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02:51.13prpplaguelandley: hey you jobless hippie
02:51.18prpplaguehehe
03:00.32landleyis currently hating balsa.
03:00.55landleyIt has a bug in the pop3 downloading with such bad logging it refuses to identify the message it's barfing on so I can delete it through the web interface.
03:01.09landleyAnd building it from source to stick printfs in is gnome dependency hell.
03:02.05prpplaguehehe
03:02.19prpplaguelandley: the fun of getting the source to hack on
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03:07.49calculuslandley: looking at the gentoo ebuild, it looks like the gnome stuff is optional
03:09.25calculushttp://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/mail-client/balsa/balsa-2.4.12.ebuild
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03:25.00landleycalculus: libintl isn't.
03:25.14landleylibgmime-2.6-dev isn't.
03:25.24landleygtk+-2.0-dev isn't.
03:27.04landleyHmmm, it _does_ have a --without-gnome option to configure though...
03:27.26landleyWhich still wants a package called "gnome-icon-theme"...
03:27.36landleyand gthread-2.0
03:27.57landleyI know pthread is horrible, but wrapping it isn't going to improve matters...
03:30.59calculuswell, maybe less gnome dependencies
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03:39.58landleyI keep going "ok, libgtkhtml3.14 is installed but it needs libgtkhtml3.14-dev", and apt-get goes "1 packages upgraded, 34 newly installed"...
03:40.08landleylibgnutls-openssl27{a}?  Really?
03:40.30landleyAlright, shoehorn in another 34.9 megabytes of crap, see if I care...
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07:04.07Kasreynlinux 2.6.39 arch/arm/include/asm/unistd.h has #define __ARM_NR_set_tls, something that is lacking in linux 2.6.9 include/asm-arm/unistd.h. glibc 2.5.1 fails to compile because of this. does that mean NPTL is not possible on 2.6.9 kernel ?
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15:23.19sledgesdo you know any freely available IVIs out there (with binaries to try out for x86) (already tried Tizen IVI and MeeGo IVI. Ubuntu IVI remix looks dead) ?
15:40.13prpplaguesledges: join #linuxice
15:40.18prpplaguesledges: ask there
15:41.11chouimatmorning
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17:38.25landleyI dowanna right my own email program.
17:38.31landleyOh well, at least I get to do it in stages.
17:38.44prpplaguehehe
17:39.22landleyI never did figure out why Balsa's email filtering was broken, or why it couldn't detect and delete duplicate messages (defined as ALL the headers match, including presence/absence of List-ID).
17:39.32landleyBut I wrote a python mbox parser that did that just fine.
17:40.13landleyI never did figure out why balsa's pop3 email fetcher was barfing on "message 331" and aborting the transaction (after dumping 330 duplicate messages into the mbox each fetch, which didn't get deleted from the server because it didn't "quit", just closed the connectino.)
17:40.37landleyBut the python libpop.POP3_SSL standard library thing seems to work reasonably well.
17:41.14landleyNow I'm trying to figure out how Balsa escapes inline "From " lines that don't signal the start of a new message in an mbox, and I've just shown it has two codepaths that do DIFFERENT escapes to it.
17:41.18landleyOne of which is really stupid.
17:41.40landleyI envy people for whom software just works.
17:41.42landleyThey use macs.
17:44.27landleySo yeah, once I've figured out how to properly escape and collate the pop3 contents to an mbox file in the format balsa wants (it's adding X-Status: headers with three spaces after 'em so it can mark D state inline)...
17:44.36landleyAnd once I teach my python filter program to filter.
17:44.50landleyAnd set it downloading the remaining year+ of back email...
17:44.54landleyTHEN I should have email again.
17:44.56landleyI look forward to it.
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