| 00:00.19 | CosmicPenguin | I have nothing |
| 00:00.25 | chouimat|shower | k |
| 00:00.33 | CosmicPenguin | AMD isn't relaly telling me very much right now, as you can guess |
| 00:15.26 | prpplague | well @#$%@$# |
| 00:15.31 | prpplague | elinux had a meltdown |
| 00:18.16 | chouimat | prpplague: the Release 1.0 of a software crash here but the beta works great ... |
| 00:19.52 | prpplague | hehe |
| 00:22.30 | chouimat | prpplague: I bet the only reason they released it was the 8 months between the 2 ... |
| 00:25.37 | prpplague | hehe |
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| 01:11.01 | prpplague | davidc__: you check out the wiki page? |
| 01:25.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you still around? |
| 01:25.41 | prpplague | anyone got the tinyurl that CosmicPenguin posted earlier? |
| 01:29.39 | prpplague | ho ho hum |
| 01:35.28 | flyback | hey thought you guys would like to see this |
| 01:35.29 | flyback | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t37U3AX1o-o |
| 01:35.37 | flyback | modding a ntsc lcd |
| 01:35.54 | flyback | like one of those $50 psone ones |
| 01:37.36 | prpplague | flyback: you got CosmicPenguin's tiny url he posted to me earlier? |
| 01:39.57 | flyback | no? |
| 01:41.29 | flyback | the flash one ? |
| 01:42.41 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:42.57 | flyback | that's a intel firmware hub bro |
| 01:43.07 | flyback | it's propritary garbage I have a few of the older 512's sitting here |
| 01:43.20 | flyback | 8M INTEL CHIP SET FWH PLCC 3V |
| 01:43.27 | flyback | FWH = firmware hub |
| 01:43.53 | flyback | it's supposted to have a normal mode too but I didn't figure out how complete it is yet |
| 01:44.07 | cougarvt | http://tinyurl.com/nxfvg |
| 01:44.12 | flyback | if it is complete I am going to have my friend start saving them when he tosses boards at his recycling place |
| 01:44.55 | flyback | I have no idea WTF intel was thinking with the whole firmwarehub garbage anyways |
| 01:48.10 | flyback | prpplague http://www.sst.com/downloads/datasheet/S71161.pdf |
| 01:49.18 | flyback | be nice if we could use it though, I always liked sst flash it always seems to work on any device I have had it on |
| 01:49.22 | prpplague | yea just did a test, i can use a jtag dongle with a 74ls245 to access it |
| 01:49.33 | flyback | those fwh chips? |
| 01:50.21 | prpplague | yea |
| 01:50.39 | flyback | yeah looks like it has 2 modes |
| 01:50.47 | flyback | fwh mode and standard flash mode |
| 01:50.48 | flyback | cool |
| 01:50.54 | flyback | i'lkl tell my friend to save some :P |
| 01:51.03 | flyback | might order some of those too :) |
| 01:51.35 | flyback | make sure you confirm it's read/write compatible prpplague |
| 01:51.41 | flyback | not just programmer compatible |
| 01:51.54 | flyback | you know what I mean :) |
| 01:52.40 | flyback | 74ls245 |
| 01:52.41 | flyback | hehehe |
| 01:52.45 | flyback | good old LS series |
| 01:53.01 | flyback | power hungry but fast and able to survive nuke holicosts |
| 01:53.50 | flyback | now all we need is a cheap tsop to plcc adaptor for the jb :P |
| 01:54.42 | flyback | that would only work for the 8 meg units though :/ |
| 01:57.41 | flyback | SHIT |
| 01:57.48 | flyback | sorry |
| 01:58.11 | flyback | another one of these DAMN sdram modules with no spd info turned up |
| 02:12.42 | flyback | wow scales up to 33 mhz, nice |
| 02:32.15 | MonMotha | gah, my ISP's fucked up again |
| 02:38.33 | flyback | hey MonMotha http://sciencezero.4hv.org/tslom.htm |
| 02:56.31 | prpplague | flyback: cool it on the url pastes |
| 02:56.59 | flyback | yes mommie :/ |
| 02:57.10 | CP|Home | Especially that one - i t was random |
| 02:57.22 | flyback | no it wasn't |
| 02:57.28 | flyback | it was a show about how stuff works |
| 02:57.30 | flyback | vcr's |
| 02:57.31 | flyback | computers |
| 02:57.32 | flyback | etc |
| 02:57.38 | flyback | ya know some stuff we deal with here? |
| 02:57.46 | flyback | or shows like that that got us interested in stuff here |
| 02:57.58 | CP|Home | We know how stuff works |
| 03:06.09 | MonMotha | chouimat|Zzzz: try boot with nosmp? |
| 03:06.59 | chouimat|Zzzz | MonMotha: the problem is more like preempt ... |
| 03:07.33 | MonMotha | well, sometimes preempt will cause problems that are SMP related |
| 03:07.35 | chouimat|Zzzz | I'm tired of getting segfault or panic when compiling glibc |
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| 03:08.50 | MonMotha | anyone in here done work with GPS? |
| 03:09.12 | jbevren | davidc__: You're on sparkfun.com's front page :) |
| 03:09.25 | jbevren | (I heard you broke the camera's secret, so I assume thats you) |
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| 06:12.35 | davidc__ | jbevren: yep, I know |
| 06:12.38 | davidc__ | jbevren: how embarrassing :P |
| 06:13.10 | davidc__ | jbevren: I asked sparky if I'm there to scare away all the customers.. he wouldn't give me a straight answer |
| 06:13.18 | davidc__ | prpplague: yea, looked at it for a second |
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| 12:04.30 | prpplague | mallum: morning |
| 12:04.34 | prpplague | redblue: greetings |
| 12:04.57 | mallum | hey prpplague |
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| 13:14.20 | jbevren | Good Morning, Dave. (/hal) |
| 13:15.11 | prpplague | good morning hal |
| 13:15.30 | prpplague | got the results of the tests on the AE-1 unit hal? |
| 13:16.34 | gandhijee | hey you guys happen to know how to install a package to another file system, but still have it keep everything sane? |
| 13:16.51 | gandhijee | like a ./configure --prefix= --install-path=/<path to install>? |
| 13:17.42 | prpplague | gandhijee: if i understand what you are asking, people use something like fakeroot or chroot to do the install |
| 13:18.19 | gandhijee | i don;t think i can use a chroot, the target is arm, while my host is x86 |
| 13:18.34 | gandhijee | but then again, i am 1/2 retarded when it comes to this stuff |
| 13:18.48 | prpplague | gandhijee: then probably what you are looking for is fakeroot |
| 13:18.55 | gandhijee | cool |
| 13:18.58 | prpplague | gandhijee: its was buildroot uses to do its installs |
| 13:18.59 | gandhijee | thanks for the info |
| 13:20.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: everyone of the mb's that i've gotten so far have the bios chip soldered on |
| 13:30.29 | CP|Home | heh - doh |
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| 13:30.59 | prpplague | CP|Home: no worry, i;ll figure something out |
| 13:31.08 | prpplague | CP|Home: i see indian rejected the OLPC |
| 13:31.18 | prpplague | CP|Home: the bios on the OLPC is socketed? |
| 13:32.23 | CP|Home | prpplague: heh - don't believe everything you read.. :) |
| 13:32.35 | prpplague | jbevren> Good Morning, Dave. (/hal) |
| 13:32.49 | prpplague | CP|Home: yea |
| 13:32.56 | prpplague | davidc__: moring |
| 13:32.58 | CP|Home | prpplague: on the rev_a boards we have a PLCC ROM and the serial flash |
| 13:33.06 | CP|Home | s/ROM/ROM socket/ |
| 13:33.12 | CP|Home | the production boards will only have the serial flash |
| 13:33.23 | prpplague | ahh |
| 13:33.24 | davidc__ | morning prpplague |
| 13:33.59 | prpplague | CP|Home: the serial flash will be used to do the bios? |
| 13:34.20 | CP|Home | http://david.woodhou.se/27-07-06_0231.jpg |
| 13:34.25 | CP|Home | Bringin' up the LCD |
| 13:34.40 | CP|Home | prpplague: yeah - the ROM will be in the serial flash on the final product |
| 13:34.52 | jbevren | davidc__: is that you on sparkfun's front page? |
| 13:34.54 | prpplague | ahh |
| 13:34.58 | prpplague | jbevren: yea |
| 13:35.03 | jbevren | thoguht so :) |
| 13:35.03 | davidc__ | jbevren: yup |
| 13:35.04 | jbevren | congrats :) |
| 13:35.12 | davidc__ | thanks :P |
| 13:35.13 | CP|Home | but for now, we haven't found a reliable way to flash the serial flash without running a huge risk of corrupting the ec code |
| 13:35.23 | CP|Home | so thats why I'm using the PLCC |
| 13:36.13 | prpplague | interesting |
| 13:37.26 | gandhijee | i don't think fakeroot is the right tool, is there something like chroot for crossarch? or is that supposta be fakeroot? |
| 13:38.02 | prpplague | gandhijee: if i understand what you are asking for, yes fakeroot is what you want |
| 13:38.37 | prpplague | CP|Home: there a index page for dwmw2's pic page? |
| 13:39.49 | gandhijee | i guess i don;t understand how to use it then |
| 13:40.14 | gandhijee | fakeroot fakes my root prives from what i see |
| 13:40.55 | prpplague | maybe i'm not understanding what you are asking |
| 13:41.17 | gandhijee | i have lighthttpd in a build directory in my home directory, |
| 13:41.34 | CP|Home | prpplague: heh - no, I don't think he does that |
| 13:41.46 | gandhijee | then also in my home directory i have a ramdisk that is created and mounted in say xscale |
| 13:42.44 | gandhijee | i want to be able to go to lighthttpd directory and do a make install and have it install to the mounted ramdisk, but if i use --prefix=~/xscale it hardcodes the rest of the paths in |
| 13:43.11 | gandhijee | i want to prevent that, i know some packages have a ./configure --install-dir= or make INSTALL_PATH= |
| 13:43.49 | gandhijee | so i can install it to my xscale place, but when i run the configure or make i can point it at / |
| 13:43.58 | prpplague | gandhijee: normally you can override the "DESTDIR" on the make command line |
| 13:44.12 | gandhijee | O |
| 13:44.35 | gandhijee | just use a make DESTDIR= ?? |
| 13:44.43 | prpplague | gandhijee: take a quick look at your makefile and see if it has support for DESTDIR in the install |
| 13:44.48 | prpplague | gandhijee: yea |
| 13:44.52 | gandhijee | cool |
| 13:45.28 | gandhijee | sweet |
| 13:45.32 | gandhijee | thanks! |
| 14:00.43 | chouimat | morning |
| 14:04.15 | prpplague | morning |
| 14:05.25 | prpplague | chouimat: http://www.vision-photography.net |
| 14:08.13 | chouimat | prpplague: ok after watching the press conference for the monteal's outgames ... i think I will found the SWMAM (Straight White Men Affirmation Movement) ... I know I'm not politically correct |
| 14:08.31 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe |
| 14:08.36 | prpplague | chouimat: you check out that url? |
| 14:08.49 | chouimat | prpplague: nice pictures err ladies ;) |
| 14:09.03 | prpplague | chouimat: thats my brothers site |
| 14:09.23 | chouimat | prpplague: wow |
| 14:09.25 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, of course he usually bags them afterwords, hehe |
| 14:10.19 | chouimat | prpplague: ok a true photographer then !!!! ;) |
| 14:11.56 | prpplague | hehe, he has a couple pics of himself at the bottom of the main page |
| 14:12.16 | prpplague | i think my mother had an afair because, he doesn't look a thing like me and my sister |
| 14:13.14 | chouimat | prpplague: hmmm |
| 14:14.57 | agaffney | prpplague: that doesn't mean much. my brother looks nothing like my sister and I |
| 14:15.10 | agaffney | he looks a lot like my dad, and my sister and I look a lot like my mom |
| 14:15.11 | prpplague | agaffney: hehe it was a joke |
| 14:15.24 | agaffney | heh, ok |
| 14:21.00 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, he uses more hair products than my wife |
| 14:21.47 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe |
| 14:30.41 | prpplague | mallum: ordered you a pixtermultimedia yet? hehe |
| 14:36.21 | prpplague | http://image.weather.com/images/sat/caribsat_720x486.jpg |
| 14:36.26 | prpplague | hmm kinda wet today |
| 14:38.04 | prpplague | davidc__: i'm totally offended that sparky didn't list my wiki page , hehe |
| 14:38.34 | davidc__ | prpplague: hehe, he rarely checks that thread unless I tell him theres something new |
| 14:38.40 | prpplague | ahh |
| 14:39.37 | davidc__ | heh, he'll probably check it sometime today |
| 14:39.41 | davidc__ | you only posted it last night :P |
| 14:40.03 | davidc__ | prpplague: and if you say I told you to bug him, I'll cause you paimn |
| 14:40.05 | davidc__ | *pain. |
| 14:40.10 | prpplague | hehe |
| 14:40.11 | prpplague | yea |
| 14:42.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: isn't that what you normally do? |
| 14:42.43 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, but this is going to be one of my better rants |
| 14:44.04 | CosmicPenguin | ohhhh |
| 14:44.10 | CosmicPenguin | nectar of the gods |
| 14:44.39 | davidc__ | CosmicPenguin: hmm? |
| 14:44.40 | davidc__ | rant? |
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| 14:50.15 | prpplague | sjhill: greetings |
| 14:50.28 | sjhill | hello |
| 14:50.41 | jbevren | re shjill |
| 14:50.49 | jbevren | s/hj/jh/ |
| 14:51.00 | sjhill | purl: botsnack |
| 14:51.00 | purl | aw, gee, sjhill |
| 14:51.21 | sjhill | hey jbevren |
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| 15:05.55 | flyback | guys this looks like it's going to be fun to port linux to |
| 15:05.57 | flyback | http://www.eet.com/news/latest/showArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=3C4DEBYDCEQJOQSNDLSCKHA?articleID=191204719 |
| 15:06.57 | prpplague | flyback: well congrads you actually posted something ontop |
| 15:06.59 | prpplague | topic |
| 15:07.18 | agaffney | heh |
| 15:07.20 | flyback | heh |
| 15:07.25 | agaffney | I hate sites that have the sessionid in the URL |
| 15:07.41 | flyback | DUAHHHHHHHHHH! |
| 15:08.02 | flyback | seriously though that looks sweet |
| 15:08.27 | flyback | I always liked the TI omap over the intel xscale for the same reason and I was sorry when palm switched to Xscale |
| 15:08.45 | flyback | having dsp's to handle the nansty stuff makes more sense than keep tryin to crank up the clock |
| 15:09.44 | flyback | btw folks Xlinx just announced a recall on some of their fpgas in case anyone here is affected, back later |
| 15:11.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&productId=84961 |
| 15:13.47 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - thats one of those "all in one" fly tying kits |
| 15:14.07 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:14.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they have caps, resistor and linear kits as well |
| 15:14.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: for about $500 you could have a full work bench, hehe |
| 15:15.14 | CosmicPenguin | Now, if I could only solder a junction smaller then a manhole cover |
| 15:15.25 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:15.26 | davidc__ | CosmicPenguin: you don't like 0201s? |
| 15:15.33 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:15.45 | chouimat | prpplague: nice pricing |
| 15:16.41 | gandhijee | flyback: you have a link for that? |
| 15:17.03 | prpplague | chouimat: yea, that averages out to about 0.28 each |
| 15:18.16 | chouimat | prpplague: I should train myself with a soldering iron ... I suck with one ... I have no manual dexterity ... but I'm a fairly good drummer ... can't have it all |
| 15:18.49 | prpplague | hehe |
| 15:18.56 | prpplague | chouimat: takes lots of practice |
| 15:19.06 | flyback | gandhijee try www.eet.com and www.digitimes.com |
| 15:19.08 | flyback | it was one of those |
| 15:19.12 | prpplague | chouimat: i normally use just a cheap 12watt weller that i file the tip |
| 15:19.40 | flyback | prpplague I saw a 4 or 8 watt battery weller 900F for $13 at home depo |
| 15:19.45 | flyback | I was damn tempted |
| 15:19.52 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe, so when i've used the iron at the office, its like the difference between a carpenter pencil and a needle |
| 15:19.53 | chouimat | prpplague: last time I used one I nearly burned the house ... so :) |
| 15:20.32 | chouimat | ok my coworker is here ... |
| 15:21.13 | flyback | chouimat you know why cats like laptops don't you? |
| 15:21.23 | chouimat | ? |
| 15:21.32 | flyback | same reason as crts |
| 15:21.36 | flyback | *warm* |
| 15:22.11 | chouimat | flyback: want to piss off a cat ... replace while it sleeps all crts by lcds ;) |
| 15:22.19 | flyback | hahaha |
| 15:22.23 | flyback | :D |
| 15:22.25 | prpplague | http://www.jameco.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?storeId=10001&catalogId=10001&langId=-1&categoryId=205010 |
| 15:22.34 | prpplague | beats the heck out of radio shack pricing, hehe |
| 15:22.41 | flyback | dude |
| 15:22.48 | flyback | my backside beats anything radio shack |
| 15:22.51 | flyback | :P |
| 15:22.54 | prpplague | hell i could order about 10 of those and open a store, hehe |
| 15:23.51 | chouimat | prpplague: Papa Dave's Electronic Wh[a,o]rehouse ? |
| 15:24.37 | agaffney | W{a,ho}rehouse, biatch :P |
| 15:24.44 | chouimat | :) |
| 15:28.56 | chouimat | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.18 | prpplague | chouimat: about a year ago when things were looking dark about getting donna's visa/greencard, i actually considered opening up a shop |
| 15:35.36 | prpplague | chouimat: "The Geek Zone" |
| 15:36.20 | prpplague | chouimat: kind of a think geek + jameco |
| 15:36.24 | chouimat | prpplague: let me guess ... Electronic stuff and quality beer :) |
| 15:36.30 | prpplague | chouimat: hehe |
| 15:36.53 | prpplague | chouimat: well the beer wasn't an option, its practically impossible to bring in beer |
| 15:37.37 | chouimat | prpplague: here every chapters/indigo got a starbucks in them so ... with not a computer store with a bar in it ... drink a beer while we build your computer ... |
| 15:37.45 | prpplague | chouimat: the same government officials that control both the import laws and the people issue the permits, are major stock holders in the only brewery on the island |
| 15:38.07 | chouimat | nice ... |
| 15:38.46 | prpplague | chouimat: graft at its best |
| 15:39.23 | prpplague | chouimat: whats funny, they've been doing it for so long, most of the native islanders don't even know that their are other types of beers |
| 15:39.34 | prpplague | s/their/there |
| 15:39.35 | chouimat | LOL |
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| 15:47.04 | jbevren | heh |
| 15:47.10 | jbevren | I could tell so many linux horror stories :) |
| 15:47.17 | jbevren | but there are billions more windows ones |
| 15:47.33 | jbevren | but linux beats windows in so many ways |
| 15:47.39 | jbevren | try booting XP on the DHT walnut board |
| 15:47.43 | jbevren | over the network |
| 15:47.48 | jbevren | without a local disK :) |
| 15:50.43 | prpplague | jbevren: really? |
| 15:50.58 | prpplague | i guess i'm weird, i don't find i have many problems at all |
| 15:51.24 | jbevren | booting xp on the dht? |
| 15:51.25 | jbevren | hehe |
| 15:51.27 | jbevren | oh |
| 15:51.29 | jbevren | with linux |
| 15:51.39 | jbevren | most of my headache involves setting X up |
| 15:51.53 | jbevren | like the crap nvidia driver |
| 15:52.00 | prpplague | ahh |
| 15:52.03 | jbevren | in order to use both heads, I -have- to use twinview |
| 15:52.13 | jbevren | the othe rmethod for multiheading (as described by nvidia) simply doesnt work |
| 15:52.17 | prpplague | i don't use any heavy graphics stuff, so probably be why |
| 15:52.19 | jbevren | I -despise- twinview |
| 15:55.25 | jbevren | it turns two panels into one X head, which pretty much breaks standard multihead behavior |
| 15:56.42 | CosmicPenguin | Funny - I love twinview |
| 15:56.53 | jbevren | I want maximized windows to not span displays |
| 15:56.57 | jbevren | heh |
| 15:57.05 | CosmicPenguin | My maximized windows don't span displays |
| 15:57.07 | jbevren | even xinerama-aware WM's do it on twinview |
| 15:57.23 | CosmicPenguin | I have firefox maximized on the left |
| 15:57.24 | jbevren | are you sure youre using twinview? |
| 15:57.38 | CosmicPenguin | positive - I'm old school - I edit my own xorg.conf file |
| 15:58.03 | jbevren | I'm somehow unconvinced. Enabling twinview makes the two displays one head, making it impossible to know where the border between monitors is |
| 15:58.05 | jbevren | :P |
| 15:58.15 | CosmicPenguin | I think you're confused about twinview |
| 15:58.22 | jbevren | I think I'm not |
| 15:58.27 | CosmicPenguin | anyway, it works great for me |
| 15:58.31 | jbevren | if I maximize the window in kde or gnome, it spans displays |
| 15:58.42 | jbevren | I understand why it does so in fvwm1.4 :) |
| 15:58.55 | jbevren | (considering fvwm1.4 was dropped before xinerama was thought up) |
| 15:58.55 | CosmicPenguin | well, since neither kde nor gnome are window managers, your bug report is flawed from the beginning |
| 15:59.08 | jbevren | sawmill and kwm both have the issue |
| 15:59.09 | jbevren | next? |
| 15:59.18 | jbevren | :P |
| 15:59.25 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know what to tell you - if you want to believe it doesn't work then go ahead |
| 15:59.33 | jbevren | I dont believe |
| 15:59.33 | CosmicPenguin | I recommend you find yourself a better window manager |
| 15:59.34 | jbevren | I know |
| 15:59.37 | jbevren | I'm looking at it right now |
| 15:59.43 | CosmicPenguin | As am I |
| 15:59.49 | jbevren | shrug and sigh |
| 15:59.59 | jbevren | disdain for nvidia's stupid hackery continues :) |
| 16:00.14 | jbevren | youre supposed to be able to use two stanzas for one card to get true multihead |
| 16:00.18 | jbevren | but it doesnt work :P |
| 16:00.43 | jbevren | besides, twinview disables a few things I'd like to be able to use |
| 16:00.44 | CosmicPenguin | I'll bash Nividia when I have to - but in this case, you're barking up the wrong tree |
| 16:00.52 | jbevren | I'm venting :) |
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| 16:12.29 | samrobb_ | prpplague: Hola |
| 16:14.58 | samrobb_ | prpplague: Saw your question from yesterday - yes, that was me at OLS 2004. |
| 16:15.17 | samrobb_ | I'm surprised anyone remembered it. |
| 16:22.46 | prpplague | samrobb_: hehe |
| 16:23.00 | prpplague | samrobb_: i have the pdf printed and in a binder |
| 16:23.18 | prpplague | samrobb_: give it to our junior programmers |
| 16:33.28 | samrobb_ | prpplague: Wow. That's... wow. |
| 16:34.04 | CosmicPenguin | until you realize that its just prpplague |
| 16:34.07 | samrobb_ | (Granted, they probably use it as a sleep aid, but it's still neat :-) |
| 16:34.08 | CosmicPenguin | I mean... yeah! |
| 16:34.23 | samrobb_ | Well, I didn't say it was a *big* difference :-) |
| 16:34.31 | samrobb_ | Or a positive one, either... |
| 16:35.54 | prpplague | hehe |
| 16:36.15 | prpplague | well its make a big difference for use when adding our applications to buildroot |
| 16:36.52 | prpplague | samrobb_: funny, i didn't put your nick and the paper together until the other day |
| 16:37.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have you read it? |
| 16:37.39 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 16:38.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2004/view_abstract.php?content_key=104 |
| 16:38.41 | samrobb_ | prpplague: You might be interested in something we did at TimeSys that was based in part on that paper |
| 16:38.47 | CosmicPenguin | Hmm - good stuff to know |
| 16:39.03 | samrobb_ | It's a wrapper around RPM that makes it easy (well, easier) to cross-compile source RPMs |
| 16:39.17 | prpplague | samrobb_: ahh, cool |
| 16:39.37 | samrobb_ | Recently made available under the GPL: http://crossdev.timesys.com |
| 16:40.29 | samrobb_ | (Actually, it's Chris Faylor's work... I just use it and file bug reports occaisionally.) |
| 16:41.29 | prpplague | thanks |
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| 16:44.24 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: its called google - look into it |
| 16:44.44 | prpplague | http://www.linuxsymposium.org/proceedings.php |
| 16:45.01 | chouimat | prpplague: thnaks |
| 16:45.02 | prpplague | chouimat: its part of the procedings document |
| 16:45.35 | chouimat | prpplague: I just saw ... |
| 16:45.46 | prpplague | tim bird also did a nice paper on boot time thats very interesting |
| 16:50.17 | samrobb_ | prpplague: Yep - it was Tim's paper on boot time that got me interested in linux-tiny |
| 16:51.01 | samrobb_ | IIRC, Matt Mackall is working with/for Tim now as part of celinux |
| 16:52.05 | prpplague | samrobb_: yea seems like i saw something about that as well |
| 17:13.23 | chouimat | prpplague: btw tuesday a nice girl was here and when she saw the sign on my cat litterbox she wasn't able to stop laughing ... the sign say: "human resources department" ;) |
| 17:14.36 | prpplague | hehe |
| 17:14.59 | prpplague | nice |
| 17:16.17 | prpplague | chouimat: my boss at abcs made me take a sign down i had: Dave's Janitorial Service - Specializing in sewage cleanups and smoke damage from small fires |
| 17:17.45 | chouimat | hehe |
| 17:22.22 | chouimat | prpplague: when I was working for my father company I had this sign: Mathieu's Office: specialisation: Impossible ... yes we are currently working on immortality but don't hold your breath for now " |
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| 17:30.42 | flyback | http://www.bgmicro.com/prodinfo.asp?sid=04789236111111116716588141&prodid=KIT1028&page=2&cri=&stype=1 |
| 17:31.36 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: Driver's still buggy, but I worked out triplehead (vs single panel+twinview) heh |
| 17:32.05 | jbevren | HD44780 controllers are common as dirt |
| 17:32.08 | CosmicPenguin | triplehead? leet? |
| 17:32.21 | CosmicPenguin | thats not really a question actually - it is leet |
| 17:32.22 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: I have three displays |
| 17:32.32 | jbevren | with twin+1, if I maximize something on the twinview fb, it spans displays |
| 17:32.56 | jbevren | something in the xinerama data gets mashed when adding the third display device |
| 17:33.07 | jbevren | with triplehead, maximise works right on all three idsplays |
| 17:33.18 | flyback | jbe mp dide |
| 17:33.24 | flyback | that's a serial converter |
| 17:33.29 | jbevren | flyback: I know |
| 17:33.42 | jbevren | flyback: I was commenting that because they are, and that's therefore very usefula :) |
| 17:33.43 | flyback | oh thought you thiought that was a lcd or something :P |
| 17:33.52 | flyback | yep |
| 17:33.54 | flyback | I have like 32 |
| 17:34.09 | flyback | have to figure out the pinout and get rid of the lame connectors on them though |
| 17:34.11 | jbevren | I have a 128x64 somewhere, but it doesnt use the HD chip heh |
| 17:35.47 | jbevren | sparkfun has lots of lcd's powered by that controller tho |
| 17:36.46 | jbevren | CosmicPenguin: Now that xinerama's worth it (and working right), I'll have to migrate my fvwm1.4 config to fvwm2 :) |
| 17:36.48 | flyback | man that sucks ass :( |
| 17:36.54 | jbevren | 1.4's not xinerama aware |
| 17:36.59 | flyback | rocket blew up and took 14 cubesats with it |
| 17:37.01 | jbevren | 2.5 apaprently is :) |
| 17:37.05 | flyback | poor kids in college :( |
| 17:38.25 | gandhijee | whats wrong with being a poor kid in collegE? |
| 17:38.39 | flyback | no I feel bad for them |
| 17:38.42 | flyback | that was their babies |
| 17:38.45 | flyback | i'd be heartbroken |
| 17:40.51 | flyback | stupid russia |
| 17:40.55 | flyback | and the UN, you suck |
| 17:41.15 | flyback | because of them, the titan rockets had to be destroyed due to the non nuke poliferation treaty |
| 17:41.27 | flyback | and it turns out titans are rock solid satalite vechiles |
| 17:41.33 | flyback | but they had to be destroyed anyways |
| 17:41.38 | flyback | just to make people feel good |
| 17:41.46 | gandhijee | wouldn;t it make more sense for them to destroy just the war heads? |
| 17:41.58 | flyback | yeah but the lame treaty wanted them wiped out |
| 17:42.40 | flyback | we have reactors now that can "burn" warheads and dangerous nuke waste |
| 17:42.56 | flyback | down to mildly or just less dangerous radioactive materials |
| 17:43.23 | prpplague | flyback: calm down, let keep it on topic |
| 17:44.26 | flyback | ok, I just get pissed when good technology or resources are wasted cause of stupid decisions |
| 17:44.39 | flyback | and I feel bad for this kids who watched their college thesis burn up |
| 17:52.17 | sjhill | flyback ~= fishhead |
| 17:52.31 | flyback | uhh yeah everyone knows that |
| 17:52.41 | flyback | what's your point other than trying to stir up trouble |
| 17:52.42 | chouimat | hi sjhill |
| 17:52.43 | sjhill | i was asking |
| 17:52.47 | flyback | oh ok |
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| 17:52.54 | sjhill | hey chouimat |
| 17:54.31 | sjhill | chouimat: http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2006/linuxsymposium_procv1.pdf |
| 17:54.45 | sjhill | chouimat: so you can see the paper in the proceedings |
| 17:57.24 | chouimat | cool now I have some reading to do :) |
| 17:58.20 | sjhill | heh |
| 17:58.26 | sjhill | a couple months worth you mean |
| 17:58.41 | chouimat | sjhill: yup ... will start with 2002 and go to 2006 ;) |
| 18:27.17 | sjhill | and good riddance |
| 18:31.48 | jbevren | hehe |
| 18:33.24 | jbevren | http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/27/1543207 (firefox extension malware) |
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| 19:01.22 | prpplague | sjhill: hows biz? you get you project out the door? |
| 19:02.24 | sjhill | i don't remember. but i'm not stressed at all, so i must have. |
| 19:02.31 | prpplague | hehe |
| 19:02.48 | prpplague | sjhill: the one will the different filesystem builds in buildroot |
| 19:02.52 | prpplague | s/will/with |
| 19:04.42 | CosmicPenguin | thats not right |
| 19:09.20 | sjhill | prpplague: oh that, yeah that's finished |
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| 22:02.08 | prpplague | T0mW: hey old fart |
| 22:02.22 | T0mW | not true! |
| 22:02.45 | jbevren | haha |
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| 22:07.13 | T0mW | prpplague: I spoke with that customer this morning (SPI cards), I think he is accepting of my using linux as the o/s |
| 22:07.45 | T0mW | ... and, the Samsung part |
| 22:08.24 | T0mW | prpplague: he still wants to put WinCE in the front panel though, LOL |
| 22:09.08 | jbevren | heh |
| 22:09.16 | jbevren | I swear |
| 22:09.19 | jbevren | wince is such a great name |
| 22:09.59 | T0mW | it is entirely appropriate, but, I guess they figure a mult-billion dollar company can't be wrong |
| 22:45.46 | MonMotha | T0mW: you done much with AVRs? |
| 22:47.03 | T0mW | MonMotha: absolutely nothing |
| 22:47.36 | MonMotha | ok |
| 22:47.44 | MonMotha | I'm trying to figure out why this is doing this |
| 22:48.35 | MonMotha | if I turn on the SPI unit, the upper nibble of the io port SPI is on has severe drive issues (huge fall times, can't even drive a 1k load) |
| 22:48.47 | MonMotha | if I leave SPI off, the port works as expected |
| 22:48.52 | MonMotha | (but not SPI) |
| 22:49.20 | T0mW | MonMotha: there might be a Yahoo mailing list for the AVRs? |
| 22:50.13 | MonMotha | possibly |
| 22:50.32 | prpplague | MonMotha: a number of folks who do avr hang in #microcontrollers |
| 22:50.37 | MonMotha | prpplague: ok |
| 22:53.14 | MonMotha | prpplague: it's a fairly weird problem. The datasheet doesn't mention anything I can see... |
| 23:15.01 | prpplague | T0mW: oh hey i remembered what i needed to ask you |
| 23:15.47 | prpplague | T0mW: here is the situation, a device with 4 bi directional i/o pins |
| 23:16.06 | prpplague | T0mW: need to connect to a device with 4 in, and 4 out pins |
| 23:16.28 | prpplague | T0mW: looking at using a 74ls241 |
| 23:47.11 | prpplague | ok so here is a design question |
| 23:47.57 | prpplague | i can do this with one 74ls241 and one 72ls125, or i can just use two 74ls241 's with 1/2 of the second 241 not being used |
| 23:48.12 | prpplague | not much difference in cost, about 5 cents |
