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| 08:15.44 | T0mW | purl: wb |
| 08:15.46 | purl | thx |
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| 12:46.02 | chouimat | morning |
| 12:46.22 | T0mW | it is |
| 12:49.33 | prpplague | ug |
| 12:54.28 | T0mW | prpplague: you were working at feeling this good last night. |
| 12:54.32 | T0mW | hehheh |
| 12:55.41 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe yea, but i don't have a hangover |
| 12:55.51 | prpplague | T0mW: i thinks its some chicken i had yesterday |
| 12:55.56 | T0mW | prpplague: this is a good thing then |
| 12:56.04 | T0mW | ugh |
| 12:56.53 | prpplague | T0mW: i feel as though i need to burp..... |
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| 13:32.29 | T0mW | prpplague: does the 2.6 kernel need to be compiled with eabi or is oabi still ok? |
| 13:35.56 | prpplague | oabi is ok |
| 13:40.00 | chouimat | http://vowe.net/archives/007569.html <-- Nothing up her sleeve (not workplace safe) but the video is definitly funny :) |
| 13:42.04 | T0mW | prpplague: fwiw, I'm not too happy at this point with littlechips |
| 13:43.37 | prpplague | T0mW: oh? |
| 13:43.40 | prpplague | T0mW: why? |
| 13:44.01 | T0mW | prpplague: a number of things, nothing all at once. |
| 13:44.23 | prpplague | T0mW: like what? i'm curious |
| 13:44.29 | T0mW | prpplague: they aren't very well organized, by that I mean, the CD they send is almost useless. |
| 13:45.10 | prpplague | T0mW: ahh, yea, i don't every both with that stuff |
| 13:45.12 | T0mW | for example, they give you a tarball of the linux-2.6.13-lc5 which is what they are sending out on the CD. |
| 13:45.13 | prpplague | T0mW: anything else? |
| 13:45.46 | T0mW | prpplague: the tarball is 70Meg and when I look inside it, there is a arch/arm/boot/zImage |
| 13:45.57 | jbevren | wtf |
| 13:46.00 | jbevren | 70M zimage? |
| 13:46.18 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, that was done by mbuf |
| 13:46.20 | T0mW | prpplague: so, I take that image and try to boot it, it panics the kernel 'cause it canno find the ramdisk |
| 13:46.22 | prpplague | T0mW: iirc |
| 13:47.05 | T0mW | prpplague: in another place on the CD is a dir: Linux/Images/zImage that one boots fine. |
| 13:47.26 | jbevren | crazy |
| 13:47.29 | T0mW | prpplague: so, I've got one with source that don't do sh~t, anohter without source that works. |
| 13:47.40 | T0mW | jbevren: here is the kick in the ass. |
| 13:47.50 | prpplague | T0mW: but hardware wise there isn't a problem? |
| 13:48.18 | T0mW | the only kernel that will ping anything without dropping 24..46% of its packets is the one without source. |
| 13:49.16 | prpplague | T0mW: just docs the issue? |
| 13:49.23 | T0mW | I've tried building the source for the 2.6.13 that they distro'd using gcc versions 4.0.2 and 3.4.5, niether one will build that source to give a system that will ping without dropping packets. |
| 13:49.37 | chouimat | ouch |
| 13:49.49 | T0mW | prpplague: that is why I was asking about the eabi |
| 13:50.09 | T0mW | prpplague: AFAIK, eabi is only available on gcc 4.x compilers |
| 13:50.15 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 13:50.22 | T0mW | ok, get this |
| 13:50.33 | prpplague | T0mW: i generally use a 3.x compilier for our stuff |
| 13:51.13 | jbevren | http://vowe.net/archives/007594.html (likewise NSFW but funny) |
| 13:51.14 | T0mW | inside the Makefile of the source is this for the CROSS_COMPILE: arm-none-linux-gnueabi |
| 13:51.50 | T0mW | but, they don't give you that compiler, they send you gcc-2.95.3 with instructions to use that to compile the 2.6 kernel! |
| 13:52.07 | chouimat | jbevren: I think I'm starting to love magic tricks ;) |
| 13:52.35 | prpplague | T0mW: but you have to remember, the cd is provided as an extra, its not something they did or support |
| 13:52.42 | T0mW | :( |
| 13:52.47 | prpplague | T0mW: all you are getting with the board is the schematic |
| 13:53.12 | prpplague | T0mW: why are you bothering with their cd anyway? |
| 13:53.34 | T0mW | from their site: "Lniux 2.6.13 kernel support was added (10/10/05)" |
| 13:53.52 | prpplague | the 2.6.17 kernel has 99% of the code needed for the ln2410sbc board |
| 13:54.21 | T0mW | prpplague: I'm just a bit down right now. |
| 13:54.37 | prpplague | T0mW: i can see that , hehe |
| 13:54.45 | prpplague | T0mW: i guess its different for me |
| 13:54.57 | prpplague | T0mW: i never expect any support for the board vendor |
| 13:54.57 | T0mW | prpplague: I did modify the cs89x0 source to add the board to it, but, that drops packets. |
| 13:56.00 | T0mW | receive is worse than transmit, IOW, if I ping from a computer, I get a huge packet loss. Ping from the board and it is a low packet loss. |
| 13:56.17 | prpplague | sounds like a fifo issue |
| 13:56.31 | T0mW | ping it with 800 byte packets and the board won't answer, won't answer with 100 byte packets either. |
| 13:57.07 | T0mW | heh |
| 13:57.44 | prpplague | well you are gonna find basically two types of board vendors |
| 13:58.06 | prpplague | 1) is where you basically just get the hardware, maybe some examples stuff, but not much else |
| 13:58.53 | prpplague | with these you have to do most of the work on the software side, but generally the hardware is solid and doesn't contain any speciality stuff like custom cpld or fpga |
| 13:59.29 | prpplague | 2) the other is where the board is highly customized and the vendor provides alot of documentation. |
| 13:59.53 | prpplague | problem with those are that the changes in the software are extensive, and usually they use an out of date kernel |
| 14:00.01 | prpplague | i.e. logic pd |
| 14:00.36 | prpplague | these boards are good for getting up and running and doing some tests, but they make terrible platforms for using as a base for a new project |
| 14:00.54 | T0mW | heh |
| 14:01.23 | T0mW | won't compile under 2.95.3, not a surprise. I'm going to call them later and see what is up. |
| 14:01.51 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, good luck, i doubt you'll get far |
| 14:02.10 | prpplague | T0mW: they just want to sell the board, not really concerned about what you are using it for |
| 14:02.14 | T0mW | prpplague: btw, cs8900 runs full-duplex, right? |
| 14:02.36 | prpplague | T0mW: it can |
| 14:02.43 | T0mW | but...? |
| 14:02.54 | jbevren | many switches wont run 10bT fdx |
| 14:02.57 | prpplague | T0mW: but you have to tell it to run full-duplex |
| 14:03.00 | T0mW | oh |
| 14:03.32 | T0mW | jbevren: I just thought taht might be contributing to the packet loss is all |
| 14:04.56 | jbevren | T0mW: Nod |
| 14:05.12 | jbevren | I dont know if the cs8900 properly negotiates 10FDX |
| 14:06.57 | T0mW | well, I have it set for half-duplex right now. |
| 14:07.23 | jbevren | nod |
| 14:07.41 | jbevren | that said, I havent had any issues with my linksys 5port switch with going from 100T to 10T on pings or data transfers |
| 14:08.06 | jbevren | this is in general, not specifically with a CS8900. I havent (to my knowledge) used a CS8900 before |
| 14:09.45 | prpplague | jbevren: only see them on some older 16bit isa cards |
| 14:12.19 | T0mW | prpplague: one thing that I found that I thought was odd, I had to slow the CS1 chip select waaaaaay down before the driver would consistently find the cs8900 |
| 14:12.52 | prpplague | thats interesting indeed |
| 14:16.07 | chouimat | prpplague: poor you ;) |
| 14:16.34 | T0mW | ah, uboot has it at 0x1f7c, pretty slow too. |
| 14:17.29 | prpplague | T0mW: we are using the enc28j60 for our stuff |
| 14:17.49 | prpplague | T0mW: but we had looked at using the cs8900 |
| 14:18.01 | prpplague | T0mW: i have a couple 8 and 16 bit boards |
| 14:18.17 | T0mW | prpplague: it is an "oldie but goodie" |
| 14:18.25 | prpplague | yea |
| 14:18.38 | prpplague | man i think i'm getting sick, i'm getting cold/hot flashes |
| 14:18.57 | T0mW | prpplague: I used that on a Motorola MC68EZ328 design running uClinux. |
| 14:19.27 | prpplague | T0mW: the enc28j60? |
| 14:19.32 | T0mW | prpplague: when you burp from the other end, you will know that a problem exits! |
| 14:19.52 | T0mW | rotfl |
| 14:20.05 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:20.25 | T0mW | prpplague: sorry dave, food poisoning is only funny when it is not happening to yourself. |
| 14:20.56 | prpplague | not sure if its food poisoning, might just be some flu or something |
| 14:21.08 | prpplague | we get so many tourists through here that get sick |
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| 14:21.19 | T0mW | If I had a fifo problem, then I should get a OVERRUN |
| 14:21.45 | chouimat | prpplague: :) |
| 14:21.48 | prpplague | T0mW: yea you _should_ |
| 14:22.42 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, did i tell you what my son said about shakespear? |
| 14:22.58 | chouimat | prpplague: you told me ... |
| 14:23.14 | jbevren | grumble |
| 14:23.17 | jbevren | I want my new toy today |
| 14:23.18 | prpplague | chouimat: ahh ok, hehe |
| 14:23.18 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:23.43 | prpplague | chouimat: i guess for a canadian, it might not be that funny |
| 14:23.54 | chouimat | prpplague: it's funny ... |
| 14:24.03 | jbevren | prpplague: so, dont leave the rest of us in suspense |
| 14:24.05 | jbevren | what'd he say? |
| 14:24.22 | T0mW | prpplague: hmm, edge triggered interrupts into the processor ok? |
| 14:24.33 | prpplague | jbevren: he was looking up shakespear on google, it had a few drawings of what he looked like |
| 14:24.42 | T0mW | prpplague: or, should I use level triggered? |
| 14:24.46 | prpplague | jbevren: so he asks me where shakespear is from |
| 14:24.57 | prpplague | T0mW: you can do either |
| 14:25.11 | prpplague | jbevren: i tell him england to which he responds |
| 14:25.43 | prpplague | jbevren: "that doesn't seem right, he's too freaky looking to be from england, he must be from some place weird like canada!" |
| 14:25.49 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:25.51 | chouimat | http://members.optusnet.com.au/~hamishrodda/kdev4-duchain.png <--- this is so cool ... it even works across #include boundaries |
| 14:26.04 | jbevren | prpplague: now that you mention that, I remember you saying so |
| 14:26.20 | jbevren | wasnt he born in stratford-on-avon or something? |
| 14:26.29 | prpplague | yea |
| 14:26.42 | jbevren | chouimat: what editor is that |
| 14:27.05 | chouimat | jbevren: kate in kde4 |
| 14:27.12 | chouimat | jbevren: sorry kdevelop4 |
| 14:29.46 | chouimat | jbevren: look at the line 25 and see the 'j' in red because it's out of scope |
| 14:30.07 | jbevren | hm |
| 14:30.55 | jbevren | I just like how it puts bars on the clauses |
| 14:31.03 | jbevren | helps you track {} uage |
| 14:31.12 | jbevren | s/ua/usa/ |
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| 14:31.24 | jbevren | prpplague: MC is handy as he// |
| 14:31.32 | chouimat | jbevren: and it also work very well with LISP ;) |
| 14:31.44 | jbevren | shame you need kde to run it ;-) |
| 14:32.03 | chouimat | jbevren: I don't mind ... |
| 14:32.05 | prpplague | jbevren: yep |
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| 14:32.55 | chouimat | jbevren: the bar thing is a feautre of kate even in kde3 ... we simply use kate as default editor part ... and add features over it |
| 14:33.17 | prpplague | davidc__: greetings |
| 14:33.25 | jbevren | vim6 can help with that too, but I never remember the keypress for it |
| 14:36.53 | prpplague | its hard to believe that scox in 2000 was at $120 a share |
| 14:38.55 | CosmicPenguin | They have to be below $1 for a year |
| 14:39.20 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: I think it is less time than that |
| 14:39.34 | CosmicPenguin | it might be 6 months |
| 14:39.53 | CosmicPenguin | But its a goodly amount of time |
| 14:40.35 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: they can also be de-listed if they are > $1 shareprice but their assets are weak |
| 14:41.04 | CosmicPenguin | Nod - but that involves a hearing and the whole bit |
| 14:41.24 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, well they have assets, i.e. assholes, ass-wipes, ass munchers |
| 14:41.25 | T0mW | ~quote scox |
| 14:41.30 | CosmicPenguin | well, both do, but the < $1 thing is contractual |
| 14:41.43 | T0mW | ooooooh lowest I've seen in YEARS! |
| 14:42.11 | prpplague | T0mW: yea it started droping after the judge threw out almost 300 of their claims |
| 14:42.28 | T0mW | goodie goodie goodie goodie goodie goodie |
| 14:43.05 | prpplague | T0mW: they only have about 100 claims left, and the judge warned them that if they don't provide good evidence, he was gonna leave the door open for companies to sue sco for libel(sp?) |
| 14:43.26 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, I follow what PJ is reporting |
| 14:43.32 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:44.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://image.weather.com/images/sat/atl_oce_sat_720x486.jpg |
| 14:44.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we are already getting some giant waves from the storm of the coast of africa |
| 14:46.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so since there aren't many people in your office now, think anyone would notice if you showed up for work in your boxers? |
| 14:46.26 | CosmicPenguin | wow - thats a goodly chain of storms |
| 14:46.38 | CosmicPenguin | I *am* in my boxers |
| 14:46.43 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:47.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe noaa - "A VIGOROUS TROPICAL WAVE" |
| 14:47.28 | prpplague | generally their wording is very reserved |
| 14:47.39 | prpplague | first time i've seen them describe a storm that way |
| 14:48.01 | T0mW | TX packets:53 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:2 |
| 14:48.12 | prpplague | T0mW: nice |
| 14:48.17 | prpplague | T0mW: what did you have to do? |
| 14:48.31 | T0mW | dunno, that is the way it 'tis |
| 14:48.33 | CosmicPenguin | The storm in the pacific is named Hector |
| 14:48.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i bet that one in the atlantic becomes ahurricane |
| 14:48.57 | CosmicPenguin | we'll see |
| 14:48.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its been too quiet |
| 14:49.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lots of heat energy out there for it to suck up |
| 14:49.25 | CosmicPenguin | yep - this is the danger time |
| 14:49.52 | T0mW | RX packets:97 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 |
| 14:49.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: fortunately its too far north for it to really be a danger for us |
| 14:50.06 | CosmicPenguin | hurricanes are bad |
| 14:50.44 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:50.47 | prpplague | 1) women 2) hangovers 3) taxes 4) hurricanes |
| 14:51.24 | jbevren | http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/input/88ee/ |
| 14:51.30 | prpplague | hehe, stomach feeling alot better, now it just feels like heartburn |
| 14:52.09 | CosmicPenguin | unfortunately, that only works with doze |
| 14:52.16 | CosmicPenguin | or O wiould totally buy one |
| 14:52.37 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:52.55 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: nod |
| 14:53.02 | CosmicPenguin | they're trying to get the oLPC guys to look at that technology |
| 14:53.09 | CosmicPenguin | just a taddd expensive |
| 14:54.27 | prpplague | http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=330&style=a&color=31&size=3%3A+CHOOSE+A+SIZE |
| 14:54.41 | prpplague | i have that, but donna won;t let me wear it in public, hehe |
| 14:54.43 | T0mW | prpplague: I'm not seeing errors of any real kind for ifconfig, you have any ideas why I'm dropping packets but get no errors? |
| 14:55.12 | prpplague | T0mW: i'd guess that it would be either one of two things |
| 14:55.32 | prpplague | T0mW: 1) the interrupt isn't getting serviced fast enough |
| 14:55.45 | T0mW | pinging 127.0.01 doesn't cause problems... |
| 14:55.47 | T0mW | heh |
| 14:56.00 | prpplague | T0mW: yea well loopback is a special case |
| 14:56.13 | prpplague | T0mW: it techinically doesn't even reach the nic driver |
| 14:56.30 | T0mW | well, maybe I'll try their source file for the cs8900, maybe they wrote it because of a problem with the current driver. |
| 14:56.44 | prpplague | T0mW: 2) or there is some aspect of the fifo that is incorrectly set on size/limits |
| 14:56.51 | T0mW | prpplague: yeah, at least it checks the network layer a bit. |
| 14:57.19 | T0mW | prpplague: I don't find any fifo the cs8900, pretty simple chip really. |
| 14:57.30 | prpplague | T0mW: hehe, sorta, loopback doesn't really fit into a mold |
| 14:57.53 | T0mW | cul, I need some ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
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| 14:58.00 | prpplague | T0mW: okie grokie |
| 14:58.51 | chouimat | prpplague: maybe she will let you wear this one: http://www.teesnthings.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=20 |
| 14:59.12 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 15:00.17 | prpplague | wow |
| 15:00.30 | prpplague | i know he usually just does a quick stop in, but dang |
| 15:01.02 | CosmicPenguin | Maybe he was looking for Tom |
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| 15:01.23 | CosmicPenguin | ahh, now we're screwed |
| 15:01.24 | CosmicPenguin | I mean... |
| 15:01.26 | CosmicPenguin | hey! |
| 15:01.41 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:01.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, my mom just bought a laptop with one of those crappy AMD Turion's so..... |
| 15:01.44 | sorphin | lol |
| 15:01.51 | CosmicPenguin | sucks to be her |
| 15:02.22 | chouimat | prpplague: or this one: http://www.surrendermartha.com/pteyobotosts.html |
| 15:02.26 | sorphin | kinda a waste realy, becuase it's a 64bit cpu running a 32bit os |
| 15:02.27 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:02.33 | prpplague | sorphin: could be worse, she could have something with a geode, hehe |
| 15:02.46 | CosmicPenguin | hey now |
| 15:03.03 | sorphin | prpplague: geode schmeode |
| 15:03.03 | CosmicPenguin | judging by the OLPC wiki - the Geode is set to be the best selling processor evah! |
| 15:03.04 | prpplague | chouimat: good one |
| 15:03.19 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: well, any AMD64 is a waste running Windows |
| 15:03.29 | CosmicPenguin | thats a price that we have to pay for AMD refusing to kiss Bill's ass |
| 15:03.46 | sorphin | prpplague: Geodes are nice rocks with shineys in them, but as CPUS... eh.. |
| 15:04.22 | CosmicPenguin | the Geode will rule you all - just wait until our next processor is released... |
| 15:04.24 | CosmicPenguin | oh, wait |
| 15:04.35 | sorphin | what next processor? :P |
| 15:04.36 | sorphin | lol |
| 15:04.44 | chouimat | hi sorphin |
| 15:04.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 15:04.52 | CosmicPenguin | Coming soon to a store near you - ATI Geode |
| 15:04.53 | sorphin | chouimat: bonjour mat |
| 15:05.04 | CosmicPenguin | AMD likes to combine their failed purchases together |
| 15:05.09 | CosmicPenguin | Spansion Alchemy |
| 15:05.11 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:05.12 | CosmicPenguin | you know - stuff like that |
| 15:05.15 | sorphin | now now |
| 15:05.21 | sorphin | the Alchemy is neat though |
| 15:05.25 | CosmicPenguin | Oh yeah |
| 15:05.57 | CosmicPenguin | It was just brought low by the curse of AMD - every company we have ever purchases has gone to the toilet |
| 15:06.06 | sorphin | anyone seen sjMIPS around? i've emailed him several times since he got back from OLS and then went on vacation, last i talked to him was when he went on vacation... |
| 15:06.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yeah |
| 15:06.22 | CosmicPenguin | he just poped in for like 5 seconds |
| 15:06.37 | CosmicPenguin | He has been about |
| 15:06.46 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:07.15 | sorphin | interesting |
| 15:07.43 | prpplague | i know he's working on some ppc board at the momment |
| 15:07.46 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:07.52 | CosmicPenguin | struggling with it |
| 15:08.18 | prpplague | he every get the serial console working? |
| 15:08.21 | sorphin | well, either he's blocking gmail now, ignoring me, too busy, or realitydiluted is broke or some combination |
| 15:09.10 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:09.44 | sorphin | heh |
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| 15:09.54 | prpplague | poof |
| 15:09.54 | sorphin | sjhill: heh |
| 15:09.58 | CosmicPenguin | speakth of the devil |
| 15:10.34 | sorphin | prpplague: you'd have to irradicate yourself too, dave |
| 15:10.41 | sorphin | you are a plague after all |
| 15:10.59 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:11.36 | prpplague | hehe, i wonder if i would enjoy playing d-n-d now as much as i did when i was a teenager |
| 15:12.05 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:12.34 | sorphin | prpplague: not unless you were playing against an ARM :P |
| 15:13.09 | prpplague | sorphin: hehe |
| 15:15.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i made a wiki page for the M5900 |
| 15:15.52 | CosmicPenguin | heh good |
| 15:16.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm worried about one of handhelds that will be coming out soon though |
| 15:16.11 | chouimat | is this a good hard drive? http://tinyurl.com/bpvo3 |
| 15:16.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: all the hardware and OS are good, but management is unclear as to the UI and goals they want to accomplish :( |
| 15:16.59 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, i love those, they make great drink coasters |
| 15:17.19 | prpplague | chouimat: oh and they also work well for throwing at monkeys in the back yard |
| 15:17.59 | chouimat | prpplague: I see ... I can get it for 154CAD (about 135 usd) and I need a new hard drive for my laptop |
| 15:19.04 | sorphin | prpplague: so do bottles of guinness,since they sure as hell aren't drinkable.. lol |
| 15:19.11 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:21.34 | sorphin | well, i should have my car back before week's end |
| 15:21.50 | sorphin | then i get to be paranoid for atleast a month till i can get the stoneguard put back on |
| 15:22.05 | prpplague | sorphin: stone guard? |
| 15:22.26 | sorphin | clear film put over parts of the front of the car, that protect from rock chips |
| 15:22.31 | prpplague | ahh |
| 15:22.41 | sorphin | also known as a 'clear bra' |
| 15:22.56 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:23.06 | CosmicPenguin | do they have rocks in Barbados? |
| 15:23.08 | sorphin | prpplague: i wouldn't spend it either on a tiburon |
| 15:23.11 | sorphin | :P |
| 15:23.19 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: nah, all htey have is monkeys |
| 15:23.30 | sorphin | and barrels of rum |
| 15:23.30 | CosmicPenguin | and trees |
| 15:23.34 | CosmicPenguin | lots and lots of trees |
| 15:23.53 | sorphin | and some plague dude, who's obsessed with his ARMs |
| 15:23.55 | sorphin | ;) |
| 15:24.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, yea lots of them |
| 15:24.12 | CosmicPenguin | he's doing better then the rest of us |
| 15:24.25 | sorphin | uh |
| 15:24.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm just not a car person |
| 15:25.13 | sorphin | anyways |
| 15:25.20 | sorphin | be nice to get it back |
| 15:25.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that tiburon is the only car i every purchased new, and the only reason i did was because my ex-wife |
| 15:25.38 | sorphin | i'd never buy a used car again |
| 15:25.46 | prpplague | hehe funny |
| 15:28.12 | prpplague | its amazing how you can get such a wide range of opinions on topics like cars |
| 15:28.43 | sjhill | prpplague: yup, i did that too...purchased new car before the divorce |
| 15:29.08 | prpplague | sjhill: hehe, and i got stuck with the car i didn't want, and paying for it |
| 15:29.49 | prpplague | you guys celebrate your birthdays and those of your family members? |
| 15:30.37 | sjhill | yes |
| 15:30.41 | CosmicPenguin | if it invoves booze, I celebrate the birthdays of complete strangers tooo |
| 15:30.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:31.25 | prpplague | hehe, neither my mothers side of the family , nor my fathers celebrate birthdays |
| 15:32.36 | sorphin | i try and forget my birthday |
| 15:32.43 | sorphin | neither my mother nor missy will let me |
| 15:33.28 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, donna's family is almost OCD about their birthdays |
| 15:44.31 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 15:44.57 | sorphin | look ,we know you're a ho, but you don't have to hum |
| 15:45.00 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:45.43 | prpplague | ho ho whistle |
| 15:45.52 | prpplague | whistle while you work |
| 15:46.27 | sorphin | wait.. you work? |
| 15:46.57 | prpplague | yep |
| 15:47.13 | prpplague | or atleast i get paid to |
| 15:48.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how is your OLPC going? |
| 15:48.39 | agaffney | sorphin: bah, I got screwed this morning by a fun car fire on 270 south just after Dorsett |
| 15:49.49 | prpplague | agaffney: hehe ever been to "ted drewes" ? |
| 15:50.14 | agaffney | no, but I really should |
| 15:50.20 | agaffney | there aren't any locations in my county |
| 15:50.24 | prpplague | agaffney: you are in the st.louis area? |
| 15:50.43 | agaffney | yes |
| 15:50.49 | agaffney | near sorphin |
| 15:50.50 | prpplague | agaffney: ah ok i thought so |
| 15:50.50 | CosmicPenguin | OLPC is going OK - we're switching to LinuxBIOS this weel |
| 15:50.52 | CosmicPenguin | week even |
| 15:51.06 | prpplague | agaffney: i wouldn't advertise that fact, "near sorphin" |
| 15:51.22 | sorphin | prpplague: listen here TX lackey |
| 15:51.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i noticed that there are some folks on the linux-hacker.net site doing some PIC hacking |
| 15:51.45 | sorphin | which is something i wouldn't advertise either ;) |
| 15:51.52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: oh? heh |
| 15:52.01 | CosmicPenguin | have they figured out the secret to the BIOS yet? |
| 15:52.04 | sorphin | prpplague: been to ted drewes once.. Fritz's is better |
| 15:52.12 | CosmicPenguin | There are literally piles and piles of PICs laying about the office |
| 15:52.23 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, i'm aware of peoples attitude towards tx these days, but i'm still proud of the fact i'm from texas |
| 15:52.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh, send em out.. lol |
| 15:52.25 | agaffney | I haven't been to Fritz's in a *long* time |
| 15:52.32 | sorphin | agaffney: we go weekly |
| 15:52.36 | agaffney | the one on Mid Rivers Mall Dr. closed a while ago |
| 15:52.39 | agaffney | I think |
| 15:52.48 | agaffney | err, no, it was Hwy. K in O'fallon |
| 15:52.51 | prpplague | i saw that about ted's on alton browns "feasting on asphalt" the other day |
| 15:52.58 | sorphin | ah |
| 15:53.11 | sorphin | agaffney: we do to the one off jungerman? |
| 15:53.12 | agaffney | yeah, I heard that some show was showcasing St. Louis food |
| 15:53.26 | CosmicPenguin | it was a short episode |
| 15:53.28 | agaffney | there's one on Jungermann? |
| 15:53.29 | CosmicPenguin | bam! |
| 15:53.34 | prpplague | ha |
| 15:53.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: did you watch it this past weekend? |
| 15:53.55 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 15:54.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i laugh till i cried it was so funny |
| 15:54.07 | CosmicPenguin | no - I'm not a huge Alton Brown fan |
| 15:54.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: interesting |
| 15:54.22 | CosmicPenguin | I watch Bobby Flay's throwdown |
| 15:54.29 | prpplague | ahh |
| 15:54.32 | CosmicPenguin | and Unwrapped - even though they need new episodes at this point |
| 15:54.45 | sorphin | seen flay's thing once |
| 15:54.49 | sorphin | don't realy like him though |
| 15:54.55 | CosmicPenguin | On weekends I like to watch Every Day Italian and Barfoot Contessa |
| 15:54.58 | sorphin | i like unwrapped and rachel ray's stuff |
| 15:55.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ugh, barefoot contessa? i find that really hard to watch |
| 15:55.21 | sorphin | course, that could be because i like rachel ray thouh :P |
| 15:55.38 | CosmicPenguin | She usually does frenchy stuff, but every once in a while she does something tasty |
| 15:55.46 | CosmicPenguin | we use her pizza recipe |
| 15:56.11 | CosmicPenguin | Rachael Ray is good though - nice to look at |
| 15:56.29 | CosmicPenguin | We have one of her cookbooks - hardly ever disappoints |
| 15:56.54 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: indeed |
| 15:56.59 | CosmicPenguin | Giada on Everyday Italian isn't bad on the eyes either |
| 15:57.25 | prpplague | hehe yea, i like rachel ray and kylie wong |
| 15:57.33 | sorphin | agaffney: barely heard about the car fire |
| 15:57.41 | CosmicPenguin | Kylie Wong? What show does she do? |
| 15:57.48 | prpplague | is it just me, or does kylie seem a little dykish? |
| 15:58.30 | agaffney | sorphin: I was about a quarter mile from it at a dead stop on the highway for 45 minutes |
| 15:58.49 | agaffney | they eventually had people going backwards down the onramp from Dorsett |
| 15:59.12 | sorphin | prpplague: i think you're the only one who knows who that is dude |
| 15:59.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think her show is called "simply magic" |
| 15:59.29 | sorphin | i like sara's secrets |
| 15:59.32 | sorphin | she's cute too |
| 15:59.39 | prpplague | sorphin: she's on foodtv all the time |
| 15:59.47 | sorphin | just my opinion though |
| 16:00.05 | sorphin | prpplague: well, i only turn on food network if there's somethign on i know i want to watch ;) |
| 16:00.12 | prpplague | http://www.foodtv.ca/ontv/titledetails.aspx?titleid=97054 |
| 16:01.14 | prpplague | ahh yep |
| 16:02.10 | jbevren | mm deep fried prawns |
| 16:02.17 | sorphin | jbevren: yawn |
| 16:02.27 | jbevren | sorphin: shaddup, I'm working hard on slacking |
| 16:02.34 | sorphin | jbeven: then get on it |
| 16:02.40 | prpplague | i'm surprised, i figured more geeks/nerds would like "good eats" |
| 16:02.47 | jbevren | I cant with you talking to me |
| 16:02.53 | jbevren | prpplague: I enjoy his show |
| 16:02.57 | jbevren | my sister doesnt lik ehim |
| 16:03.04 | sorphin | prpplague: we're too busy checking out rachael ray and sara moulton ;) |
| 16:03.05 | jbevren | his road show can be cancelled as far as I care |
| 16:03.17 | jbevren | sorphin: rachel needs to close her mouth for 5 seconds |
| 16:03.26 | prpplague | jbevren: well it was only 6 episodes |
| 16:03.31 | jbevren | prpplague: nod |
| 16:03.33 | sorphin | jbevren: hehe, i'm sure she does at some point ;) |
| 16:03.34 | prpplague | jbevren: you didn't like it? |
| 16:03.38 | jbevren | thank god. That was his most useless show |
| 16:03.40 | jbevren | :) |
| 16:04.04 | sorphin | i used to watch the original iron chef |
| 16:04.07 | jbevren | nod |
| 16:04.10 | sorphin | i wont' watch that american version |
| 16:06.40 | prpplague | jbevren: you see the "good eats" special edition where he was supposed to be on a deserted island? |
| 16:06.54 | jbevren | I did |
| 16:07.07 | jbevren | I enjoyed his Steven King ripoffs |
| 16:07.12 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:07.22 | jbevren | brb |
| 16:07.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:09.29 | prpplague | jbevren: why don't you have a wiki home page for your nick? |
| 16:10.08 | prpplague | wheeee, rain |
| 16:21.50 | jbevren | prpplague: Um, cause I'm privacy paranoid (and I dislike dealing with people in general) :) |
| 16:23.50 | agaffney | people-- |
| 16:24.07 | jbevren | Smart(TM) people++ |
| 16:24.26 | agaffney | yes |
| 16:24.30 | agaffney | it's the stupid people I hate |
| 16:24.34 | agaffney | and there are *so* many of them |
| 16:24.52 | jbevren | Trust me |
| 16:24.55 | jbevren | I work in tech support |
| 16:24.56 | jbevren | I know |
| 16:25.14 | agaffney | heh |
| 16:25.28 | agaffney | Trust me. I live near a Walmart. I know |
| 16:25.42 | jbevren | Help! I dont know why I cant send mail to my (mispelled) email address! |
| 16:25.48 | jbevren | hokt on fonix! |
| 16:25.52 | agaffney | heh |
| 16:26.16 | agaffney | I've got woman here at work who mash the mouse buttons when they move the mouse |
| 16:26.23 | agaffney | and then call when all sorts of weird stuff pops up |
| 16:26.44 | jbevren | put lifter springs under their mouse buttons |
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| 17:33.25 | prpplague | hmm |
| 17:33.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok so, top 3 reasons a lcd panel would randomly get a 4-5 pixel shift to the right when changing vt's ? |
| 17:34.29 | CosmicPenguin | I thought it was the timing? |
| 17:35.07 | prpplague | doesn't appear so |
| 17:43.03 | jbevren | console driver bug? |
| 17:43.41 | chouimat | prpplague: http://greatfunplace.blogspot.com/2006/08/belgrades-car-show-2006.html |
| 17:44.42 | prpplague | jbevren: i don't think so |
| 17:44.50 | prpplague | chouimat: wow she's tall |
| 17:45.07 | prpplague | jbevren: more likely something in the fb driver |
| 17:45.23 | prpplague | jbevren: but what i can't figure is why its showing up on vt changes |
| 17:45.41 | chouimat | prpplague: I would like to see the picture the guy took :) |
| 17:45.43 | prpplague | a chvt command shouldn't really touch the fb driver |
| 17:45.59 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:46.04 | CosmicPenguin | it will try to reset the mode every chvt |
| 17:46.12 | jbevren | prpplague: actually, thats what I meant |
| 17:46.29 | jbevren | doesnt fb track screen dimensions per vt? |
| 17:46.35 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 17:46.41 | CosmicPenguin | set_var gets called for each vt |
| 17:46.47 | jbevren | I know you can (with my matrox) set a consoel to 640x480 and another to 1024x768 |
| 17:47.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i'm not seeing it try to reset the mode |
| 17:47.07 | jbevren | so I'm guessing it does a resolution change (if even to the same resolution) for each switch |
| 17:47.28 | jbevren | prpplague: Check the lcdc registers before/after glitch |
| 17:48.07 | prpplague | jbevren: thats just it, i can't replicate the problem, its very very very random |
| 17:48.17 | CosmicPenguin | you should see check_var being called every time |
| 17:48.32 | CosmicPenguin | Do you have a race condition? |
| 17:48.39 | jbevren | prpplague: I assume you have it on jtag.. |
| 17:48.47 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 17:48.47 | jbevren | just capture the register settings and wait for it to repeat |
| 17:48.49 | CosmicPenguin | some sort of global state? |
| 17:49.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm odd, i don't see it calling check_var when doing a chvt |
| 17:49.05 | jbevren | after it repeats (god knows when), you'll know what register gets changed, and will have something more specific to look for |
| 17:49.49 | prpplague | jbevren: hehe, let me emphasis again, i've not been able to replicate the problem, i'm only going on 2nd hand reports |
| 17:49.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hmmm... that mioght be part of your problem |
| 17:50.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so everytime a vt change request is made check_var should be called? |
| 17:51.05 | CosmicPenguin | it changes the mode every time |
| 17:51.18 | CosmicPenguin | it should be calling check_var, I think to ensure that the var is correct |
| 17:51.35 | CosmicPenguin | but maybe it just sets the mode directly |
| 17:51.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: isn't that counter productive when using a lcd when those settings would not change? |
| 17:51.56 | CosmicPenguin | probably - but the kernel doesn't know its running on a LCD |
| 17:52.02 | CosmicPenguin | how does the kernel know the settings would not change? |
| 17:53.22 | prpplague | hmm |
| 17:55.46 | prpplague | yea i'm not seeing check_var being called when doing vt changes |
| 17:56.30 | prpplague | odd |
| 17:59.20 | prpplague | hmm, the only time i see check var being called is during init of the lcd |
| 17:59.32 | prpplague | and there its called in the actual startup code |
| 18:00.00 | CosmicPenguin | yep - definatley calls fb_set_var |
| 18:00.09 | CosmicPenguin | fbcon_switch |
| 18:00.11 | CosmicPenguin | :q |
| 18:00.48 | prpplague | hmm |
| 18:00.55 | prpplague | so why isn't mine getting called |
| 18:00.59 | CosmicPenguin | set_par and set cmap is called |
| 18:04.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its probably whats causing the problem, just we never saw it because the lcd params never change |
| 18:04.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: or shouldn't |
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| 18:07.43 | prpplague | man my head hurts, i can't troubleshoot with a headache |
| 18:08.16 | prpplague | just wish i could replicate the issue |
| 18:08.18 | prpplague | that would help |
| 18:08.41 | prpplague | but we've only seen it happen about 10 times in the last 30 days |
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| 18:10.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, i'm definetly not seeing the chvt command hit anything in the lcd driver |
| 18:15.40 | prpplague | mmm, cough syrup and coffeee |
| 18:15.43 | prpplague | nice mix |
| 18:17.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, the fbcon_switch is definetly call the fb_set_var, but it doesn't to be doing anything |
| 18:17.51 | prpplague | weird |
| 18:22.52 | prpplague | interesting |
| 18:23.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the s3c2410 fb driver doesn't have a fb_set_var |
| 18:25.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: neither does the pxa driver |
| 18:26.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: from what i'm seeing, looks like thats only called with vga consoles |
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| 18:44.46 | sorphin | went to the body shop over lunch |
| 18:44.53 | sorphin | looks like wednesday is the day |
| 18:45.29 | jbevren | nice |
| 18:45.33 | jbevren | finally getting the wheels back |
| 18:45.41 | sorphin | and the rest of the car too ;) |
| 18:45.42 | sorphin | hehe |
| 18:45.50 | sorphin | paint all matches too |
| 18:56.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: fb_set_var lives in fbmem.c |
| 18:57.12 | prpplague | sorphin: yea looks like they did a good job on your vehicle - http://www.blogblogblog.com/2002_misc/blogimg/11-12-02-pwagon.html |
| 18:57.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 18:58.35 | jbevren | sorphin: is that you in the chair getting wheeled to the car? |
| 18:59.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: all the standard vga devices have their own fb_set_var |
| 19:01.53 | sorphin | um |
| 19:02.06 | sorphin | i'm not gonna even look at the url |
| 19:02.23 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:03.44 | sorphin | prpplague: ok, so i looked anyways.. that car looks more like it's driven BY one :P |
| 19:04.06 | prpplague | like i said, you vehicle :P |
| 19:04.13 | prpplague | s/you/your |
| 19:04.45 | sorphin | and you drive what again there dave? |
| 19:05.17 | sorphin | oh yeah, ox drawn cart |
| 19:05.18 | sorphin | forgot |
| 19:05.23 | prpplague | sorphin: land rover suv |
| 19:05.36 | sorphin | Ford POS ;) |
| 19:06.02 | prpplague | gets me from point A to point B with no problems |
| 19:06.14 | prpplague | and i don't have to make any month payments on it |
| 19:06.22 | sorphin | well, i can't imagine that it takes long to get from point A to B in barbados anyways |
| 19:06.54 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, well , about the longest drive is about 2 hours from the airport to st.lucy |
| 19:07.14 | prpplague | sorphin: 60kph is the max speed |
| 19:07.36 | prpplague | sorphin: with most roads only about 30kph |
| 19:08.20 | prpplague | hopefully, we'll be back in the states by the end of the year anyway |
| 19:08.41 | sorphin | god help us |
| 19:08.51 | sorphin | prpplague: you just gave me more incentive to leave the country ;) |
| 19:09.43 | prpplague | sorphin: you are particularly harsh on me as of late, did i do something to offend you and you're holding a grudge? |
| 19:10.27 | sorphin | prpplague: you picked on me earlier, just returning the favor :P |
| 19:10.54 | sorphin | oh wait, sorry, that was that Geode Flunky |
| 19:11.00 | sorphin | nevermind |
| 19:11.55 | sorphin | prpplague: the leave country bit was a joke anyways, i have plenty of other motivations to not stay in the US, you're not one of them |
| 19:13.08 | prpplague | sorphin: i suggest you try living overseas first for 90 days before making anything permanent |
| 19:13.52 | prpplague | sorphin: btw, even if you give up US citizenship, the IRS now requires all ex-citizens to report their income |
| 19:14.04 | prpplague | sorphin: don't have to pay taxes, but you have to report the income |
| 19:16.43 | sorphin | lol |
| 19:16.56 | sorphin | or what? |
| 19:16.57 | jbevren | zzz |
| 19:17.05 | jbevren | hah |
| 19:17.05 | sorphin | if i leave the US and give up citizen ship, the IRS can kiss my ass |
| 19:17.18 | jbevren | if I'm not a US citizen, I wont pay taxes to the US |
| 19:17.31 | sorphin | it's no longer their business what my income is if i don't live in the US anymore |
| 19:18.10 | prpplague | hehe, yea i don't see how they can enforce it but thats the law |
| 19:18.40 | jbevren | We wont help you, and we cant enforce our laws upon you, but pay us taxes or else. |
| 19:18.44 | sorphin | and just how would i even be subject to US law? |
| 19:18.45 | sorphin | lol |
| 19:18.55 | sorphin | morons |
| 19:19.03 | prpplague | jbevren: you don't have to pay any taxes, but you have to report your income |
| 19:19.10 | sorphin | what's the point of that? |
| 19:19.17 | jbevren | prpplague: Ah. |
| 19:19.18 | jbevren | well |
| 19:19.20 | jbevren | I made $0 this year |
| 19:19.22 | jbevren | can I get EIC? |
| 19:19.28 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:19.38 | sorphin | prpplague: i dont' see the point really |
| 19:19.46 | prpplague | sorphin: me either |
| 19:20.42 | prpplague | hehe, and since bill clinton signed a tax law where people who live overseas for more than 330 days continuously, you get taxed at a higher rate because you are taking money out of the US economy and not returning any |
| 19:21.51 | jbevren | hm |
| 19:21.57 | jbevren | so visit texas twice yearly? |
| 19:22.10 | prpplague | jbevren: doesn't work that way |
| 19:22.19 | prpplague | jbevren: you have a have a residence |
| 19:22.31 | jbevren | oh.. rent a room from Mom for $5/month? |
| 19:22.37 | sorphin | lol |
| 19:22.40 | jbevren | dead: I believe so yes |
| 19:22.44 | jbevren | erp |
| 19:22.51 | sorphin | wrong channel? |
| 19:22.52 | sorphin | lol |
| 19:22.54 | jbevren | yeah |
| 19:23.05 | jbevren | we're discussing AMIX and how it would have changed the PC and workstation market if it were properly marketed |
| 19:23.07 | sorphin | alive: I don't believe so no |
| 19:23.07 | prpplague | jbevren: be a real pain in the ass to change your address every 6 months |
| 19:25.16 | sorphin | prpplague: PO Box 666, Plagueville, TX..... |
| 19:25.17 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:25.28 | prpplague | yep |
| 19:26.26 | prpplague | i added up the other day, so far, i've spent almost $10,000USD in fee and expenses for my wife's visa |
| 19:26.52 | sorphin | prpplague: almost as much as a russian bride |
| 19:26.53 | sorphin | lol |
| 19:26.54 | prpplague | not to mention missed days of work, travel expenses, or things like copies of documents |
| 19:27.18 | prpplague | sorphin: even if you got a russian bride, you'd still have to go through the same process |
| 19:27.23 | sorphin | right |
| 19:27.29 | sorphin | that's why they cost that much |
| 19:27.31 | sorphin | lol |
| 19:28.00 | prpplague | sorphin: $1 for the bride, and $9,999 for the fee's ? |
| 19:29.31 | sorphin | lol |
| 19:29.38 | sorphin | probably |
| 19:30.17 | prpplague | http://www.visajourney.com |
| 19:30.23 | prpplague | should read some of the horror stories there |
| 19:31.42 | sorphin | i've seen some before |
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| 19:40.48 | Genesis | hello |
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| 20:07.53 | Genesis | bonap chouimat|nap |
| 20:08.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 20:08.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: think i found it |
| 20:08.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its a hardware issue |
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| 20:41.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: burried in an app note - " Known Problem of STN LCD : If Enable and Disable Video output, [ENVID] of LCDCON1 Register, it is repeated over 100times,there could be 1Word data loss in case of STN. But the probability of this symptom is very low." |
| 21:30.56 | jbevren | apparently prpplague lost a data word |
| 21:42.27 | jbevren | hmm so a workaround would be to reset the lcd controller on vt switch? |
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| 22:02.30 | Genesis | bonne nuit |
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| 22:19.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh - yeah, that would do it |
| 22:20.21 | CosmicPenguin | because wasn't blanking one of the symptoms? |
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| 22:27.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: naw, no blanking just shifting of the data |
| 22:28.07 | CosmicPenguin | right - but didn't you say blanking preceeded the issue? |
| 22:28.18 | CosmicPenguin | blanking would frob enable and disable video alot |
| 22:28.21 | CosmicPenguin | so would vt switching |
| 22:28.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh yea, we suspend the system after 1 minute |
| 22:28.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so yea |
| 22:29.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sorry my brain is toast |
| 22:29.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i have a horrible sinus headache |
| 22:32.50 | T0mW | prpplague: sounds like you are improving! This morning it was your stomach |
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| 22:56.38 | T0mW | prpplague: question |
| 22:58.15 | T0mW | prpplague: when you do a "request_irq", that call is supposed to do the entire setup for use of an interrupt, ok (afaik). The third parm is the trigger state, if I want to specify a specfic trigger, would it be something like "SA_INTERRUPT_TRIGGER | <my state>" ? |
| 23:04.49 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so, how are you going to fix the thing? |
| 23:20.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i checked some code posted for an lcd example from samsung |
| 23:20.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks like if you enable/disable rapidly 5 times is a row it clears the issue |
| 23:21.05 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.13 | CosmicPenguin | any way to avoid it in the first place? |
| 23:21.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks like it is a silicon problem |
| 23:21.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got a email off to samsung earlier |
| 23:22.05 | prpplague | T0mW: thats sounds about right, but my headache is turning into a migrain and i can't think straight, sorry |
| 23:22.23 | T0mW | prpplague: later |
