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| 11:38.45 | |zongo| | Pimpi, xell says he doesnt have the right to run the /replay command on 5159 |
| 11:46.10 | Pimpi | |zongo|: should work after you /reloaded |
| 11:46.38 | |zongo| | Pimpi, what do u mean exactly? |
| 11:46.59 | |zongo| | he says that he has no permissions |
| 11:46.59 | Pimpi | ever tried the /reload command? |
| 11:47.17 | Pimpi | he hasn?t, you have though ;) |
| 11:47.25 | |zongo| | dont think so |
| 11:47.36 | Pimpi | lemme c |
| 11:47.47 | |zongo| | me too |
| 11:48.56 | |zongo| | i did /reload |
| 11:49.07 | |zongo| | what is that supposed to do? |
| 11:49.13 | Pimpi | well, *I* could /reload, so you should be able too |
| 11:49.35 | |zongo| | i just tried but dunno what it does |
| 11:49.48 | Pimpi | reloading databases. one of them is the servers groupdb, that contains permission specs |
| 11:49.59 | |zongo| | ah ok |
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| 15:31.20 | |zongo| | Pimpi, another thing: it would be nice to have a nice servermsg for 1vs1 servers (i think it's gone) |
| 15:31.38 | |zongo| | at least pointing to 1vs1.bzflag.org |
| 15:32.14 | |zongo| | 1vs1.bzleague.org* |
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| 18:22.30 | Pimpi | |zongo|: i didn?t get to recove the servermessage, it?s backup?ed however, for sure |
| 18:23.39 | Pimpi | |zongo|: if you wish something different though, make one (plain text file) and email to me |
| 18:59.37 | |zongo| | Pimpi, thx i'll think about it and do it |
| 19:00.49 | *** topic/#dub by Birdie -> Welcome to the notorious Donjon's Ugly Beasts channel || DUB team score 1660 || Greetings to our friends from other teams || Visit DUB-site at http://dub.bzleague.com || visit http://1vs1.bzleague.com :O) |
| 19:02.08 | |zongo| | not bad 1660 :P |
| 19:02.28 | Birdie | hehe |
| 19:02.31 | Birdie | just those barons..:) |
| 19:03.51 | |zongo| | :P |
| 19:04.14 | Birdie | league lost a good team with HoW though. |
| 19:04.30 | Birdie | although i hate some of them very much, they were always a hard team to play against |
| 19:04.48 | Birdie | and they putted us below 1600 regulary to show we are not that good:) |
| 19:08.23 | |zongo| | sure |
| 19:08.59 | |zongo| | it's a pity that there is this openleague anyways |
| 19:09.12 | Birdie | you better dont say that when molez hears it:) |
| 19:09.16 | |zongo| | splitting a so small community is really a pity |
| 19:09.23 | |zongo| | i dont mind |
| 19:09.27 | Birdie | they started that cause some started with the private league |
| 19:09.35 | |zongo| | they have good ideas and the concept is nice |
| 19:09.35 | Birdie | (which is the same, just that OL is open for eveyr one) |
| 19:09.44 | |zongo| | i know i know |
| 19:10.04 | |zongo| | imo private league was a big mistake |
| 19:10.39 | Birdie | and that you better dont say when kierra or thono hears it:) |
| 19:10.49 | |zongo| | or sc? :) |
| 19:10.55 | |zongo| | and again i dont care |
| 19:10.59 | Birdie | she wasnt really involved with it |
| 19:11.12 | Birdie | the only problem is this;: |
| 19:11.28 | Birdie | but i better paste in pm, not the nicest stuff:) |
| 19:12.23 | SportChick | |zongo|: I have nothing to do with IFL |
| 19:12.51 | |zongo| | i didnt know who's idea it was, just guessed |
| 19:14.38 | |zongo| | anyways it's hard to keep a secret...and private league was intended to be sort of secret... |
| 19:15.05 | SportChick | regardless, other than having received an invite initially, I have nothing to do with it |
| 19:15.13 | SportChick | my focus is on ducati, gu and pillbox |
| 19:15.25 | |zongo| | thats already alot :P |
| 19:16.12 | Birdie | my focus is to, the only problem is that the focussing aint there a lot lately:) |
| 19:17.45 | SportChick | |zongo|: yes it is..but I listed them in priority |
| 19:17.53 | SportChick | and that's how it works for me :) |
| 19:18.41 | Birdie | it all depends on time |
| 19:18.55 | Birdie | and most people dont have enough with 24hours in a day, like me:) |
| 19:19.04 | |zongo| | my priorities are ducati, 1vs1, pillbox |
| 19:19.15 | Birdie | oh ya 1vs1 |
| 19:19.25 | Birdie | did some days ago some matches, first time since the last championship:( |
| 19:19.48 | |zongo| | u want to play now Birdie ? |
| 19:20.15 | Birdie | no i had my relaxing moment, talking to some one about some schoolstuff:( |
| 19:20.27 | Birdie | sc: saw my msn message? |
| 19:20.55 | Birdie | (she is not the person i'm talking to about school:) ) |
| 19:21.00 | |zongo| | ok |
| 19:22.10 | Birdie | blue is there:) |
| 19:22.14 | Birdie | he will |
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| 19:23.10 | Birdie | ciao blue |
| 19:25.55 | Blue_Eyes | Ciao Birdie |
| 19:31.40 | |zongo| | Blue_Eyes, ti va di fare qualche 1vs1 tra 5 min? |
| 19:31.49 | Blue_Eyes | ok |
| 19:32.04 | Blue_Eyes | nessun match in giro? |
| 19:32.16 | |zongo| | abbiamo appena giocato io e Birdie |
| 19:32.37 | Blue_Eyes | com'e' andata? |
| 19:32.53 | |zongo| | bene, vinto contro untamed |
| 19:40.07 | Blue_Eyes | chi giocava per untamed, Catay e Karlik? |
| 19:40.54 | |zongo| | si |
| 19:40.54 | |zongo| | io son pronto |
| 19:40.54 | |zongo| | 5160? |
| 19:40.55 | Blue_Eyes | ok |
| 20:06.50 | |zongo| | sono tutti su openleague |
| 20:08.16 | |zongo| | Blue_Eyes, io sono su 5157 |
| 20:08.25 | |zongo| | aspetto che la gente arrivi |
| 20:08.42 | |zongo| | poi vado a nanna perchè sono sempre più stanco |
| 20:09.33 | Blue_Eyes | ok io sono in pm con Birdie |
| 20:10.04 | Birdie | ~|zongo|++ |
| 20:10.13 | Birdie | for being a good captain:) |
| 20:10.14 | |zongo| | :O) |
| 20:10.21 | |zongo| | thx thx :O) |
| 20:11.20 | |zongo| | ~karma |
| 20:11.20 | purl | |zongo| has karma of 9 |
| 20:11.50 | |zongo| | Blue_Eyes, il modello del mouse qual'è? |
| 20:12.06 | Blue_Eyes | microsoft, l'ho detto a Birdie |
| 20:12.28 | |zongo| | il modello, non la marc |
| 20:12.34 | |zongo| | marca* |
| 20:13.04 | |zongo| | im on 5157 |
| 20:59.30 | |zongo| | nite dubians |
| 20:59.58 | Pimpi | argh, just when i was going to inquiry him about IFL |
| 21:00.49 | Pimpi | a private league............what a stupid idea |
| 21:01.01 | Birdie | its a good idea in your eyes? |
| 21:01.17 | Pimpi | well, it might work for some |
| 21:01.26 | Birdie | aint bzflag a little to small for it? |
| 21:01.33 | Birdie | the idea is nice but i fear bzflag is not big enough |
| 21:01.42 | Birdie | we hardly have matches, if you want to slip things even more up |
| 21:02.16 | Pimpi | there are far to many leagues even now |
| 21:03.07 | Pimpi | it?s be a much better idea to combine leagues, letting them decide which map to play from match to match |
| 21:03.39 | Pimpi | adrenaline was a good thing from that point of view |
| 21:03.41 | Birdie | hmm |
| 21:03.50 | SportChick | yes, but difficult to do, since the teams in each league are different |
| 21:03.51 | Birdie | you cant combine gu and duc for example |
| 21:04.07 | Pimpi | why? |
| 21:04.23 | Birdie | you "could" do duc and pb, but some only like pb, others only duc. And most wont want one ranking for both |
| 21:04.36 | Birdie | combine league for me = having one ranking |
| 21:04.39 | Pimpi | ok, some teams might never play each other, because they are specialized on one map, but thats still fine for me |
| 21:04.42 | Birdie | you cant do that with duc and gu |
| 21:04.51 | Birdie | some only play gu, some only duc, some play both |
| 21:04.55 | Birdie | the ranking would look stupid |
| 21:05.30 | Birdie | phago are noobs on ducati but great on gu, they would be above, while they cant even shoot a tank on ducati (i overestimated to point out my point) |
| 21:05.48 | Birdie | + you have a lot of people in a gu team + in a duc team |
| 21:06.16 | Pimpi | even now we have teams that practically don?t match, whats the difference? |
| 21:06.37 | Pimpi | sure, players are spread among teams, thats a problem |
| 21:06.48 | Birdie | you cant expect them to leave one |
| 21:07.01 | Birdie | to play in one league for duc + gu |
| 21:07.14 | Birdie | so you cant combine them anyway |
| 21:07.43 | Pimpi | sure, it was more the result of brainstorming, i know it will hardly become true |
| 21:07.57 | Birdie | there are a lot of good ideas |
| 21:08.05 | Birdie | but the problem is, to find ideas that could happen:) |
| 21:08.15 | Pimpi | but as you said, bz isn?t big enough to have 5+ active leagues |
| 21:08.21 | Birdie | yep |
| 21:08.37 | Birdie | but people should have thought about that before making all those leags with all different teams:) |
| 21:08.45 | Birdie | what you could do is |
| 21:08.48 | Birdie | one jumping, one non jumping |
| 21:09.02 | Birdie | but even there you also have the problem of the teams allready |
| 21:09.47 | Pimpi | my opinion is that 2 shot and 3+ shot is much more a difference than jump and non jump |
| 21:10.15 | Birdie | hm |
| 21:10.29 | Birdie | the difference between 2 and 3 shots isnt that big if you look at jumping and non jumping |
| 21:10.37 | Birdie | if you ask a totally non jumper to jump, he will have a hard time to learn it |
| 21:10.53 | Birdie | (ask catay, admirarch, zongo, they all found out:) ) |
| 21:11.11 | SportChick | and me too :p |
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| 21:11.21 | Birdie | heh |
| 21:11.26 | Birdie | now he has 2! |
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| 21:11.46 | Pimpi | it always takes me 1-2 hours to get used to 3 shot when i play on gu. jumping is easy once you learned it |
| 21:12.03 | Birdie | some people just dont want to jump |
| 21:12.12 | Birdie | (zees to take one example) |
| 21:12.14 | Pimpi | but thats only my opinion of course |
| 21:12.19 | Birdie | but having 2 or 3shots is less hard for them |
| 21:12.49 | Pimpi | btw, i never said they had to jump |
| 21:13.34 | Pimpi | the fact that there are also jump maps used in a league doesn?t mean they have to play them |
| 21:14.22 | Pimpi | which boils down to the point that phago and zees would never play a match against each other |
| 21:14.32 | Pimpi | but i don?t think thats a problem ;) |
| 21:14.33 | Birdie | yea but than you will have teams that specialise themself in one |
| 21:14.43 | Birdie | and if you have one ranking that would suck |
| 21:15.13 | Birdie | cause you can be above, while you play great on one thing, but so badly on another but just dont play that |
| 21:15.34 | Birdie | on the other hand, you can put some "penaltys" in that you need at least some matches in a month on every map |
| 21:15.40 | Pimpi | still, thats all no problem for me |
| 21:15.48 | Birdie | but teams that are active from time to time wont like that either:) |
| 21:16.03 | Birdie | some can be one week very active, and than dissapear for two month |
| 21:16.10 | Pimpi | oh, those penalties would be a problem for me |
| 21:16.28 | Birdie | it also depends if people wants to play on it |
| 21:16.39 | Birdie | why having a combined league if several people dont want to play both or all three anyway |
| 21:16.50 | Birdie | what you could do is having 3 rankings |
| 21:16.52 | Pimpi | why not? |
| 21:16.57 | Birdie | one for pb, one for duc and one for gu |
| 21:17.01 | Birdie | and one big ranking |
| 21:17.17 | Birdie | with some kind of system that you add the points from all leagues together |
| 21:17.22 | Birdie | to have the "best team allround" |
| 21:17.33 | Birdie | but the ONLY big problem there is...different teams in all leagues |
| 21:17.36 | Pimpi | the more i think about having one raning for all, the more i like it |
| 21:17.54 | Birdie | (can sportchick summerize this for bzbb?:) ) |
| 21:18.38 | Pimpi | the teams heading to the very top of that league would have to play all styles anyway :) |
| 21:19.00 | Birdie | yep |
| 21:19.09 | Birdie | but you also still need the seperated rankings though |
| 21:19.16 | Pimpi | well, it?s late and ?was a hard day... |
| 21:19.18 | Birdie | and than one big ranking taking all 3 together |
| 21:19.30 | Birdie | gah why are there different teams, its a great idea:) |
| 21:19.34 | Pimpi | no, different rankings taint the whole idea |
| 21:20.00 | Birdie | i like a ranking for every style seperated to though, so you can see the better teams from each style |
| 21:20.36 | Birdie | and than the "big champion" like every 3 month |
| 21:20.42 | Birdie | or something like that |
| 21:23.56 | Birdie | ok bedtime for me |
| 21:24.06 | Birdie | up since 3am:( |
| 21:24.12 | Birdie | thx for the chat! was nice |