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| 16:05.58 | |zongo| | ciao lucky_luke :) |
| 16:06.07 | lucky_luke | ciao ;) |
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| 16:43.02 | Pimpinella | |zongo|: everything?s k with 1v1 results now? |
| 16:45.48 | |zongo| | Pimpinella, i guess, but still im wondering what these fake results were |
| 16:48.40 | |zongo| | btw Pimpinella, strayer asked me for automation of 1vs1 results |
| 16:49.22 | |zongo| | He said that if he can get the daily results via GET or POST-Request to a webserver he could do it easily |
| 16:49.45 | |zongo| | can i put him in touch with u concerning this? |
| 16:49.56 | Pimpinella | i just let one of the filter commands run overthe last day?s logfile which trigged an automatic mail |
| 16:50.12 | |zongo| | Pimpinella, ok i see now |
| 16:50.53 | Pimpinella | strayer can easily do it, and i was thinking about the same more than a year ago too |
| 16:51.25 | |zongo| | yeah... |
| 16:51.32 | Pimpinella | just sending it via http is everything but failsafe if connection fails |
| 16:51.37 | |zongo| | it will also solve the zelo problem i have since months... |
| 16:51.48 | |zongo| | i see |
| 16:52.43 | Pimpinella | you have no rollback function to insert a match after you have added others played later |
| 16:53.25 | Pimpinella | so they are out of order even if you find out one was lost and enter it late |
| 16:53.46 | |zongo| | right |
| 16:54.05 | |zongo| | but one could recompute everything if it's automated |
| 16:54.45 | |zongo| | in anycase i dont know what to do...i have no skills to do that and the people who told me they will help me never did :/ |
| 16:55.35 | Pimpinella | sure, but you would also have to reimplement your zelo stuff |
| 16:57.07 | Pimpinella | judge yourself if you can rollback zelo |
| 16:57.13 | Pimpinella | to recompute it |
| 16:57.35 | Pimpinella | of course you could run a journal |
| 16:58.09 | |zongo| | i have all played games so i can do that |
| 16:58.28 | |zongo| | theoretically at least |
| 16:58.39 | Pimpinella | thought you lost them all at some point? |
| 16:59.06 | |zongo| | nope i only lost zelo scores |
| 16:59.11 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 16:59.37 | Pimpinella | oh, thats what you ment talking about your zelo score? |
| 16:59.53 | |zongo| | yes ;) |
| 17:00.49 | Pimpinella | somebody promised to write a file parser to automate recomputong, no? |
| 17:03.25 | |zongo| | yep, wizard told me smthing like that a while ago |
| 17:06.03 | Pimpinella | well, judge yourself wether sending results via http is ok for you |
| 17:06.28 | Pimpinella | i dunno if meno?s server is more reliable today than it used to |
| 17:07.30 | |zongo| | ok i will think about it, ty for help Pimpinella |
| 17:07.50 | Pimpinella | and if strayer is going to write something to send results he must do it outside of bzfs |
| 17:07.58 | Pimpinella | and not within a olugin either |
| 17:08.03 | Pimpinella | plugin |
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| 17:08.38 | |zongo| | yeah, i will ask him to write you if wizard cant to that |
| 17:08.54 | Pimpinella | the server will be stuck while the http request, if the webserver is unaccessible it?ll be stuck until timeout |
| 17:10.27 | Pimpinella | well, it?s plain simple finally, if he uses a common log watcher to identify match results and curl or wget to send results |
| 17:10.56 | Pimpinella | wb Grumpfy |
| 17:11.14 | Pimpinella | what made SC autorespond? |
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| 17:15.31 | Pimpinella | |zongo|: to make it concrete, if somebody will write the server side (at meno?s) i?ll volunteer in doing the client thing here |
| 17:15.32 | wizart | hi |
| 17:15.40 | Pimpinella | hi wiz :) |
| 17:15.48 | Pimpinella | long time no see |
| 17:15.54 | wizart | I see you are on it. |
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| 17:16.06 | wizart | Yea. Horribly busy right now. |
| 17:16.15 | wizart | I'm hunting 2 or 3 compiler bugs :/ |
| 17:16.30 | |zongo| | bll all, cya and thx for help :) |
| 17:16.30 | wizart | But I've 2 weeks holidays starting next week |
| 17:16.36 | wizart | cu zongo |
| 17:17.27 | Pimpinella | i wish i had holidays, too :/ |
| 17:17.44 | wizart | afaik. Currenty the code sends an email to zongo who enters the result on the webform |
| 17:18.22 | wizart | where it get stored in a flat file DB whith no locking at all so it might mess up the files. |
| 17:18.50 | Pimpinella | no, a script extracts the mach results once a day from the logs and thats what he enters on the web form |
| 17:19.19 | wizart | Ah. Does this script send the match results to Zongo as an email? |
| 17:19.22 | Pimpinella | wizart: yes, it?s not really sophisticated ;) |
| 17:19.32 | Pimpinella | yes, as email |
| 17:20.23 | wizart | Either way we have access to the script and the db part and the current code isn't that sophisticated (but works) so we are pretty free what we can do. |
| 17:20.48 | Pimpinella | yes |
| 17:21.09 | Pimpinella | zongo would have to provide you with the current code |
| 17:21.21 | wizart | I would like to see a system where we can trigger a recomputation of the zelos based on the match result history. |
| 17:21.28 | wizart | I have the current code. thx. |
| 17:21.50 | wizart | This way we could enter or delete matches later if there was an error. |
| 17:22.10 | Pimpinella | ok. he?d need a file parser for the resuts file to recompute everything from scratch, yes |
| 17:22.49 | wizart | My only problem so far was that I'm more of a perl guy and don |
| 17:22.50 | wizart | don'T know much about php |
| 17:23.16 | Pimpinella | i?m happy with perl, dunno about meno |
| 17:23.36 | wizart | hmm. sounds good :) |
| 17:23.44 | Pimpinella | but if you know c(++) php shouldn?t be a problem either |
| 17:24.24 | wizart | I think I could do it in php. But I'm not sure if it would look pretty. |
| 17:24.55 | Pimpinella | well, i just don?t have time to work on whatever parses z?s results file or enters results at meno?s |
| 17:24.57 | wizart | There are a lot of details involved with a new language. Like garbadge collection details etc. |
| 17:25.18 | wizart | ok. I don't have that part of the code yet. |
| 17:25.39 | Pimpinella | if i?m provided with an interface i can do what?s neccessary to use it here |
| 17:26.56 | Pimpinella | <Pimpinella> well, it?s plain simple finally, if he uses a common log watcher to identify match results and curl or wget to send results |
| 17:26.57 | wizart | Well. It would be possible to send the results to an email address and poll this address but that's not pretty. |
| 17:27.42 | Pimpinella | oh, even better than the "send it via http" thats suggested everywhere |
| 17:28.38 | wizart | send it via http has the advantage that we don't need to poll. |
| 17:28.57 | Pimpinella | well, if z can rollback results or recalculate results from scratch after lost matches have been inserted http isn?t a problem either |
| 17:29.10 | wizart | But polling for an email once ina while takes very little cpu time so this should be fine. |
| 17:29.33 | wizart | right. So you are interested in working on the display of the results? |
| 17:30.50 | wizart | Or even on the calculation and db part? |
| 17:30.51 | Pimpinella | no, i?m sorry, i can send results in every common protocol and in every form needed to enywhere, but thats where my time is used up |
| 17:31.14 | wizart | Ah. ok. np :) |
| 17:31.43 | Pimpinella | unfortunately |
| 17:31.46 | wizart | I won't be doing anything today. But starting next week I was "forced" to take time off until newyerar :) |
| 17:31.50 | Pimpinella | wish i had more time |
| 17:32.09 | Pimpinella | oh ;) |
| 17:32.17 | wizart | Time is an expensive thing to buy :) |
| 17:32.19 | Pimpinella | send your boss here |
| 17:32.33 | Pimpinella | he should force me too |
| 17:33.54 | Pimpinella | back to work btw... |
| 17:33.56 | Pimpinella | bb |
| 17:34.02 | wizart | He. I'm working as a contractor. And the budget of hours is used up. And an extension of a few hours would mean to redo all the contracts so it doesn't happen. |
| 17:34.09 | wizart | cu pimpi |
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| 18:24.52 | Pimpinella | wizart: that makes your "holidays" less desirably of course :/ |
| 18:25.34 | wizart | hehe. yes a little. But I cxan show up on 2.1.2007 again :) |
| 18:26.24 | Pimpinella | eases pain |
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| 21:51.27 | |zongo| | any dubber wants a match? |
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