup, got 2mm cable, headers and connectors. |
| 03:11.51 | TomW | no freaking software though. |
| 03:33.17 | sorphin | for wha? |
| 03:34.10 | sjhill | yeah, they back the NVRAM which holds the clock and the MAC address...if the battery dies, you can't boot IRIX |
| 03:34.16 | sjhill | shoot, you can't boot anything |
| 03:34.53 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:35.01 | sorphin | reminds me |
| 03:35.08 | sorphin | still gotta get rid of this stupid I2 |
| 03:35.16 | sjhill | ship it to me |
| 03:35.20 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:35.28 | sorphin | it's a teal ;p |
| 03:35.39 | sjhill | that's the color of mine too |
| 03:35.46 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:35.54 | sorphin | 4400/200mhz |
| 03:36.19 | sjhill | weighs in at about 50lbs. |
| 03:36.47 | sorphin | somethin liek that, yeah |
| 03:37.07 | sorphin | speaking of irix |
| 03:37.13 | sorphin | send me blanks and i'll burn it |
| 03:37.19 | sjhill | mental note, taco bell plastic bowls do NOT reheat well in the microwave |
| 03:37.47 | sjhill | 18 right/ |
| 03:37.48 | sjhill | ? |
| 03:38.14 | sorphin | for the base, if you want the .17 "upgrade" too, it's a few more |
| 03:38.46 | sorphin | 3 more |
| 03:39.30 | sjhill | so 21 total then |
| 03:39.36 | sorphin | hmm |
| 03:39.39 | sorphin | actually, i just counted |
| 03:39.44 | sorphin | including upgrades |
| 03:39.46 | sorphin | it's 16 |
| 03:40.08 | sjhill | how fast is your burner? |
| 03:40.10 | sorphin | .17 is 3 cds and base 6.5.14 is 13 |
| 03:40.19 | sorphin | 8x |
| 03:40.22 | sjhill | k |
| 03:40.49 | sorphin | i took back the 48x i had bought, cuz it's kinda stupid, i don't need to burn something in 2.5 mins, when this thing doesn't that THAT long anyways |
| 03:40.53 | sorphin | i'm not that impatient |
| 03:42.23 | sorphin | my name's not jordan crouse ;) |
| 03:42.43 | sorphin | as for this I2 |
| 03:43.01 | sorphin | shipping was $40 to get it to me about.. and i paid $40 for it |
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| 04:12.37 | ade|out | getting rid of an i2 .. are you mad ? |
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| 05:27.19 | sorphin | GPSFan: yo |
| 05:27.30 | GPSFan | hi sorphin: what's up? |
| 05:27.42 | sorphin | well, since my zaurus will be arriving this week |
| 05:27.48 | GPSFan | :>) |
| 05:27.52 | sorphin | looking through the cf gps devices |
| 05:28.14 | sorphin | main one i came across is the pretec |
| 05:28.25 | sorphin | any experience w/ it? |
| 05:28.50 | GPSFan | ah, some of the cf cards have sensitivity problems, or soI've read on gpspassion. |
| 05:34.29 | GPSFan | sorphin: there seem to be a lot mor cf GPS's than when I last looked, they mostly have ugly bumps on the top though. |
| 05:34.34 | GPSFan | http://www.gpspassion.com/en/hardware/gpslist.htm |
| 05:36.18 | GPSFan | sorphin: the http://www.pretec.com/index2/product/Mobile_peripherals/CompactGPS_LP.htm does look nice though, Trimble chipset. |
| 05:37.40 | kergoth`zzz | .wubdiw 12 |
| 05:37.44 | kergoth`zzz | god i cant type |
| 05:37.49 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:37.54 | sorphin | GPSFan: heh |
| 05:38.02 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:38.03 | sorphin | Currently only compatible with Pocket PCs running the ARM and XScale processors (such as iPaq 3600-3900 Series, HP Jornada 560 Series, Casio E-200, Toshiba e540, etc.) |
| 05:38.18 | sorphin | zGPS might be able to work w/ it tho |
| 05:38.20 | kergoth`zzz | note to self: kernel development when drinking is not as productive as kernel development when sober |
| 05:38.33 | sorphin | kergoth`zzz: never stops prpplague |
| 05:38.44 | kergoth`zzz | sorphin: lol |
| 05:38.53 | GPSFan | sorphin: probably because they are using Trimble binary protocol. |
| 05:39.09 | sorphin | only 8 sats |
| 05:39.41 | GPSFan | sorphin: this one has a smaller "bump" http://www.gissoft.com/body03_0102_01.html |
| 05:41.36 | GPSFan | the antenna lookd like it is from Sarantel. http://www.sarantel.com/geohelix-h.html |
| 05:42.52 | sorphin | you could use that antenna on the pretec LP |
| 05:43.21 | sorphin | cuz it has an mmcx connector |
| 05:43.57 | GPSFan | sorphin: as long as the power out the antenna connector is compatible. |
| 05:45.45 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:46.03 | sorphin | saw my comment about the LP only having 8 channels ? |
| 05:46.23 | sorphin | whereas the non LP has 12 |
| 05:47.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:47.23 | sorphin | gpspassion gives the LP a D |
| 05:47.46 | GPSFan | yep, that was sop, a few years ago, after moving up from 1, then 2, then 5. 12 is now commonplace with a few at 16. |
| 05:48.05 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:48.42 | GPSFan | when I said nice, I meant from a power drain point of view. Trimble has been in the GPS business a long time, and make some great survey instruments. |
| 05:49.05 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:50.15 | sorphin | hmm |
| 05:50.32 | sorphin | the holux GM-270 gets an A and uses the SiRF IIe/LIP chipset |
| 05:57.52 | GPSFan | yep, lots of SiRF devices out there, time for Zzzzz nite all... |
| 05:58.10 | sorphin | night |
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| 15:38.05 | CosmicPenguin | sieve: where is your partner in crime? |
| 15:40.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: speaking of crime, hello mr criminal ;) |
| 15:41.22 | CosmicPenguin | you talkin' to me? |
| 15:43.00 | sorphin | yup |
| 15:43.16 | sieve | CosmicPenguin: He's here I assure you. :) |
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| 15:52.55 | sorphin | speak of the devil |
| 15:52.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 15:52.57 | sorphin | and he appears ;) |
| 15:53.14 | sorphin | prpplague: mornin satan |
| 15:53.33 | prpplague | and he has a sucibus set aside for you! |
| 15:56.44 | sieve | mmmmmmmmmm.... sucibus.... if only I were so lucky to have one.. |
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| 16:03.37 | sorphin | prpplague: sup bitch |
| 16:03.48 | prpplague | sorphin: sup lackey |
| 16:04.13 | sorphin | eh.. my dvds showed up that i bought off ebay.. (no, not girls gone wild :P ) |
| 16:04.28 | sorphin | other than that. nothing.. the webpals should be at home waiting for me when i get home |
| 16:09.20 | sorphin | prpplague: so when hte hell you opening the nudie bar bitch? :P |
| 16:10.37 | prpplague | sorphin: sooooon i hope |
| 16:11.42 | sorphin | we'll all come down for the opening ;) |
| 16:16.14 | sorphin | prpplague: just for you |
| 16:16.15 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.15 | sorphin | where you can look at a thigh |
| 16:16.15 | sorphin | and blacken an eye |
| 16:16.15 | sorphin | at the nudie bar |
| 16:16.16 | sorphin | where they show you their butt |
| 16:16.18 | sorphin | and their trap stays shut |
| 16:16.20 | sorphin | at the nudie bar |
| 16:16.24 | sorphin | where you can't touch a breast |
| 16:16.26 | sorphin | but you can cave in a chest, |
| 16:16.28 | sorphin | at the nudie bar |
| 16:16.46 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, no fighting at the nudie bar |
| 16:17.01 | sorphin | ok, then it guess it's only |
| 16:17.07 | prpplague | sorphin: thats the bar down the street, its called "Mom's Place" |
| 16:17.10 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:17.10 | sorphin | where the girlies dance |
| 16:17.10 | sorphin | in their underpants |
| 16:17.11 | sorphin | at the nudie bar |
| 16:17.34 | sorphin | so that one and hte 2nd one |
| 16:23.24 | sorphin | prpplague: at the nudie bar, where the breasts are all fake, but boy do they shake, the nudie bar |
| 16:24.03 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, ya well, IMHO the real thing is better |
| 16:24.46 | sorphin | i know, me too |
| 16:24.54 | sorphin | twas just another Al quote |
| 16:25.03 | sorphin | for me, if they ain't real, i won't even mess w/ em |
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| 16:31.46 | prpplague | re guys |
| 16:31.50 | sorphin | re |
| 16:32.41 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 16:33.19 | prpplague | can anyone else get /.? |
| 16:36.52 | CosmicPenguin | nopte |
| 16:41.02 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, question - if I try to run getty on a serial port: /sbin/getty -L ttyS0 115200 vt100 |
| 16:41.14 | CosmicPenguin | And getty is running, but I get no output on the serial port, what did I foul up? |
| 16:41.55 | prpplague | what is the -L for? |
| 16:42.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't see that as a documented flag |
| 16:45.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its a force local flag, so we don't do carrier detect |
| 16:46.17 | CosmicPenguin | I've always just done it |
| 16:47.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, you must be using a different getty than i |
| 16:47.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: usually that is in the terminal definition file |
| 16:47.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you using a /etc/gettydefs file? |
| 16:48.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its tinylogin |
| 16:48.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so the answer is no |
| 16:48.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, i've not used tinylogin as a getty before |
| 16:49.09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: except on the tuxscreen, of course... :) |
| 16:49.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: naw, i still use a custom buildroot of my own nightmare making |
| 16:49.54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ouch |
| 16:50.18 | CosmicPenguin | Well, anyway, getty is running (in a D state, I might add), and nothing appears on the ol' serial port |
| 16:50.35 | CosmicPenguin | And the serial port works, because we get output from the kernel |
| 16:50.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, checked to make sure you got correct "polarity" on your rx/tx lines |
| 16:52.34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: if its good for the kernel, it should be good for userland, right? |
| 16:52.45 | prpplague | yep |
| 16:55.22 | sorphin | kergoth: you? sane? riiiiight |
| 16:56.18 | kergoth | sorphin: hey ya never know, had to check |
| 16:56.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: is this an arm plateform? |
| 17:02.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: x86 |
| 17:02.53 | prpplague | kergoth: you debugging? |
| 17:03.12 | kergoth | prpplague: working on a newer Z kernel atm. havent even started on the NET+50 stuff yet |
| 17:03.16 | kergoth | prpplague: but yeah |
| 17:03.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, from the examples i have no -L usage and no termtype argument |
| 17:03.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you using bb init? |
| 17:04.08 | prpplague | kergoth: ya printascii is a life savor |
| 17:04.35 | prpplague | kergoth: funny thing is, no-one every tells the newbies its around :| |
| 17:04.45 | kergoth | prpplague: i only happened by it when searching list archives |
| 17:04.59 | prpplague | kergoth: lol, on my notes page i have it documented |
| 17:05.24 | kergoth | prpplague: i know, i didnt know about it then :) |
| 17:05.40 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm planning to get back to writing docs soon :) |
| 17:06.14 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i found it in the list archives as well |
| 17:07.15 | prpplague | hmm webpals should be here :) |
| 17:07.33 | kergoth | prpplague: should note somewhere in your notes that it occasionally helps to edit printk.c and change the console loglevel from 7 to 9 to see KERN_DEBUG :) |
| 17:11.25 | prpplague | kergoth: well, if you get in a bind, i ordered a large number |
| 17:12.17 | prpplague | kergoth: doesn't the loglevel change to 9 when you compile with the kernel debug turned on it the kernel? |
| 17:14.19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yes on the bb init |
| 17:14.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: and all of my working serial ports use -L and the termtype argument |
| 17:14.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: one more thing, echo "" doesn't seem to work |
| 17:15.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: interesting |
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| 17:19.46 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - is the net under attack today? |
| 17:19.58 | CosmicPenguin | Slashdot seems to be down, irc.openprojects.net can't stay up |
| 17:20.20 | CosmicPenguin | Dogs, cats living together. Mass hysteria! |
| 17:20.28 | sorphin | next thing you know |
| 17:20.38 | sorphin | everything will be running microwindows instead of windows :P |
| 17:20.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats almost as smart as running a major portion of the internet backbone on FDDI |
| 17:22.49 | CosmicPenguin | heh - I just got some Italian pr0n spam |
| 17:25.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya something is going on |
| 17:25.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we are see tons of traffic trying to hit some of our firewalls |
| 17:27.18 | sorphin | all i'm seeing web wise is my usual influx of nimda/codered |
| 17:27.52 | sorphin | kergoth: :) |
| 17:28.08 | sorphin | i just wish it wouldn't accidentially flag stuff as spam that isn't |
| 17:28.19 | kergoth | kernel panic dumps almost always get hit |
| 17:28.22 | sorphin | else i could dump to /dev/null instead of caughtspam |
| 17:28.23 | kergoth | had to tweak my config |
| 17:30.18 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I use spamassain as well, but recently I've been examinng all of my spam to see what makes it all tick |
| 17:30.33 | kergoth | hah |
| 17:30.44 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: dont try to understand it :) |
| 17:32.18 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I like to see if I can send crap to the "unsubscribe" url |
| 17:32.41 | CosmicPenguin | like http://dirty.rotten.spammer?op=unsubscribe&email=kissmyass |
| 17:39.33 | CosmicPenguin | So, whats the news with our webpal friends? |
| 17:39.49 | sorphin | mine shall be at home waiting for me tonight |
| 17:40.05 | prpplague | mine is suppose to be here in an hour or so |
| 17:43.22 | CosmicPenguin | any word on the RS232 stuff? |
| 18:19.07 | Russ|werk | morning |
| 18:19.24 | sorphin | allo russ |
| 18:19.32 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: there's the man that would know ;) |
| 18:21.49 | Russ|werk | I haven't started any design yet, should I lay out a panel? |
| 18:24.02 | sorphin | Russ|werk: prolly cp's gettign impatient, and we can't do anything w/ these w/o the boards |
| 18:24.09 | sorphin | apparently |
| 18:26.07 | Russ|werk | k, I'll put together a panel then |
| 19:08.41 | prpplague | Russ|werk: got your stuff yet? |
| 19:09.51 | prpplague | i have webpals! |
| 19:11.00 | kergoth | prpplague: spiffy |
| 19:13.41 | Russ|werk | I have mine |
| 19:13.54 | prpplague | Russ|werk: was the keyboard in a different box? |
| 19:14.00 | Russ|werk | yes |
| 19:14.03 | prpplague | ahh ok |
| 19:14.06 | Russ|werk | all the batteries leaked though |
| 19:14.10 | prpplague | Russ|werk: eww |
| 19:14.16 | prpplague | Russ|werk: what about the stuff i sent? |
| 19:14.25 | Russ|werk | not yet, that is due wednsday |
| 19:16.34 | sorphin | i had leaked batteries w/ a tivo i bought one time.. fscking sucked |
| 19:19.54 | Russ|werk | my gf had fun reading the battery package though, since it was in korean |
| 19:20.13 | Russ|werk | so the batteries weren't a total loss |
| 19:20.37 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:20.48 | sorphin | she just speaks korean or is korean? |
| 19:21.42 | Russ|werk | both, but not as her first language |
| 19:21.43 | prpplague | hmm, i wonder if an isa pcmcia slot would work in the webpal |
| 19:21.56 | sorphin | prolly would work ok |
| 19:21.57 | Russ|werk | prpplague: it'd be hell to setup in the kernel, but probably |
| 19:22.00 | sorphin | just no DMA |
| 19:22.11 | Russ|werk | and only one irq line is tied in |
| 19:22.24 | kergoth | prpplague: how much flash/ram is on this thing, do you know? |
| 19:22.26 | sorphin | well, i can set the irq to use on my card |
| 19:22.31 | Russ|werk | 1M flash |
| 19:22.38 | kergoth | nah ot |
| 19:22.40 | sorphin | Russ|werk: or if you're lucky, 2 |
| 19:22.46 | kergoth | prpplague: (re the sdk digi's sending you, not hte webpals) |
| 19:22.47 | kergoth | prpplague: ;) |
| 19:23.25 | sorphin | Russ|werk: wait a sec, she's korean but he 1st lang isn't korean? |
| 19:23.30 | prpplague | kergoth: i was told 4meg flash and 8meg ram |
| 19:24.09 | prpplague | sorphin: what was the story on upgrading the ram? |
| 19:24.15 | sorphin | quit crossing topics here :P |
| 19:24.25 | sorphin | </digi sdk> :P |
| 19:24.30 | prpplague | sorphin: i've got a ton of 72pin sims |
| 19:24.38 | sorphin | prpplague: that should be fine |
| 19:24.53 | sorphin | it's edo, from my understanding |
| 19:25.04 | sorphin | you can put in more than 32M, but it won't use it |
| 19:26.33 | kergoth | prpplague: k |
| 19:28.38 | prpplague | kergoth: is that what you got? |
| 19:29.18 | kergoth | prpplague: hell if i know, all i have is docs on the fucking software and OS |
| 19:33.10 | sorphin | cool |
| 19:34.04 | kergoth | spiffy |
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| 19:44.04 | sorphin | GPSFan: afternoon |
| 19:44.22 | kergoth | its a monday, and i'm 1) productive, 2) awake, and 3) nothing is exploding |
| 19:44.25 | kergoth | I'm scared. |
| 19:44.33 | sorphin | kergoth: i'll fix that |
| 19:44.37 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:44.39 | kergoth | ~lart sorphin |
| 19:44.59 | sorphin | ~fishslap kergoth for being a digibitch |
| 19:45.03 | | ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish for being a digibitch |
| 19:48.22 | kergoth | ibot: botsnack |
| 19:48.22 | | thanks kergoth :) |
| 19:54.42 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 19:54.51 | sorphin | this is someone's sig on the car forum i'm on |
| 19:54.55 | sorphin | " Twas the night before exam week and all thru the dorms, not a student was studying, this was the usual norm. Kegs in the kitchen, jello shots in the hall, thanks to the liquor, it was a late night for all. Passed out all around, the kids all slept tight. When they woke up the next day, they thought, "Man, whatta night! We're too hungover to study!" they shouted with cheer. "So to hell with exams, just bring on the beer!!"" |
| 19:56.20 | kergoth | sorphin: lol |
| 19:56.29 | kergoth | sorphin: i need to put that in my fortunes db |
| 19:56.38 | sorphin | kergoth: sounds like a prpplague college story ;) |
| 19:56.48 | kergoth | hah |
| 19:57.02 | kergoth | i was trying to drink a lot of cognac and still kernel develop last night |
| 19:57.07 | kergoth | boy was *that* a bad idea |
| 19:57.14 | sorphin | i saw |
| 19:57.29 | prpplague | sorphin: ha, naw, i was a real geek, didn't get invited anywhere |
| 19:57.34 | kergoth | thankfully i fell asleep before doing any real damage |
| 19:58.00 | prpplague | sorphin: i didn't start drinking till i joined the army......or maybe it was when i got married, can't remember |
| 19:58.09 | sorphin | prolly when you got buried |
| 19:58.12 | sorphin | which means |
| 19:58.19 | sorphin | jordan's turn is next ;) |
| 19:58.32 | prpplague | yep |
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| 20:08.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm having no problem drinking now |
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| 20:11.08 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: we meant you'll drink far more ;) |
| 20:11.42 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I've had my share.... |
| 20:12.11 | prpplague | after the pink floyd some "comfortably numb" is not about drugs, but rather having to deal with a wife :) |
| 20:12.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: prolly not compared to prpplague tho ;) |
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| 20:15.13 | sorphin | BZFlag: allo tim |
| 20:15.22 | prpplague | BZFlag: hail to the CTO |
| 20:15.43 | sorphin | prpplague: Chief Trashcollecting Officer? ;) |
| 20:15.48 | prpplague | BZFlag: or is it CTho |
| 20:23.03 | Russ|werk | cheif tho? |
| 20:23.11 | Russ|werk | wouldn't that be a chick? |
| 20:23.18 | Russ|werk | s/cheif/chief/ |
| 20:23.50 | prpplague | Russ|werk: Chief Tech Ho |
| 20:24.26 | prpplague | Russ|werk: because the ppl in charge of the technology usually get screwed :) |
| 20:29.08 | sorphin | prpplague: like everyone here ;) |
| 20:29.24 | prpplague | yep |
| 20:29.41 | prpplague | anyone know if the vga out on the webpal is working under linux? |
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| 20:30.00 | sorphin | TomW: lo tom |
| 20:30.05 | TomW | hey |
| 20:30.22 | sorphin | 1Z 5E9 966 03 5193 864 6 |
| 20:30.22 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:30.23 | sorphin | Delivered |
| 20:30.24 | sorphin | :) |
| 20:30.41 | prpplague | TomW: as has mine |
| 20:30.45 | TomW | Webpals made it to Horsham, PA. About 70 miles south of here. |
| 20:31.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:31.10 | sorphin | cool |
| 20:31.15 | sorphin | htey left it on the front steps |
| 20:31.15 | TomW | Still no software though, the webpal.bigbrd.com site is still down. |
| 20:31.29 | sorphin | Location: FS |
| 20:31.29 | sorphin | Delivered to: US |
| 20:31.35 | sorphin | FS = front steps :) |
| 20:31.42 | TomW | heh |
| 20:32.29 | sorphin | now as long as it's still there when i get home ;) |
| 20:33.12 | TomW | must be a pretty large box. That should be, what, 22 lbs? |
| 20:33.22 | sorphin | mine is, yeah |
| 20:33.24 | TomW | tempting container, eh? |
| 20:33.28 | sorphin | 2 webpals and a firewire card |
| 20:34.35 | TomW | I won't be here when mine get in, I have a whole lot of work to do on preping some linux workstations and a linux server tonite. Then I have to run one of the workstations back up to the site and finish the install there. |
| 20:34.46 | sorphin | fun |
| 20:34.59 | sorphin | TomW: we won't be able to do anything w/ them tho anyways till we get the serial boards |
| 20:35.03 | sorphin | is my understanding |
| 20:35.20 | TomW | at least they aren't windoze boxes. But, then, if they were windoze boxes it wouldn't be me that is working on them. |
| 20:35.48 | TomW | sorphin: I have MAX232 chips here to make the serial boards for my units. |
| 20:36.04 | TomW | sorphin: remember, I'm the guy that can solder? :D |
| 20:36.08 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:36.10 | sorphin | so can i |
| 20:36.12 | prpplague | i'm just gonna order some boards |
| 20:36.25 | sorphin | prpplague: you mean soon as russ makes the layout? ;) |
| 20:36.26 | TomW | prpplague: weenie |
| 20:36.34 | prpplague | sorphin: no |
| 20:36.42 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:36.53 | sorphin | TomW: i'll solder the damn thing myself |
| 20:36.56 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.al-williams.com/rs1.htm |
| 20:37.09 | sorphin | i just need a fscking board to solder to |
| 20:37.17 | prpplague | sorphin: you can order just the board |
| 20:37.31 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:37.53 | sorphin | pins the same on the non db end ? |
| 20:38.15 | sorphin | if so, we don't need russ to make anything |
| 20:38.25 | prpplague | same order? probably not, but that doesn't matter, as long as the signals can be matched |
| 20:38.32 | TomW | sorphin: maybe you'd better keep that dremel-lookalike until you get the boards. Just so you have something to cut the plastic case with to mount your DB9? |
| 20:38.46 | sorphin | TomW: nah |
| 20:39.02 | sorphin | TomW: i used a drill bit to cut the aread out i used for my jtag connector |
| 20:39.08 | sorphin | -d |
| 20:39.11 | TomW | I used to "cut" plastic using my sodering iron, that is messy! |
| 20:39.18 | sorphin | and a razor blade |
| 20:39.26 | sorphin | TomW: and very smelly |
| 20:39.29 | prpplague | TomW: ya i remember those days |
| 20:39.45 | CosmicPenguin | when somebody makes a decision about the serial cards, they'll let me know, right? |
| 20:39.47 | sorphin | i did that to cut the opening in the project box for my VFD display |
| 20:39.49 | TomW | messes the tinning on the tip up something fierce. |
| 20:39.59 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: just buy that thing prpplague posted ;p |
| 20:40.08 | Russ|werk | sorphin: I can make a 10x14 pcb with rs232 boards and shanip2 boards, and maybe some jtag stuff |
| 20:40.18 | Russ|werk | sorphin: a nice potporri |
| 20:40.37 | sorphin | shanip2 ? which is the one most usd now? 3 or 2? |
| 20:40.47 | Russ|werk | I wasn't aware of a shanip3 |
| 20:41.39 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: Cables will be very important because of the way the damn case is made |
| 20:43.46 | sorphin | ok dammit |
| 20:44.34 | sorphin | i coulda sworn there was a shanip3 |
| 20:44.39 | sorphin | but now of course |
| 20:44.45 | sorphin | finding anything in the damn wiki |
| 20:45.19 | andersee | Russ|werk: If you make some shanip boards, I'll buy 2 |
| 20:46.41 | sorphin | yup, i knew there was one |
| 20:46.56 | sorphin | > Will one of the IP mod boards |
| 20:46.56 | sorphin | > (1,2 or 3) accomplish this or will a more complex board be needed? |
| 20:46.56 | sorphin | One of these boards will be needed to record/playback audio from the |
| 20:46.56 | sorphin | tuxscreen's speakerphone or handset. They all are supposed to do the |
| 20:46.56 | sorphin | same thing, but they are different designs. The ShanIP 2 gives you the |
| 20:46.56 | sorphin | best audio quality, and the ShanIP 3 uses the fewest components. ShanIP |
| 20:46.58 | sorphin | 1 is the original Lucent design, but the external op-amp is unnecessary, |
| 20:47.00 | sorphin | among other problems. Basically, use ShanIP2 unless you want to tinker |
| 20:47.02 | sorphin | with the design of ShanIP3 to make it work better. |
| 20:47.04 | sorphin | tho |
| 20:50.44 | sorphin | there it is |
| 20:50.59 | sorphin | tis experimental, but it's on the schematics page |
| 21:02.12 | Russ|werk | should I do both? |
| 21:02.20 | Russ|werk | because I need to make the panel not look panelized |
| 21:02.52 | sorphin | well, i dunno how well if atall 3 works |
| 21:14.16 | sorphin | TomW: wake up solderboy |
| 21:16.00 | TomW | sorphin: naw, others did the Tux schematics. I only worked from them and found some mistakes. |
| 21:16.51 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i was wondering how you were gonna get away with doing more than one board....... |
| 21:17.10 | Russ|werk | mix them up, connect them with traces |
| 21:17.25 | Russ|werk | put a few interfaces along the edge of the board that look complex |
| 21:17.55 | Russ|werk | make it look like a large io board |
| 21:17.59 | prpplague | Russ|werk: how do you keep the traces from peeling when you cut them apart? |
| 21:18.34 | Russ|werk | connect them to a 0805 footprint |
| 21:19.12 | prpplague | Russ|werk: 0805? |
| 21:19.31 | Russ|werk | its a surface mount for a resistor or capacitor |
| 21:19.49 | Russ|werk | 1205, 0805, 0603, 0402, etc |
| 21:20.00 | TomW | I like the 1206 package, you can hand solder those on, the 0805 is so tiny. |
| 21:20.13 | Russ|werk | the 0805 is very hand solderable |
| 21:20.24 | Russ|werk | the 0603 isn't (for me at least) |
| 21:20.29 | prpplague | ahh gotcha |
| 21:37.40 | sorphin | i've done 0603 no prob |
| 21:38.18 | sorphin | only thing that annoys me |
| 21:38.32 | sorphin | are the 208+ pin plccs |
| 21:38.43 | sorphin | or whatever the hell they are |
| 21:48.10 | prpplague | did anyone find the jtag on the webpals? |
| 21:49.23 | sorphin | only person here so far that's even gotten to look at theirs yet is jordan |
| 21:50.21 | prpplague | and me |
| 21:51.23 | sorphin | ah |
| 21:52.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I didn't see any JT |
| 21:52.43 | CosmicPenguin | AG |
| 21:52.47 | CosmicPenguin | Did somebody say they had one? |
| 21:53.02 | sorphin | he was just guessing i think |
| 21:53.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the chip is suppose to have a jtag IIRC |
| 21:54.00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ah, the chip. But not so much the board? |
| 21:54.01 | sorphin | prpplague: doesn't mean they brought it out tho ;) |
| 21:55.53 | prpplague | hmm, no, i'm not seeing any reference to jtag on the chip either |
| 21:56.23 | Russ|werk | I looked at mine, I didn't pull up the pinout of the cirrus though |
| 21:56.41 | Russ|werk | prpplague: that would make sense, given that the flash is on a module |
| 21:57.39 | Russ|werk | I might be able to attempt a dimm socket<->ide interface |
| 21:58.19 | sorphin | why when we already have ide ? |
| 21:58.33 | prpplague | sorphin: for reprogramming bricked sims |
| 21:58.58 | sorphin | heh, can't the bitch boot from the ide w/o flash? :P |
| 21:59.13 | Russ|werk | nope...just like any board |
| 22:00.14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: they have scematics for a SIM burner on that website |
| 22:00.37 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: can you give me a quick link? |
| 22:00.37 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:00.51 | CosmicPenguin | damm |
| 22:00.57 | sorphin | isn't that hte site htat's down? :P |
| 22:01.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 22:01.27 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, its down |
| 22:01.30 | prpplague | ya it looks like there are few lines that aren't use that could be played with |
| 22:01.36 | Russ|werk | osrphin: si htat a ofrm fo ipg altin? |
| 22:02.33 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: rot13 osrphin: si htat a ofrm fo ipg altin? |
| 22:02.33 | | bfecuva: fv ugng n bsez sb vct nygva? |
| 22:02.49 | sorphin | wtf? |
| 22:03.04 | sorphin | i typoed :P get over it |
| 22:03.05 | prpplague | ibot: rot13 wtf? |
| 22:03.05 | | jgs? |
| 22:03.27 | sorphin | ~kill prpplague |
| 22:03.31 | sorphin | oh wait |
| 22:03.35 | sorphin | he's already buried ;p |
| 22:05.16 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:05.18 | prpplague | i kinda like this swapable flash |
| 22:05.19 | sorphin | you killed ibot |
| 22:05.25 | sorphin | prpplague: here's an idea |
| 22:05.33 | Russ|werk | he made a board to program it, but its complex |
| 22:05.56 | sorphin | i'm gonna see if any of my cisco flash fits :P |
| 22:07.17 | Russ|werk | I always thought there were more than three address lines on ide |
| 22:07.51 | sorphin | ummm |
| 22:07.54 | sorphin | i thought there were |
| 22:08.25 | Russ|werk | guess not |
| 22:08.33 | sorphin | hrm |
| 22:08.35 | sorphin | guess not |
| 22:09.07 | sorphin | 15 data lines, 3 addr and other signals |
| 22:09.21 | Russ|werk | I guess I'll have to make a latch if I want to use IDE |
| 22:09.42 | Russ|werk | adr 0x0 = data adr 0x1 = addr latch |
| 22:10.33 | Russ|werk | hmm...people may prefer parallel port though |
| 22:10.45 | sorphin | mebbe |
| 22:11.05 | sorphin | Russ|werk: when i get to look at mine in person when i get home, i may have some thoughts |
| 22:11.23 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: you don't like the flash concept then? |
| 22:11.35 | Russ|werk | which flash concept? |
| 22:13.11 | sorphin | Russ|werk: prolly CF |
| 22:14.10 | CosmicPenguin | on the webpal, why would you want to convert flash to use ide? |
| 22:14.26 | Russ|werk | if you brick the flash simm |
| 22:14.41 | Russ|werk | an easy way to eletrically connect it to a computer, would be IDE |
| 22:17.38 | sorphin | i just love when every page google fines |
| 22:17.40 | sorphin | finds |
| 22:17.44 | sorphin | isn't english |
| 22:19.49 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: fair enough |
| 22:20.42 | Russ|werk | ide would require one ic, and a module |
| 22:20.48 | Russ|werk | socket thingy |
| 22:21.15 | CosmicPenguin | anyone have a tuxscreen handy? |
| 22:21.30 | sorphin | nope, mine are at home |
| 22:21.45 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: same here |
| 22:21.50 | sorphin | why? |
| 22:23.19 | CosmicPenguin | I wanted a cat of /proc/devices |
| 22:23.26 | CosmicPenguin | But I'll do it tonight when I get home |
| 22:23.35 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:24.04 | CosmicPenguin | Hey, I finally got .MOV support built into mplayer |
| 22:24.07 | CosmicPenguin | pretty freeking cool |
| 22:24.13 | Russ|werk | actually, I could probably do parallel with 2 bit shifting ic's and maybe one more for logic |
| 22:26.25 | Russ|werk | his setup uses a pic prototype board |
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| 22:56.15 | prpplague | this may sound like a stupid question, but..... why can't you connect the flash directly to a cf slot? |
| 22:58.05 | prpplague | i wonder if you could use a disk-on-module core for the flash |
| 23:00.30 | prpplague | Russ|werk: the lenght of the traces to the flash are pretty critical right? |
| 23:01.29 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: still want /proc/devices? |
| 23:03.54 | Russ|werk | prpplague: no |
| 23:04.05 | Russ|werk | prpplague: you can usually clock it at whatever rate you want |
| 23:04.21 | Russ|werk | cf slot plugs are expensive I think, and difficult to solder |
| 23:05.28 | prpplague | Russ|werk: the connections won't be a problem i have some cf prototype stuff |
| 23:05.49 | prpplague | i'm just wondering electicall what would be different |
| 23:06.18 | Russ|werk | cf would probably a pretty good fit, but there might not be enough address lines |
| 23:06.40 | prpplague | on the cf or on the flash module? |
| 23:07.27 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: yeah, lay it on me |
| 23:07.46 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: one sec |
| 23:07.54 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: priv it to me, will ya? |
| 23:07.58 | MonMotha | let me bring up another minicom (have the ipaq on ttyS0 and the tux on ttyS1 :) |
| 23:07.59 | MonMotha | k |
| 23:09.03 | Russ|werk | prpplague: the flash module would because a "cf module" |
| 23:09.39 | Russ|werk | prpplague: I think most people would prefer parallel though, even if it requires a couple ic's |
| 23:10.12 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i agreed, i'm just thinking aloud, i need to tinker with some of this and see what i can blow up :) |
| 23:12.28 | Russ|werk | the simm slot will be the most complex, expensive part on the board |
| 23:12.46 | prpplague | i'm wondering if i could just add a second sim slot so i can use to sticks at once |
| 23:12.48 | Russ|werk | 72 pin through hole component |
| 23:13.04 | Russ|werk | prpplague: heh, you can use a memory DIMM and get two banks (as apposed to SIMM) |
| 23:14.37 | prpplague | Russ|werk: but i want to swap out boards, i.e. reprogram one |
| 23:16.44 | prpplague | Russ|werk: why could you not get one of those old 72-pin sim multiplier boards and use that? |
| 23:31.54 | Russ|werk | prpplague: ? |
| 23:32.15 | andersee | Russ|werk: What device are we discussing here? |
| 23:32.18 | Russ|werk | oh, right |
| 23:32.19 | Russ|werk | I see |
| 23:32.26 | Russ|werk | prpplague: there probably wouldn't be room |
| 23:32.44 | Russ|werk | andersee: webpal |
| 23:32.49 | andersee | Ahh |
| 23:34.06 | prpplague | andersee: you not get one? |
| 23:34.17 | andersee | prpplague: nope |
| 23:34.26 | prpplague | andersee: not want one? |
| 23:35.10 | prpplague | Russ|werk: there is a second chip pad on the simm board |
| 23:35.21 | Russ|werk | prpplague: oh, that |
| 23:35.29 | prpplague | Russ|werk: whats the probablity of putting another chip there and it work? |
| 23:35.29 | Russ|werk | prpplague: its aparently populated on some webpals |
| 23:35.54 | Russ|werk | prpplague: so a pretty good probablity |
| 23:36.26 | Russ|werk | prpplague: with the ide connector though, I really only care if there is enough room for a bootloader, and a kernel |
| 23:36.51 | prpplague | Russ|werk: agreed, it just the first time i've had some cheap memory to play with |
| 23:37.22 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i guess the second chip would be hardwired to a higher address right? |
| 23:37.28 | Russ|werk | you may be able to construct a DOC or NAND replacement simm |
| 23:37.48 | Russ|werk | prpplague: no, the second chip would be D16-D31 |
| 23:38.05 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ahh gotcha |
| 23:38.54 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: can't have enough arms... :) |
| 23:39.07 | prpplague | or legs or kidneys |
| 23:39.09 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: especially at $12.95 |
| 23:40.28 | prpplague | Russ|werk: http://mtrob.fdns.net/~webpal/rom_sim_pinouts.txt |
| 23:40.52 | prpplague | Russ|werk: why do suppose the DQ lines are duplicated? |
| 23:41.17 | prpplague | Russ|werk: for the second chip? |
| 23:41.23 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: $13 bucks eh? |
| 23:41.24 | file[laptop] | $12.95? |
| 23:41.26 | file[laptop] | where? |
| 23:41.42 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: How much ram can it take? How fast? |
| 23:41.52 | file[laptop] | point me in the right direction somebody |
| 23:42.17 | prpplague | andersee: http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html |
| 23:42.31 | prpplague | andersee: probably not this one :( |
| 23:43.05 | file[laptop] | I want it |
| 23:43.27 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: tis slow |
| 23:43.35 | prpplague | ibot: tell file |
| 23:43.40 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: 30mhz Cirrus |
| 23:43.49 | prpplague | ibot: tell file[laptop] |
| 23:43.49 | file[laptop] | wait a bloody second - where.. is.. Canada shipping? |
| 23:44.01 | prpplague | doh |
| 23:44.11 | CosmicPenguin | Sucks to be a canuck, apparently... :) |
| 23:44.21 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: your very right |
| 23:44.26 | file[laptop] | considering I could afford the thing |
| 23:44.40 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: yeah, I think I'll pass on this one. |
| 23:44.51 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I got one just for the fun of it |
| 23:44.53 | prpplague | hell with all the stuff customs has taken that was shipped to file, they probably have a cray built in the back room |
| 23:45.03 | file[laptop] | prpplague: they only took your thing! |
| 23:45.13 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I'm not cool enough to have people spontanously send me stuff.. :) |
| 23:45.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not true |
| 23:45.30 | CosmicPenguin | oh, yeah... except for prpplague |
| 23:45.35 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Sure. Does look fun. I've just got boxes of unopened fun already... |
| 23:45.38 | andersee | :-) |
| 23:46.57 | prpplague | i'm out here guys |
| 23:46.57 | file[laptop] | darn it |
| 23:47.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: later - have a good one |
| 23:47.08 | prpplague | time to go work out, so i can drink more beer! |
| 23:47.35 | CosmicPenguin | Thats LOtR day |
| 23:48.17 | file[laptop] | an ISA slot too? |
| 23:48.20 | file[laptop] | oooh |
| 23:50.31 | kergoth | shit, i havent bought my tickets yet |
| 23:52.00 | CosmicPenguin | 2:30 Wed here |
| 23:52.28 | CosmicPenguin | Gotta watch FoTR tomorrow night |
| 23:55.53 | BZFlag | FoTR? |
| 23:56.06 | BZFlag | ah, fellowship. |
| 23:56.26 | Russ|werk | I just figured l and f might be next to eachother on a qwerty keyboard |
| 23:57.19 | BZFlag | the extended FotR dvd rox. ;-) |