| 01:30.08 | MonMotha | T0mW: you know that digikey search function you were raving about? It's not particularyl useful when it just returns "generic search exception" half the time |
| 01:30.46 | T0mW | LOL |
| 01:31.02 | T0mW | I don't recall ever seeing that |
| 01:32.06 | T0mW | I spent last night researching some parts and looking up pricing + availablity, then posted an order. I must have made 50..100 queries over the course of 1..2 hours |
| 01:33.59 | MonMotha | I'd say about 1/4 the time I submit a query I get an error |
| 01:34.58 | MonMotha | *** Exception: Generic Exception in CKeywordSearch::Search *** |
| 01:35.00 | MonMotha | that |
| 01:35.03 | MonMotha | happens all the damned time |
| 01:38.30 | T0mW | I dunno, when I make a query, I usually do something like "1mm fpc connector", then winnow it down via the results listboxes. |
| 01:39.06 | MonMotha | that's what I'm doing |
| 01:39.23 | MonMotha | I wonder if it needs javascript |
| 01:39.34 | MonMotha | the bug seems random though |
| 01:39.38 | T0mW | ah! I have javascript enabled |
| 01:40.02 | T0mW | MonMotha: and cookies too |
| 01:40.48 | MonMotha | I have cookies enabled |
| 01:40.54 | MonMotha | but javascript is currently disabled |
| 01:41.11 | MonMotha | I'd think that if that was going to cause problems, it would just plain not work |
| 01:41.34 | MonMotha | and nope, it's still doing it |
| 01:41.42 | T0mW | give me the query |
| 01:42.01 | ccjoe | I had that problem today also, I emailed them and they said they were trying to track it down |
| 01:42.17 | MonMotha | T0mW: it's really random. You can re-run the same query and it'll work |
| 01:42.28 | MonMotha | in this case though, "smt inductor" |
| 01:42.34 | T0mW | must have happened with something this morning then, last night (3AM) it was rock solid. |
| 01:42.57 | ccjoe | I didn't have any trouble yesterday |
| 01:43.00 | T0mW | yes, that is not what I've ever seen. |
| 01:44.01 | MonMotha | I've been putting off making this order for a while |
| 01:44.05 | MonMotha | it can wait another day |
| 01:44.18 | MonMotha | still waiting on some stuff from my senior project group anyway |
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| 01:46.05 | MonMotha | they've also had this inductor backordered for over a week (it's supposed to be stock), so I'm looking to replace it on my BOM |
| 01:49.17 | T0mW | MonMotha: did you try looking on mouser for it? |
| 01:52.18 | MonMotha | T0mW: I could do that, but this is so small that I'd like to keep it to one supplier |
| 01:52.28 | MonMotha | I'm only building 3 or 4 of these things |
| 01:53.42 | T0mW | yeah, I know, with the Zipit boards I get the bulk of the parts from Digikey and I have to order the microSD + HV830 EL driver from Mouser. |
| 01:53.54 | MonMotha | gets annoying, I bet |
| 01:54.06 | T0mW | shrug, "cost of doing business" |
| 01:54.25 | MonMotha | yes, but this isn't strictly business |
| 01:54.32 | MonMotha | I'm building these at cost for a couple friends |
| 01:54.51 | T0mW | my time is worth $50/hr right now, how much would I save on the extra shipping from one supplier? |
| 01:54.54 | MonMotha | there's perhaps a worldwide market for about 10 of these |
| 01:55.20 | MonMotha | see, my time on this project is worth a big fat nothing |
| 01:55.32 | T0mW | heh, yeah |
| 01:56.44 | T0mW | ah, it is so nice to have a regular check coming in now with this project. I have cash-flow, it simply flows through my hands to someone else. But, I am doing a lot of the work that I love: design. |
| 01:56.53 | MonMotha | I do however have a date I want it done by |
| 01:59.43 | T0mW | MonMotha: oh, you recall we were talking about sawing the $33 specials apart? |
| 02:00.35 | T0mW | MonMotha: I ordered a Proxxon KS 115 miniature table saw |
| 02:01.33 | MonMotha | ah, ok |
| 02:01.35 | MonMotha | let me know how it works |
| 02:01.48 | MonMotha | I currently just use a hacksaw and put a little extra space between the boards |
| 02:02.08 | MonMotha | works ok, but you have to be aware of the limitations |
| 02:03.48 | T0mW | I also ordered the carbide + diamond cutting discs with it. From what I've seen with the dremel tools, the diamond wheel is probably is what is going to have to be used to get a clean cut. |
| 02:04.17 | T0mW | carbide seems to dull quite quickly when cutting fiberglass PCB stuff. |
| 02:04.59 | T0mW | The diamond wheel just goes through the PCB like a hot knife through butter |
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| 04:25.25 | jbevren | hm |
| 04:25.26 | jbevren | the oxuf922 apps board looks nice, but I didnt get a schematic :( |
| 04:25.37 | jbevren | guess I'll have to trace some lines later :) |
| 04:29.05 | T0mW | jbevren: that sounds like "fun" |
| 04:29.35 | jbevren | the address bus is simple enough |
| 04:29.40 | jbevren | a few chipselects, 16 data bits |
| 04:29.46 | jbevren | and 20 (I think) addr |
| 04:29.53 | jbevren | its a tqfp, which of course makes things quite easy |
| 04:30.12 | T0mW | oh yeah, much easier than BGA |
| 04:30.35 | T0mW | couple of X-acto blades and an ohmmeter... |
| 04:37.42 | jbevren | cool |
| 04:37.50 | jbevren | if I had the dosh, I'd order a modded zipit from ya :) |
| 04:38.36 | T0mW | well, if you can solder the board in, wait. I'm about to run off 30 more boards and offer just the board for sale. |
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| 07:38.32 | jbevren | hehe |
| 07:38.46 | jbevren | T0mW: I'm between jobs, so I cant realistically afford anything but food etc :( |
| 07:38.57 | jbevren | but if youre still making em later, I'll have to get one |
| 07:39.10 | jbevren | I attempted to mmc one of my zipits and wound up losing one of the config resistors inside a solder blob |
| 07:39.33 | jbevren | hwo that happens mystifies me still today, considering I repaired a gouge in a socket370 board that destroyed about 20 traces |
| 07:39.40 | jbevren | right next to the cpu |
| 07:39.41 | jbevren | :) |
| 07:39.45 | jbevren | (and it works still today) |
| 07:40.23 | jbevren | grr where's focus-follows-mouse in Beryl? |
| 07:45.50 | jbevren | lol wtf is my unused gpu running -hotter- for :) |
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| 11:59.17 | chouimat | morning |
| 11:59.24 | chouimat | yay a nice and warm -30C |
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| 19:02.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
| 19:02.41 | CosmicPenguin | pong |
| 19:03.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you know your buddies there in longmont that do embedded winblows dev |
| 19:03.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats their name? |
| 19:04.50 | CosmicPenguin | THe company? |
| 19:05.55 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:06.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: something like birdeye or bluesky or somesuch |
| 19:07.48 | CosmicPenguin | b-square.. :) |
| 19:08.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, any of them hang on irc? |
| 19:08.40 | CosmicPenguin | nah - they're all microsofties |
| 19:08.46 | CosmicPenguin | you can probably find them on MSN or something |
| 19:08.58 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:09.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i sure need to talk to someone there to see what kind $$ would be involved in some embedded winblows dev |
| 19:10.24 | CosmicPenguin | None of them really know - they're the engineers |
| 19:10.35 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sure if you call up b-square, they'll give you a quote |
| 19:10.45 | CosmicPenguin | or at least open up negotiations |
| 19:11.33 | prpplague | yea, what we are trying to find out is if its worth doing some additional hardware dev to work around some issues or if its cost effective to just get a winblows driver |
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| 20:33.09 | chouimat | prpplague: http://clipgallery.blogspot.com/2007/01/truth-about-working-in-it-industry.html |
| 21:24.02 | prpplague | hehe |
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