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| 00:46.35 | bioeng | Hello, is anyone alive in here? |
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| 04:07.55 | ringlej | Hi. I've built a toolchain using buildroot with BR2_STAGING_DIR pointing to an external directory so I could use the toolchain for building software external to buildroot. How can I get a freshly un-tarred buildroot to use the pre-built toolchain without rebuilding the toolchain all over again? |
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| 07:50.36 | T0mW | ringlej: that was one of the most annoying things about buildroot that I ran into: if you accidentally do a 'make clean' you have to go through the pain of rebuilding the cross compiler / utils. |
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| 14:02.56 | GPSFan | prpplague: been awefully quiet here without you.. morning.. |
| 14:08.52 | prpplague | GPSFan: hehe morning |
| 14:09.02 | prpplague | yea, been traveling and all |
| 14:09.04 | prpplague | worn out |
| 14:12.22 | ringlej | How can I get a freshly un-tarred buildroot to use the pre-built toolchain without rebuilding the toolchain all over again? I've already built the toolchain previously with BR2_STAGING_DIR pointing to an external directory to buildroot. |
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| 14:38.13 | CosmicPenguin | Is it bad if I don't trust anybody who quotes RMS in their signature? |
| 14:48.15 | CosmicPenguin | heh - the google code search is kind of cool |
| 14:55.13 | CosmicPenguin | you can ego search yourself |
| 14:59.29 | philv | CosmicPenguin: I'd say that's a good mode of operation |
| 15:04.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 15:05.16 | CosmicPenguin | Microwindows will haunt me forever |
| 15:06.25 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:06.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: still want to get it running on the pixter |
| 15:19.45 | prpplague | T0mW: ping |
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| 16:37.20 | ynezz | hm, looks nice http://openpcd.org/ |
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| 18:03.16 | T0mW | prpplague: pong |
| 18:06.33 | prpplague | T0mW: hey crack baby |
| 18:06.54 | T0mW | prpplague: heh, not I |
| 18:07.15 | prpplague | T0mW: you do any ESD/EMF testing of the littlechips/s3c2410 boards yet? |
| 18:12.45 | prpplague | T0mW: btw, you running apex on your littlechips board correct? |
| 18:37.29 | T0mW | prpplague: correct |
| 18:37.43 | T0mW | prpplague: no flash programming, just the boot |
| 18:40.32 | prpplague | T0mW: so you have done some esd/emf testing? |
| 18:44.38 | T0mW | prpplague: you mean the FCC testing? no. |
| 18:44.47 | prpplague | T0mW: no different test |
| 18:45.06 | T0mW | esd == Electro Static Discharge? |
| 18:45.13 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 18:45.26 | T0mW | emf == Electro Magnetic Field |
| 18:45.47 | T0mW | IOW, "can we hammer this poor thing and make it fail" |
| 18:45.52 | T0mW | heh |
| 18:45.52 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:45.56 | T0mW | naw |
| 18:46.05 | T0mW | we let U/L do that stuff |
| 18:46.13 | prpplague | we are testing with 10kv and the s3c2410 is failing alot |
| 18:46.49 | T0mW | we don't have to follow the same criteria that you would for U/L: different Listings I would guess. |
| 18:47.33 | prpplague | ok, well, just thought i'd let you know for your actual design you are probably gonna need alot more caps than what littlechips is using |
| 18:47.46 | prpplague | T0mW: else you are gonna be pretty sensitive to esd and emf |
| 18:48.05 | T0mW | prpplague: U/L does cool stuff like hook the RS485 circuitry up to 600v @ 10Amps for a hour to see if the board bursts into flames |
| 18:48.33 | T0mW | prpplague: whacks the Zone inputs with 10..20KV |
| 18:48.48 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, we get UL listed as well |
| 18:49.02 | T0mW | IIRC, they whack the power supply line with that as well. |
| 18:49.07 | T0mW | A/C power that is |
| 18:49.30 | prpplague | T0mW: we found that just a 2kv discharge and reset the s3c2410 without proper bypass/decoupling caps |
| 18:49.46 | T0mW | prpplague: depends on where you hit it though |
| 18:53.11 | prpplague | T0mW: from 10 inches away from the board |
| 18:53.21 | prpplague | T0mW: the emf causes a reset |
| 18:54.09 | prpplague | T0mW: only the board we have with caps on all of the vcore and 3.3 lines doesn't have a problem |
| 18:54.42 | T0mW | prpplague: btdt |
| 18:55.23 | T0mW | prpplague: sometimes the caps have to go between 3v3 / GND, other times 3v3 / VDD of power supply |
| 18:55.58 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, funny thing is we followed samsungs recommendations |
| 18:56.30 | prpplague | T0mW: the littlechips board and a couple others we have are all susceptable |
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| 18:59.20 | T0mW | prpplague: apologies Dave, another programmer (linux guy) has stopped by and I'm dividing my attention, not well, between you two. Let me get back to you later? |
| 18:59.29 | prpplague | T0mW: np |
| 19:05.16 | chouimat | hi T0mW prpplague |
| 19:50.02 | isenbeck | prpplague, psssssssssst : ) |
| 19:53.47 | CosmicPenguin | seesh, I think dia has been getting worse with every new release |
| 19:56.48 | prpplague | isenbeck: hey |
| 19:56.52 | prpplague | isenbeck: whats cookin? |
| 19:56.59 | prpplague | isenbeck: donna said she thought you called |
| 19:57.04 | prpplague | isenbeck: cell bat is dead |
| 19:58.50 | MonMotha | gah, I really wish the microsoft shops quick-turn .NET platform shops would stop pestering me |
| 19:58.56 | MonMotha | "Computer Engineering" doesn't mean "code monkey" |
| 19:58.59 | isenbeck | yeah I told her i was a bill collector from "farm-girls.com" and that I wanted my 1 grand for the year long full access subscription you orderd |
| 19:59.00 | MonMotha | I build hardware, thank you |
| 20:00.58 | prpplague | isenbeck: hehe |
| 20:05.28 | prpplague | isenbeck: i'll try to give you a call from the hotel tonight |
| 20:06.10 | ringlej | The buildroot build system creates files like $(STAGING_DIR)/.fakeroot.00000 and $(STAGING_DIR)/.fakeroot.sudo I can't quite follow why these files are created and what they are subsequently used for. Does anyone here know? |
| 20:08.01 | isenbeck | prpplague, sweet.............. |
| 20:08.15 | prpplague | isenbeck: real tired and worn out |
| 20:08.27 | prpplague | isenbeck: the stress of getting organized for the move is kill me |
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