| 00:05.34 | prpplague | sorphin: holy cow |
| 00:05.38 | prpplague | sorphin: lots of chips |
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| 00:45.20 | prpplague | T0mW: hey |
| 00:45.46 | prpplague | T0mW: explain to me the difference between a via diameter and the drill size |
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| 01:20.17 | T0mW | prpplague: diameter is the pad, drill is the hole |
| 01:20.43 | prpplague | T0mW: ok thats what i thought |
| 01:21.03 | prpplague | T0mW: but i'm confused as to min values for standard boards |
| 01:21.20 | T0mW | prpplague: usually, you need 5mil between the edge of the hole and the outside edge of the pad. |
| 01:21.30 | prpplague | T0mW: 4pcb.com says " Minimum finished hole size .010" |
| 01:22.05 | T0mW | prpplague: the drill accuracy is usually +/- 2mil, so, with 5mil, you are sure that they will drill somewhere inside the pad area |
| 01:22.22 | T0mW | prpplague: finish hole is something else |
| 01:22.55 | prpplague | T0mW: ok so if i used the .01" hole, i'd need a diameter of atleast 15mil |
| 01:23.09 | prpplague | T0mW: ok |
| 01:23.14 | prpplague | T0mW: whats the difference? |
| 01:23.28 | T0mW | prpplague: if you have a 1/2 ounce (0.5mil) copper on the PCB, your hole will shrink by 1mil (two 0.5mil copper surfaces inside the hole). |
| 01:24.00 | prpplague | ahh |
| 01:24.03 | T0mW | if you have 1oz copper (1mil), then your hole will shrink (finish) 2mil smaller than what is was drilled. |
| 01:24.29 | prpplague | so much to learn |
| 01:24.36 | T0mW | so, you specify hole sizes either as "finsihed" or "unfinished". |
| 01:25.11 | prpplague | ok so finish is plated from one side to the other? |
| 01:25.36 | T0mW | If you say a "10mil finished hole" at 1/2oz copper, then they will drill an 11mil hole, then plate it with 1/2oz copper (0.5mil) |
| 01:26.14 | prpplague | ahh |
| 01:26.25 | T0mW | I don't go below 16mil unfinished |
| 01:26.35 | T0mW | $$$ < 16mil |
| 01:27.12 | T0mW | you can go down to a 2mil trace and a 5mil spacing with an 8mil hole... But, you will pay dearly for it. |
| 01:27.45 | prpplague | ok so if i go with a 16mil drill i need to have around 21 mill pad size, right? |
| 01:28.35 | T0mW | yeah |
| 01:28.52 | T0mW | usually I use "auto" for the pad diameter. |
| 01:28.57 | prpplague | so why does eagle have such screwy number for drill size? |
| 01:29.17 | prpplague | and what just set the drill size? |
| 01:30.01 | T0mW | prpplague: metric |
| 01:30.08 | prpplague | ahh |
| 01:30.20 | T0mW | it is a German package |
| 01:30.24 | prpplague | T0mW: so just set the drill size to 16 mills? |
| 01:30.36 | T0mW | prpplague: on the vias? |
| 01:31.11 | prpplague | T0mW: well, for both vias and thru hole pads |
| 01:31.22 | T0mW | btw, that 16mil @ 21Pad, NO, it would be 16mil hole @ 26pad |
| 01:31.40 | prpplague | auto is actuall setting it to 32 |
| 01:32.08 | T0mW | prpplague: through hole pads are relative to the part that will fit into that hole, you will not get a resistor lead into a 16mil hole |
| 01:32.38 | prpplague | T0mW: yea, not really interested in actually getting something thru it |
| 01:33.25 | prpplague | T0mW: what i'm tinkering with is a small pcb that i can place in a tsop package and solder into place |
| 01:33.30 | prpplague | T0mW: just experimenting |
| 01:34.01 | T0mW | nod |
| 01:34.04 | prpplague | T0mW: why is it a 26 pad instead of 21? |
| 01:34.17 | T0mW | 5mil minimum annular ring |
| 01:34.27 | T0mW | 16 + 5 + 5 == 26 |
| 01:34.33 | prpplague | ahhhh |
| 01:34.57 | MonMotha | yeah, don't want to go below 5 mil annular ring without talking to the fab house |
| 01:35.05 | MonMotha | they have to get their drill tolerances pretty tight to go any lower |
| 01:35.06 | T0mW | heh |
| 01:35.29 | MonMotha | holes which are not electrically connected are an exception, of course |
| 01:35.39 | T0mW | if you want it tight, they can do it with thier laser... |
| 01:35.48 | MonMotha | just watch your space to the hole, then, since the same rules apply |
| 01:36.09 | MonMotha | stay at least 5mil+min trace/trace from the hole |
| 01:36.27 | prpplague | T0mW: if i use a thru hole pad, whats the possibility of layout that down on a tsop package pads and putting solder on each pad |
| 01:36.31 | prpplague | T0mW: ?? |
| 01:36.38 | MonMotha | heh, I'm always AMAZED at the capabilities some of these board fab houses have, but my god they're expensive |
| 01:36.55 | MonMotha | 2 mil trace/space, 4-5 mil drills with 2 or 3 mil annular rings |
| 01:37.06 | T0mW | prpplague: say that again, it didn't make sense |
| 01:37.09 | MonMotha | that's for those of you who need to back/back a couple BGAs and still get the vias in :) |
| 01:37.29 | prpplague | T0mW: ok, picture this |
| 01:37.42 | prpplague | T0mW: a small pcb, the same size as a tsop package |
| 01:38.00 | prpplague | T0mW: the pcb has thru hole pads matching the pads for the tsop package |
| 01:38.11 | T0mW | good luck |
| 01:38.13 | T0mW | heh |
| 01:38.18 | prpplague | T0mW: why? |
| 01:38.29 | MonMotha | you mean something like a SO to DIP adapter? |
| 01:38.36 | MonMotha | but for TSOP and without the DIP spacing on the through-hole part |
| 01:38.43 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:38.47 | T0mW | well, the tsop stuff I work with is a 25mil lead center |
| 01:38.47 | MonMotha | good luck... |
| 01:39.00 | MonMotha | that's awfully small to get drills big enough for pins |
| 01:39.05 | MonMotha | and what are you going to plug it in to? |
| 01:39.23 | MonMotha | or are you wanting to take it out to .1" spacing (DIP size)? |
| 01:39.52 | prpplague | MonMotha: no, basically what i want to do is change the pad configuration |
| 01:40.04 | prpplague | MonMotha: most of the small sdrams have different pinouts |
| 01:40.09 | prpplague | MonMotha: than the larger ones |
| 01:40.38 | prpplague | MonMotha: same lines just different pinouts |
| 01:41.00 | T0mW | prpplague: so, what do you want to do? Build an adapter board? |
| 01:41.19 | prpplague | T0mW: yea basically |
| 01:41.53 | T0mW | prpplague: and, then,... how are you planning to use it? |
| 01:42.18 | T0mW | wire it to the main board via 30ga wire? |
| 01:42.44 | prpplague | T0mW: remove the old chip from the board, place this new pcb instead, , do a little solder on each thru hole pad , and your done |
| 01:43.11 | T0mW | prpplague: oh, so you want to surface mount the board onto the other one? |
| 01:43.11 | MonMotha | oh... |
| 01:43.18 | MonMotha | that'll be a challenge, but it's doable |
| 01:43.22 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:43.25 | T0mW | maybe |
| 01:43.31 | MonMotha | as long as the part you're adapting from is physically smaller than what you're going to |
| 01:43.44 | MonMotha | if it's the same size, you won't be able to do it on a 2 layer board |
| 01:44.03 | MonMotha | except in certain cases where you don't have to cross anything |
| 01:44.11 | prpplague | MonMotha: yea, what i had planned is a T shaped pcb |
| 01:44.29 | T0mW | I don't think it'd work |
| 01:44.44 | prpplague | T0mW: whys that? |
| 01:44.56 | T0mW | you'd have to get the solder to wick down the holes, #1 |
| 01:44.59 | MonMotha | but you can probably get by without the drills. Just heavily tin the adapter board, put it on the destination which should have over-length pads (so you can heat them) with a little flux and heat until it reflows |
| 01:45.12 | MonMotha | lining it up will be a pain |
| 01:45.26 | T0mW | MonMotha: and if it shorts? |
| 01:45.32 | MonMotha | T0mW: then you throw it out and try again :) |
| 01:45.36 | prpplague | yea, the only reason i was thinking thru hole is to get the connections on both sides |
| 01:45.37 | T0mW | LOL |
| 01:45.44 | MonMotha | hotplate and forceps? |
| 01:45.51 | T0mW | blowtorch |
| 01:45.59 | T0mW | rotfl |
| 01:46.00 | MonMotha | won't be able to do many cycles of that, but you can remove it and try again a few times, at least |
| 01:46.08 | MonMotha | you could also use that for the initial reflow |
| 01:46.16 | MonMotha | basically, you're building a DFN package |
| 01:46.22 | T0mW | you would have to preheat the board |
| 01:46.23 | MonMotha | those are noutoriously hard to hand-solder |
| 01:46.26 | MonMotha | yes, you would |
| 01:47.12 | MonMotha | if you can get the board makers to selectively plate the side of the board (to line up with the pads), things get a little easier since you can use that to heat |
| 01:47.23 | MonMotha | it would be like soldering a surface mount crystal onto the exact size pad |
| 01:47.27 | prpplague | probably what i would do is solder a 30 gauge wire to each pad on the corners, then slip the board over those for alignment |
| 01:47.47 | MonMotha | that would be really hard to do on 25mil (or less) pitch.. |
| 01:48.10 | prpplague | you think? |
| 01:48.18 | T0mW | I still think that you would end up with shorts |
| 01:48.20 | prpplague | i've done that before with noproblems |
| 01:48.40 | prpplague | T0mW: you think just doing 30 gauge wire to the pcb would be better? |
| 01:50.01 | T0mW | 25mil is pretty rough stuff to try to solder wire to. the big problem is that of getting solder in small enough blobs onto the pad |
| 01:50.13 | T0mW | even if you "wet" the wires. |
| 01:50.43 | prpplague | hmm, odd, i need to double check the spacing, because i've not had any trouble with these sdram chip |
| 01:50.48 | prpplague | flash yea, but not sdram |
| 01:50.59 | MonMotha | oh, are these "J-lead" packages? |
| 01:51.05 | MonMotha | they're bigger than what I'm thinking of... |
| 01:51.07 | T0mW | you could do this with 50 mil... |
| 01:51.15 | MonMotha | they're like 35mil or something weird I believe |
| 01:51.29 | MonMotha | bigger than TSSOP |
| 01:52.30 | T0mW | I've got a binocular microscope, myself, I wouldn't attempt to solder wires to those pads. |
| 01:53.08 | MonMotha | yeah, I'm not sure that I could solder wires to a TSSOP footprint, a least not all of the pads, or even more than just 2 that are next to each other |
| 01:53.23 | prpplague | "400-mill 50 pin tsop II" |
| 01:54.29 | T0mW | prpplague: got a url to the package drawing? |
| 01:54.35 | prpplague | looking now |
| 01:56.51 | prpplague | http://www.micron.com/products/partdetail?part=MT48LC16M16A2TG-75 |
| 01:59.34 | prpplague | thats like 31 mills from center pin to center pin |
| 01:59.53 | MonMotha | yeah, 0.8mm |
| 01:59.57 | MonMotha | those are a bit easier than TSSOP |
| 02:00.47 | MonMotha | awesome, my USB to SPI adapter works beautifully |
| 02:00.54 | prpplague | MonMotha: cool |
| 02:01.22 | MonMotha | it's mostly the software. There's a really fancy (Windows only, unfortunately) GUI that goes with it. |
| 02:01.29 | MonMotha | It's made for test-driving parts |
| 02:01.43 | prpplague | nice |
| 02:01.44 | T0mW | you will have a better chance @ 31.5 mil than at 25 |
| 02:01.59 | prpplague | i use the ft2232 for testing my spi stuff from usb |
| 02:02.10 | prpplague | T0mW: yea |
| 02:02.10 | MonMotha | yeah, if you don't need the fancy GUI, there's plenty of other options |
| 02:02.48 | prpplague | thus looks doable, just need to learn some more |
| 02:03.36 | MonMotha | this is hardware SPI, at least. You can clock it up to 4MHz (actual attainable throughput is about 2-3Mbit) |
| 02:06.31 | prpplague | ah |
| 02:09.59 | T0mW | prpplague: I got the job |
| 02:10.05 | prpplague | T0mW: cool deal |
| 02:10.23 | T0mW | $1.5K payout / week |
| 02:10.39 | prpplague | nice |
| 02:10.39 | T0mW | rest on billing |
| 02:10.51 | prpplague | T0mW: make sure you set something back for taxes |
| 02:10.59 | T0mW | 40% |
| 02:11.10 | T0mW | already spoke with my accountant about this |
| 02:12.55 | T0mW | prpplague: now, to get my lawyer to draw up the contract |
| 02:13.52 | prpplague | jeeze i forgot self employment taxes are soooo high |
| 02:16.06 | T0mW | prpplague: I just bought one of these: http://www.littlechips.com/LN2410SBC_TFT.htm |
| 02:40.51 | flyback | holy mother of canuck |
| 02:40.53 | flyback | $1500/week |
| 02:40.54 | flyback | wwo |
| 02:41.11 | flyback | must be nice |
| 02:43.09 | flyback | <flyback> anyone know of a easy way to identify cracked solder joints |
| 02:43.09 | flyback | [22:42] <flyback> if it's not visually obvious |
| 02:43.09 | flyback | [22:43] <flyback> or do I need a microscope ? |
| 02:43.42 | MonMotha | $1500/wk - 40% in taxes makes me sad |
| 02:44.11 | flyback | 40% |
| 02:44.14 | flyback | canada? |
| 02:46.03 | MonMotha | self employment tax can easily creep that high |
| 02:46.10 | MonMotha | it's all of FICA + normal income tax |
| 03:07.13 | jbevren | buy lots of toys for work |
| 03:07.19 | jbevren | deduct them in the spring |
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| 03:08.49 | MonMotha | you can do that, but you have to be somewhat careful |
| 03:09.03 | MonMotha | if you do too much of that, you'll likely get audited and have to show that you really did use said toys for work |
| 03:09.47 | MonMotha | I've known people to get themselves a new projector that way though, for their home office conference room...that they use for 6 months during contract negotiations then turn into a home theater :) |
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| 03:11.08 | DoDoDoDo | Hi: I have a problem using squashfs file system as I can't get access to /dev - can someone give me a hint |
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| 03:41.53 | chouimat|Zzz | night |
| 03:50.44 | jbevren | prpplague: ping |
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| 04:21.39 | flyback | didn't I tell you guys that after all the things that went right this week including reparing my duron 1300 computer that sat for over a year, that something would happen soon cause this is too good to be true? Well I was out driving and the main serpentine belt on my car went "YOU GO TO HELL AND YOU DIE!" *SNAP* and I had to limp it home with no headlights (no alternator = too much battery drain) and no power steering. At least this ti |
| 04:22.41 | flyback | and I just had the damn belt replaced like 1-2 yrs ago, I hope this doesn't mean something lurched such as the ac compressopr |
| 04:24.54 | flyback | then again I guess if the belt snapped let the engine "fart" and prevented something else from breaking, it was a good thing |
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| 12:34.17 | prpplague | i have so much i work i could be doing |
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| 13:52.26 | sorphin | ah goodie, the attack is back again |
| 13:57.35 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: greetings |
| 14:31.35 | CosmicPenguin | nod |
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| 14:43.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hehe, i'm actually helping someone else today use eagle, hehe |
| 14:45.58 | jbevren | prpplague: have you checked compiz and xgl out? |
| 14:46.45 | prpplague | jbevren: no why? |
| 14:46.56 | jbevren | its pretty impressive (in the demo video) |
| 14:47.11 | jbevren | the XGL server uses hardware 3d compositing for all of its windowing work |
| 14:47.28 | jbevren | compiz works with it (of course) to manage the added features of using xgl as the windowing hardware |
| 14:47.39 | jbevren | http://www.linuxedge.org/?q=node/58 |
| 14:47.45 | jbevren | it's desktop stuff, but still pretty cool |
| 14:47.58 | jbevren | its got me pondering switching this workstation to debian/testing |
| 14:47.59 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:48.42 | jbevren | dunno how well xgl will perform managing the three displays though |
| 14:48.45 | jbevren | hehe |
| 14:51.53 | gandhijee | jbrevren: use gentoo for it |
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| 14:59.11 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:59.35 | CosmicPenguin | its not morning - thats a lile and you know it! |
| 15:01.16 | sorphin | jbevren: this time it's coming in from Time Warner mostly |
| 15:01.30 | jbevren | route add twtelecom reject |
| 15:01.31 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:29.44 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:29.49 | sorphin | they closed their ticket |
| 15:29.54 | sorphin | and told me to email abuse@ |
| 15:29.58 | sorphin | for a DoS attack |
| 15:30.00 | sorphin | gotta love it |
| 15:30.02 | sorphin | morons |
| 15:30.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: Running on both cores today? ;) |
| 15:30.38 | CosmicPenguin | apparently |
| 15:30.48 | prpplague | seventh sense the movie, "i see stupid people......" |
| 15:30.49 | CosmicPenguin | I keep getting interrupts on one of the cores, though |
| 15:31.06 | chouimat | man I hate summer ... |
| 15:31.22 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:34.37 | chouimat | prpplague: with cold you can alway add a layer ... but with heat once you're naked what can you remove? |
| 15:35.10 | sorphin | so.... anyone need any 4k refresh 256M EDO ECC Dimms? :) |
| 15:35.11 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:35.36 | chouimat | nope |
| 15:35.39 | sorphin | prpplague: or the Dave Anders version |
| 15:35.43 | sorphin | prpplague: I see ARM |
| 15:35.45 | sorphin | :P |
| 15:43.26 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:44.25 | prpplague | i have so many patches to clean up and submit |
| 15:44.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how do you ever find time to submit patches for your amd platforms? |
| 15:45.35 | CosmicPenguin | thats my job |
| 15:45.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea, well, my problem is, technically its not part of mine |
| 15:46.32 | jbevren | http://frederic.letaconnoux.free.fr/dotclear/index.php?2006/06/26/154-circuit-bent-casio-sk1 |
| 15:46.32 | jbevren | hmm |
| 15:46.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: boss doesn't normally allocate time for patch submissions |
| 15:46.39 | jbevren | wonder what chips that thing uses for ram/rom/cpu |
| 15:46.56 | prpplague | hehe, i was just looking at that |
| 15:47.28 | prpplague | UGH, what a nasty solder job |
| 15:47.38 | jbevren | nobody said he was any good ;) |
| 15:48.59 | prpplague | i'm so homesick for texas this week |
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| 15:56.22 | mbuf | prpplague, we might be acquired by Flextronics |
| 15:57.09 | prpplague | mbuf: is that good news or bad news? |
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| 15:57.56 | mbuf | prpplague, good news; i can try to move to something other than USB; and they are a major electronic manufacturing services company in south-east asia; so its ok |
| 15:58.07 | mbuf | prpplague, unless the work environment is pathetic, i might want to change |
| 15:58.56 | mbuf | prpplague, the gadget driver on s3c2410 works as reported by ragrot, http://www.littlechips.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=130 |
| 15:59.25 | mbuf | prpplague, i am yet to try it, if you have time, try it, i shall also look into it |
| 16:00.04 | prpplague | yea there are some tweaks that still need to be done |
| 16:00.27 | prpplague | mbuf: first of our s3c24xx based devices: http://www.amltd.com/M5900.asp |
| 16:00.34 | prpplague | mbuf: it uses the gadget driver |
| 16:00.46 | mbuf | prpplague, cool |
| 16:04.04 | mbuf | prpplague, just curious, are you hiring by any chance? |
| 16:04.37 | prpplague | hehe, sorry no, we have a full staff at the momment |
| 16:05.07 | mbuf | prpplague, ok |
| 16:06.29 | prpplague | mbuf: besides, i have enough trouble getting my wife a visa to the states, much less an employee |
| 16:08.17 | mbuf | prpplague, ohh |
| 16:11.52 | prpplague | mbuf: the visa stuff for the states is a nightmare these days |
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| 16:12.15 | mbuf | prpplague, i see, good that I came back, home sweet home |
| 16:12.30 | mbuf | prpplague, which is your native place? |
| 16:13.07 | jbevren | <- Iowa |
| 16:13.10 | jbevren | not that you care |
| 16:13.11 | jbevren | hehe |
| 16:18.33 | prpplague | mbuf: native to texas, but my wife is from barbados |
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| 16:18.56 | mbuf | prpplague, ok |
| 16:20.17 | prpplague | mbuf: been working on a visa/greencard for my wife almost 2 years now |
| 16:20.31 | mbuf | prpplague, ohh |
| 16:22.08 | prpplague | its sooooo much fun |
| 16:22.18 | chouimat | prpplague: from a reader of an isreali newspaper after an artice about the fighting: Forgive Hizbollah? Forgiving hizbollah is God's job. The Isreali's job is to arrange the meeting ... |
| 16:23.01 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 16:24.48 | jbevren | wb gandhijee |
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| 16:25.15 | gandhijee | man |
| 16:25.38 | gandhijee | the network at this hotel i am at sucks ass |
| 16:26.05 | gandhijee | the guy that set it up must have read the book, networks for fucking morons |
| 16:26.16 | agaffney | hah |
| 16:26.24 | agaffney | what hotel network doesn't suck? |
| 16:26.39 | gandhijee | this one stucks more than the norm |
| 16:26.53 | gandhijee | these idiots have ALL the AP's on chan 11 |
| 16:27.15 | jbevren | ah, so you end up AP hopping all night? |
| 16:27.23 | agaffney | they may not be wired |
| 16:27.25 | agaffney | except for one |
| 16:27.32 | gandhijee | and they've ran everything back to either a) a shitty switch thats ARP tables are now full and is in hub mode, or b) they ran it to some 10 base hub |
| 16:27.33 | jbevren | repeaters you think? |
| 16:27.34 | agaffney | so wouldn't they all need to be on the same channel? |
| 16:27.39 | gandhijee | nope |
| 16:27.51 | jbevren | repeaters can translate channels |
| 16:28.01 | gandhijee | def not repeaters or extenders |
| 16:28.10 | agaffney | they could just be cheap APs |
| 16:28.15 | agaffney | with no wired connection |
| 16:28.17 | gandhijee | nah, they are shitco |
| 16:28.47 | gandhijee | ultra spacT-2 sounds nice |
| 16:29.46 | jbevren | gandhijee: I want a meso 999 |
| 16:29.49 | jbevren | buy me one? :D |
| 16:30.16 | gandhijee | i wish, i want a sparc laptop too |
| 16:30.35 | agaffney | you mean the servers in a laptop form factor? :P |
| 16:30.37 | jbevren | any laptop that can get 4G of ram and cant run windows is a plus in my book |
| 16:30.44 | agaffney | heh |
| 16:30.44 | jbevren | agaffney: Yep. thats the one |
| 16:30.53 | gandhijee | http://www.rave.com/PRODUCTS/n-flextreme.html |
| 16:31.04 | gandhijee | lol, my company makes the motherboard for that machine |
| 16:31.11 | agaffney | athlon-xp mobile 1.6GHz, 512MB memory, 40GB HD |
| 16:31.16 | agaffney | $400 |
| 16:31.22 | jbevren | that's a luggable heh |
| 16:31.24 | agaffney | and it runs linux great :P |
| 16:31.32 | gandhijee | actually, they can go with 2 dual core processors on it |
| 16:31.45 | gandhijee | so you can do quad core |
| 16:31.45 | mbuf | i want my next laptop to be 10", which one would you guys recommend? I don't want Sony. How is Fujitsu ? |
| 16:31.54 | gandhijee | my HP is pretty nice |
| 16:32.01 | agaffney | my laptop is 12" |
| 16:32.01 | jbevren | I have an (old!) fujitsu b142 |
| 16:32.02 | jbevren | I love it |
| 16:32.02 | agaffney | nice and light |
| 16:32.04 | gandhijee | minus the broadcom WiNIC |
| 16:32.08 | jbevren | 9" screen, touch overlay |
| 16:32.12 | jbevren | 300mhz fanless celeron |
| 16:32.18 | jbevren | 20gig hdd :D |
| 16:32.26 | agaffney | gandhijee: my integrated 802.11 is broadcom |
| 16:32.31 | agaffney | I've got it working with ndiswrapper |
| 16:32.33 | gandhijee | i wanted to get one of the transmeta based laptop |
| 16:32.36 | jbevren | mine's intel, it sucks |
| 16:32.37 | jbevren | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:32.50 | gandhijee | i haven;t had time to reload my laptop =( |
| 16:32.54 | agaffney | there's a new bcm43xx module in the 2.6.17 kernels |
| 16:32.56 | jbevren | that one's a gamebox though, so I dont mind windows on it |
| 16:33.02 | agaffney | you just need to extract firmware from a windows driver |
| 16:33.11 | agaffney | and then hotplug/udev takes care of the rest |
| 16:33.25 | gandhijee | when i get back to school i'll have some time to setup my laptop i dunno if i should go to BSD or not |
| 16:33.32 | agaffney | Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) |
| 16:33.44 | agaffney | good luck getting the broadcom chip to work in BSD :P |
| 16:33.59 | gandhijee | gentoo it is then |
| 16:34.38 | chouimat | agaffney: how much for this nice computer? |
| 16:35.00 | agaffney | gandhijee: good choice :P |
| 16:35.05 | agaffney | chouimat: $400...it's 2 years old |
| 16:35.11 | agaffney | Averatec 3200 series |
| 16:35.12 | chouimat | wow |
| 16:35.20 | agaffney | they're all over the place on ebay |
| 16:35.28 | agaffney | but I actually bought this from my dad |
| 16:35.32 | gandhijee | i migth have to pick one of those up then |
| 16:35.37 | agaffney | because he was going to sell it on ebay |
| 16:35.45 | gandhijee | and leave this one with winblows so i can play Counter-Strike |
| 16:35.51 | agaffney | they got for ~$330 to ~$440 depending on accessories |
| 16:36.05 | agaffney | s/got/go/ |
| 16:36.10 | agaffney | purl: die |
| 16:36.12 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 16:36.16 | agaffney | whee! |
| 16:36.39 | prpplague | gandhijee: just a side note, try to keep the language polite, alot of the folks here are at work and the business net filters don't take kindly to lots of swear words |
| 16:36.50 | sorphin | anyone that cares |
| 16:36.52 | sorphin | buy.com |
| 16:36.56 | sorphin | 2G usb drive |
| 16:37.02 | sorphin | $29.99 after rebate, free ship |
| 16:37.03 | gandhijee | the win* comment? |
| 16:37.13 | agaffney | haha |
| 16:37.18 | sorphin | prpplague: business net filters? |
| 16:37.19 | sorphin | lol |
| 16:37.31 | gandhijee | we are in IRC... |
| 16:37.52 | gandhijee | the business net filters hit that up too? |
| 16:38.00 | sorphin | gandhijee: some people (like prpplague probably) go through proxies |
| 16:38.04 | gandhijee | O |
| 16:38.07 | sorphin | probably what he means |
| 16:38.17 | sorphin | nothing i do proxies :) |
| 16:38.34 | agaffney | I guess I shouldn't type the lyrics of the songs I'm listening to, then :P |
| 16:39.45 | prpplague | using irc for most business environments is a privilage, we try not to abuse it |
| 16:40.22 | gandhijee | i c, i've always worked for small companies, so they tend to be decent about it |
| 16:40.29 | agaffney | I run the network where I work :P |
| 16:45.51 | sorphin | prpplague: no privilege here |
| 16:46.09 | sorphin | course, i'm not in your normal 'business environment' :) |
| 16:46.25 | sorphin | agaffney: i guard the backbone where i work ;) |
| 16:46.26 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:46.58 | gandhijee | whats your backbone? 128K isdn? |
| 16:47.00 | gandhijee | j/k |
| 16:47.02 | sorphin | no |
| 16:47.05 | sorphin | OC-192 |
| 16:47.08 | sorphin | :P |
| 16:47.22 | gandhijee | mmm OC-192 |
| 16:47.24 | sorphin | XO Communications |
| 16:47.26 | prpplague | sorphin: you gonna be able to get your car fixed? |
| 16:47.42 | sorphin | prpplague: it's in process, and the bozo's insurance company is accepting fault |
| 16:47.58 | prpplague | sorphin: well thats good |
| 16:48.01 | sorphin | prpplague: got a copy of the final "estimate" yesterday from state farm |
| 16:48.04 | sorphin | $10,xxx |
| 16:48.07 | prpplague | sorphin: atleast you don't have to worry about that |
| 16:48.11 | gandhijee | ouch |
| 16:48.16 | gandhijee | 10K to fix your car? |
| 16:48.18 | sorphin | yes |
| 16:48.27 | gandhijee | what kinda car is it? |
| 16:48.33 | sorphin | gandhijee: the car is still worth $34,000 though ;) |
| 16:48.35 | prpplague | an expensive one |
| 16:48.39 | gandhijee | apparently |
| 16:48.45 | gandhijee | must be a BMW or Lex |
| 16:48.48 | sorphin | gandhijee: 2006 Nissan 350Z convertible |
| 16:48.53 | gandhijee | or that |
| 16:48.55 | gandhijee | still new |
| 16:48.55 | sorphin | ;) |
| 16:49.02 | sorphin | Bought it in January |
| 16:49.09 | gandhijee | that sucks, what part did he manage to damage? |
| 16:49.15 | sorphin | she, and the front |
| 16:49.16 | prpplague | most expensive car i've ever owned cost me $11k |
| 16:49.24 | sorphin | prpplague: the list of parts being replaced |
| 16:49.27 | sorphin | was 2 pages about |
| 16:49.28 | sorphin | lol |
| 16:49.29 | gandhijee | mines been 9k |
| 16:49.32 | gandhijee | snap |
| 16:49.37 | sorphin | Radiator costs over $400 |
| 16:49.43 | gandhijee | crap |
| 16:49.58 | sorphin | heck, the headlights are $779 |
| 16:49.59 | sorphin | lol |
| 16:50.01 | gandhijee | that really sucks |
| 16:50.13 | gandhijee | how'd it happen |
| 16:50.18 | sorphin | i feel sorry for that stupid chick, her insurance is gonna go way up |
| 16:50.31 | sorphin | prpplague: what about your.. um.. taht POS you were driving |
| 16:50.40 | gandhijee | she run a light or something/ |
| 16:50.52 | prpplague | sorphin: i didn't buy that, my ex-wife did |
| 16:51.01 | sorphin | gandhijee: failed to yield on green when she turned left in front of me |
| 16:51.23 | gandhijee | O |
| 16:51.27 | sorphin | prpplague: well, atleast she's not an issue anymore, heh |
| 16:51.30 | prpplague | sorphin: it was awarded to me in the divorce since she couldn't pay for it, so she got my car |
| 16:51.44 | sorphin | ah |
| 16:51.46 | prpplague | sorphin: yea |
| 16:51.58 | gandhijee | your car was an escort, and in place you at a??? |
| 16:52.15 | prpplague | gandhijee: hyundai tiburon GT |
| 16:52.25 | sorphin | basically |
| 16:52.25 | gandhijee | ah |
| 16:52.29 | sorphin | same crap |
| 16:52.31 | sorphin | lol |
| 16:52.38 | prpplague | sorphin: not really |
| 16:52.40 | gandhijee | w/ a bigger engine |
| 16:52.44 | sorphin | still crap |
| 16:52.44 | sorphin | lol |
| 16:52.47 | gandhijee | v6 ? |
| 16:52.58 | prpplague | gandhijee: yea, with 6 speed manual |
| 16:53.00 | sorphin | prpplague: you wanted to offload it at one point ;) |
| 16:53.05 | prpplague | sorphin: still do |
| 16:53.22 | sorphin | well, people don't offload good cars that they like :) |
| 16:53.46 | gandhijee | maybe he just doesnt like the car |
| 16:53.53 | prpplague | sorphin: it'll be paid for in about 6 months, and i'll take it to a field and fill it full of diesal and shoot it with a roman candle |
| 16:53.55 | sorphin | his car and my car cost the same |
| 16:53.59 | sorphin | my car is nicer |
| 16:54.10 | sorphin | prpplague: take plenty of pictures |
| 16:54.16 | gandhijee | the crossfires seem kinda nice |
| 16:54.16 | prpplague | sorphin: will do |
| 16:54.26 | jbevren | <- 95 olds cutlass ciera s |
| 16:54.27 | sorphin | gandhijee: if you like Mopar |
| 16:54.28 | gandhijee | why you gonna do that? why not just trade it in? |
| 16:54.37 | gandhijee | <-96 nissan ratfinder |
| 16:54.46 | prpplague | gandhijee: personal issues |
| 16:54.46 | sorphin | gandhijee: oh yeah, with the plethora of car dealerships in barbados huh? ;) |
| 16:54.56 | gandhijee | gotch ya |
| 16:54.57 | prpplague | sorphin: its not in barbados |
| 16:55.03 | gandhijee | good point |
| 16:55.04 | sorphin | prpplague: ah, didn't drag it along huh? |
| 16:55.16 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, its in a parking garage in dallas |
| 16:55.25 | sorphin | $100/day? |
| 16:55.27 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:55.37 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, $240 for a year |
| 16:56.03 | sorphin | $1.52/day |
| 16:56.05 | sorphin | not bad |
| 16:56.07 | prpplague | sorphin: its not about the quality of the car, just don't like the fact i got stuck with it |
| 16:56.18 | prpplague | sorphin: i don't like making car payments |
| 16:56.23 | sorphin | prpplague: ah, for me, it's totally about quality |
| 16:56.24 | prpplague | sorphin: i've always paid cash for my car |
| 16:56.40 | sorphin | only car i paid cash for was a 1979 cutlass |
| 16:56.42 | gandhijee | why not fill with a 1/4 tank of gas and put some dynamite in it and let it go over a cliff? |
| 16:56.43 | sorphin | my first car |
| 16:56.55 | sorphin | gandhijee: there are more fun ways |
| 16:57.00 | prpplague | gandhijee: hard to explain to the insurance company |
| 16:57.07 | sorphin | bleach, pingpongball, gas tank |
| 16:57.09 | sorphin | ... |
| 16:57.43 | gandhijee | lol |
| 16:58.02 | prpplague | no it will be much more satisfing knowing that having to pay for it didn't break me, and that it will be the last symbol of my divorce removed |
| 16:58.15 | gandhijee | and the diesal and roman candle won't be |
| 16:58.27 | prpplague | gandhijee: difference is it will be paid for |
| 16:58.38 | prpplague | gandhijee: not doing it till its paid for |
| 16:58.44 | sorphin | well, my car is solely in my name |
| 16:58.48 | sorphin | missy's not even on the insurance |
| 16:58.48 | gandhijee | yeah, i'm saying to the dynamite thing after you've paid it off |
| 16:59.09 | prpplague | sorphin: she wasn't on my car and i on her's |
| 16:59.16 | gandhijee | shooting it with a shotgun could be gun too |
| 16:59.17 | prpplague | sorphin: lovely things the court can do |
| 16:59.24 | sorphin | prpplague: then you had a crappy lawyer |
| 16:59.25 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:59.41 | prpplague | gandhijee: oh, well thats not exactly leagal |
| 16:59.48 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, just the way the laws are |
| 16:59.49 | sorphin | but anyways, i'm going to lunch.. in my "rental car" |
| 16:59.58 | sorphin | stupid Ford Escape |
| 17:00.12 | gandhijee | they gave you an escape? |
| 17:00.21 | sorphin | Enterprise did |
| 17:00.28 | sorphin | only car they had left in the whole area |
| 17:00.30 | gandhijee | the usually give you something in the lines of your car |
| 17:00.33 | sorphin | the last storm here wiped them out |
| 17:00.45 | gandhijee | where you at |
| 17:00.57 | sorphin | stlouis.mo.us |
| 17:01.02 | gandhijee | ah |
| 17:02.54 | gandhijee | imma go get some food. sun guy is done iwth his speech |
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| 17:14.20 | prpplague | T0mW: hey hey |
| 17:14.34 | prpplague | T0mW: congrads man |
| 17:14.50 | T0mW | prpplague: thanks, I think... |
| 17:15.23 | prpplague | T0mW: for teaching me about eagle well enough that i was able to actually help someone in another channel today! |
| 17:15.40 | gandhijee | the sun guy is has a thinkpad w/ windows |
| 17:15.41 | gandhijee | lol |
| 17:16.12 | prpplague | T0mW: yea yea i know teaching me is like putting a 1/2 gallon of water into a pint glass |
| 17:16.25 | T0mW | jbevren: I got a long term contract building a new system, and I plan to use linux as the core |
| 17:16.35 | jbevren | ah |
| 17:16.36 | jbevren | very cool |
| 17:16.43 | jbevren | the big one youve been shooting for? |
| 17:16.49 | prpplague | hehe that wasnt what the congrads for , hehe |
| 17:16.56 | T0mW | jbevren: yeah, 7 months to build this thing.. |
| 17:17.17 | T0mW | jbevren: that's why I need the linux, I don't want to write another proprietary o/s |
| 17:17.34 | T0mW | prpplague: for what then? |
| 17:18.01 | prpplague | T0mW: for teaching me about eagle well enough that i was able to actually help someone in another channel today! |
| 17:18.08 | T0mW | heh |
| 17:18.16 | T0mW | sometimes rocks can learn too |
| 17:19.09 | prpplague | i'm getting better at it |
| 17:19.19 | prpplague | maybe one day i'll actually get a board made |
| 17:20.17 | T0mW | I ordered that Little Chips LN2410SBC_TFT |
| 17:20.20 | prpplague | T0mW: still alot of things i find lacking in the utilities |
| 17:20.23 | prpplague | T0mW: yea i saw |
| 17:20.31 | prpplague | T0mW: its a nice little board |
| 17:20.39 | T0mW | they said they won't have stock until Aug 8 |
| 17:20.42 | T0mW | :( |
| 17:20.48 | prpplague | T0mW: gonna use s3c2410 for your design? |
| 17:20.59 | T0mW | seriously thinking about it |
| 17:21.32 | prpplague | T0mW: it would be nice if you did, we could share resources |
| 17:22.06 | prpplague | T0mW: if you use sharp's stuff, you'll be all alone(in the dark) |
| 17:22.29 | T0mW | yeah, well, he has been there before, we don't need to go there again |
| 17:22.47 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:23.15 | T0mW | prpplague: I figure it this way, dev on the 2410, then if they want to go with some other platform, the basic code is there. |
| 17:23.58 | prpplague | yea |
| 17:24.13 | jbevren | reasonable enough |
| 17:24.16 | prpplague | T0mW: thats basically what we did with the lh79520, we did some dev and decided to move on |
| 17:24.24 | jbevren | prpplague: on another topic, did you see the Oki mcu at sparkfun? |
| 17:25.01 | prpplague | jbevren: yea, semtec has been selling a similiar board for awhile |
| 17:25.12 | jbevren | prpplague: What do ya think about it? |
| 17:25.20 | prpplague | jbevren: its an ok design |
| 17:25.22 | jbevren | other than I have two pixters hehe |
| 17:25.45 | jbevren | so what makes it ok instead of good? :) |
| 17:26.06 | prpplague | just prefer something with an mmu |
| 17:26.09 | jbevren | ah |
| 17:26.12 | jbevren | that was a question too |
| 17:26.21 | jbevren | the only docs I could find looked like marketing crap |
| 17:26.37 | jbevren | since it doesnt have an mmu, I lose interest hehe |
| 17:27.54 | prpplague | http://www.simtec.co.uk/products/EB675001DIP/ |
| 17:28.08 | jbevren | anyone near wichita that's headed to Iowa? |
| 17:28.09 | jbevren | hehe |
| 17:34.29 | chouimat | ok time to get crazy for 10 minutes ... |
| 17:35.43 | prpplague | just for 10 minutes? |
| 17:38.49 | chouimat | prpplague: it's enough ... you know the "let lock him away" crazy kind ... |
| 17:39.42 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:40.04 | chouimat | prpplague: more than 10 minutes I get bored :) |
| 17:41.11 | T0mW | chouimat: short attention span, eh? |
| 17:42.51 | chouimat | T0mW: yup ... |
| 17:59.05 | prpplague | jbevren: what i'd really like to see is nice little board that the pixter mm main board plugs into |
| 17:59.23 | prpplague | jbevren: i jsut can't see to get organized with making it |
| 18:01.38 | jbevren | prpplague: nod |
| 18:01.50 | jbevren | make a playground using the sparkfun boards as examples |
| 18:03.12 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:10.49 | jbevren | which unknown? hehe |
| 18:11.39 | prpplague | jbevren: of what the board will actually turn out like |
| 18:12.05 | prpplague | jbevren: spending $100 not knowing if i'll get some nice beer coasters |
| 18:12.22 | jbevren | nod |
| 18:12.25 | jbevren | too true, that |
| 18:13.58 | prpplague | writing software is pretty cost free |
| 18:14.04 | prpplague | i can make lots of mistakes |
| 18:15.20 | prpplague | jbevren: i totally can't focus today , and i have a ton of work to do |
| 18:15.28 | jbevren | prpplague: get to work! |
| 18:15.29 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:16.37 | prpplague | jbevren: this weekend is gonna be a mad house on the island |
| 18:17.00 | prpplague | jbevren: big festival, ala mardi gra style |
| 18:17.06 | prpplague | jbevren: its "crop-over" |
| 18:17.26 | prpplague | jbevren: they call the parties here a "fete" |
| 18:18.26 | prpplague | jbevren: http://www.ask.com/reference/dictionary/ahdict/3652/fete |
| 18:18.30 | prpplague | interesting, its french |
| 18:19.46 | prpplague | "crop-over" started when the british slave owners gave their slave a week off when the sugar cane harvest was complete |
| 18:20.21 | prpplague | i.e. "crop harvest is over" became "crop-over" |
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| 18:44.03 | prpplague | T0mW: ping |
| 18:45.15 | T0mW | bbiam, doing UPS shipment |
| 18:46.04 | prpplague | np |
| 18:54.44 | T0mW | prpplague: ok, that is done. |
| 18:56.44 | T0mW | prpplague: heh, sounds like "crop over" is all the workers could gasp as they collapsed on the final day of harvest! |
| 18:57.23 | prpplague | hehe |
| 18:57.30 | prpplague | s/workers/slaves |
| 18:57.38 | T0mW | yeah |
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| 18:58.34 | prpplague | T0mW: the board layout is whats killing me, i can do the schematic pretty darn good now |
| 18:58.45 | prpplague | T0mW: just can seem to get the knack of doing the layout |
| 18:59.09 | T0mW | prpplague: takes experience |
| 18:59.17 | gandhijee | just make it look nice |
| 18:59.17 | prpplague | yea |
| 18:59.18 | gandhijee | j/k |
| 19:00.20 | T0mW | most of my early stuff was doing the iron-on laserjet stenciling so I could fabricate my own boards. That stuff was all through hole and pretty easy to do. |
| 19:00.39 | T0mW | prpplague: you are jumping into it somewhere in the middle by learning with SMD |
| 19:02.05 | prpplague | yea |
| 19:02.48 | prpplague | T0mW: thats my moto, jump directly in it, make sure you have something to scrap the mess of your shoes |
| 19:03.29 | T0mW | prpplague: you develop technique after a while, your own set of rules. In general, I build the schematic, incrementally do the layout, as I design the board itself. I use the CAD as my sketchpad. For example, the first proto of the MicroMux was 4 major revisions of the electronics. I would put circuitry on the pcb, then decide I could cram more onto it, shove stuff around and look at it again... |
| 19:04.31 | T0mW | prpplague: I won't send any PCB out for fabrication until I've "lived" with the final layout for a few days. There is always something that I forgot, or need to do. |
| 19:04.42 | prpplague | hehe eya |
| 19:04.50 | T0mW | IOW, I do a final walk through |
| 19:05.03 | T0mW | even then, I screw up |
| 19:05.07 | T0mW | ;) |
| 19:06.04 | T0mW | prpplague: double check your packages, don't assume anything, what someone calls an SOP is someone elses SSOP |
| 19:06.14 | jbevren | nod |
| 19:06.15 | jbevren | I hate that |
| 19:06.37 | T0mW | like there is a TSOP and a TSSOP, both are unique |
| 19:07.16 | T0mW | jbevren: the thing about standards is that there is no standards |
| 19:07.30 | T0mW | :/ |
| 19:08.03 | T0mW | ~kick purl |
| 19:08.04 | purl | bugger off, t0mw! |
| 19:08.35 | jbevren | nod |
| 19:08.37 | jbevren | theyre conventions |
| 19:08.38 | T0mW | Temperature: 95.0 F |
| 19:08.39 | jbevren | Isp?) |
| 19:08.50 | jbevren | 82°F |
| 19:09.02 | T0mW | jbevren: where are you? |
| 19:09.07 | jbevren | north central Iowa |
| 19:09.11 | T0mW | k |
| 19:09.12 | jbevren | noaa zc 50625 |
| 19:09.15 | jbevren | er noaa -> zc |
| 19:09.18 | T0mW | northeast PA here |
| 19:09.21 | jbevren | ah |
| 19:09.35 | T0mW | supposed to break this afternoon |
| 19:09.51 | CosmicPenguin | I hate it when afternoons break |
| 19:10.05 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: you should be used to that with a corporate job |
| 19:10.31 | CosmicPenguin | I'm sorry - I didn't hear you, I was busy counting my options |
| 19:10.37 | T0mW | LOL |
| 19:11.16 | T0mW | A) I can stay here and put up with the BS, B) I can go somewhere else and it will take a while for their BS to hit,... |
| 19:11.28 | T0mW | :D |
| 19:11.46 | CosmicPenguin | We've already been through this - I'm just too plain stupid to run my own business |
| 19:11.59 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: this year anyway |
| 19:12.05 | CosmicPenguin | I like to screw around too much |
| 19:12.12 | jbevren | ditto :( |
| 19:12.19 | T0mW | CosmicPenguin: exactly why I work for myself |
| 19:12.20 | CosmicPenguin | I would much rather have somebody else worry about all that crap |
| 19:12.31 | CosmicPenguin | I'm going to go off and hack on the kernel for a while - YOU figure out how to pay for it |
| 19:12.40 | T0mW | my boss is very easy going,heh |
| 19:12.49 | CosmicPenguin | I was a dick to myself |
| 19:13.18 | T0mW | not all roses though, I've got some 8051 work to do today. :( |
| 19:13.36 | T0mW | hopefully, I can kill that off this year |
| 19:18.27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you know what buildroot is missing? |
| 19:18.35 | CosmicPenguin | A way to list all the original sources for the various packages |
| 19:18.39 | CosmicPenguin | like 'make bom' |
| 19:18.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yea |
| 19:22.59 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 19:24.38 | CosmicPenguin | ~quote amd |
| 19:27.32 | prpplague | T0mW: you got an eagle lib for that mini-sd card socket you used on the zipit? |
| 19:28.03 | T0mW | no, I designed that |
| 19:28.11 | T0mW | prpplague: you want it? |
| 19:28.28 | T0mW | I can cut & paste it into a small lib |
| 19:29.12 | prpplague | T0mW: hmm, naw i guess not right now |
| 19:29.14 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:30.18 | T0mW | prpplague: I'll send it over anyway |
| 19:30.52 | prpplague | T0mW: okie grokie |
| 19:31.13 | prpplague | T0mW: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/images/microSD.jpg] |
| 19:31.15 | prpplague | T0mW: http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/images/microSD.jpg |
| 19:31.27 | prpplague | T0mW: what are the two pins marked "RS" ? |
| 19:31.42 | prpplague | reserved? |
| 19:32.26 | prpplague | i still can't decide if i want to try putting the USB host on this board |
| 19:40.39 | T0mW | prpplague: you have mail |
| 19:42.11 | T0mW | prpplague: hmm, just realized that the lib I sent doesn't have names only numbers on the pins |
| 19:49.21 | prpplague | T0mW: obvious i have alot more work to do on this |
| 19:49.31 | prpplague | T0mW: my design that it |
| 19:49.32 | prpplague | is |
| 20:40.21 | prpplague | wheee |
| 20:40.30 | flyback | you see prpplague |
| 20:40.31 | flyback | you see |
| 20:40.37 | flyback | I told you it's a canuck conspiracy |
| 20:40.47 | flyback | my car belt snappd last night and it's only 1-2 yrs old |
| 20:40.49 | prpplague | flyback: don't make me kick you |
| 20:40.50 | flyback | guess where it's made |
| 20:40.58 | flyback | dude calm down I am making a joke |
| 20:40.59 | flyback | :) |
| 20:41.01 | flyback | smile |
| 20:41.14 | flyback | I think this was a canadian mafia hit |
| 20:41.22 | flyback | :P |
| 20:41.25 | prpplague | flyback: i've asked you repeatedly, i do not want to hear "canuck" in this channel |
| 20:42.02 | flyback | fine |
| 20:42.17 | flyback | I gotta go figure out wtf happen to my car anyways |
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| 22:26.12 | CP|Gone | I should become a shepard |
| 22:26.22 | CP|Gone | maybe keep some sheep |
| 22:27.48 | CosmicPenguin | Move to Meeteetse, Wyoming |
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