IRC log for #diablofans on 20110912

00:00.00Spl4sh3rSo quiet :(
00:00.41Spl4sh3rMaybe all are sleeping
00:01.21Washijust staring the screens as zombies
00:01.58Spl4sh3rYou can sleep while staring at screen aswell
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00:02.18doctorbowiewtf is with the site
00:02.21doctorbowieslow as hellll
00:02.25Spl4sh3rJust thinking about that makes me get a weird feeling in my neck
00:02.33Spl4sh3rNot slow for me
00:03.00Spl4sh3rBut nothing new either so it's boring
00:04.24Spl4sh3rjust saw a player get two rare boots from skeleton king
00:21.58Astrapoysat least i will have fifa 12 unti D3 comes
00:22.37Spl4sh3rmhm
00:22.49Spl4sh3rdo you think they will make the beta any longer than skeleton king?
00:26.37Washino
00:30.40Santihow much it takes to get there?
00:31.40Washi1h-1h45min maybe
00:32.22SantiD:
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00:36.05Kaulov_Any news on the hacking yet?
00:36.46WyngaleNope
00:36.56WyngaleWell, they building Shadow Fort.. rofl.
00:36.59WyngaleWhatever it means
00:39.27Kaulov_Why is it that Blizzard doesn't do any work on the weekends? :\ Well, at least doesn't post on the forums during the weekends.
00:39.53Kaulov_.
00:39.55Kaulov_And what the fuck
00:40.01Kaulov_Battle.net is running really slow
00:40.03ChaotiKsixen are you there and able to answer me a question about posting on diablofans.com ?
00:40.15survive-http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/kakgn/diablo_iii_beta_server_emu_dev_full_force_now/
00:41.10Kaulov_What is that, survive?
00:43.10Spl4sh3rChaotiK that doesn't sound like it would be hard to answer, just ask it :p
00:44.43ChaotiKeh nah id want his permission :p
00:45.02Spl4sh3rSounds like you did something bad
00:45.05Spl4sh3r:p
00:45.27Spl4sh3rthough I'm somewhat new on the forums, just made a my first post a while ago :P
00:45.46ChaotiKlol nah. i just finished compiling a complete list of all beta skills, runestone effects and updated passives. wanted to see if i can make a post on it since it links to my site
00:46.00Spl4sh3rWhich was about those small animal companions looting gold so you don't have to ;P
00:46.12Spl4sh3rWonder why no one ever mentioned that
00:46.23Spl4sh3rmhm
00:46.53ChaotiKi got my thread about diablo 3 calculators locked down.. don't wanna get ban hammered
00:47.32Spl4sh3rThat doesn't sound like it would get locked down, though depends on the content of the thread :P
00:47.57Spl4sh3rThough from my understanding there isn't much to calculate :P
00:50.20Spl4sh3reitherway gonna watch a movie and then go to bed :P
01:07.48Kaulov_I WANT ALL OF YOUR BABIES ;33333333
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01:19.22WyngaleI still don't get script formulas and like if all green options gonna go up when you level up.
01:20.10WyngaleWondering how everything scales.. /sad
01:26.27WyngaleKaulov, are you there ?
01:27.41WyngaleOr someone, QC requires. :p
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01:34.42Arogoshoping for beta early this week
01:35.25Astrapoyssame here...
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02:47.48KaulovWoo
02:47.59KaulovGot the new private facebook profile finished
02:48.01Kaulovx.x;
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02:56.16UlfheonarOla
03:00.04KaulovURFAYSE GOD DAMMIT
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03:01.57Ulfheonarwhat? lol
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03:05.31WyngalexD
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03:10.02[wKy]Zackaryelfor some reaszons I don't see any of u guys on d3dev
03:10.21WyngaleHmm
03:10.34WyngaleI'm on #D3dev
03:11.03[wKy]Zackaryelsynirc yes ?
03:11.10WyngaleCan't see you as well
03:11.16[wKy]ZackaryeloO
03:11.18WyngaleI'm on Rizon
03:11.47WyngaleThere is #D3SE #D3 #D3dev ;p
03:12.13WyngaleI think they have the same channels on diff servers.
03:12.17WyngaleNot sure though
03:13.25[wKy]Zackaryeljust got in
03:13.33[wKy]Zackaryeli was on synirc
03:13.56Ulfheonarwhen did d3dev and diablofans become related.
03:14.16[wKy]Zackaryelit's not and never did afaik
03:18.21Ulfheonareh it'll be nice when something new diablo beta related comes out.
03:18.40WyngaleYeah.
03:18.42Ulfheonarwhether it's blizzard announced closed beta, or the d3dev group stabalizing a server.
03:18.57WyngaleI just want anything..
03:19.23UlfheonarI'm starting to find out that the D3 community kinda sucks.
03:19.59MANWITHABEARDI posted a pic of my Diableard on the forums, and just ended up getting trolled.
03:20.05Wyngale...
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03:20.32WyngaleThat's what every community mainly becomes more often.
03:20.38MANWITHABEARDYeah.
03:20.46WyngaleTHESE days*
03:20.52MANWITHABEARDOne guy was like "How'd you get your beard to grow between your eyebrows!"
03:20.56MANWITHABEARDand I was like >:/
03:20.58Wyngale...
03:21.03WyngaleWhat the hell.
03:21.19MANWITHABEARDhttp://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3123038866
03:21.21MANWITHABEARDthat's my thread.
03:21.22MANWITHABEARDlol
03:21.40MANWITHABEARDI have a monk beard right now.
03:21.47WyngaleLol, looks cool ;D
03:21.56WyngaleYeah, that's alike
03:22.22MANWITHABEARDYeah I sent it via email to the diableards thing for facebook.
03:22.32MANWITHABEARDbecause it seems like everyone who's been posted on facebook also has a beta key.
03:22.38MANWITHABEARDso maybe...
03:22.56WyngaleMaybe luck will smile upon your beard. :)
03:23.07MANWITHABEARDhoping.
03:23.19MANWITHABEARDthis damn thing is soo itchy half the time.
03:23.25MANWITHABEARDand I have to keep it until d3 gets released >:/
03:23.47WyngaleWell, that should be complicated for sure. :p
03:24.13MANWITHABEARDYeah, considering d3 doesn't have a release date yet.
03:24.13MANWITHABEARDlol
03:24.26WyngaleYes, exactly! ;P
03:24.40MANWITHABEARDI've been growing this beard since about June. and I figure D3 will release in December.
03:25.46WyngaleMm, so, it's around 2-3 months since then.
03:25.51MANWITHABEARDyeah
03:25.56MANWITHABEARDwhich isn't much
03:26.06MANWITHABEARDI'm sort of blessed in the way of follicular fortitude
03:26.11Wyngale:)
03:26.19MANWITHABEARDMy 5'o'clock shadow shows up about noon.
03:26.22MANWITHABEARDlol
03:26.27Wyngale:P
03:26.44MANWITHABEARDbut for some reason, I can't grow hair on the side of my lips.
03:26.56MANWITHABEARDso my mustache never connects to the beard. so it looks a little strange
03:29.24WyngaleWell, still it's nice and looks very monky stylish ;)
03:30.30MANWITHABEARDYeah, I like it. It's my gotta play Diablo now beard.
03:32.07WyngaleHehe
03:33.12MANWITHABEARDi'm so glad that the Grandfather is coming back in Diablo 3.
03:41.39WyngaleYeah, it's nice to have some classic named weapons, hope they will bring something else.
03:42.11MANWITHABEARDhttp://www.diablofans.com/topic/28441-items-from-diablo-ii-reappearing-in-diablo-iii-item-spoilers/
03:42.16MANWITHABEARDthere's a whole list of stuff coming back
03:43.15WyngaleAye, Immortal Kings.. Natalya's Tal Rasha etc. etc. :)
03:43.38WyngaleSoJ
03:48.48WyngaleAlright, time for me to take a nap, bye everyone.
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04:10.30azzkikr_i can feel it in my loins
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05:13.00KroBalol Tamer
05:13.06KroBawatching you on spindrjr's thread
05:13.10KroBastream*
05:18.32FlambeauWhat does "building our shadowfort" mean on http://twitter.com/#!/diablo3dev
05:18.56KroBait means they are erecting a castle of darkness
05:19.09FlambeauAwesome.
05:19.11MirtheNsounds kinky
05:20.40FlambeauI'm impressed they were able to do it at all, was their less decoding and scripting required because it was beta? or will programers be able to crack the complete release of the game?
05:21.08FlambeauAnd by crack I mean create a local server which the game recognises.
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05:25.23FlambeauNo programmers amongst us?
05:25.34FlambeauAny internationals? I am Australian.
05:29.44CesFlambeau I have absolutely no idea what it means
05:30.13CesIt could mean anything
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05:30.59AkaRainerlook alive guys
05:31.21FlambeauNews?
05:31.29KroBakids alive, do the five
05:31.44AkaRaineri'm so bored. i want to play a game :T
05:31.59FlambeauAkaRainer, come League of legends.
05:32.05AkaRainerplayed. Finished.
05:32.07AkaRainerLol
05:32.38AkaRaineri pretty much stopped playing after skarner came out
05:32.43AkaRaineror h/e u spell his name.
05:33.04AkaRainerplayed Deus ex recently. beat that.
05:33.20AkaRainer3 games i'm waiting for to come out.
05:33.28AkaRaineror wanting to play.
05:33.33AkaRainerPoE, D3, and CS GO
05:33.35FlambeauBF3, D3, and Heroes VI.
05:33.48FlambeauWhat is PoE
05:33.53AkaRainerpath of exile.
05:33.58AkaRainera aRPG
05:34.05AkaRainerlike d3
05:34.09AkaRainerthey're in beta atm as well
05:34.12FlambeauWhen does CS GO come out?
05:34.26AkaRainerunknown yet, but the producer said hopefully
05:34.28AkaRainerearly next year
05:34.30AkaRainerso Q1 prob
05:34.44AkaRainerand betaf ro CS GO should be around oct.
05:34.48AkaRainerthis year of course
05:34.54AkaRainerbeta for*
05:35.07FlambeauWhat changes did they make?
05:35.18FlambeauNew Graphics?
05:35.20AkaRainerum.. from what i know..
05:35.29AkaRainerthey're using portal 2 engine
05:35.33AkaRainerso.. yes fairly new graphics
05:35.40AkaRainercompared to cs source and cs 1.6
05:35.58AkaRainerthey're trying to make it so that both cs 1.6 and css players will like the game
05:36.03AkaRainerand new players as well
05:36.13AkaRainerthey're keepig like.. 6-7 original maps
05:36.22FlambeauDe_Dust 2!!
05:36.27AkaRainerde_dust, dedust2, office..
05:36.29AkaRainernuke..
05:36.33AkaRaineritaly probably
05:36.34AkaRainercubble not sure
05:36.48AkaRainerum.. they're implementing a matchmaking system
05:36.54AkaRainerso u dont need to go into IRC to find scrims
05:37.00AkaRainerthat will be interesting
05:37.29AkaRainersome new weapons..
05:37.52AkaRainerfrom watching the videos (gameplay) and some other resources
05:37.52plashFlambeau: Actually the gist of it is that the binary for battle.net had unobfuscated protobuf files
05:38.31AkaRainerthe developers invited a lot of CSS aspects to the game, and some cs 1.6
05:38.48AkaRaineri really perfer cs 1.6 more than css, so... i hope it'll be different when the game actually releases
05:39.21AkaRaineris everyone else in the channel dead? lol
05:39.39KaulovWho wants butt sex?
05:39.40Kaulov;3
05:39.55Flambeauplash: for battle.net or the beta client?
05:40.34plashFlambeau: Obviousl the beta client
05:40.41plashIt has a battle.net library
05:40.48plashIt's just for comm
05:49.54AkaRainerso you guys been watching the streams?
05:51.28plashYeep
05:51.30plashToo much.
05:51.38AkaRaineryea no kidding
05:51.59AkaRaineris it just me.. or does the DH compared to every other class seem weak..
05:52.16KaulovDH seems fine
05:52.19AkaRainereven though this is just.. in the beta
05:52.21KaulovJust a distance class
05:52.32AkaRainercuz i've noticed that most classes
05:52.38AkaRainerbarb monk and wizard in particular
05:52.41AkaRainercan 1-2 shot mobs
05:52.47AkaRainerand the DH takes awhile
05:52.52Kaulovx.x;
05:52.59KaulovBECAUSE YOU TOUCH YOURSELF AT NIGHT
05:53.26AkaRainerhopefully items in late game will make up for it
05:54.33plashDH is le fail
05:54.48plashI usually play archer classes, but no DH for me
05:54.52plashDon't like it at all.
05:56.08KaulovWhy do you guys watch those retarded streams?
05:56.18KaulovIt ruins the beta for you if you get in
05:56.22KaulovPlus it's torture
05:56.26plashmeh
05:56.27KaulovJust makes you want it more
05:56.45KaulovGo play some D2 and wait patiently
05:56.49MicronutDH def was the worst class
05:56.56AkaRainerexactly..
05:57.03AkaRainerits sad, cuz i wanna play DH
05:57.05plashOdds are barely anyone will get in beta
05:57.10plashI'd rather see it now
05:57.16Micronutme too it was what i wanted to play
05:57.26KaulovWell, have fun torturing yourself then
05:57.38plashIt's quite exciting really, doesn't bother me too much
05:57.56plashAlso my first thought when they released the DH class was "oh god they're gonna fuck it up"
05:58.02plash:|
05:58.21AkaRainersomeone also mentioned in the forum that... i think they noticed that the DH resources run out pretty quick compared to other class's resources
05:58.25AkaRaineri kinda noticed it as well
05:58.38plashWell the DH does have a split bubble :L
05:58.48plashAnd you barely even use the blue one
05:59.01AkaRainerthat move..
05:59.05AkaRainerwhat was it called again..
05:59.16Micronutits just not on par with the wiz for a range class
05:59.19AkaRainervault
05:59.26AkaRainertakes up like 1/3 of the blue bubble lol
05:59.33AkaRaineru can only vault 3 times, then ur done
05:59.35plashWizard's Electrocute is fucking nuts
05:59.45AkaRainerfrost nova is fucking nuts
05:59.46AkaRainerlol
05:59.48plashAs well as disintegrate
05:59.50Micronutthats prob gonna get toned down a bit
06:00.02AkaRainerit freezes thing for like 3 seconds
06:00.09plashYou can shoot across like 2.5 screens with Electrocute
06:00.40plashAnother fun one is the jump thing on the Barb
06:00.45Micronutthe monk was def the surprise class for me i enjoyed that prob the most
06:01.03plashYeah Monk looks good
06:05.56AkaRaineragree
06:06.09AkaRainerthat dashing move seems a bit OP
06:06.25AkaRainerdoes it cost any spirit? and whats the cooldown on it... if it does have any?
06:06.37AkaRainercuz i remember seeing a player spam that
06:06.39AkaRaineror use it constantly
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06:23.00KroBahttp://i.imgur.com/ocz9V.jpg
06:23.45traviismonsterlol
06:27.18AkaRainerhaha
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06:38.31Solttuuany news about the beta?
06:39.54KroBawhy don't you check NEWS SITES
06:40.47Solttuunot all the news are in diablofans site
06:41.18KroBayou'll notice i pluralised the word site to form sites
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07:32.59SyncnessKroBa, trolling like a boss.
07:33.22KroBaif you say so
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08:00.35numbieso
08:00.48numbiepress&fansites get beta first
08:00.50numbieor what
08:01.56LuminUh huh
08:02.05numbiei see 'open'CB  9/30
08:05.27KroBaopen closed beta
08:05.32KroBawhat a cunning linguist
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08:07.07LuminBlizzard wouldn't ever really need open betas anymore
08:07.19LuminSadly, for the masses
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08:40.11Fischeryo
08:40.17Fischeru guys seen the banner cracks?
08:52.04Solttuuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk8XCT-f3dc
08:52.15Solttuuclosed beta this week!!
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09:01.14Fischeru tried banner crack ?
09:01.32Solttuuwhat banner crack?
09:02.30Fischerthe banner crack
09:02.33Fischer:)
09:02.37Fischermakes u able to make banners
09:02.41Fischerin the client
09:02.46Fischerlike char screen
09:03.27Solttuulol
09:05.04Fischerso
09:05.06Fischerclosed beta
09:05.13Fischeri think force knows when it will start
09:05.16Fischerhe says he has sources
09:05.19Fischerso tuesday
09:05.58Solttuu<napoleon>yeah my current best guess is tuesday (wednesday morning german time)
09:06.08Fischery
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09:13.28Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PvrgG4T0yU
09:16.10LuminA lot of people know when it will start :P
09:16.16Fischerhttp://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3123317400?page=2
09:16.19LuminJust sayin'
09:16.21Fischerpunch this guy in the face
09:16.35Lumin(FEEDBACK) World of Diablocraft.
09:16.36Luminlol
09:16.40LuminThat was bound to happen though
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09:23.33Raveyist... /rant I want Diablo release news /endrant
09:24.14RaveyistI liked the blog about hunter resource though
09:24.19Fischeri hate beta testers
09:24.21Fischerstupid fucks
09:24.32numbieso u dont wanna test the game
09:24.52numbiebecause you would hate yourself
09:25.07RaveyistI was teaching my cousin how to play D2 the other night
09:25.13Fischerno
09:25.17RaveyistFun times
09:25.26FischerSYNDICATE RELEASED OMG
09:26.01Fischerhttp://www.starbreeze.com/news/pressrelease_20100322-%281%29.aspx
09:26.02FischerFUCK YES
09:27.07RaveyistHmmm
09:27.57RaveyistGAME website updated it's D3 release details
09:28.10RaveyistFrom TBC to 2011
09:28.13Revinthat is good news
09:28.46RaveyistWell I would say they already know release
09:29.04RaveyistCos they will need to start advertising pretty soon
09:29.05Revinthey knew for a while
09:29.14Revinjust wanted to stay safe
09:29.21Revinit would make sense to release for christmas
09:29.29RaveyistYeah
09:29.33KroBahow'd your cousins go Raveyist
09:29.35KroBaget into it
09:29.40Revinhow many kids would beg their parents for D3
09:29.43KroBaquestionmark
09:29.44Revinbest christmas ever
09:29.49RaveyistKro,
09:29.54RaveyistShe did well
09:30.09RaveyistShe made a sorceress though
09:30.26KroBawhat about her sister, did they both get into it
09:30.55RaveyistOh no, just the elder
09:31.10RaveyistShe works so she bought it with her money
09:31.43RaveyistBut no doubt daddy will buy at least one copy of the game
09:31.55RaveyistThey all play wow amazingly
09:32.07KroBaouch
09:32.20RaveyistI know
09:32.57RaveyistI think thier dad will be happy to save £20 a month at least on subscriptions
09:33.36KroBalol quid
09:33.39KroBaget a real currency
09:33.56Fischerfkin F&F testers
09:33.57RaveyistI think once d3 opens though, players will be shocked on the amount of content wow provides
09:33.59Fischerare so brainlessly stupid
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09:34.22RaveyistWhat's wrong now Fischer ?
09:34.26Fischer"omgzzz.. beta is too easy.. omg.. gold drops too much... omg skills are not costumized very much... where is runes? omg... where is more content?"
09:34.28FischerJUST STFU
09:34.34Fischer-.4334-5.34Q
09:34.42Fischermiserable fucks.. just be glad u got the beta at least
09:34.51RaveyistLol
09:34.54Fischer:P
09:35.04RaveyistChill man
09:35.09Fischerthey are crying about something that is likely to change 90 %
09:35.12RaveyistYour time will come
09:35.13Fischer= braindead
09:35.33RaveyistWell I seen a guy moan about level 13 cap
09:35.43Fischeri wanna punch them in the mouth
09:35.48Fischerfor even complaining about the beta
09:35.50RaveyistBut I kind of get his point
09:35.56Fischerwhat?
09:36.03Fischerare u joking me ?
09:36.12AstrapoysFischer +1
09:36.17RaveyistYou should have unlimited cap to see if overpowered chars break the game
09:36.41Fischer,,,'
09:36.50Fischerthe purpose of the beta... IS NOT CONTENT
09:36.52FischerFFS
09:36.57Fischerwhy do most ppl not understand this
09:37.15Fischerthere is a reason the cap is 13... beta is not meant to test content.. they have 9000000 QUality testers internal for that
09:37.22FischerBETA is for HARDWARE and stability ONLY
09:37.25FischerGRRRR it gets me mad
09:37.30Fischerwhen ppl dont understand this...
09:37.31Fischer:)()
09:37.49Fischerthey should lose their F&F access.. for just asking that
09:37.50Fischerimo
09:37.55Fischernot true fans
09:38.26AstrapoysFischer totaly agree with you
09:38.30Lyprinindeed
09:38.39Lyprinspoilt F&F testers :/
09:39.03Fischerye
09:39.09Fischerthey should stfu and just be glad to be in the beta lol
09:39.20Lyprinyeap :D
09:39.28RaveyistHah
09:39.40Fischercos.. they are 90 % other ppl more deserving than they are
09:39.43Fischerlike me
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09:59.37Astrapoysa kid is playing at d3stash pfff
10:02.42Lyprinno :/
10:02.45Lyprinare you serious?
10:02.46Lyprina kid?
10:02.56Lypringonna look now
10:03.02Astrapoysyeap
10:03.18Lyprinomg
10:03.20Lyprin:/
10:03.27Astrapoysyeah...
10:03.40Lyprinwell that just spoils my day
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10:04.01Astrapoysi know the feeling
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10:07.15Lyprinis he even old enough to play d3 :P
10:07.57Fischeromg..
10:07.59Fischera kid playing now
10:08.01Fischer_¤%:#_%
10:16.15Fischerah not a kid
10:16.16Fischera girl
10:17.27LyprinpP
10:17.29LyprinoO
10:17.30Lyprinwhat?!
10:19.36Syncness..
10:19.37SyncnessFischer
10:19.38Syncnessexcuse me?
10:19.41Syncnesso.o
10:20.09Fischer?
10:20.42FearOfTheDarkthe beta started in a few days? i don't believe that..
10:20.52Fischerit will
10:21.26FearOfTheDarkBashiok says in the last reply - "And before you ask, no we don't know when the full closed beta will begin. Testing is going really well so far but we do have some issues we want to try to resolve first,that is on 9.9.2011.
10:21.36Furyformit will likely be within the next week
10:21.54Furyformnot guaranteed but pretty likely unless they have a LOT more F&F to let in
10:21.56FearOfTheDarki not believe the beta released soon..on september at all
10:22.03Luminlol
10:22.16FearOfTheDarktheir friends & family maybe kill yourself..
10:22.19FearOfTheDarkfuckin idiots
10:22.47FearOfTheDarkstupid company with stupid policy
10:22.57Furyformthat sentence before fuckin idiots, i couldn't figure out what you meant to say :/
10:23.00LuminDon't play the game, then :P
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10:23.37FearOfTheDarkLumin i play diablo 2 about 7-8 years..the stupid company blizzard make one game for 1000 years
10:23.43Furyformblizz isn't the only one who does friends and family testing either
10:23.49FearOfTheDarkmaybe i'm not alive to see another blizz game hah
10:23.50Luminlol
10:23.54Fischerforce has good sources
10:23.57Fischerand he says beta starts this week
10:24.04Fischerhe wouldnt say anything unless he was pretty certain
10:24.04LuminI have sources that say very much the same
10:24.15Fischerforce' sources > your sources
10:24.19Fischeras u dont run the biggest fansite
10:24.21Fischerso
10:24.24LuminHow do you know? :D
10:24.27Fischerand he talks to sixen
10:24.31Fischerwhich is the MVP of battle.net
10:24.35Fischertalks to bashiok all the time
10:24.35LuminOur sources might well be the very same..
10:24.37LuminO_o
10:24.39Fischerthey arent
10:24.41Fischer:)
10:24.41Fischertrust me
10:24.44FearOfTheDarkMVP?
10:24.48Luminlol
10:24.55Fischercommunity manager
10:24.57LuminThe people in this channel are so arrogant
10:24.58LuminWow
10:24.58Fischergreen text
10:24.58Furyformmvp dont mean anything besides making lots of well organized posts on the forums and helping the community as a whole
10:25.08Furyformit doesnt mean he gets special priveledges
10:25.10FearOfTheDarkLumin yes,because blizzard sux dude
10:25.18Fischerno but he gets to talk to blizz decs
10:25.19Fischerdevs*
10:25.24Fischerand sixen is very well known by blizz
10:25.27Fischeraswell as force
10:25.30LuminUh huh..
10:25.34FearOfTheDarkonly that company make a game 1 for 10 years and don't have release date for any game!
10:25.44LuminI assume they are the only two people in the entire community that talk to the Blizzard guys
10:25.49LuminI guess that is just how it goes then...
10:25.51FearOfTheDarki see on gamespot,they have a games for month/2013 year
10:26.08Furyformlumin have you seen Fischer's past arguments? he's always arrogant :p
10:26.17Fischerlol
10:26.20Fischerhow so ?
10:26.28FearOfTheDarkwhy we must like blizzard,they sucks..
10:26.29LuminOh
10:26.34FuryformFearOfTheDark: why do you follow blizzards games and releases if you hate them so much
10:26.37LuminI am not here to argue with him at all
10:26.47FearOfTheDarkFuryform i'm only diablo fan
10:26.47LuminHe seems way too biased
10:26.55ekcolnovkolhaters gonna haet
10:26.57ekcolnovkolo _o
10:26.57FearOfTheDarkwow/warcraft/sc is stupid old games
10:27.01Fischerthe point is.. force is wellknown to be on target with info.. and he wouldnt just say that he is very certain the beta will start this week.. due to his sources
10:27.04Furyformi didn't say you were here to argue Lumin, was just using it as a reference :)
10:27.06FearOfTheDarksc2 graphic is too old for 2010 year..
10:27.09Fischerhow is that arrogant.. im just quoting what force sys
10:27.19Fischeri'll take force' word over yours anyday Lumin
10:27.23LuminWhat if we have the same sources, Fischer?
10:27.28Fischeryou don't.
10:27.34FischerI'm quite sure of it
10:27.36LuminOh, okay...
10:27.38Fischerand you cannot proof it
10:27.38SyncnessLumin, Fischer is a known trll
10:27.41Syncnesstroll*
10:27.43LuminAh
10:27.44Fischerhow so ?
10:27.45LuminWell then I will stop
10:27.47Fischer:)
10:27.48Luminit is fine
10:27.56Syncnessand FearOfTheDark, beta is definitely in September, so many sources confirm it
10:28.09FearOfTheDarkSyncness but blizzard not confirm it
10:28.09FuryformFischer is a failure of a troll imo, he gets trolled half the time :)
10:28.12FearOfTheDarkso..it's fake info
10:28.14FearOfTheDarkthat is..
10:28.17Fischerwhen you build the same credibility as force has Lumin .. then ill start trustign your word infront of force'
10:28.18Fischeruntil then.. nah
10:28.18SyncnessFearOfTheDark, Blizzard is one of those sources
10:28.28SyncnessI'm in a good mood, so I won't start killing your self esteem
10:28.29LuminYou don't even know who I am or what I do
10:28.36Fischeroh?
10:28.44FischerI guess you're jay wilson then?
10:28.47Furyformi know a general of what Lumin does, but i don't know what extent it goes to
10:28.47Fischerin disguise
10:28.48SyncnessTROLOLOLOL
10:29.03FearOfTheDarkif you're jay,you suck ;)
10:29.08Fischerlols
10:29.18FearOfTheDarki 'm sure that the collector's edition is stupid pack like sc2
10:29.31FearOfTheDarkblizz don't have any idea what is good for gamers and fans
10:29.40Fischeru call me a troll ? :D
10:29.42Fischerlook at FearOfTheDark  :D
10:29.46FischerTHATS a troll
10:29.47FuryformFearOfTheDark, do you realize that you won't change anybody's opinion within this chat about blizzard?
10:30.10Astrapoysso if Lumin was Jay.. then Jay is making PoE videos.. lol
10:30.22FischerPoE = :(
10:30.28Furyformaww Astrapoys you gave it away
10:30.28FearOfTheDarkFuryform it doesn't matter,that is my opinion,everyone has
10:30.40FischerPpl still into PoE ? lol
10:30.44Astrapoyshaha yeap
10:30.48Fischeramazing
10:31.05FearOfTheDarki don't know one thing..why forcesc2strategy give a fake info to users
10:31.07Fischerit looks so bad tho :P
10:31.09FuryformFearOfTheDark: your opinions fail to fill this rooms Carecup
10:31.11FearOfTheDarki'm waiting that game about many years..
10:31.22FearOfTheDarki'm 100% sure that the beta not released until 30 september
10:31.30Furyformpokes Carecup
10:31.33FearOfTheDarkthat is blizzrd dudes,they are sooo slowly
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10:31.41KroBait's not fake info
10:31.43KroBahe is just speculating
10:31.49KroBalike every fucking one else
10:31.54KroBaso shut the fuck up and make your own opinions
10:32.09FearOfTheDarkif you don't like me - ignore me ;]
10:32.45miiheya guys :)
10:32.48Astrapoysooh a fight! kill kill kill
10:32.50Astrapoys:P
10:32.51Furyformhey mii
10:33.01mii^_^
10:33.19Fischerluls
10:33.29Fischeri made an epic banner !
10:33.35miilets see!
10:33.36Fischerlooks pretty good so far
10:33.43Fischerok i'll take a screen
10:33.47mii:D
10:33.57FearOfTheDarkso dudes,we'll see the beta is released that week or not
10:34.12FearOfTheDarkbut that i said..i not believe before 30 september..maybe octomber
10:34.40FearOfTheDarkand the full game..around 2020.. ;]
10:34.54miinooooo
10:35.02miidont say thatt :(
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10:35.37FearOfTheDarkmii,everyone give a wrong unrecognized info for beta and full game
10:35.41FearOfTheDarkit's so stupid
10:36.35FearOfTheDarkFischer why you don't ask Sixen,if he a pvm maybe he know ?
10:37.21FuryformFearOfTheDark: have you been drinking, or are you always this ignorant :)
10:37.39FearOfTheDarkFuryform i don't drink/smoke,why?
10:37.53Revini doubt beta keys will be randomly selected, after all they need to test a wide range of system configurations, this is why they are gathering system info, so expect the majority of keys to be handed out to older and bare bones configurations
10:37.56Furyformi guess that means the latter then :o
10:38.04FuryformRevin: it's random
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10:38.15Furyformhaving certain specs won't give you any bonus weight
10:38.17FearOfTheDarkFuryform random hahaha
10:38.21FearOfTheDarkwhat it's a joke
10:38.25KroBait's random within their selection criteria
10:38.30SyncnessI can't stand that kid
10:38.30Revinthis is not a lottery, this is a beta test, they say random, but within a rang of configuration criteria
10:38.31FearOfTheDarkdon't trust a bliz things..
10:38.36FearOfTheDarkthey said random but it's not
10:38.50FearOfTheDarkeveryone knows if you have all bliz games you recieve the key
10:39.07Furyformyou realize that there are LOTS of players out there with PCs within that criteria right :)
10:39.17Fischerhttp://imageshack.us/f/220/bannerhgw.jpg/
10:39.19Fischerwhat u think ?
10:39.38Fischermaybe take away swords?
10:39.54Fischeror i can make it other colour ;)
10:40.10RevinFury: you dont understand what i'm saying, they will select a range of machines that say have 8800GT and lower cards or something like that and pick some random keys
10:40.19SyncnessLevel 12+ monk on enonis d3stassh stream
10:40.23Furyformi understand that Revin
10:40.27Fischermii:
10:40.32Revinif you have a fast video card you are going to be in the lowest possible selection bracket
10:40.36Furyformmultiple ranges, but my point still stands
10:40.42miihi :O
10:40.51SyncnessFor the love of god I hope having 7 blizzard games on 1 accounts makes it easier
10:41.12FearOfTheDarkSyncness i'm sure ...
10:41.22FearOfTheDarki have only diablo and my chance is zero
10:41.33Revinthis is their chance to test a wide range of older system coverage and theyw ill hand out most of they keys to old system specs just to make sure the game has a solid compatibility
10:41.39miiFischer?
10:41.46Revinthis means Windows XP and VIsta will get the majority of keys
10:41.47Furyformi think i saw a blue post that said if you have WoW or SC2, you are capable of being picked; if you have neither you're not going to be picked
10:41.57Revini was a game beta tester for nearly 7 years, i know this from experience
10:42.21Astrapoysi have only d2 too
10:42.27Fischermii: http://imageshack.us/f/220/bannerhgw.jpg/
10:42.31Fischerlook
10:42.41FearOfTheDarkFuryform haha see,the fucking company want to buy other stupid games to give away a key for another game
10:43.12miithat is a sexy ass banner :O~
10:43.18FearOfTheDarkwhy we must like another bliz bullshits
10:43.24FearOfTheDarki don't understand that
10:43.37SyncnessRevin, what difference does the OS make, shouldn't the computer specs be more important?
10:43.52Revinmakes a huge difference
10:43.59RevinDirect X limitations for once
10:44.02FuryformFearOfTheDark: you claim you're just sharing your opinion, yet you continue to use "we" and impose it on others
10:44.08Revinwindows xp is stuck at DirectX 9
10:44.14SyncnessAh, fair point!
10:44.28FearOfTheDarkFuryform ok right
10:44.43FearOfTheDarkFuryform what bliz game you like?
10:44.51Furyformall the ones i've played
10:45.57Revinthey also know the die hard community will run fast(er) machines, but the majority of sales will be for older generation machines, so they will focus on testing machines 2+ years old
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10:47.07Revineverything you submitted about your machine is stored in a nicely laid out database they can run a simple sql query to single out a brack of older systems with a specific config and randomly hand out keys
10:47.21Link|Workhello
10:47.23Revinbracket
10:49.41Furyformmy banner is going to be pink
10:49.58Link|Worknice*
10:49.58Link|Worknic
10:50.15Link|Worki heard theres a hacked exe out there that lets you into the banner designer
10:50.28Whiteman007u all know what color mine will bbe..
10:50.29FuryformFischer is playin with it
10:50.35Furyformblack, Whiteman007?
10:50.40Fischermy banner http://imageshack.us/f/220/bannerhgw.jpg/
10:50.42Link|Workyou mean Fiuscher
10:50.56Whiteman007lolfury
10:50.58Fischerand yes there is a crack
10:51.09Link|Workonly for banner though
10:51.12Fischerya
10:51.13Fischerfor now
10:51.17Link|Workthey havn't got the se out yet
10:51.23Fischerthey are wrorking on emulation as we speak
10:51.25Fischerand other cracks
10:51.27Link|Workjoder says he will push to git today though :D
10:51.39Fischernah
10:51.40Fischerold news
10:51.49Link|Workits on the d3dev twitter
10:52.02Furyformhow old was that tweet though
10:52.08Link|Workyesterday
10:52.15Link|Worknot the original joder tweet
10:52.35Link|Workdiablo3dev d3dev push from joder will come tomorrow, bnet was laggy ^^ 11 Sep
10:52.43Link|Workwhich is
10:52.47Link|WorkTODAY YAYAAYAY
10:52.50Furyformmine says 10 sep heh
10:52.54Furyformfor that tweet
10:52.58Link|Workhmm
10:53.01Link|Worktiemzones?
10:53.06Furyformso it should've been pushed yesterday :D
10:53.12Furyformya timezones musta done it
10:53.36Furyformwhether it meant today or yesterday tho, i'm sure it's been more than 24 hours since the post heh
10:53.42Link|Workyeah
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10:53.47ExaiterGood day
10:53.51Furyformohai
10:53.51Link|Workwell been waiting on joder's git for days
10:54.01Link|Workhe's about as good as blizzard with deadlines
10:54.15Link|Worklo Exaiter
10:54.22KroBayou're about as good as 95% of this channel with patience
10:54.36ExaiterWuhu, I'm one of the 5% other ones.
10:54.36Link|Workyes yes
10:57.19Furyformis 5% the patient group or the impatient group :p i'm guessing patient but want to be sure
10:57.21Whiteman007i got patience
10:57.22ExaiterI regret watchign the new Ao No exorsist in the middle of the night.
10:57.31ExaiterIt's the patient one :p
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10:57.50FuryformExaiter: he's gonna be human!
10:57.53Furyformlulz
10:57.56ExaiterHahaha
10:57.59ExaiterThe epp was freeking awsome
10:58.15Furyformya, the fillers were gettin a bit old last month
10:58.17ExaiterWhiteman, I think he's reffering to the other guy(s) who screamed I*LL SUCK UR DICK FOR UR BETAZ
10:58.21Exaiterhehe :p
10:58.26ExaiterIt's going compleatly off now
10:58.30Furyformyou mean Kaulov, Exaiter
10:58.35Furyform:P
10:58.40ExaiterIf that was him, yeh :P
10:58.56Exaitersacrificing Rin to open the gate, insane.
10:59.01ExaiterDid you see the preview to next ep?
10:59.05ExaiterSatan possesed Yukio :D
10:59.13Furyformlol way to spoil, ass ;)
10:59.16Furyformi watched the ep tho
10:59.17Exaiterwat?
10:59.22ExaiterThen it's no spoiler.
10:59.32ExaiterIt's at the end of the episode :p
10:59.34Furyformi tend not to watch the spoilers at the end of episodes of my anime tho
10:59.41ExaiterYou see like.. 10ish sec
10:59.43ExaiterAh... sorry mate :(
10:59.47Furyform:p i'll live
10:59.54Exaiter=p
11:00.15Furyformyou watch Manyuu Hikenchou?
11:00.29ExaiterNops
11:00.31ExaiterAny good+
11:00.32Exaiter?*
11:00.37Furyformya
11:00.41ExaiterGenre?
11:00.42Furyformif you like Oppai
11:00.47ExaiterOppai? :p Plot?
11:01.10Furyformcomedy action and breasts
11:01.13Furyformmany many breasts
11:01.16Furyformlol
11:01.19Furyformsamurai
11:01.23ExaiterEchii?
11:01.26Furyformvery
11:01.28Link|Workmmm naked female barb
11:01.29ExaiterAhh, the one with.. uh, kissing one gives em super power?
11:01.34Furyformno
11:01.37Exaiterhurr...
11:01.51Furyformthat was that samurai girls one
11:01.55Furyformit's ended already
11:01.58ExaiterYeh
11:01.59ExaiterI know =p
11:02.11Furyformmanyuu hikenchou is on ep 8
11:02.19ExaiterWorth watching?
11:02.22Furyformmaybe 9 by now, if not soon
11:02.23Furyformyes
11:02.36ExaiterHmm, I'll read some bout it laters
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11:02.50Furyformbut some episodes you either have to watch it annoyingly censored, low quality webcast, or wait for dvds
11:03.06Exaiterlol
11:03.07Exaiterbleh.
11:03.07Furyformso you might choose to watch it early next year for bd/dvd releases
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11:03.11Exaiter=/
11:03.58Furyformthe boobs they usually show, but sometimes they cut audio (moaning) or heavy groping
11:03.58Syncnesshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuOQ1S5KCYc&feature=related
11:03.58SyncnessLOLWTF
11:04.01Furyformit's all comedic though
11:04.14Exaiteryeh ofc, love ecchi humor
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11:05.00FischerRain of Corpses Corpses fall from the sky dealing {Script Formula 10} - [{Script Formula 10}+{Script Formula 11}] physical damage to nearby enemies.
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11:05.12Solttuuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLl4nT923uo --->seen this?
11:05.20ExaiterYeh
11:05.21ExaiterLooks awsome
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11:12.03Whiteman007wow wow wow who allowed this anime talk in my channel
11:12.19ExaiterWannabe sixen!
11:12.49Whiteman007na man was trolling u gotta laughh :P
11:13.04ExaiterTehe :p
11:15.06KaulovBETA?!
11:15.07Kaulov;-;
11:15.15KaulovILL SUCK YER DICK FOR BETAZ
11:15.50Furyformdon't you have more walking corpses to violate :)
11:15.54KroBaivan
11:15.55KroBayes?
11:15.59KroBadid you see the sunrise this morning?
11:16.02Whiteman007rofl futy
11:16.28FuryformKroBa talks to himself?
11:16.35KroBaKroBa does!
11:16.35Whiteman007Exaiter: yea i dont really like anime though only whos i have liked are case closed and avar the last airbender
11:17.18Furyformavatar the last airbender is not considered anime
11:17.20Furyform^^
11:17.56Whiteman007well cartoons to me are for the most part
11:18.37Whiteman007well is case closed "anime"??
11:18.49Furyformya
11:19.30Whiteman007i'm mad no more English dub
11:20.00Whiteman007i watched 5 season of that and tried to watch subed but voices :(
11:20.04Furyformholy fucksticks
11:20.10Furyformover 600 episodes lol
11:20.13Furyformhttp://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=anime&aid=266
11:20.37Whiteman007yea i seen 130 lol
11:20.40Whiteman007that 5 seaons
11:21.03Furyformi remember seeing just a few a looooooong time ago on cartoon network, but i never knew it was running that long in japan haha
11:21.16Whiteman007i want to watch but man the voices are soo weird and i am not a fast reader
11:21.27Whiteman007yea
11:21.49Whiteman007funamation WAS DUMB put it on at 2am PST adm 5am ESt
11:21.54Whiteman007nobody watched
11:22.59Whiteman007it worth it tho if u liekd it i would go watch
11:23.16Whiteman007and then theres also 6 ot 7 dubed movies
11:23.28Furyformbeing that funimation was the one who dubbed it, it's too difficult to find all the episodes for download with subs
11:23.49Furyformthey're the most aggressive with cease and desists
11:24.55Whiteman007? the 5 season that are dubed are or the 600 sub?
11:25.28Furyformthey send C&D for things they "might" purchase
11:25.43Furyformso everything is scattered as to who subbed what
11:26.40Kaulovdick sucking = beta for sure
11:27.11Furyformif beta is a std or virus, very much so
11:27.15Whiteman007i'm still confused fury
11:28.10FischerOMG... new post by bashiok http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3123037348... closed beta starts tomorrow !
11:28.17Furyformif funimation has rights or plans to purchase rights to any episodes of a show, they will send C&D mail to any fansub group that fansubs any episode from that show
11:28.22KaulovI call bull shit
11:28.23Furyformcause they're asses like that
11:28.30Kaulov..clicks anyways
11:28.34FischerXD
11:28.39FearOfTheDark500
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11:28.41FearOfTheDark:)
11:28.53Fischertrolololololol
11:29.21FearOfTheDarkFischer another joke maybe?
11:29.37Exaiterwat?
11:29.45ExaiterI can't see that he says' it starts tomorro' in that post ? :p
11:30.00FuryformExaiter: Problem?
11:30.01Fischerlook harder
11:30.01Kaulovnothing in bashi's post
11:30.04Fischerproblem?
11:30.07Kaulovsuggest beta tomorrow
11:30.11Kaulovyou damn troll
11:30.14Kaulov:\
11:30.14ExaiterForce also suggested.
11:30.16Fischerno it's there..
11:30.18ExaiterThis week.
11:30.22Fischerat the bottom
11:31.04ExaiterCould you qoute that ? :p
11:31.37Kaulovwhen you say "beta tomorrow"?
11:31.37Furyform[06:29:01] <Exaiter> This week. <- that?
11:31.49Kaulovdo you mean monday or tuesday
11:31.54ExaiterI'm confused.
11:32.05FuryformKaulov: beta is active tomorrow
11:32.09Fischertuesday
11:32.09Fischerofc
11:32.12Fischersince monday is today
11:32.17Kaulov-.-
11:32.19Fischer-.-
11:32.23Fischerproblem ?
11:32.25FearOfTheDarkFischer what is that fake info?
11:32.34ExaiterThe only problem here is you, fischer
11:32.36FearOfTheDarkstop bullshits please
11:32.36KaulovDid anyone find out if needing a WoW or SC2 game was false or not?
11:32.48Furyformi'll see if i can find the post Kaulov
11:32.57Fischeru mad?
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11:34.58Link|WorkFischer: wannaply beta tomrrow?
11:35.14SolttuuFischer was just trolling
11:35.53Fischery
11:35.58ExaiterMeh, sleepy. goin to get soem sleep
11:35.59ExaiterAfk guys.
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11:37.24NeoPhythegood morning
11:37.28FearOfTheDarkFischer maybe you're fuckin liar?
11:37.30NeoPhythefuck release that beta allready
11:37.39FischerYou mad, brah ?
11:37.51ExaiterI wonder how many votes a person has to have to get banned :d
11:37.55Exaiter'votes'
11:37.57Fischer5
11:38.00Link|WorkFischer is a fuckin G.
11:38.05FearOfTheDarkFischer no i'm not,you suck
11:38.09FischerG!
11:38.11SolttuuNeoPhythe check this --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk8XCT-f3dc
11:38.18Washithey haven't yet invited europeans to f&f
11:38.24Fischerthey have.
11:38.41FearOfTheDarkomg just shut the fuck up
11:38.51ExaiterHe has my vote, atleast.
11:38.54NeoPhythe@solttuu yeah i know its comiongthis week :P
11:38.59WashiFischer, haven't seen anyone
11:39.00FuryformFearOfTheDark likes bananas
11:39.00NeoPhythe@washi, theyh ave. all at the same time
11:39.18FearOfTheDarkFuryform nope
11:39.30cH3rswill european accounts be invited to beta too ?
11:39.35Link|Workyes
11:39.38NeoPhytheyes
11:39.45WashiNeoPhythe, well i haven't found anyone who's in yet
11:39.47cH3rsnice :)
11:39.52Fischerhttp://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/196838/ff-beta-eu-any-idea-when-that-will-start-/
11:39.55FuryformFearOfTheDark doesn't peel bananas before eating them, he just eats it allllll
11:40.30Iroquois|workwell theres no Eu server yet
11:40.32FearOfTheDarkFuryform me?
11:40.39Iroquois|workbut there is EUR F&F beta
11:40.55FearOfTheDarkdon't have eu f&f beta
11:40.57Washii know there is. but i dont know anyone who has been invited in yet :P
11:41.06FearOfTheDarkon the us forum make beta section,on eu forum don't
11:41.23Washiblizz eu employees are playing the beta.. but their friends/family probably not :P
11:42.08FearOfTheDarkthey played about 10 years..i want to release already that we all see the beta
11:42.09cH3rsyeah but i think we dont have on eu forums because they want their beta response in englisch only ... and with beta invited account we will be able to post in american forum
11:42.16Iroquois|workreason why theres no sub on the forum yet is because its not hosted on EU servers
11:42.17Furyformanybody currently know an EU player beta testing d3 and/or an EU that beta tested sc2?
11:42.24Iroquois|workthere are no eu servers for d3 yet
11:42.28Iroquois|workjust players from europe
11:42.36Iroquois|worka few german , some french and some spanish
11:42.37Iroquois|workthats it
11:42.43Link|WorkTHAT SUIT!
11:43.12FischerF&F beta eu has started meaning... eu players are invited
11:43.17Fischerto U.S servers
11:43.20Fischeris this hard to understand
11:43.21Fischer?
11:43.22Fischer:)
11:43.23FearOfTheDarkFischer shut the fuck up noob
11:43.25Link|Work)
11:43.28Fischer)
11:43.28Washibut none of them taken in yet? :P
11:43.31FearOfTheDarknobody likes you
11:43.34Fischerthey are
11:43.42Washiwell i haven't heard
11:43.43FearOfTheDarkyou suck idiot,do you understand?
11:43.43Fischerjust most americans streaming now
11:43.48Fischermany ppl dont stream..
11:43.50FearOfTheDarkfuckin liar
11:43.51FuryformFearOfTheDark: i have to admit Fischer is less annoying than you :)
11:43.52Fischerso u dont hear about it
11:44.01Link|WorkLOL
11:44.04FischerFearOfTheDark: why u do mad brah ?
11:44.05Fischer;D
11:44.09Washiwell.. no one has posted in eu forums and said he's in ?
11:44.12Fischerdo=so
11:44.13FearOfTheDarkFischer is make a role "i work on blizzard and know evrything"
11:44.17Iroquois|workmost of the EU players are still under press nda
11:44.21FearOfTheDarkyour sources = our sources
11:44.24FearOfTheDarkso shut up
11:44.26FischerWashi:  that's because.. there are no eu servers = no eu forums
11:44.29Link|WorkWashi: does this concern you?
11:44.33Fischereu players post only on us beta forums
11:44.36WashiFischer, general talk
11:44.39KaulovSo..
11:44.46Fischergeneral talk what?
11:44.47KaulovDo we need WoW or SC2 or not?
11:44.51Fischernot
11:44.52Iroquois|workthias tuesday will make the shithit the fan
11:45.13Iroquois|work@kaulov , loads of story's bout that. some say active sc23 or wow
11:45.22Fischeru dont need active.
11:45.29Iroquois|work@kaulov others say any game can do , and so does the battle net status
11:45.30Fischeru need any active game
11:45.32FearOfTheDarkFischer is a liar,don't trust him
11:45.33Fischerblizz said this
11:45.38FearOfTheDarkevery info he give is a fake or lie
11:45.42FearOfTheDarkhe don't know everything
11:45.42Fischeru mad brah ? :D
11:45.48Iroquois|workblizz said both @fisher
11:45.48FearOfTheDarkhe DON'T work on bliz
11:46.00FearOfTheDarkFischer one more time..NO,YOU SUCK
11:46.02FearOfTheDarkright
11:46.03FearOfTheDark?
11:46.04KaulovI'll suck their dicks for a beta
11:46.06FischerIroquois|work: yes but the most recent is that any game works
11:46.09cH3rsafter he she or it its "doesn't"
11:46.10KaulovThat's all I'm saying
11:46.24Fischerit even says in the Beta opt in FAQ....
11:46.28Fischerany game works for opt in
11:46.33Fischergo check it
11:46.37FearOfTheDarkFischer maybe you just shut up?
11:46.41Fischer:D
11:46.45Fischeru mad?
11:46.54FearOfTheDarkno,blow me :)
11:46.55Iroquois|workiuf you dont like some1 to talk just mute them, problem solved.
11:47.00Link|Workfischer send me that emblem exe brah
11:47.01Fischer:D
11:47.05Fischerok
11:47.10Iroquois|workemblem exe ?
11:47.13Kaulovyeah, for opt in. But what about meeting the requirements to be in the D3 beta? It's like opting in with a 7 year old Toshiba that's several outdated
11:47.18KaulovHe can sign up
11:47.18FearOfTheDarkIroquois|work it's not solved,he just give fake info
11:47.21Washiwhat it looks to me that the EU players haven't been invited to F&F yet :P
11:47.24FearOfTheDark"the beta start tommorow"
11:47.24Link|Worklets you make banners with beta client Iroquois|work
11:47.25Fischeri link it for u
11:47.26Kaulovbut it doesn't meet the requirements
11:47.28FearOfTheDark"i'm stupid liar"
11:47.30FearOfTheDark"blablabla"
11:47.30Link|Workty
11:47.37FearOfTheDark"i play with the barbi girl"
11:47.40FischerWashi: thats cos they dont stream
11:47.46FearOfTheDark"I listen nsync & backstreet boys"
11:47.50FearOfTheDark"i'm not a gay"
11:47.51Kaulovseverely*
11:48.02KaulovHe's a Brony
11:48.03Kaulov>_>
11:48.05FearOfTheDarkFischer shut up,the beta not released today/tommorow
11:48.06FearOfTheDarkso stf
11:48.09FearOfTheDarkstfu*
11:48.10Link|WorkWashi: im sure there's a blue post that says all F&F users have been invited
11:48.18Fischerthere is i linked it
11:48.19Fischerlol
11:48.20FearOfTheDarknobody want to hear your bullshits
11:48.23WashiLink|Work, i know
11:48.26FearOfTheDarkwhere is the  link noob
11:48.27FearOfTheDarkit's error 500
11:48.28Iroquois|workFearOfTheDark: tbh i think it will be tomorrow aswell
11:48.38FearOfTheDarkIroquois|work where is your sources
11:48.41Fischerhttp://www.mediafire.com/?rn4mge1y7ed65d2  Link|Work
11:48.42FearOfTheDarkthe blizzard don't confirm
11:48.43WashiLink|Work, but looks like they taking in usa players first
11:48.43FearOfTheDarkso?
11:48.47Link|WorkWashi: perhaps they are invited but their beta has't started
11:48.48Fischerjust overwrite same as before
11:48.49FearOfTheDarkFischer mediafire? hahahah
11:48.50FearOfTheDarkgo away
11:48.53Fischerlol
11:48.54Iroquois|workFearOfTheDark: purely speculating.
11:48.55Fischer?
11:49.00Link|Worki know they were turning on us hardware first
11:49.03FearOfTheDarkIroquois|work give info from bliz please
11:49.07FearOfTheDarkdon't say bullshits
11:49.10Link|Workbut everyone would be allowed to play on the us hardware
11:49.11FearOfTheDarkspeculationg..
11:49.18FearOfTheDarkbliz don't confirm = no beta
11:49.31FearOfTheDarkthis week,next week..there is no info for the beta
11:49.34FischerFearOfTheDark:  where are u from brah ?
11:49.46FearOfTheDarkFischer from a dead island
11:49.50Fischer:P
11:49.54Fischercool story brah
11:49.56FearOfTheDarki'm undead and rape you
11:50.05KaulovFearOfTheDark: You seem to be sucking more Blizzard dick than I do. :\ If you hadn't notice, Blizzard doesn't exactly go through with what they announce 99% of the time, nor do they really announce something before doing it. After all, F&F started before they even announced it
11:50.06KaulovSD
11:50.09KaulovSo*..
11:50.15WashiLink|Work, i've been added to f&f.. and many others who post in the eu forum saying they're not taken in yet
11:50.21Furyformi stopped following chat when Fischer and FearOfTheDark became #1 and #2 poster; have i missed anything?
11:50.42FearOfTheDarkKaulov at all we don't interested about f&f beta
11:50.44Iroquois|workso totally hope FearOfTheDark gets proven wrong
11:50.47Link|WorkWashi: wait say that again?!
11:50.59Iroquois|workAnyone else still reading the chineese forums ?
11:51.07Link|WorkFuryform: you missed nothing
11:51.15FearOfTheDarkKaulov i post last reply from Bashiok
11:51.21Link|Workthe datamining forums? @ Iroquois|work
11:51.24KaulovIt's an example. I know you don't give a shit for F&F, that doesn't change the fact F&F started for a day or two, THEN Blizzard announced it
11:51.25FearOfTheDarkhe sais "we don't know when the closed beta start"
11:51.30FearOfTheDarkso we don't know too
11:51.36Iroquois|workLink|Work: yeah the d163
11:51.42FuryformKaulov: they don't announce things till they're sure, if an error occurs it might change things a little bit; as far as F&F "beginning" early, i still believe those beta forum posts were strategic hype by the company
11:51.49FearOfTheDarkeverything is a fake info,force strategy want to watch our trailers  to make rating only
11:51.50FearOfTheDarkthat is
11:52.00Link|WorkIroquois|work: was pretty quiet over there before the weekend
11:52.20FearOfTheDarkthe beta not released tomorrow or this week
11:52.33FearOfTheDark99.9% sure
11:52.52WashiLink|Work, it just looks like eu f&f testers are in the last waves and not taken in to game yet :P
11:52.54Iroquois|workLink|Work: silence before the storm i hope... same as diablofans...so silent on the forums
11:52.56FearOfTheDarkand that i see it's too many bugs/errors/glitches to fix on the beta
11:53.03Solttuuwell if its not i think many people will stop watching they videos
11:53.05Furyformusing fake statistics only amplifies your arrogance FearOfTheDark
11:53.08FischerFuryform: Y U SAY I TORLL ? :(
11:53.16Link|WorkWashi: you have an F&F beta invite though?
11:53.20FuryformFischer: i like pancakes
11:53.28Fischerwill you make me some Furyform ?
11:53.35FischerMy ex used to make them for me :(
11:53.38Furyformif you come over, sure
11:53.41Fischerbut now..
11:53.46Fischerok brah.. where u live?
11:54.04Furyformtexas, look for the plumes of smoke in the air
11:54.07Furyformi'm near one of the fires
11:54.10Furyformlol
11:54.12FischerTexas... O_O
11:54.20Fischerthat's pretty far for pancakes bro
11:54.21FearOfTheDarkFuryform they DON'T have any trusted sources to say "the beta comes this week"
11:54.24WashiLink|Work, yea but blizz still needs to send invite
11:54.35FischerLink|Work: did u get the link to crackz banner?
11:54.43FearOfTheDarkthe one and only trusted sources is blizzard
11:54.47Furyformand you don't have any trusted sources to back up your false statistics, FearOfTheDark
11:54.55FischerSixen: is surprisingly silent these days... i think he has the beta and is playing ;)
11:54.59WashiLink|Work,the blizz workers just add their friends accoutns to "to be invited list" and then we wait until blizz invites us in
11:55.24FearOfTheDarkFuryform i don't give any false statistics?
11:55.29Iroquois|workFearOfTheDark: you dont have any sources that they wont release it either
11:55.59FearOfTheDarkFischer you think? hahaha rofl
11:56.00FuryformFischer: based on how he and force spoke about it, it's a good possibility; but if they were to openly say they do have it their status could be revoked since they are supposed to be media :)
11:56.14Furyform[06:51:03] <FearOfTheDark> the beta not released tomorrow or this week
11:56.15Furyform[06:51:16] <FearOfTheDark> 99.9% sure
11:56.16FearOfTheDarkhe played beta then bliz start f&f beta
11:56.23Link|WorkFischer: yeah thanks brah
11:56.30FearOfTheDarkFuryform yes,that is blizzard dude,they don't released this month maybe
11:56.35Washiah i saw first EU player who got in f&f beta now post on the forum
11:56.45FearOfTheDarkand the full game..march 2012..you'll see
11:57.00FischerFuryform: hence why he is silent :)
11:57.15FearOfTheDarki want to play full game within 1 min but no way..we must wait..
11:57.21FischerFuryform: and i definitely think force knows more than he is willing to say...as he said in his cast... he is VERY confident that beta will start this week
11:57.26Link|Workwashi
11:57.28Washihttp://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/2624788183
11:57.30Fischerthats all he can say other than flat out saying it will
11:57.30Iroquois|workIs there any news on the private server thing ?
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11:57.48Fischeryes
11:57.55Link|Worknone good
11:57.58Link|Worklol
11:58.01Furyformcharacter creation and banner editing so far is all that i've heard
11:58.08Fischerthats not emulation work
11:58.09Fischerthats crack
11:58.18Fischertwo different things they dont work together
11:58.26FearOfTheDarkFischer knows everything..
11:58.26Link|Workyeah theyve sorted all the packets for character creating, which is part of SE
11:58.31FischerI know alot.
11:58.32FearOfTheDarkhe is magician
11:58.34FischerBecause I read alot
11:58.35Fischer:)
11:58.37FearOfTheDarkhe work on blizz
11:58.41Fischerunlike most noobs i do my research
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11:59.03FuryformFearOfTheDark: may i ask your age?
11:59.05FearOfTheDarkyou read and talk only with fake info
11:59.10FearOfTheDarkFuryform no?
11:59.12Fischerirorly? ;D
11:59.35FearOfTheDarkdo you know my ID Card number and credit card?
11:59.37FuryformFearOfTheDark uses more fake info when he types than Fischer does
11:59.49FearOfTheDarkFuryform i don't say any fake info
11:59.52FearOfTheDarkthe beta not released soon
11:59.56FearOfTheDarkthat's it the situation
12:00.04FearOfTheDarki trust to bashiok
12:00.10Furyformand the never ending cycle continues
12:00.11Iroquois|workam i the only one who muted both Fischer and FearOfTheDark ?
12:00.13FearOfTheDarknot a startegy porn sites
12:00.19Furyformprobably not Iroquois|work
12:00.28FischerJoder and spht are the main coderes for the emulation
12:00.31Furyformi keep their messages up for when i want to amuse myself
12:00.53FearOfTheDarkFischer so?
12:01.07FearOfTheDarkFuryform don't rub your cock on my messages please
12:01.12FearOfTheDarki know that you're homo ;)
12:01.26Furyformwho said i was a guy?
12:01.53FearOfTheDarkwhatever
12:02.15FearOfTheDarkFischer so,what is the deal of joder and sphathhtas
12:02.20FearOfTheDarkthey blow dicks for beta?
12:02.20FischerFuryform: you're a girl?
12:03.01FearOfTheDarkFischer?
12:03.32FearOfTheDarkhttp://www.diablofans.com/blizz-tracker/topic/197426/will-the-beta-be-released-in-europe-the-same-time
12:03.41FearOfTheDarkread this all haters in room
12:03.44FearOfTheDarkStill no updates about the Beta launch, we'll gladly share any new info about this as soon as possible.
12:03.47Washithere are no haters here
12:03.59FearOfTheDarkthat i said..the beta NOT coming soon
12:04.14FearOfTheDarktalk as you want..
12:04.15KaulovHey, is it possible we'll be fighting Baal as a special hidden thing? Like Ubers or some shitr
12:04.17KaulovShit*
12:04.24FearOfTheDarkgive fake info and etc..
12:04.25Washiit looks like they just let the first EU f&f testers in the game today
12:04.39FuryformWashi: there is one hater here, FearOfTheDark
12:05.07FearOfTheDarkFuryform i'm not hater,i hate only bliz ;]
12:05.10FearOfTheDarkthat's different
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12:06.51FischerWashi: why u say that?
12:07.16WashiFischer, say what?
12:07.25Fischereu only now getting in
12:07.28Fischersource?
12:07.55WashiFischer, today is first time i see EU tester post in the eu forum
12:08.06Fischerok
12:08.30Fischermaybe
12:08.37Fischerit was not enabled on eu forums
12:08.40Fischerbut on u.s
12:08.43Fischerso they can not post
12:08.46Fischerbut still play it
12:09.09Washiyes.. but they post in the general discussion
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12:16.10Furyform[07:08:24] * FearOfTheDark has left #diablofans <-- ME GUSTA
12:16.37Washi:)
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12:17.01Washihitting enter after each word is kinda hard to read
12:19.28Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk8XCT-f3dc&feature=channel_video_title
12:20.10Whiteman007they prob setting up oress now or been doing it
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12:29.25Astrapoyskid still plays and im not grrrr
12:30.00Fischernot a kid
12:30.02Fischerand its a girl
12:30.45Astrapoysits a kid
12:31.18Astrapoysgirls are kids too you know
12:31.20Astrapoys:P
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12:35.56Furyformmurders purl
12:35.59FuryformReelix is a banana
12:38.20WyngaleHail to teh Reelix~
12:38.44Iroquois|workwill press beta be sepperate from closedopen beta ?
12:39.33FuryformIroquois|work: no, the press is just guaranteed invites but we play in the same pool
12:40.02Wyngaleyeah, i guess i've seen that somewhere..
12:40.14WyngaleI mean, Furyform is right.
12:43.48SmithFury: question, has the press already received emails about their beta spot? Or is it like nobody knows which press websites will get their keys?
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12:44.07Furyformthe press that will be getting keys knows who they are
12:44.24Furyformblizz did confirmation emails with them a few weeks ago so they would know what accounts to flag as press
12:44.31Smithok
12:44.42Reelixyawns
12:45.15Smithso i guess no beta for me then... a friend works in a gaming news site but i dont think they ever received any kind of blizzard email about the beta yet
12:46.18Fischermy god force speaks fast at sc2 casting lol
12:47.42FuryformSmith: it's possible there are some accounts already flagged that they didn't need to ask about, but good luck to you in the random selection either way :)
12:48.08Iroquois|worki know bout 10 people in beta opt, i really hope atleast one of em gets in...
12:48.32Smithyeah i musnt forget about the random selection. However i got chosen for the cataclysm beta, so i think i used my "roll" with that :(
12:48.33Iroquois|workim thinking bout getting 10 more starcraft accoutns for 2.99eur.
12:48.38Iroquois|workjust so i got 10 more chances
12:48.53Furyformlast beta i was in was wrath
12:49.04Iroquois|workive never had beta before
12:49.11Smithand i was in the diablo 2 stress test back then
12:49.24Iroquois|workthen again, ive only been opted infor diablo since its possible
12:49.27FischerIroquois|work:  where u get those?
12:49.29Fischerfor 3 eur
12:49.33Iroquois|workonline
12:49.38Fischerwhere
12:49.42Fischerlink site
12:49.44Iroquois|workdno link, their on my laptop
12:49.47Iroquois|workthink it was g2play
12:49.48Fischerwtf
12:49.52FuryformIroquois|work: that's a lot of battle.net accounts
12:50.11Iroquois|workid gladly pay 30eur to get in to beta
12:50.43Smitheven if you have 1000 accounts it is possible that you do not get any beta spots
12:51.07Iroquois|worki know
12:51.10Smithnever underestimate the gods of rng
12:51.11Iroquois|workbut spreading chances
12:51.19Smiththey are evil...
12:52.19Furyformpersonally, i think there will be enough people that don't play consistently that blizz will do 3+ waves of invites
12:52.35Smithhm
12:52.44Smithits possible
12:52.53Smithi dont think the beta will last too long though
12:52.57Smithcouple of weeks
12:53.01Smithtops
12:53.01Iroquois|workim bored of the movies allready
12:53.02Smithimo
12:53.05Iroquois|workso will the game get borin
12:53.05Iroquois|workg
12:53.13Iroquois|workbut just to make it worth the fucking wait
12:53.15Fischerforce says on starcraft 1 commentary
12:53.16Furyformlvl 13 limit and only a third of act 1 will bore a bunch of the people who have only ever played WoW
12:53.20Smithevery game gets boring at some point
12:53.22Fischerthat next week we will be covering beta diablo 3
12:53.27Fischerhe knows when it starts :p
12:53.28Iroquois|worki hate it that some popl dnt ever look and get an inv, and all of us posting on all the forums dnt get one
12:53.45Smithman believe me i do check :D
12:54.00Smithoh you mean in general, yeah
12:54.02Iroquois|worki think ive spend more time on Dfans then i have in any of the starcraf gamers
12:54.10LuminDare I say it again? Many people know when its going to start but aren't allowed to share that information yet O_o
12:54.21Smithi agree with lumin
12:54.30Fischerno not directly allowed to say it
12:54.33Fischerbut suggest it..
12:54.38Smiththre are people in the world that know what Titan is...
12:54.42Fischerforce more than suggested it. .without actually saying :)
12:54.44Smithand cant say a thing
12:54.44Furyformpersonally i think force said too much
12:54.46LuminSure, lots of suggestions going around O_o
12:54.46Furyformlol
12:54.48Fischerso chances are it will start this week are very high
12:54.53Furyformbut that's not for me to judge
12:55.01Fischeri think force said too much too ye :P
12:55.24Fischerand sixen is playing right now
12:55.26FischerXD
12:55.29Iroquois|worki hope g2play will sell beta ketys soon :P ill be sure to get one
12:55.29Fischersecrets !
12:55.44Furyformummm
12:55.45Iroquois|work@sixen is playing for sure, but hes compiling a shit load of videos for us aswell now
12:55.55Fischery
12:55.57Furyformmost of the activations are direct to account Iroquois|work
12:56.01Fischerwednesday morning eu time
12:56.02LuminThen a patch hits and everything changes :P
12:56.03Fischeris my guess
12:56.22Iroquois|workAnyone tried dead island yet ? pretty good game
12:56.26Fischerno
12:56.29Fischerwhat is it about
12:56.35FuryformKaulov has, in between shoving many cocks in his mouth
12:56.36Iroquois|workunfortionat that all the new fps (aka ports of /to consoles) make me fucking dizzy
12:56.43Iroquois|workur on an island thats infected by zombies
12:56.49Iroquois|workits like a FPSMMORPG
12:56.56Furyformmmo?
12:57.00Furyformi thought it was single player
12:57.01Iroquois|workwell
12:57.03Iroquois|work4 player max
12:57.06Iroquois|workor more
12:57.09Iroquois|workdno, but atleast 4
12:57.11Smithlike borderlands?
12:57.14Iroquois|workyeah
12:57.16Iroquois|workbut with zombies
12:57.23Smithborderlands rules
12:57.26Iroquois|workand you can craft ur own weapons if u find recepies
12:57.29Smithi bought it recentlyu
12:57.33Iroquois|workand u got liek a talent tree ect
12:57.35KaulovILL SUCK YER DICK FOR A BETAZ
12:57.37KaulovI SWEAR
12:57.37Kaulov;-;
12:57.48FuryformKaulov: Iroquois|work has dead island
12:57.55KaulovPS3 or 360?
12:58.15Kaulovfu
12:58.16Kaulovgtg
12:58.16Kaulovlater
12:58.20Furyformtell him about your zombie gf you been pokin
12:58.26Furyformawh he left
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13:01.31Iroquois|workpc
13:01.34Iroquois|worklikea boss
13:02.13Smithaight got to head for work... le sigh. be back later dont miss me
13:04.09ReelixForce's video pretty much said that press are playing, but can't release :p
13:04.19Fischer:P
13:04.34Fischerand that he knows when the beta starts lll i.eg.. when they can release streams and vids
13:04.38Fischerand its this week
13:05.03Fischertues or wednesday
13:05.47LuminPress members that had access had their access revoked :P
13:05.54cH3rshope its tomorrow ... b/c when they are officially invited some others will also be ... e.g. ME ^^
13:05.58Lumin(if it was discovered that they had access)
13:06.30Iroquois|worktmorrow the fun will start
13:06.34Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oea34M9hGwE&feature=player_detailpage#t=1614s
13:06.36Iroquois|workaltho
13:06.39Fischerlisten
13:06.47Iroquois|workfor the dutch / EU that will be the day afer 2moz
13:07.18Fischer"and be preparing for the diablo 3 beta to be starting next week"
13:07.24FischerOOPS FORCE.. u just revealed ;D
13:07.36Fischer<3
13:07.59Fischerhe definitely knows
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13:08.16Whiteman007he sasin the purg that he has his sources
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13:09.00Iroquois|worki feel like seeing midgets fight
13:10.02Iroquois|workis RIFT any good actually
13:12.12Fischerlol all keys are out of stock Iroquois|work
13:12.14Fischeron g2play
13:12.22Iroquois|workhehe :D
13:12.48Fischer-.-
13:12.51Fischerany other sites
13:12.54Fischerthat sell battle.net keys?
13:13.01Iroquois|workits weird cause last night everything was in stock
13:13.05Iroquois|workloads
13:13.08Iroquois|workjust google
13:13.13Iroquois|worksome r expemnsive tho
13:13.28Iroquois|workDiablo III Digital Download Pre-Order 22eur :P
13:14.16Fischerlol
13:14.16Iroquois|workstarcraft II guest pass
13:14.22Iroquois|work1.99 :P
13:14.25Fischeruseless
13:14.39Fischerwhat sites
13:14.42Fischerthey must be safe.. and easy and cheap
13:14.46Fischerthere are not loads of sites.. pls hgelp me find :D
13:15.35WyngaleI think that's what he meant - http://www.g2play.net/store/Diablo-III-Digital-Download.html
13:15.37WyngaleBut..
13:15.46WyngaleNot like i'm gonna try it out for now.
13:15.55*** join/#diablofans Ezarto (~Ez@d54C158A2.access.telenet.be)
13:16.31WyngaleAnd prices can also change as they still out of stack, obviously.
13:17.09Fischerahh found it
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13:19.25Fischerany have experience with them ?
13:19.29Fischeronlinecdkeys
13:19.43Link|Workim writing my server emulator now :D
13:19.46Link|Workssick of waiting
13:22.22Iroquois|workg2play is ok, ive got my starwas account from there. only problem was that it only showed on us.battle.net and not on eu.battle.net , but after opening a ticket this was fixed
13:22.33Iroquois|workbut from what ive heard recently is that g2play is selling double keys
13:22.37Iroquois|workwhich sucks
13:23.00Iroquois|work@link, if u can you'd be awesome
13:23.12ReelixWyngale: Most places have pre-orders and such - None are real
13:23.14Fischerim buying 2 keys then
13:23.21Fischerfrom onlinekeys.com
13:23.23Fischerseems legit :D
13:23.31Fischerthey are 4 eur each
13:23.34Fischeru find no cheaper
13:23.41ReelixFischer: Yea, and totallylegitd2keysandsojs.com is also like... totally legit ;)
13:23.52Fischerthey have facebhook page
13:23.53Fischeri checked that site
13:23.58Fischer30.000 members
13:24.01Fischerand many say its safe
13:24.02Fischerso :)
13:24.11Iroquois|workemmm
13:24.16Iroquois|workonlinekeys.com dnst work lol
13:24.25Fischerhttp://www.onlinekeystore.com/StarCraft-Anthology-CD-KEY-Battlenet-Activation.html
13:24.29Fischersorry
13:24.30Fischer:P
13:24.31Fischerthis link
13:24.35ReelixFischer: Most scamming sites have facebook pages, 100,000+ members, and thousands of people saying it's legit - It's not that hard to set up - And the better it looks, the more money they make
13:24.37Fischer4 eur
13:24.39Fischergogo make 6 accs
13:24.48Fischeronly way to find out
13:24.53Fischeri lose 8 eur.. so what
13:24.54Fischerim rich ;)
13:25.04ReelixFischer: 8 * x,000 = Profit
13:25.17Fischeri can afford to throw away 8 eur
13:25.19Furyformlose 8 eur and what payment method?
13:25.20Fischer:D
13:25.20ReelixHeh heh
13:25.23Iroquois|workif i were u id google it 1st
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13:25.25Iroquois|workalso
13:25.27Fischerdunno yet
13:25.28Iroquois|workdnt fill in CC number ect
13:25.31Furyform^^
13:25.33Iroquois|workideal , paypal ect is ok
13:25.40Fischeri did google it
13:25.43Fischeralso
13:25.44ReelixIroquois|work: Gasp! Someone intelligent! What has this world come to! D:
13:25.48Fischerif they scam my cc.. i call my bank
13:25.51Fischerthey own them and give my money back
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13:25.53Fischeri done this before
13:26.00Andy0903hey
13:26.02Link|WorkReelix: you re all over irc man
13:26.05ReelixFischer: You've pwned a scamming site before?
13:26.09Fischerno
13:26.13Fischerbut my bank acc got hacked
13:26.14ReelixLink|Work: I am, yes :p
13:26.18Fischerfrom some spammer site malware
13:26.23Fischerthey stole 2000 danish kr from me
13:26.29Fischeri called my bank.. they sent detectives on the case .d.d
13:26.33Reelixo_O
13:26.34Fischeri got letter from IT police lol
13:26.37Fischermy money back
13:26.38Fischer:D
13:26.40ReelixWow - Kewl
13:26.43Fischerye
13:26.45Fischervery
13:26.46ReelixBuy keys from them nou! Go go go! :D
13:26.51Fischeri will :D
13:26.55Reelix\o/
13:26.55Fischer8 eur for 2 keys
13:26.56Fischertrolol
13:27.04Furyformheh Fischer: if you were in US you'da benfukked
13:27.07Andy0903whats up ?
13:27.08Fischer3 beta acc opt-ins.. problem ?
13:27.11Reelixtrolol lol lol, lol lol lol, lol ol lol!
13:27.15Fischeryea well Furyform  im not.. im danish
13:27.22Fischer:D
13:27.25Iroquois|worki wish there were cheaper alternatives
13:27.33Fischer8 eur for 2 accs lol
13:27.36Fischerfor all future beta opt in
13:27.38Furyformclearly, our govt sucks :D
13:27.38ReelixBuy keys from the chinese for $0.99 each? ;)
13:27.40Fischerpretty cheap
13:27.44Fischerno chinese they fuck u over
13:27.48Fischer:D
13:27.53ReelixWow... Seriously? ;)
13:27.55Fischery
13:28.01Iroquois|workhaha that website :
13:28.02Iroquois|workDiablo III CD KEY (EU) (SCAN) Diablo III is being developed as the definitive action...
13:28.12Fischer:D
13:28.15Fischerwho cares
13:28.18Iroquois|work@reelix, where lol
13:28.21Link|Workso who will buy my d3 level bot for $10?
13:28.41Iroquois|workif u can make a working d3 emulator ill pay 10 bucks
13:28.47ReelixLink|Work: Most chinese, and tonnes of americans
13:28.58ReelixLink|Work: Most likely BEFORE the game is released
13:29.22Fischersite looks very legit
13:29.28Fischeri can choose 10 different payment methods lol
13:29.30Fischerpaypal inclusive
13:29.33Fischerand many other :D
13:29.34Reelix:p
13:29.37Fischernice
13:29.46Fischerwhat is the most safe?
13:30.07FischerAlertpay lol.. dont know those :D
13:30.16Link|Workwe buying d2 keys to play?
13:30.21ReelixWell, it looks like a well made site - I'll give them that
13:30.59Fischerno SC1
13:31.08Fischerlol i can choose DANKORt
13:31.12Fischerwhich is the cc we use in my country
13:31.15Fischeras payment :D:D
13:31.24ReelixFischer: You can't buy just SC1 - You enter the key on BNet, you get Broodwars for free :p
13:31.26FischerVISA/DANKORT
13:31.33Fischeri know
13:31.35Fischersame shit lol
13:31.46Fischeri just need it for my smurfy acc ;D
13:31.55Fischeri put my laptop specs on it
13:32.01Fischerthey suck lol..so higher chance to get in :D
13:32.14ReelixLol
13:32.18Fischer:D:D:D:D
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13:32.40ReelixClosed beta apparently starting this week - Most likely Wednesday / Thursday
13:32.47Fischeryes old news
13:32.53Fischertuesday/wednesday
13:32.58Fischerthurs unlikely imo
13:33.07CesReelix how do you know?
13:33.36Link|Workthat is a lie
13:33.48Iroquois|workits starting tomorrow
13:33.50Iroquois|workfor US
13:33.51Link|Workblizzard only work 1 day a week and everyone knows it's tuesday
13:33.56Iroquois|workso thats weds for EU
13:34.20Link|Worko.O
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13:34.36Iroquois|workive siad this for weeks and so shall i be right again
13:34.41Iroquois|workjust like i was about F&F
13:34.49Fischerok paying now.. here goes
13:34.57Link|WorkFischer: nooo
13:35.12CesFischer play what?
13:35.46Iroquois|workp;ay
13:35.47Link|Workhe's paying for naked female barbarian pics from F&F beta
13:35.55Iroquois|workhes paying for old sc1 keys
13:35.59Iroquois|workso you can opt in beta
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13:36.04Iroquois|workwith multiple accounts
13:36.10Link|Worki hurd sc2 wow only
13:36.14Link|Workoh i get it
13:36.15RaveyistEh?
13:36.16Iroquois|workyeah so they said
13:36.25Iroquois|workbut other blues say its all games
13:36.29Iroquois|workand so does the FAQ
13:36.32Fischerye
13:36.34WyngaleExcatly
13:36.35Fischerits all games
13:36.36Fischertrust me
13:36.38Link|WorkIroquois|work: doesnt the beta sign up info send your mac address?
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13:36.51Iroquois|work@link i dont know
13:36.51Link|Workso they will know the accounts all signed up from the same pc
13:37.02Fischeri have 2 different pc on 2 different networks
13:37.02Iroquois|work@link that would be awesometho haha
13:37.04Fischer:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
13:37.06Fischerso
13:37.07FischerFYUCK THEM
13:37.08Fischer:D
13:37.17Fischeri'm smart <3
13:37.22Link|WorkFischer your so smart.
13:37.25Fischerye
13:37.28Fischeri trick blizzard
13:37.32Iroquois|workive opted in at work, home , new house , gf , firends , neighbours ntwork... all on other pcs :P so i guess its ok
13:37.33FischerNOW GIVE ME BETA KEY NAO
13:37.38Fischerlol fu :D
13:38.12Solttuiroquois did u do it also with different email adres?
13:38.13Link|WorkFischer when you linked me the banner thing i was like oh shit keylogger cos i couldnt see the banner window
13:38.21Iroquois|worki heard trhis guy on the forums had 25accounts :P
13:38.22Link|Workthen i realised you had to click the sound button
13:38.23RaveyistYou know az much as I want to get in beta, I'm still happy to wait
13:38.31Iroquois|workofc solttu
13:38.38Solttu?
13:38.41RaveyistTo be fair, I'd be happier if I knew release date
13:38.48WyngaleOf course he did Solttu
13:38.59Iroquois|workrelease date and CE stuff @ blizzcon 11
13:39.01RaveyistI dint know why they keep it so quiet
13:39.13RaveyistThat's October
13:39.21RaveyistBut it makes sense
13:39.25Solttuhow about the games u have 6 blizzard games?
13:39.31WyngaleIf they can do it on October.. jeez, that would be amazing.
13:39.34RaveyistThat way more people buy virtual ticket
13:40.32Iroquois|workon my main acc ive got every single game :P
13:40.33Andy0903guys
13:40.42RaveyistIts only a matter of time before Blizzard land opens
13:40.45Andy0903when you play D3, will you rush through it or take your time ?
13:41.02Iroquois|worktbh i thinkj diablo 3 CE should include a free virtual ticket =) id buy it.. (not liek i wont buy it anyway lol)
13:41.05RaveyistThen shortly after, Euroblizzard
13:41.36Iroquois|work@andy , i think this will be the 1st game im gonna take it slow and go for the 100% explorer achivement
13:41.51RaveyistThe first games company to open a theme park
13:41.59WashiAndy0903, what do u gain from rushing
13:42.04Iroquois|workisnt there a WOW themepark in china allready?
13:42.05WyngaleAndy0903, in my case i'll rush, i can always have fun on Inferno, it's the place where i'll read everything :p
13:42.11WyngaleWashi, That's fun for me.
13:42.13RaveyistThat's china
13:42.20RaveyistIt doesn't count
13:42.30Andy0903accualy i think ill rush aswell
13:42.32Iroquois|workRaveyist: http://consumerist.com/2011/07/counterfeit-wow-theme-park-opens-in-china.html
13:42.34Fischerwtf
13:42.38Fischerthey have to verify me
13:42.38Fischervia me phone
13:42.39Fischerwow.
13:42.40Andy0903I always rush though games
13:42.42Fischer:
13:42.43Fischer:D
13:42.49WashiWyngale, to beat it as fast as possible, or to beat it among the first players ? :)
13:43.00WyngaleWashi, Both ;)
13:43.23RaveyistWell I
13:43.28WyngaleWashi, that's how i have fun, really.
13:43.39Raveyist<PROTECTED>
13:43.55RaveyistI bet there's an achievement for that
13:43.56WyngaleAfter that i'll chill and start do things here and there.
13:44.09Fischerlol
13:44.13Iroquois|worki like the idea of rushing through to inferno and collect everything there..but at the same time i wanna do that on my first go
13:44.14Fischerthey just sent me an sms to my phone
13:44.15Fischerrofl
13:44.16Fischer:p
13:44.21RaveyistAchievement: Box Clever - open every chest in game
13:44.26Fischerif its a fake site
13:44.30Fischerthey sure got alot of stuff going in it
13:44.33Fischerfor a fake site ;D
13:44.41WyngaleYes Fischer, most of these sites do so, i bought accs and keys that way several amount of times.
13:44.45WyngaleThey do call you some times even
13:44.47Iroquois|workis anything know about achievements ? i really wanna know what some good ones are
13:45.04Fischerok
13:45.04RaveyistNah
13:45.10Fischercall me ?
13:45.11RaveyistIt's all hush hush
13:45.12WashiWyngale, maybe there are achis "get lvl 60 under xx hours" :P
13:45.14Fischerwtf but im fapping
13:45.27WyngaleFischer, depends on site, they can verify you different ways.
13:45.31WyngaleIt's depends on site policy
13:45.33Fischerwell sms verified me
13:45.39Fischerso now i get key
13:45.40WashiWyngale, only good point of rushing for me would be i get to farm gear before others
13:45.59WyngaleWashi, Yes, that's one of thousand other points :P
13:46.29WyngaleCuz i know that Uber gear with best gems requires a real deal time.
13:47.23WyngaleIt just depends on your play style and how you having fun, everyone should do it in his own way. :)
13:47.48Spl4sh3rseemst he diablo launcher is updating
13:47.53Spl4sh3r*the
13:47.57WashiWyngale, i'm gonna take my time on first plays.. i usually level up by taking time to get best possible gear for my level
13:48.10Spl4sh3rand hello everyone :P
13:49.22WyngaleHello Splasher
13:49.42Iroquois|workwell thats nice splasher!
13:50.04WyngaleWashi, I see. :)
13:50.15Iroquois|workcommunication error when updating the launcher
13:50.18Iroquois|workwaaaay
13:50.26ChaotiKif you rush past d3 just to 'farm better loot' i'd love to punch you in the face.. take the time to enjoy the game. its  game. even if you are first there are a million people who are next =p
13:50.44Link|Workhello ChaotiK
13:50.51Iroquois|workFarming loot = REAL money this time :P
13:51.02Iroquois|workaltho im gonna avoid the RMAH, fgsfd
13:51.03WyngaleI will do the way i want to, it's not like this is my only character.
13:51.04Washiwell someone might start to play the game months after the release and still end up in the top gear players..i dont think few days gonna make much difference in that sense
13:51.08Link|Workwhy farm? just dupe.
13:51.18Iroquois|worklol
13:51.31FuryformChaotiK: lets make d3 babies
13:51.55Iroquois|workjust go on and work on some emulator, dont make us wait :+
13:51.59Spl4sh3rChaotiK you can enjoy d3 on inferno :P
13:52.03WyngaleChaotiK: "take the time to enjoy the game" - and that's what i DO. :P
13:52.09Link|Worklol ok iro
13:52.11WyngaleSplasher, exactly!
13:52.11WyngaleXD
13:52.27Spl4sh3ryou can just write "spl" and press tab to get the correct name lol :P
13:52.36ChaotiKd3 babies
13:52.44WyngaleSpl4sh3r, oh, okay :)
13:52.49Iroquois|workLink|Work: you actually working on one ? :D
13:53.12Iroquois|workIs anyone hwere actually in F&F
13:53.29Washifew ppl here have played
13:53.39Iroquois|workhttp://www.diablofans.com/topic/28452-dualboxing/
13:53.44Fischerok done
13:53.45Iroquois|workis there actually a /follow ?
13:53.47Fischernow i just need the key
13:54.01ChaotiKno follow command
13:54.14Iroquois|workfuck :*
13:54.34Spl4sh3rto be honest, I never even really played d2
13:54.39ChaotiKbut the exp range is large so you could just try to 'keep up"
13:54.39Iroquois|workauch
13:54.40Iroquois|workwhy ?
13:54.51Spl4sh3rI was young and it was scary?
13:54.55Spl4sh3r;P
13:54.57Iroquois|workChaotiK: are we talking 2player game = 200% or ?
13:55.01Spl4sh3rno, but I don't know
13:55.11Iroquois|workso when i dualbox with 45 accs leveling is 450%faster ? :D
13:55.19Iroquois|work*4
13:55.23ChaotiKi don't know
13:55.29ChaotiKnobody does
13:55.29Iroquois|work45 accs would be maddness, also impossible
13:55.31Iroquois|workpity :(
13:55.31Washiemm
13:55.43Washido u mean u have 3 chars on follow?
13:55.48Spl4sh3rIroquois|work no...but probably 4400% faster assuming you use one character to kill while the other gains exp :P
13:56.01Washiif u fight solo in 4 player game.. u die :P
13:56.09Spl4sh3rprobably not on normal
13:56.11FischerWHERE IS MY KEY
13:56.13Fischer>_________<
13:56.13ChaotiKthe streamers notice more exp in a group than alone
13:56.14Iroquois|workim really up for trying to get atleast 2 working at the same time, but ur not allowed to have 3th party software running
13:56.25Iroquois|workWashi: well...2 player game is possible
13:56.29Spl4sh3rChaotiK probably because its harder to kill the monsters
13:56.32Iroquois|workonly will get the mobs 150% instead of 100
13:56.34WyngaleFischer, sometimes it takes up to minutes and sometimes it can be hours.
13:56.37WashiIroquois|work, there won't be follow tho
13:56.39Fischer!!!!
13:56.52ChaotiKits cause there are more groups of mobs and you get the massicare bonus (spelling?)
13:56.54Washii'm quite sure there won't be /follow
13:57.07FuryformChaotiK: it could just be that there are more total monsters to kill, similar to the way blues keep explaining the difference between solo loot and loot while grouped
13:57.11Simpyehm, I kinda jump in mid-discussion here but you need to alt tab all the time to check for loot drop since it is individual anyway, rite ?
13:57.15Iroquois|workwe'll have to kidnap jay and ask him for both beta and /follow then :( , how the hell am i gonna level 5 chars all the way to 60, in 4 diffrent acts and not get bored shitless?
13:57.19Washino reason for /follow because u can teleport to ur friend
13:57.26ChaotiKthe massicare exp bonus looks nice
13:57.28[wKy]Zackaryelpointless a /follow since you can tp on top of anyone
13:57.30Furyformonly from town Washi
13:57.32Fischeri kidnap jay
13:57.45WashiFuryform, u think /follow in wow was just for multiboxing? :P
13:57.46Iroquois|work@simpy 2screens with full windowd mode on. easy
13:58.02Furyformi didn't mention WoW
13:58.06Spl4sh3rany streams online now?, I don't trust the stream thread, mostly because it said it was one class and the stream was of another ;P
13:58.22Simpytrue but still need to go back and forth and look at both ... this is not WoW ... it's alot faster :P
13:58.22Furyformi used follow all the time in vanilla wow during molten core
13:58.26Furyformlol
13:58.28WyngaleIs there anyone who have seen this one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLl4nT923uo ?
13:58.39WyngaleI know he's high level but they way he fights looks right.
13:58.43Simpyyea Wyngale
13:58.50Wyngalethe way*
13:58.54Washiin MMO there's some point using /follow. u travel long distances..  they were never built for multiboxing
13:58.54ChaotiKwyngale thats what i mean about the massicare exp bonus
13:58.56Simpyhe seems to know a bit about gaming
13:59.03Iroquois|worknot a steam but a very very nice monk vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLl4nT923uo&feature=feedu
13:59.17WyngaleYeah ChaotiK, it was just first one i've seen with High combo count
13:59.42Washidiablo3 has 0 reason to include /follow
13:59.44Iroquois|worklol, we lin kthe same movie
13:59.49Iroquois|workwhat are the odds
13:59.52WyngaleYes :)
14:00.17Simpythe only reason I'm gonna have 2 D3's running is if I can get more loot for the stronger mobs
14:00.25Simpy*from
14:00.26Washihow does the kill combo work.. u have to engage next mob in 1-2 seconds or it cuts?
14:00.31Iroquois|worksame here
14:00.37Simpysomething like that Washi
14:00.41SimpyI suppose
14:00.42WyngaleWashi, I think it's something like this
14:00.42Furyformsingle ability kill count, from my understanding Washi
14:00.43Fischeru need 2 accs for that
14:00.43Fischer:p
14:00.46WashiSimpy, sounds cheap ;)
14:00.50Iroquois|workim gonna buy 4 :P
14:00.54Fischer4 accs?
14:00.55Fischerlol
14:01.05Iroquois|work1x CE , 1x for my gf and then 2 more for when friends come ovr
14:01.06Fischerthats alot of money :)
14:01.10Fischerlol ok
14:01.14Fischercrazy
14:01.15SimpyI'm gonna buy another for my wife but when she is not playing I might be using it on my own PC (if you can)
14:01.15Iroquois|work3x 29eur and 1x 80...
14:01.20Washiwhy not use the game price in RMAH
14:01.28Washiand get loot what u can choose ;)
14:01.29Fischer29 eur where?
14:01.34WyngaleIroquois, where you'll buy that cheap ?
14:01.35Iroquois|workonly key
14:01.38Wyngale!!!
14:01.40WyngaleWhere! :P
14:01.42Fischeru really wanna buy just the key from faker sites?
14:01.43Fischer:)
14:01.43ChaotiKi personally will have 4 accounts also. 2 for me. 1 for my son. 1 for the wife.. who better fucking play if she knows whats good for her
14:01.47Fischerbig risk
14:01.51Iroquois|workdno yet, but there will bel oads on the web on release
14:01.54*** join/#diablofans Raveyist (~Raveyist@46.69.113.43)
14:01.55Furyformeu amazon used to have preorder at 29 but i heard they raised it a few days ago?
14:01.57Fischerya
14:01.59Fischerbut loads of fake
14:02.01Fischerrisky :p
14:02.02MeeraAnyone has a good, but hell, really good DH gameplay video? around 12 level. Al DH game plays I've seen sucks balls
14:02.07Iroquois|workloads of legit too
14:02.12FischerNO
14:02.12WyngaleFuryform: They selling it for 29 pounds, not euros
14:02.12Fischer:P
14:02.16Furyformoh
14:02.18WyngaleAnd not 29 exacly, its 30
14:02.29Iroquois|workWyngale: itrs 29.99eur
14:02.32Simpylet me see Meera
14:02.35RaveyistI got pre order at GAME for £29 so I'm happy
14:02.35Fischeru need just 1 acc
14:02.39Washiextra accounts to get more boss loot? sounds boring ;)
14:02.41WyngaleIroquois, that sounds fucking amazing, where is that ?
14:02.47Fischeranybody know the cheapest pre-ordeR?
14:03.05Meerajust lend me a beta
14:03.09Fischerfu
14:03.11Meeraand i will play DH properly
14:03.13RaveyistGame or gamestayion at £39.99
14:03.20Simpyactually I do not have any DH lvl 12+ vids
14:03.26Fischeri live in denmark
14:03.27Furyformlol Meera, if that's your reasoning they should give me a beta too ;)
14:03.53Simpythat will most likely be true for all in this channel ^^
14:03.56HatiFuryform: german amazon is now at 59€
14:03.58MeeraFury, I've seen better monk, wiz, baba, wd game plays, really nice ones, with commenting. but DH ones are just, plain stupid
14:04.10WyngaleIroquois|work: Come on, i'd like to pay less. Share teh link.
14:04.11Wyngale:p
14:04.13Furyformit used to be lower didn't it Hati? or was i seeing wrong
14:04.22Hatiyeah
14:04.24Hatilike 44€
14:04.35Furyformya that sounds about what i saw
14:04.49Spl4sh3rgonna watch a stream now
14:05.04Reelixwww.livestream.com/owttnaived <--- Best streamer I've seen - Finished the beta multiple times with every class, and answers questions as he plays. Not sure if it's live now - But just saying :)
14:05.37Washihmm they say u can only run one diablo 3 on same comp?
14:05.48Furyformi hope that's true Washi
14:05.51Furyform;)
14:05.53FischerReelix:
14:05.55Spl4sh3rReelix already on that one :P
14:06.02WyngaleFuryform +1
14:06.04Spl4sh3rwas the first I found on livestream
14:06.04Fischerbest streamer is definitely rmiza or Spendr
14:06.19Fischerrmizas stream is amazing
14:06.25Furyformlicks Wyngale
14:06.31Spl4sh3rone question since I haven't really played diablo at all...on the action bar I see 5 skills on 1-5 and 2 other skills are these for mousebuttons?
14:06.49Washiyea
14:07.00Fischery
14:07.06Spl4sh3rand you move with the mouse aswell? what stops you from using a skill when you try to move? :P
14:07.17Washiu need to target
14:07.29Washior hold shift down and click to hit without target
14:07.44Fischerhttp://www.justin.tv/rmiza
14:07.46Spl4sh3rso if you are completely surrounded and try to move it would be harder to click somewhere without attacking? ;P
14:07.49Fischermost boss stream on the internet
14:07.55Furyformif you're surrounded, you won't move
14:07.57Furyform:)
14:08.08Spl4sh3rI know, was just a hypotethical question ;P
14:08.13Spl4sh3ror however that is spelled
14:08.22Furyformalmost correct
14:08.24WashiSpl4sh3r, u can click side of the screen and hold button down, ur char follows the cursor then
14:08.27Furyformwe get the intent tho
14:08.45WashiSpl4sh3r, u can take it top of monsters when its held down and u just keep moving
14:09.01Furyformor if you're a DH you can flip out of the mob; wizard tele out
14:09.02Furyform:D
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14:09.12Spl4sh3rI'm going Monk
14:09.24Furyformknock em back with the bell?
14:09.31Washiif u have the bell
14:09.32Furyformif you are using it at least
14:09.44Spl4sh3rwell thats enough info for me :p
14:09.46Washimonk can probably dash trough enemies?
14:09.55Spl4sh3ror knock them back
14:10.00Furyformmonk isn't magical
14:10.25Spl4sh3rand lol on the stream I saw yesterday where the player got two yellow boots from skeleton king ;P
14:10.35Washiwhat about it :)
14:10.36FischerWOOOT
14:10.39Fischerit works
14:10.40Fischermy key is here :D:D:
14:10.50Spl4sh3rWashi one would be wasted ;P
14:10.54Fischertim eto load up my 2nd internet on laptop and do optin check
14:10.55Fischer:P
14:10.55Furyformno Spl4sh3r
14:11.01Spl4sh3ryes !
14:11.03Furyformno
14:11.09Furyformdifferent stats likely on the items
14:11.15WashiSpl4sh3r, with good luck u sometimes do get 2 rares.. sometimes even better :P
14:11.24Furyformdifferent purposes of use, and in retail you can ah the ones you don't want
14:11.26Spl4sh3rif yellow is rare what you call blue tbh? :P
14:11.29Furyformor salvage them, or vendor them
14:11.33ReelixWow - Just been phoned - I have a job interview in 50 minutes o_O
14:11.37Spl4sh3ror blue is rare and yellow legendary?
14:11.46Furyformblue is magic, yellow rare, orange legend
14:11.51Spl4sh3rok
14:12.00Washiorange is same as uniques in d2?
14:12.04Furyformyes
14:12.13Furyformit's orangish gold
14:12.16Furyformsomethin like that
14:12.18Spl4sh3rthey should pick another color than orange tbh its to close to yellow
14:12.22Washiso getting rares isn't that rare .. and all rares are random stat items
14:12.44Spl4sh3rWashi yellow is rare and they are rare ;P
14:12.50Spl4sh3ratleast on the beta so far
14:12.55Washiyea i dunno why they have orange color.. :P
14:13.05Furyformwhat
14:13.39Furyformactually it's more accurately gold, but that just makes it harder to distinguish from yellow in lower resolutions
14:14.01Furyformi'm just having a bad morning for explaining things
14:14.05Furyform:)
14:14.27Iroquois|workWyngale: when ive got links myself ill let you know. i dont know them myself yet. i normally order from g2play but ive heard some bad rumour going round bout that website
14:14.29Spl4sh3rlol stream got petrified trunk...
14:15.08FuryformFischer: what did you buy a key for
14:15.13Iroquois|worklauncher is updating
14:16.06Spl4sh3rIroquois|work I said that when I came here :P
14:16.30Iroquois|worki know Spl4sh3r but now its actually owrking instead of DC
14:16.36Spl4sh3rhehe
14:16.53FischerFuryform:  price?
14:17.00Furyformgame
14:17.04WyngaleIroquois|work: Alright, thatnks, i'll wait for that one. :)
14:17.09FischerSc1
14:17.12Fischerfor opt in acc
14:17.13Wyngalethanks*
14:17.20Iroquois|workgod i havent shaved since the fucking diablebeard contest :') im hairy as fuck
14:17.34WyngalexD
14:18.03Spl4sh3rthats abit lol, if you have completed the part where you get first hierling or w/e and you do the same quest again you will have two of him :P
14:18.16Spl4sh3rduring the quest only obviously
14:18.45Iroquois|workdont you guys think its weird bosses only frop their good loot on their 1st kill
14:18.46Iroquois|workthats it
14:18.54Washinah
14:19.09Washiit's all random :P
14:19.44WyngaleNot sure if it's that way in D3, though i know couple of games where boss drop better loot on first kill when you have quest.
14:19.50Iroquois|worklol! im not in beta but made it crash. so i've send an email to blizzard reporting this bug
14:20.06Simpydid they not say you would not get rage from urns ?
14:20.08KroBayeah but diablo 2 did a similar thing
14:20.08Iroquois|workits so not diablo like tho
14:20.16Reelix|AFKIn D2 bosses drop better loot on their first kill
14:20.18KroBathe first time you killed something they were guaranteed to drop something
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14:20.20Iroquois|workid say KIL KILL KILL BOSS RUNS KILL , is all where d2 is about
14:20.24KroBalike andariel dropping a normal gem
14:20.40Iroquois|workandriel dropped alot for me , evne a soj if i remember correct
14:20.56Reelix|AFKNM Andy has the highest SoJ drop potential in the game
14:21.05Reelix|AFKEven higher on classic
14:21.06KroBayep
14:21.27Iroquois|workalso easiest kill
14:21.28KroBaa mid-level sorc is great - just never advance past act 1
14:21.32KroBaand she keeps dropping well
14:21.36Iroquois|worki could fireball that butch without even having to see her
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14:21.39KroBafireball woops her
14:21.40Reelix|AFKDo NM Andy runs with a classic char, give SoJ's to alts, port them over, give to main
14:21.46KroBayer
14:22.09Iroquois|workhowmany sojs have u found /
14:22.27Reelix|AFKIn my life? Coupla hundred
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14:23.36Destructushey guys was just thinking baout something i wanted to ask
14:23.44Reelix|AFK?
14:24.07DestructusSo you take a spell from the pool and you equp it to the menu right
14:24.12Reelix|AFKYup
14:24.15Iroquois|workWow..thats alo
14:24.20Iroquois|workive found liek...2
14:24.26Iroquois|workin 6years or so lol
14:24.35Reelix|AFKIroquois|work: Do 100 NM Andy runs a day with a classic char for 3 months, and get back to me
14:24.55Destructuswouldnt be cool if you can take the same skill to different slots with different runs effects
14:24.56Iroquois|workReelix|AFK: i used to bdo bout a 100 a night :P but expansion tho :(
14:25.25Reelix|AFKHeh - If all those were classic, you'd probably have about 200 by now :p
14:25.34Destructusso electrcute can be 3 different thing on the same guy if you would like to play that way
14:25.54Reelix|AFKDestructus: It can only have 1 rune in at once
14:25.54WashiDestructus, so half of ur skills would be in cd after using one of em
14:26.22Fischerthere w go
14:26.25DestructusWell the way the ui looks ... it looks like you slot the rune to the aval slot
14:26.25Fischer2nd opt in acc done
14:26.28Fischerman the stats sucks
14:26.41Destructusnot to the skll
14:26.50Destructusbut to the skill slot used
14:26.55Reelix|AFKHmmm
14:26.57WyngaleErm..
14:27.02Fischerdo u think i will able to play D3 on core 2 duo T6600: Radeon mobility 4570
14:27.04Fischer:D?
14:27.04DestructusI dunno just looking through the wizard seemed intresting
14:27.05WyngaleIt looks just as it should be for me.
14:27.20Reelix|AFKFischer: Can you run SC2?
14:27.30Fischermy opt-in spec are core2duo 2.22ghz T6660 Radaeon 4570
14:27.33Washirune sockets are next to the skills not action bar slots
14:27.36Fischeryes i run sc2 in medium
14:27.39Destructusif i was abloe to get the benimifts of modified skills in multable slots
14:27.42Fischerat 1300*700
14:27.45Reelix|AFKFischer: Then you will be able to run D2 on Medium
14:27.48Fischeri hope these noob specs will get me into the beta :P
14:27.51Destructusso one else thinks that would be cool?
14:27.57Fischercos blizz wants to see how it runs on my shit system :D:D
14:28.04Fischerofc... i wont be using it for my shit system ..
14:28.04Wyngale1 rune for 1 skill, that's it.
14:28.07FischerXD
14:28.18Reelix|AFKFischer: You have a higher chance than someone with the best of everything :)
14:28.24DestructusI know... what it is thats not what im asking
14:28.39WyngaleSorry, i don't get it. ><
14:28.39Fischery
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14:28.50Washiyou're asking would it be cool?
14:28.51Reelix|AFKFischer: Because multiple people have the best of everything
14:28.52Fischeri hope my laptop gets in :p
14:29.20Fischermaybe i get in both times
14:29.23Fischeron both ACCS :D
14:29.23DestructusWell who knows.. it could be the other way basced on the look on thr system
14:29.26Fischeri sell 1 for 500 euro
14:29.30Fischertrololol
14:29.30Iroquois|workim running andy again
14:29.34DestructusIf you rune a skill
14:29.42Reelix|AFKFischer: Have you heard the trololol song?
14:29.49Fischery
14:29.49Destructusjust on skill it would be runed o the tree not the aval slots
14:29.54Reelix|AFKOk :p
14:29.56Fischerofc i have :P
14:30.03Reelix|InterviewGtg - Be back later :P
14:30.07Fischerlaer
14:30.14WyngaleGl~
14:30.18Reelix|InterviewTa
14:30.33Destructusno ones sees what im saying
14:30.38Fischerwhat are u saying
14:30.42Spl4sh3rmeh stream going demonhunter boooring
14:30.46Washiwe know how the skills and runes go
14:30.47Furyformhe is lying Fischer
14:30.50Furyformclearly we can see
14:30.52Furyform:D
14:30.54Washiand what you're saying doesnt fit that picture :)
14:31.00Destructuswhy not
14:31.02Fischerwhen u rune a skill
14:31.05Fischerthe skill becomes runed..
14:31.08Fischerproblem?
14:31.28Destructusright wouldnt it be on the tree tho if you coulcnt run the same skill twice
14:31.37Furyformyou change the rune
14:31.41Furyformwhen you want it changed
14:31.47Washithere is no "tree" more like list
14:31.51Fischerwhat tree?
14:31.52Fischerlol
14:31.54DestructusI mean the pool
14:31.57Destructusnot the tree
14:31.58Fischerthen say that
14:32.01Fischeru are confusing us
14:32.04Furyformnyan tree?
14:32.11Fischerahaha
14:32.19FischerU cannot rune a skill with 2 different runes
14:32.22Destructusok... if lets say we are runeing hydra
14:32.22WyngaleI'm confused, i'll read instead of commenting..
14:32.23Fischerat the same time.
14:32.30Washiskill only takes 1 rune at time
14:32.34Fischeryes
14:32.44Washiand you probably cant drag same skill more than 1 action bar slot
14:32.46Fischeru cannot have 2 different version of 1 skill at the same time
14:32.50Fischerexactly
14:32.58Fischer1 unique skill per slot
14:33.03Fischeruse logic :P
14:33.06WyngaleIt's common sense.
14:33.06Destructusif were going to make that skill different wouldnt you put the rune in the slot in the pool not in the Aval skills list
14:33.18Furyformumm
14:33.20Fischerwhat
14:33.21Fischerare
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14:33.22Furyformlol
14:33.24Fischeru talking about
14:33.25Fischer:P
14:33.26Furyformhe's talking about a pool now
14:33.27Iroquois|workare there diffrent levels of runes aswell ?
14:33.31Fischerare u drunk ?
14:33.34Destructusso you can rune 3 different runes on the list with the same skill
14:33.34Furyformnot even a skill list, but an actual pool :D
14:33.37Fischeryes
14:33.37FischerIroquois|work:
14:33.40Fischer7 levels
14:33.42ChaotiKi was like. why the fuck are 900 people watching this wizard stream.. oh ok its a girl playing that makes sense
14:33.46Iroquois|workah nice
14:33.48Fischerhahaha
14:33.54Iroquois|workfap fap
14:33.56Destructusjeezz....
14:33.57WashiDestructus, no, 1 rune per 1 skill :)
14:34.07WyngaleIroquois|work: 7 Drops obviously on inferno only.
14:34.09FuryformDestructus: one skill can be chosen once and runed with one run at a time
14:34.09WashiDestructus, it doesn't bend
14:34.13DestructusI know.... but its seems like it COULD work the toher way
14:34.20Furyformwhat?
14:34.30FischerDestructus:  brah... what are u on about
14:34.31Fischer..
14:34.32Fischer:D
14:34.35Destructuslol
14:34.45Fischerlisten
14:34.45Destructusim sorry im not explainging it right
14:34.49Fischerlisten to me
14:34.51Fischeri explain it
14:34.59Iroquois|workwtf my d2 is trippign balls
14:35.00Furyformlets just put it this way, if you're still confused Destructus try starting from the very beginning and explaining your step by step thought process
14:35.03Iroquois|worki point it to the right
14:35.06Iroquois|workand my char goes left
14:35.21FischerYou have 30 skills, you got 6 skillslots. So u choose 6 skills to put on skillslot bar and use.
14:35.22DestructusI was asking my self ....SELF... I wish i could rune the same skill with different runes to get different effects on the same build
14:35.29FischerFrom those 6 skills, u can put 1 rune into each of the 6 skills
14:35.31WyngaleFischer, wait a bit, let him speak.
14:35.31Fischerand only 1 rune
14:36.04Fischerusing 5 different versions of 1 skills would be stupid
14:36.10Fischerand it would take away from costumization
14:36.11WashiDestructus, yea but you can't .. you can change the runes but there will always be just 1 skill with 1 rune
14:36.15Fischersince u can get all effects u want
14:36.27FuryformFischer is clearly an anomaly with optional attention span
14:36.28WyngaleYou sayin' that it would be nice to insert 2 or more diff runes typo in one skill ?
14:36.30DestructusSo if you look at the list ... It LOOKS like you can say take 3 different runes and take the vanalla skill and place it in all 3 slots...
14:36.33Fischerthe point is, u have to limit your choice, so u get unique build
14:36.36WyngaleNo, it will be even crazier to balance!
14:36.45Furyformno Destructus
14:36.54DestructusI know we cant!!!!
14:36.55Fischer1 skill = 1 rune..
14:36.59FischerAND IT WONT CHANGE
14:37.00Fischerso quit asking
14:37.01Destructusstop saying no!
14:37.01Fischer:p
14:37.07Washihaha
14:37.12Fischerit's not a cool idea, and they wont change it
14:37.13WyngaleHe speaking "if it was available"
14:37.14Fischerso drop it pls
14:37.15Fischer:P
14:37.22Fischerit wont be avaliable
14:37.23DestructusIm saying the ui seems to be set up to favor thats kind of system if they wanted...
14:37.28DestructusTHATS ALL IM SAYING!
14:37.29Furyformnot to me
14:37.30Washinaah
14:37.31ChaotiKor else id run with 3 zombie dog runes and 3 gargauntan runes =p
14:37.39WyngaleNot to me as well.
14:37.51Destructusyou cant seem where the runes are placed
14:37.56Destructuson the list not the pool
14:37.58Furyformcause once the skill is chosen it clearly becomes unavailable to be picked again
14:38.10Fischery
14:38.29Fischerit would be a stupid idea to have 1 skill in 5 different versions on your skillbar
14:38.30WyngaleYou can't do such stuff, it sounds for me like a "glitch" :P
14:38.34Fischerit goes against the concept of the game
14:38.38Destructusunless the rune changes the skill and it IS able to be picked again
14:38.43Destructuswhy would it
14:38.50Destructusthey are different skills now
14:38.53WyngaleBecause we already know HOW it works.
14:38.56WyngaleFor the god sake
14:39.03WyngaleJay wilson explained it already.
14:39.04Washirune only modifies it doesn't make it new skill
14:39.07Fischeru want 6 different skills
14:39.11Fischernot 1 with 5 different versions
14:39.14Fischer-.--
14:39.22Destructusno we dont until they come out with a final ver of the skill rune system its really in limbo
14:39.35ChaotiKthis guy
14:39.39Fischerjust drop it
14:39.41ChaotiK<PROTECTED>
14:39.42WyngaleJishash
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14:39.50Fischerthey wont change it.. and u wont be able to rune 1 skill 5 times
14:39.52Fischerend of story
14:39.54Fischermove along.
14:39.55Fischer:)
14:39.56FuryformDestructus: plant this ( http://9gag.com/gag/248494 ) in your yard; teach each one the same skill; feed them each a different rune; that's the only way ;D
14:40.07WyngaleThe only one who looking on Rune system in that perspective there - YOU.
14:40.14WyngaleAnd you thinkin' that they will do something like that ?
14:40.24DestructusWell i thought it was an intresting concept guys dont need to be mocked till the end of time
14:40.27WyngaleNo, they will not.
14:40.44Furyformwe're just explaining to you that the skill morphs, not duplicates THEN morphs
14:40.44DestructusWho knows what it will end up being after jays intreview
14:40.45Washidoesn't sound logical
14:40.45WyngaleAlright, i got it, but it just will be different thing.
14:40.58Furyformwe're sure you won't have 5 teleports on one bar
14:41.02Furyformno matter how you look at it
14:41.25WyngaleDestructus: think about it, for now, there is not even a single person who seems to agree with your interesting system..
14:41.53WashiDestructus, what about this, have no skills at all in ur action bar. no runes at all. only use normal swing to go trough the game
14:42.02DestructusI know what your saying guys just seemed like another layer of difference between builds
14:42.04Destructusthats all
14:42.15DestructusShoot me for thinking
14:42.19Furyformi don't see difference in it as much as i see lameness in character makeup
14:42.19Furyform:/
14:42.24Meerarunes just extend the skills with new aditions
14:42.28Meeraplain simple
14:42.34WyngaleThinging is nice, but i don't like that idea. ;)
14:42.37Wyngalethinking*
14:42.38Furyformcause then you have a character with the same skill with slightly different twitches all over it
14:42.43Syncnesshow the fuck did this kid get into F&F
14:42.55Washiwhat..kid
14:43.01Washimaybe he is FAMILY ;)
14:43.05Meeralawl
14:43.07Washison
14:43.29Syncnesshttp://d3stash.com/streams/
14:43.30Syncnessfirst one
14:43.36FuryformSyncness: you will find that there are very few people among F&F that are true diablo fans
14:43.45SyncnessFuryform, I know, and I'm envious.
14:44.25DestructusSecond thing i wanted to ask about was the monk skills
14:44.38DestructusIf you use a 1handed wep
14:45.04Destructusthey are using the base damage + skill damage like with the barb?
14:45.17Furyformif the skill says so, probably
14:45.28Furyformyou will be able to swap weapons and see in game
14:45.31ChaotiKhave you read the skills?
14:45.40Furyformwho
14:45.40ChaotiKmost are % weapon damage
14:45.50Furyformguessing him, in that case
14:45.51Furyformheh
14:45.52WyngaleYes, exactly!
14:45.58Destructusand the same with the DH right
14:45.58WyngaleMost of skills have %
14:45.59WashiFuryform, i asked in wow guild chat once how many played d2.. only 1 had :P
14:46.03Wyngaleweapon damage
14:46.06Destructusso they are very attached to gear
14:46.27WyngaleYes.
14:46.28FuryformWashi: tell them all their d3 beta are belong to Furyform
14:46.32Destructusso at the start they would seem slower un itl they get the right gear
14:46.50ChaotiKits easier to make skills % weapon damage that way they scale with your gear and you never have to edit the skill
14:46.59WyngaleRight gear, scaling of %(i suppose) at certain level.
14:47.00Furyformdiablo is a very gear based game
14:47.04Destructusbut not the wiazrd
14:47.10Destructushes pure skills
14:47.14Iroquois|workWashi: yet all of them opt in for beta :( gay
14:47.22Washiif u dualwield 2 weapons and skill is based on % weapon dmg how does it calculate
14:47.26Syncnessfuck the stream
14:47.32Syncnessthe kid's voice makes me shiver
14:47.42Washi:)
14:47.42Furyformwait
14:47.46Furyformthe kid talks?!?
14:47.49Washishe wasn't born when d2 came even
14:47.53Furyformfinds pedobear suit
14:47.55Syncnessfucking makes me feel pedo listening to a kid talk at 12:47 am
14:47.59Syncnessthat shit sickens me
14:47.59Fischershes 25..
14:48.02Syncnessugh, fucking nasty
14:48.08SyncnessFischer, you're joking right?
14:48.12Syncnessgo d3stash first stream
14:48.12Fischerno?
14:48.13Syncnessit's a kid talking
14:48.18Syncnessno way that's a 25y/o chick
14:48.20Fischerive been listening to it
14:48.24Fischerto it
14:48.25Fischerbefore u did
14:48.27Fischerand its not a kid
14:48.29ChaotiKkids are in school
14:48.33Syncnesslisten to it now
14:48.41Syncnessmaybe we're listening to different people
14:48.47Fischeri know some girls have squaky voices
14:48.47Syncnessa kid is talking now.
14:48.58Syncnessfor the love of fucking god, listen to it now
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14:49.16Destructusso wait what wizard skills have a gear % to them
14:49.18Fischerlol
14:49.26Syncnessdifferent people?
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14:49.40Fischernobody is talking
14:49.41Fischer...
14:49.42FuryformSyncness: bigfangs stream?
14:49.43Syncnesswait for it
14:49.45LuminI am still wondering about 1280x720...
14:49.45Syncnessyeah bigfasng
14:49.50LuminAnyone know why its not supported ? :P
14:49.51Fischerwhy do u feel pedo?
14:49.55Fischerbecause u are ?
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14:50.46WyngaleDestructus: http://wowbox.tw/d3/skill.php?c=Wizard
14:50.51Fischernobody is talking
14:50.52Fischergg Syncness y
14:50.57Syncness?
14:51.00Fischer:P
14:51.02SyncnessThe kid talk yet?
14:51.09Fischerno the girl didnt talk yet
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14:51.15Syncnessfuck you troll
14:51.18Fischer...
14:51.20WyngaleDestructus: Not much skills use % of weapon damage.
14:51.23Fischerits not a kid
14:51.37WyngaleDestructus: In case you're speaking of wizard of course.
14:51.39SyncnessIt might not be the streamer, but there's a kid talking in that channel
14:51.49Fischeri have heard her.. but shes not a kid
14:51.55Fischermaybe he sounds like one, but she isnt
14:52.01Fischershe*
14:52.10Fischer:D
14:52.23LuminI am going to assume that there's just nothing below * x 768
14:52.24LuminHMMM
14:52.24Fischeryea
14:52.33Fischerjust a typical blond voice
14:52.37Fischernothing kiddy about it.. just squaky
14:52.39Furyformfinally spoke lol
14:52.52Washiyell more like
14:53.03Fischerdefinitely doesnt sound like a kid
14:53.12Furyformwasn't yelling, the sound is just too high
14:54.13FischerSyncness: why u so mad brah ?
14:54.23SyncnessAmerican blondes talk like that?
14:54.25SyncnessHoly fucking shit
14:54.31Syncnessis Australian
14:54.55Fischeraustralian girls talk even funnier
14:55.01Fischerproblem?
14:55.25WyngaleAustralian accent sounds interesting :)
14:55.31SyncnessI find the voice on bigfang's stream irritating
14:55.36Syncnessso I stopped watching it,
14:55.38Fischerthen stop listening to it
14:55.41Fischerand stfu
14:55.43Fischerthanks.
14:55.46SyncnessI did, you fucking asked
14:55.47Washisound more like kid to me.. some older girls might sound like that trough bad sound quality tho
14:56.05Fischerthe sound quality is atrocious.
14:56.09FischerIt's not a kid lol
14:56.14WyngaleGuys, what're you listening, can i hear it ?
14:56.25Syncnesshttp://d3stash.com/stream
14:56.31Syncnessstreams*
14:56.35Wyngalety~
14:56.43AstrapoysFischer stop acting like a boss and like "oh i know everything" jesus
14:56.53Fischerlol
14:56.56SyncnessAstrapoys, he's a troll, a shit one at that
14:56.57FischerWhy mad?
14:57.08FischerI'm just telling it like it is
14:57.11Fischerno reason to be angry brah :)
14:57.15Fischercalm down
14:57.17Syncnesspoint and case
14:57.28Astrapoysim not mad im saying my opinion
14:57.32Fischerokay
14:57.39Syncnesswhich he doesn't give a shit about, cause he's a troll.
14:57.46ChaotiKsome people don't use logic is the problem. im the same way.
14:58.05FischerYou're saying it's a kid, I'm saying it's not.
14:58.10FischerI presented evidence
14:58.11FuryformChaotiK: you don't use logic?
14:58.12Furyform:p
14:58.12Fischeryou didn't.
14:58.19FischerHow does that make me a troll bro +
14:58.21Fischer;)
14:58.23Wyngalelawl
14:58.26SyncnessWhat evidence? lol
14:58.33Syncness*jacky chan I don't even face*
14:58.33FischerThe quality of the stream sound
14:58.39WyngaleFischer, sometimes it's nice if you have a "Wisdom" skill.
14:58.43Fischerthe fact that the streamer has been on for countless hours
14:58.44WyngaleTo stop sayin' crap, it helps.
14:58.46Fischerand doesnt act like a kid
14:58.48Spl4sh3rdoes magical find only work on magical items (blue)?
14:58.49Fischerwhat else?
14:58.51SyncnessI couldn't care less if it's a chick or a kid, sounds like a kid, I don't like it, I stopped listening to it
14:58.55Syncnessnow stop fucking asking about it
14:58.57Syncnessfor christ sake
14:59.01Fischeronly argument u have is, shes not australian
14:59.04Fischernice one bro
14:59.06Fischer:P
14:59.13Syncnesswho the fuck brought australians into this?
14:59.18Fischeryou.
14:59.23Spl4sh3rdoes magical find only work on magical items (blue)???
14:59.23Syncness...................??????
14:59.24Fischerread up
14:59.26Washi:P
14:59.28WyngaleCome on guys, calm down.
14:59.33Syncnessyeah you're a horrible troll
14:59.38FischerI am calm. But Syncness  seems mad
14:59.38Spl4sh3ranyone?
14:59.39Fischer;)
14:59.54Furyformi have to agree with Syncness on at least one thing Fischer, you're a bad troll most of the time
15:00.01FischerNaw
15:00.10WashiSyncness, why do u have to give trolls a bad name
15:00.19SyncnessGood trolls are fucking hilarious
15:00.22Exaiter|sleepinglol, i've been sleeping for 2 hours now
15:00.23Syncnessshit trolls are just shameful
15:00.25FischerOrly?
15:00.26Exaiter|sleepingand, fischer, you're still trolling?
15:00.32ChaotiKSPL4SH34
15:00.33FischerStill?
15:00.35Syncnesslike a facedesk shameful
15:00.45ChaotiKl2google
15:00.47ChaotiKl2forum
15:00.52FischerLewls
15:00.55ChaotiKl2 diablo 2 shit
15:01.00FischerPpl throw around the term troll way too much
15:01.04Fischerthey lost sight of the definition of it
15:01.08Fischer;)
15:01.14WyngaleSyncness: This is world we living in, it full of fat green fellas.
15:01.27FuryformSpl4sh3r: http://classic.battle.net/diablo2exp/items/magic/magicfind.shtml
15:01.27Washiorcs?
15:01.32FischerXD
15:01.33WyngaleExactly washi!
15:01.34Wyngale:p
15:01.34DestructusSo basicly .... The % to weapon dam people are going to have an adv
15:01.36SyncnessI don't want to bring a country joke into this, but the place I live in seems pretty damn friendly
15:01.46Fischeryou don't seem friendly to me Syncness
15:01.53SyncnessOH REALLY
15:01.54Fischerat all in fact. Quite hostile ;)
15:01.55SyncnessI FUCKING WONDER WHY
15:01.56Fischerand angry
15:01.57SyncnessHERPADERP
15:01.58WyngalexD!
15:01.59Fischerlook
15:02.01Fischerhow mad u are
15:02.05Fischersaying those things :P
15:02.08DestructusThe wizard looks powerful...
15:02.10Fischermad troll is mad
15:02.10WyngaleFischer, he is angry cuz you've made him that.
15:02.12Wyngale:)
15:02.15Fischerno.
15:02.15ChaotiKso what names are you guys going to try and steal before other people?
15:02.21FischerHe's angry because hes a half-wit
15:02.21SyncnessDestructus, there's a wizard who killed leroic in 3 seconds flat
15:02.27Fischerwho doesn't know better than to get upset
15:02.29Fischerthat's why.
15:02.53FuryformChaotiK: names aren't unique
15:03.00SyncnessFor every 3 lines you type, I type 1. Figure it out Fischer.
15:03.00Furyformthey'll be like sc2
15:03.06Washii guess once people make alts in full game and give best low lvl gear availible leoric could die in 1 second ;)
15:03.11ChaotiKon rly. so there can be 400 monks all named chucknorris in uswest? no
15:03.15SyncnessDestructus: http://www.youtube.com/user/MrTidus1492
15:03.27WyngaleSyncness: That's what he does, he know how to type, like alot, so it can look like a spamm sometimes.
15:03.29FischerSyncness: Me being smarter than you, complements this fact. Yes.  I agree.
15:03.33DestructusSyncness I know thats what ive been seeing but with the wizard the gear doesnt matter as much its all flat incrase of skill power with some on like the monk they have a % baced on gear so levels and gear make them more powerful
15:03.35ChaotiKthere will be one monk in uswest named chucknorris. ME
15:03.52WyngaleAnd again, as he said, he thinking that he is the most smart person. ;)
15:03.57FischerSyncness: You're just a poor rager kid, nothing more. It's quite normal :)
15:04.09SyncnessDestructus: This is the 3 sec video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuOQ1S5KCYc
15:04.22SyncnessSee how the counter troll worked there?
15:04.39DestructusI know what your saying syncness but im thinking from just numbers
15:04.47Syncnesswhat do you mean just numbers?
15:04.49FuryformChaotiK: if other people see fit to name their characters chucknorris, you won't be unique ;)
15:04.50Syncnesslike damage, stats, dps?
15:04.54Destructusyea
15:05.06Syncnessor skills that add damage rather than % str? sorta thing
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15:05.16SyncnessI don't know the scaling of skills, but atm 3sec wizard, 10 sec barb, not sure about Monk
15:05.17FischerSyncness: I would closely monitor my blood pressure if I was you.
15:05.17Destructusif you look at the % skills are going to by the end of the game be stronger....
15:05.40ChaotiKno
15:05.55ChaotiKthey all scale the same. just in different ways
15:05.57DestructusWell your looking at low level items... how muhc will that change by the end
15:06.13Destructusok explain
15:06.18ChaotiKmonk skills might stay a flat % of weapon damage, and their weapons have more dps as they progress
15:06.25Destructusbecause I wanna roll a wizard
15:06.34WyngaleChaotiK: Imo, i don't like that number values are all green colored. Why ? because i'm not sure that why what are scaling and what are static.
15:06.36ChaotiKbut the wiz gains more dps per level as a base. and then she will need + damage items
15:07.20Fischerdoesn't everything scale?
15:07.24DestructusYes what im saying is not bacsed on the % increae items for the wizard because i havent really looking into that part yet
15:07.29Fischersince everything increases each levelup
15:07.34ChaotiKim pretty sure all of the % are static
15:07.39DestructusThe monk gets both on the skill tho
15:07.39ChaotiKand the #-# are scale
15:07.43WyngaleFischer, you mean everything that is green ? no, all numbers are green, but it doesn't means that they scale.
15:08.00Fischerhave u tested it or seen from streams?
15:08.04DestructusThe % has to go up because every level the skill gets a level up
15:08.08SyncnessDestructus, stacking % doesn't feel right
15:08.18ChaotiKbash at lvl 1 is the same bash at lvl 60, its just your weapon goes from what 5ps to like 500 dps or whatever we see at 60
15:08.21Syncnessactually
15:08.22Syncnesswait no
15:08.23Fischerskills lvl up, so the % lvls up and the attributes lvl up
15:08.25WyngaleAll number on streams are greem, that's fact, and by that you can't say what and how scales.
15:08.27Fischerso dmg lvls up on %
15:08.30Syncnesswith levels, your dmg skills scale as well in numbers
15:08.31ChaotiKno. logic.
15:08.39WyngaleIf they've made diff colors on static and scaling numbers.. i'd be happy.
15:09.03Destructusso its both in increase of % and new weapopn have more damge so thats an second increase of the same skill
15:09.10Fischerthe dps scales.. but the static dmg on the weapon doesnt
15:09.23SyncnessDestructus, we'll find out this week
15:09.23WyngaleFischer, i'm not about weapons at all. :)
15:09.27DestructusIm just looking at the end game who gets the most bonus to the skills per level
15:09.27Fischerbecause ur attack stat increases
15:09.42Syncnessthis shit is too complicated, and you're asking a bunch of people who have no actual experience
15:09.52Syncnessdespite being fans and all
15:09.58Spl4sh3rgonna eat breakfast
15:10.01DestructusWell thats how it works in ANY rpg
15:10.09ChaotiKim 99% positive that any skill that says   %%% does not change from 1 to 60.. what changes is the damage it does based off the weapon you have equipped. higher dps weapon  =  more damage
15:10.14Fischerin theory.. all classes get about the same % bonus to their skills
15:10.16Destructusit has to
15:10.21Fischerbecause all skills are equally high
15:10.27Fischerall stats are the same at lv l60 for all classes
15:10.28SyncnessChaotiK, that sounds right, so it doesn't scale?
15:10.39DestructusIT has to scale!
15:10.40Washiso how does using 2 weapons stack up in dmg if skill is 100% weapon dmg.. does it take 100% of both and add together
15:10.45Destructusthey said they all scale
15:10.45Furyformthe skill itself might not scale, but your weapon will
15:10.49ChaotiKthe skill itself doesn't change....... but the scaling happens from putting on better WEAPONS
15:10.49Furyformso effectively, it scales
15:10.52ChaotiKjesus christ
15:10.54Destructusor the monk is flat by the end
15:11.00Destructusall baced on gear
15:11.04Destructusits has to be a mix
15:11.04Fischerthat might be correct ChaotiK
15:11.08WyngaleTheory is fine, i still want to make sure, and it will happen as soon as i'll be able to play.
15:11.08ChaotiKit is
15:11.18Fischerno way to check it
15:11.20Fischer:)
15:11.24DestructusAsk... some one playing we can check that way
15:11.37SyncnessChaotiK, so what, % skills don't scale, but skills that add damage do?
15:11.37WyngaleThat's what i'm sayin. I'll do it only when i'll be able to play.
15:11.43Destructuslol Well how does no answer help me do my char mapping
15:11.45Fischerso what about
15:11.47ChaotiKand skills that say   ## dmg to ## dmg - all change every level. and then those also get effected by +% damage and +offensive
15:11.50Fischerskills that doesnt require a better weapon
15:11.52SyncnessOr for skills with both, you have Bash with like, 80% dmg +5dmg? wtf
15:11.53Fischerlike wizard spells
15:12.03ChaotiKright
15:12.06Fischeryou're saying all skills are depentant on weapons?
15:12.13Fischereven the wiz
15:12.15Destructusthe wizard has no skills that are % plus dam
15:12.19Destructusthat i can see
15:12.23Fischerhmm
15:12.24Destructusexcept for magic sworrd
15:12.25Fischerim not sure
15:12.42Fischerbut the magic dmg % scales i guess
15:12.43Fischeron the other skills
15:12.53ChaotiKyou can read all of the skills and runestone effects and passives here - diablo3characterbuilds.com ---  look at the skills that have % vs. the ones that dont.    most of the % ones are all weapon based
15:12.55Fischersince wizzies dont use weapons for dmg'er multiplier
15:13.17DestructusWell anything with a % is aways going to beat out ##++ over all
15:13.26ChaotiKno it isn't
15:13.31Fischerlol
15:13.31WyngaleFor example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iBTFURT0To
15:13.34SyncnessChaotiK, duuuuuuuuuude, shameless plug man
15:13.41ChaotiKwell this guy needs to read
15:13.51ChaotiKhes like 5 months behind
15:13.54WyngaleIt just showing all ingame skills that monk have.
15:13.55Destructusthis guy i assume is me?
15:13.57FuryformSyncness: people post all kinds of shit in here
15:14.01ChaotiKaye
15:14.04SyncnessI was joking
15:14.06Fischerbut ChaotiK
15:14.10Fischerlets say
15:14.15SyncnessI figured *shameless plug* was like a globally known thing
15:14.15Syncnessanyway
15:14.22ChaotiKwhy would you assume that a % skill will always do more damage than a skill with a flat ## ?
15:14.24Fischerthat each lvl u dont get new items... u dont get higher dmg either.. that doesnt sound right
15:14.39Destructusyou always get new items...
15:14.41SyncnessMaybe the % of a skill doesn't change, but the added value changes
15:14.47Fischerexample.. if a new barb lvls 3 times.. but doesnt change his axe or whatever.. he gets no benefit of having +3 higher lvl skills
15:14.49Fischerthis is bad
15:14.52ChaotiKfisher you have to take into account that Offensive increases your damage when you level too
15:14.54ChaotiKso it does
15:14.54Syncnessso there's, constant % + variable value, variable value changes
15:14.55ChaotiKget better
15:14.56Syncnessper level
15:14.56Fischeryes
15:14.58Syncnessthat'd make sense
15:14.59Fischerbut not alot
15:15.02Fischerye i know that
15:15.04Fischerbut
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15:15.32DestructusThe % is always going to win Epecally if its 100+
15:15.39Fischeri think some skills might scale with weapon, skill AND attribute
15:15.41ChaotiKim pretty sure wizard gear with +% to wizard damage is = to a barb with a higher dps axe if that makes sense
15:15.54ChaotiKdestructus. explain your logic
15:16.02DestructusSo those orbs that the wizard gets are %
15:16.18WyngaleFischer, that's why it's nice if they show EXACTLY what values are static and what values scaling in SKILLS description.
15:16.23WyngaleIt's not that hard to do
15:16.26WyngaleAnd it makes things simple
15:16.35DestructusChaotik would you rather have +20 to exp or plus 5% ring
15:16.49Syncnesslower levels +20, later on +5%
15:16.52ChaotiKdepends on how much % a mob gives
15:16.55WyngaleBut now.. we just can't "assume" which is not nice.
15:16.58DestructusIf the damage is always going up you always have a higher ammount with the % then a basic number
15:17.04WyngaleI mean.. we CAN, but it's..
15:17.17WashiChaotiK, monks passives doesn't look that offensive based, more like tanking and spirit regen :P.. last time i checked em he had some passives that gave crit dmg/crit rating if i remebmer right
15:17.21ChaotiKif one kill gives me 10 exp id rather have the +20.. but if one kill giave me 500 id have the +5%
15:17.32DestructusWell if that number is always a number thats rising! its going to be better
15:17.45Destructusin a game like diablo the numbers are going up all the time
15:17.45ChaotiKwashi you were reading outdated info. this was taken from the beta
15:18.02WashiChaotiK, well i read it some weeks ago so yea
15:18.02WyngaleEvery single monk passive have changed since august leak.
15:18.04ChaotiKdestructus. you are stupid im sorry. i can't be nice to you anymore
15:18.05Fischerwhat about crits lol
15:18.08DestructusSo if you are killing stuff and moving forward the % skills are always going t do more
15:18.11WyngaleNot sure about other classes.
15:18.24Washithe monk passives look.. lot different now
15:18.34ChaotiKyou are comparing apples to oranges son
15:18.48ChaotiKa skill that scales off % weapon damage will keep going up as your gear goe sup
15:18.49FischerDestructus: if the weapon dmg doesnt rise then it doesnt get higher
15:18.49ChaotiKand
15:18.53Fischeryes
15:18.56FischerChaotiK:  is right
15:19.01Fischergear sets the limit
15:19.07ChaotiKa skill that has a flat ## and then grows when you get +% Damage gear.. always goes up
15:19.08Fischerand since there is limit on gear
15:19.19Destructusbut the skill had the % not the geat
15:19.21ChaotiKeither way. both skills advance with better gear
15:19.43Washiit's a diablo game.. gear means much :P
15:19.45ChaotiKif you don't understand that. god help u
15:19.49FuryformChaotiK
15:19.57FuryformDH: Multishot - broke link
15:20.04ChaotiKlies
15:20.07Washithere was some broken links
15:20.12Washilast night when i checked
15:20.26Furyformmultisho.html heh, i think you missed the t :)
15:20.33ChaotiKyea i fixed some
15:20.35Syncnessomg, it's tuesday
15:20.36Syncnessfffffffff
15:20.40Fischer...
15:20.48Syncness*in Australia
15:20.52SyncnessYou guys are getting there
15:20.53Fischerwh ogives a shit
15:21.01Fischerabout australia
15:21.03Syncnesserr, beta is most likely coming out this week?
15:21.12Syncnessnobody asked you
15:21.19Fischerits monday everywhere else in the world
15:21.21Fischerand aus always gets stuff last
15:21.23Fischer:P
15:21.31Syncnesscool story
15:21.35Fischery
15:21.39Fischerand true
15:22.01WyngaleCome on guys, stop it, if you want to bullyin' each other there is always is a query.. brah.
15:22.25ChaotiKmultishot works
15:22.27ChaotiKnow
15:22.27DestructusGenerate: 6 Spirit per attack Description: Project lines of pure force over a short distance for 125% weapon damage.... If the 125% does up per level plus new gear you have the power to beat out any flat ammount...
15:22.36Furyform:)
15:22.44Furyformty sir
15:22.45SyncnessDestructus, no way 125% goes up in value
15:22.53ChaotiKthe 120% doesn't go up. it says 125% always
15:22.58Destructusso why id it a green vlause
15:23.05ChaotiK125% **
15:23.11Wyngalebecause blizz've made you confused ! xD
15:23.11SyncnessIt might have 125% + 50 damage or something at level 1
15:23.17Syncnessthen level 2, 125% + 60 or something
15:23.17ChaotiKthey are hilighting it  so you can fucking read it
15:23.19Syncnessthat'd make sense.
15:23.20SyncnessLOL
15:23.30DestructusStop curseing man
15:23.38Syncnessswearing makes you notice shit
15:23.43Destructusjust talking not yelling at you
15:23.45Syncnessit emphasis stuff you otherwise would've missed
15:23.47ChaotiKswearing = green highlight
15:23.52Syncnesswho the fuck is yelling at you?
15:23.52Destructusright
15:23.57SyncnessTHIS IS FUCKING YELLING AT YOU IDIOT
15:23.59Syncnessexample
15:23.59WyngaleImo, scaling - Green, static - Blue, change it, and world will never ASK stupid qustions once again!
15:24.04Destructusnow im an idiot
15:24.10SyncnessOnly if you think so
15:24.13Destructusif the green scales its better
15:24.39WyngaleDestructus: It's all green, Spirit Generate per attack, Spirit Cost, Cooldown..
15:24.44Destructusim just plannng out my guy
15:24.47WyngaleThat's why it meakes you wonder after a while.
15:24.50ChaotiKbut logically since your weapon damage gets higher as you level, the skill damage gets higher.. so there is no need to keep raising the % on the skill
15:24.51Destructusasking for help
15:25.12Destructusthen the skill dosent level up...
15:25.18ChaotiKright it doesn't
15:25.21Fischerthe lvls up to 60
15:25.22WyngaleChaotiK, not every single founds it logical, you should make them understand it once and for all by showing difference.
15:25.26Fischerthe weapon lvls up to 61
15:25.27Fischerthen nothing lvls up
15:25.32ChaotiKits the same skill from lvl 1 to lvl 60. the exact same skill
15:25.35Fischercos u reached endgame
15:25.44ChaotiKwnygale i think we have explained it like 20 times
15:25.56WyngaleWill you exaplin same thing over and over again ?
15:26.00WyngaleBecause that's what people are.
15:26.13Washistats will raise the dmg aswell? :P
15:26.18ChaotiKi will make a video on it in 30 minutes
15:26.18FischerDestructus: gear will be better and better + u get offensive stats every level
15:26.20WyngaleYou should make things clear, and no more stupid qustions will appear.
15:26.24Fischerthis means that the skill gets better every level too
15:26.29Fischerbecause it depends on the weapon and attribute
15:26.35ChaotiKzing!
15:26.39Fischerso u dont need to raise the % on skills
15:26.44Fischerbecause gear + attribute
15:26.46Fischerdoes that already
15:27.12Fischerattribute affects your weapon dmg, your weapon dmg affects your skill dmg
15:27.15Fischerunderstand?
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15:27.33ChaotiKplus this is blizzard. if the monk was doing 50% more damage than a wizard at 60, they would adjust it so its even
15:27.38Fischery
15:27.39Fischernp
15:27.44Fischerthey adjust numbers all the time
15:27.44WyngaleNice, you just explained it to 0,000001% of battle.net players.
15:27.46Fischertakes 3 sec
15:27.49WyngaleNow get that cookie.
15:27.53Fischer:D:D:D
15:27.53ChaotiKso just pick 6 fun skills and kill shit
15:27.59Fischercos in the end
15:28.02Fischerit will be the end
15:28.04Fischersame*
15:28.10Fischerall skills will be equally as good in the end
15:28.14Fischerif they balance it right
15:28.15Fischerand they will
15:28.20Furyformin the end it will be the end
15:28.27Furyform:D
15:28.38Fischerthats the whole point of the skill system bro
15:28.44FischerD2 has 2-3 buuilds for max dmg
15:28.50Fischerin D3.. all builds potentially do max dmg
15:28.56WyngaleIt's maybe common sense, but i still prefer to wait and see how blizz will balance it, i'm not going to argue about it.
15:28.57Fischerdependong on the situation ofc
15:28.58Washidepends how u use em
15:29.03Fischeryeye
15:29.05Fischeras i said
15:29.14Washiyou were just reading my mind
15:29.17Fischerperfect balance is impossible
15:29.21Fischerbut they come close
15:29.41WyngaleNot like i'm waiting for perfect balance..
15:29.43Wyngale:p
15:30.03WyngaleIt's like having utopic mind set.
15:30.06Washii dont like if they do big changes too often :P
15:30.09Fischerbtw guys
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15:30.18DestructusDoes any webite have a data base on leveling skills stats from beta footage yet?
15:30.18Fischerface-to-face trading .. first screenshot i have seen of it
15:30.20Fischerhttp://img24.imageshack.us/img24/5842/tradewindow.png
15:30.22Fischercheck it out
15:30.23Fischer:P
15:30.40WyngaleYeah, trade.
15:30.42WyngaleSweet
15:30.45Furyformdiamond skin, storm armor, energy armor, slow time, teleport, archon <- max dps wizard
15:30.50SyncnessEh... why did they limit the slots so much?
15:30.54Syncnessfor trade
15:31.11Fischerco
15:31.12Fischers
15:31.19Fischerthey want most of the trading to be done on the AH i guess
15:31.21Fischer-.-
15:31.29Fischerand not face2face
15:31.55SyncnessTrue that!
15:32.03SyncnessBut what about item for item... o.o
15:32.10Furyformthey don't want an item based currency for this game
15:32.33Syncness....
15:32.35SyncnessWait
15:32.36Fischernope
15:32.38SyncnessFuryform, are you serious
15:32.39Furyformitem for item works fine with the standard trade system
15:32.42Washii guess trading is more like for friends to pass stuff
15:32.47Fischeryes
15:32.49traviismonsterI'll give you over 20 SOJ's for that axe*  :P
15:32.51Syncnesswe really expect gold to be of trading value in this game?
15:32.53Fischerthe focus is on the AH as i said
15:32.57Fischeryes Syncness
15:32.59FuryformSyncness: yes
15:32.59Fischerofc why wouldnt it
15:33.07Fischerthey said this many many times
15:33.18Fischergold will be used ALOT and u will neeed it
15:33.20traviismonsterI'm sure the AH will be fine.
15:33.23Fischerit will
15:33.26Fischerjust whiners
15:33.29Fischerwho know nothing
15:33.34traviismonsterRight.
15:33.36Fischer:P
15:34.07traviismonsterI mean the AH isn't even in the BETA, right? So why are people hating it? Oh wait, I know, "This isn't WoW".
15:34.21traviismonster:P
15:34.25WyngaleWhy are you sayin' that everyone hating it ?
15:34.29WyngaleI don't mind it to be there.
15:34.48WyngaleI'll use gold AH only, anyway.
15:34.48traviismonsterI mean "Everyone" as a general term,
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15:34.57WyngaleBad TERM! :p
15:35.01traviismonsterFine,
15:35.09traviismonsterI'll rephrase.
15:35.16FischerWyngale:
15:35.17Furyformtraviis, most of the people who have a problem with auction houses are pissed because real money is being supported by blizzard ;)
15:35.19Syncnesstraviismonster, it's the wording and haters
15:35.21Fischeru know that many have whined about it
15:35.22Wyngale"..Why most of you.."
15:35.29FischerAH is the most whined about and talked about feature
15:35.31Syncnessif it was called the marketplace or some shit, you wouldn't get nearly as many WoW trolls
15:35.33Fischeralot of ppl hate it and whine
15:35.40traviismonster"a handful of people"
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15:35.43traviismonster:P
15:35.45WyngaleFischer, Everyone still not "most" make your mind clear.
15:35.52Furyformburies Magistrate
15:36.04traviismonster"The ugly ducklings"
15:36.21FischerRMAH and gold AH will co-exist fine
15:36.29Furyformyup
15:36.33Fischersince gold will have a unique role in various places
15:36.33traviismonstermmhm
15:36.36traviismonsterI'm all for it.
15:37.00Furyformwe also have item sinks, people just don't realize it yet cause we don't get to do the endgame crafting in beta
15:37.02Fischerhate these wannabe economists thinkign they know all the shit
15:37.19traviismonsterOh, did you read that post too?
15:37.29Furyformtraviismonster, me?
15:37.46ChaotiKfischer threre could be a fundemantal flaw though. its not likely but it could happen.
15:37.54Fischerwe have, crafting sinks, stash sink, respec sink, rune respec sink, jewels, items, repair, AH sinks, event sinks
15:38.05traviismonsterwell, anyone actually, on the official site, someone said the RMAH is a Ponzi Scheme
15:38.06SyncnessHaving gold as an actualy currency in diablo feels weird as
15:38.07Furyformrespec has no sink
15:38.10FischerChaotiK: dont see what that should be
15:38.11ChaotiKlike i said a few days ago. if 50 chinese farmers decide to buy out a good chuck of .. lets say... 'crafting material'
15:38.14Washiwell the dupes were much more fucked up in D2 than RMAH will ever be for D3..  and we still played D2 fine :P
15:38.15Fischerbut respec could get a sink
15:38.18Furyformand rune respec doesn't sink either
15:38.18Fischerin like.. 3 sec
15:38.20Fischerif they wanted to
15:38.24Fischerno not in the beta..
15:38.31Fischer3 months to release.. they willchange it 100 %
15:38.33Fischer:)
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15:38.34Fischerdont worry
15:38.44Furyformif there's a problem, that's something they can consider
15:38.46Fischernothing is final yet
15:38.49Furyformbut there's no guarantee it will change
15:38.57Fischerno not if there no problem
15:39.07Fischerjust fix
15:39.09Fischerif there is.. then
15:39.22Fischerbesides.. respeccing skills is special
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15:39.31Fischercos u shouldnt be able to do that for free
15:39.32Fischeralways
15:39.32ChaotiKif i bought out a very important crafting resource on the AH and only put it back for sale with real $$.. that could be an issue
15:39.39Furyformyou're arguing with yourself now, cause you surely didn't counter what i said
15:39.40Furyformlol
15:39.53Wyngalelol
15:39.54Fischerno im saying as a gold sink it moight not be needed
15:40.05Fischerbut they could limit the respec stuff in other ways
15:40.09Fischernot tied to the gold ofc :P
15:40.23Fischerjust saying that the respec feature definitely needs limits imo
15:40.25SyncnessChaotiK, isn't that called merching
15:40.28ChaotiKsince we are not using a "tree" and there isn't really one skill you are building up to.. there is no need for respec
15:40.30FuryformChaotiK: people will surely do that :)
15:40.37ChaotiKyes they will
15:40.37Fischerwe have runetones ChaotiK
15:40.43Fischerthey are effectively the new skill tree
15:40.44Fischerso
15:40.54Furyformthere is no treee
15:40.56Fischerthere will be building of 6 skills but u can still change if u want
15:41.04Fischerif u want to change.. it will cost u money
15:41.09Furyformyou don't require one thing to get another thing
15:41.12Fischerso u have to focus more and think about what 6 skills u want
15:41.14Furyformif you want one thing, here you can have it
15:41.15Fischerand not just choose random
15:41.17Furyformthus, no tree
15:41.38Simpythere are skill choices to be made anyway
15:41.47traviismonsterRunes
15:41.51ChaotiKdo we know if runestones are re-usable or they vanish once they are replaced?
15:41.54Fischerrespec cost limit or cooldown + runestones will ensure costumization
15:41.56Fischerand uniqueness
15:41.58Fischertrust me
15:42.04Fischerit will work
15:42.12SimpyChaotiK: last we heard yea, but they were bind to that kind of skill
15:42.25ChaotiKi don't even know what yall are talking about lol
15:42.28Simpybut that was just a theory
15:42.31Syncnessyou guys wanna post this on blizzard forums, where something will be done?
15:42.34Syncnessinstead of sandboxing here
15:42.40Fischerthere are alredy threats
15:42.41Syncnessat least make a post or something
15:42.43Fischerathreads
15:42.46Fischerabout this
15:42.47SimpyRune + skill = new skill
15:42.50Fischeron the beta feedback forum go read it
15:42.52ChaotiKif you lose runestones when changing a skill.. then thats a huge potential gold sink
15:42.52Fischer-.-
15:42.52FuryformSyncness: you don't hang here enough...we sandbox all the time
15:42.53Furyformlol
15:42.57Simpyaka skill + 6 runes = 7 skills
15:43.09Fischerno lol
15:43.11Wyngale6 runes ?
15:43.12SyncnessFuryform, probably not active a lot, I'm idle quite a bit though
15:43.16Fischer6 skills
15:43.17Fischer6 runes
15:43.20Furyformour conversations move too quickly for a forum to keep up
15:43.23Simpyyea, I'm tired ^^
15:43.26ChaotiK5 runes. 5 skills
15:43.27WyngaleAlright )
15:43.29Furyformone post per minute does not suit us
15:43.41SimpyChaotiK: remember there's the unruned skill aswell
15:43.44Simpyso 6 skills
15:43.47ChaotiKthe base skill can't really count
15:43.51Fischerrespec rune and respec skills could have huge goldsinks
15:43.51Simpywhy not ?
15:43.54Fischerto keep economy stable
15:43.56ChaotiKcause you have to rune it to make it better. period
15:44.04Wyngalebecause you'll not use one, that's what his point i think.
15:44.05Simpyno, you rune to CHANGE it
15:44.08WyngaleBuut, i still will count it.
15:44.09traviismonsterI want a golden sink... :o
15:44.17Fischerlol
15:44.18Furyformif they need more gold sinks, that's just one of the considerations Fischer; i'm sure they've thought about it
15:44.23ChaotiKand the changes are ALWAYS better than the original skill. they said that
15:44.24Fischerthey have
15:44.28Furyformbut until the game gets rolling they won't be able to be sure how it'll work out
15:44.32Fischerim just saying..
15:44.43Wyngale6 different skill per skill, if you want me to put that way.
15:44.44Furyformyou're just saying the same things over and over again?
15:44.44Fischerregardless of gold.. there SHOULD be a limit to respeccing
15:44.48Fischerso u cdannot do it over and over
15:44.48WyngaleSkill animation*
15:44.50Fischerno im not
15:44.52ChaotiKgo look at every runestone effect and tell me one skill that doesn't get better by having a runestone
15:44.52Fischerlisten to me
15:45.01Furyformyou started that over 5 minutes ago
15:45.02SimpyChaotiK: so if a skill is worse than another skill it cease to be a skill ?
15:45.03Fischerrespeccing runes and respeccing skills needs limits.. restrictions
15:45.05Furyformand you're still saying the same things
15:45.08Fischerone of those restrictions
15:45.10Fischercan be gold
15:45.14Fischeranother could be cooldown
15:45.15Fischeror so
15:45.21Fischerdepends
15:45.28SyncnessI still remember when WoW had a cooldown on respeccing
15:45.30Syncnessthat shit sucked balls
15:45.33Fischerrestrictions = good
15:45.33WyngaleChaotiK, it's not the point, there is 6 diff animations, that's the point of counting it that way. You still have to use skill without run until you found one.
15:45.37Wyngalewithout rune*
15:45.51ChaotiKsimpy its like this..  "every base skill turns into 1 of 5 other skills"
15:46.11Simpywell it is still an OPTION to have it without a rune
15:46.15Fischer1 rune = 1 skill.. not 1 rune = 2 skills
15:46.15ChaotiKand you won't plan a character based off the base skill
15:46.20ChaotiKyou will plan based off the runestones
15:46.22Simpywhich means there are 6 choices per skill = your specc
15:46.25Fischerno its not an option
15:46.27ChaotiKso you have 5 skills to choose from
15:46.29WyngaleSimpy is right.
15:46.30FuryformSyncness: what sucked on WoW at the time that respecs had a cd was the expansion, not just the cooldown :p
15:46.31Fischeru have 6
15:46.36Wyngale6!
15:46.38Fischeronce u rune ANY skill
15:46.40Fischeru cannot go back
15:46.43Fischerto the original
15:46.48Fischerwithout removing the rune
15:46.53Fischerso
15:46.54ChaotiKno. base skill transforms to 1 of 5 better skills. 5 skills
15:46.56Simpyyou do not know that Fischer
15:46.57Fischer1 rune = 1 skill
15:47.00SyncnessI liked BC the best of all the expansions
15:47.01Fischeri do
15:47.13Simpyofc you can
15:47.17Simpyrune is like a gem
15:47.24WyngaleYou can withdraw it
15:47.27Fischer30 skills = u can put 1 into each of them
15:47.30Fischer= 30 skills
15:47.34Fischerstill
15:47.34Simpyindeed and then you will have the original effect
15:47.35Fischernot 31
15:47.36Fischernot 32
15:47.37Fischerbut 30
15:47.45Syncnesseven with the gold sink/cost for respeccing, who's to decide what's a resonable amount?
15:47.48Furyformgems just add stats or damage, runes are completely changing skills
15:47.48WyngaleWhat Simpy said ^
15:47.49Furyform>.>
15:47.54Fischerblizzard will figure that out Syncness
15:47.59SyncnessLater on, everyone is going to have tons of gold for basic neccesities
15:48.03Fischerthey can monitor the game and the fluctuations in the game
15:48.22Furyformthere are runes that completely void the original effect and do something different too
15:48.25ChaotiKrepairing end game gear in d2 got expensive. really f'n expensive
15:48.34WyngaleYes, Fury, that's right.
15:48.38SimpyFischer:  imagine having energy twister and putting a rune in it and it makes it into a defensive skill .. .but you want the offensive skill and then go back to the original effect (skill)
15:48.45SyncnessChaotiK, repairing? you mean dying and ressing merc?
15:48.47cH3rssince it was stated, that at least one runeeffect wont totally change the way a skill works but improves it i thinkt 5 would be logical although you have 6 options really
15:48.50Syncnessressing merc was a fucking bitch
15:48.55ChaotiKthat too
15:48.57FischerSimpy: then u have to remove the rune
15:49.02Simpyyes
15:49.03WyngaleLike for example Mystic Ally skill, someone have read Rune effects ?
15:49.03ChaotiKif you were a melee class. repairing is a bitch
15:49.04Fischeru still only have 1 energy skill
15:49.06Fischeryes
15:49.07WyngaleThey are all way to different.
15:49.08Fischerso 1 skill = 1 rune
15:49.08Furyformya the merc was more of a problem than repairing most of the time
15:49.19Fischer30 skills = 30 rune effects potentially
15:49.22Fischer6 skill slots
15:49.26Fischerfrom 30
15:49.29Fischerto choose
15:49.39ChaotiKi can't count Bash as 1 skill. because i won't use bash end game. i will use 1 of 5 runestone variations of bash
15:49.40ChaotiKso 5
15:49.41Wyngale5 runes + unattuned skill = 6 diff options per skill.
15:49.42Fischervery simple to understand
15:49.43SimpyI'm pretty sure it's 20ish skills per char
15:49.52Simpydon't think you can rune the passive
15:49.58ChaotiK1 2 3 4 FIIFTH!
15:50.00Fischerno
15:50.00WyngaleNo, i'm sure you can't
15:50.07Simpyno chaotic
15:50.09Fischeru cant have unattened + rune
15:50.11Fischer...
15:50.12Simpy<PROTECTED>
15:50.12ChaotiKwyngale nobody is going to KEEP the base skills
15:50.13FischerU CAN HAVE EITHE r
15:50.15Fischerrune or unattend
15:50.16Fischernot both
15:50.17FischerFFS
15:50.20Furyformwhat are you guys arguing about
15:50.22Fischerm.53,34
15:50.25WyngaleUnatunned SKILL is still a skill variation
15:50.27Simpywe are not talking about that Fischer ... sigh
15:50.30Furyformlets take a stop here for a second and figure out what the fuck is going on
15:50.31Wyngale6 skill variations per one skill
15:50.31ChaotiKits not. its the BASE
15:50.33ChaotiKBASE
15:50.39Furyformcause nobody appears to be on the same page
15:50.40Furyformlol
15:50.44Fischerwell yea
15:50.50Fischerbut u would never want to have the unattuned one
15:50.51SimpyBase is still a variation albeit a worse one
15:50.55Fischerever
15:50.58Link|Worksooo..... BETA?!
15:51.01ChaotiKyea. you NEVER want to NOT rune a skill
15:51.04Fischerthere is no reason to have the unattuned version ever
15:51.07Fischerthats the point
15:51.08ChaotiKever
15:51.11Fischeryes
15:51.12WyngaleIt doesn't matter want or not, you still CAN, and that's why it counted.
15:51.15ChaotiKever
15:51.19Link|WorkFischer: havnt got any runes yet?
15:51.21Furyformyou'll use the unattuned version when you don't have a rune
15:51.22SimpyChaotiK: what if all runes makes the skill into something you do not want but liked to original effect ?
15:51.23Fischerbut we will
15:51.25Fischerin act 2
15:51.30Syncnessbtw guys
15:51.31Fischeract 2 normal
15:51.33SyncnessAre there runewords in d3?
15:51.34Fischeris like lvl 13
15:51.35traviismonsterThere are 5 rune stones; Crimson, Indigo, Obsidian, Golden, Alabaster :|
15:51.36Fischerno
15:51.37Washinot sure, but for me it looks bit like to be effective at max lvl, u have to choose skill combo well and match it with good passives.. so switching skills during combat might not be that good thing.. if u pick skill that ur passives doesnt support
15:51.39ChaotiKsimpy you will be using a gimp skill then
15:51.40Simpyno Syncness
15:51.43Syncnessekjrnvwrenjt
15:51.43SyncnessWHAT
15:51.45SyncnessNO RUNEWORDS?
15:51.46Link|Workyeah you make them with the talisman Syncness
15:51.55Syncness....?????
15:52.00Furyformthere are no runes related to d2 runes
15:52.02Furyformso no runewords
15:52.04FischerThe point is, that NOBODY.. i mean NOBODY in the world.. will use unattuned skills, once runes are in..
15:52.07Fischerits simple
15:52.11ChaotiKever
15:52.14Link|Workfischer i will brah
15:52.17SimpyChaotiK: we are not talking about the perfect build here but how many variations there will be (speccs)
15:52.18Link|Workalways
15:52.18FuryformFischer: yes they will
15:52.18Fischerno u wont
15:52.19Fischer:P
15:52.21WyngaleAnd it's different point that we meant.
15:52.23Furyformthere are people who don't know how to play
15:52.25Link|Workjust to spite you ;D
15:52.27ChaotiKi can use "bash" or i can use "bash your face in with a runed skill that is better PERIOD"
15:52.28Furyformand are unfortunate enough not to learn
15:52.31SyncnessLink|Work, I knew that was coming, lol
15:52.32Fischerthey will only because they're either.. gimpoing themselves intentionally
15:52.33Fischeror
15:52.34Fischerretarded
15:52.35Simpyand everyone will have the original effect first
15:52.42FischerI SAID UNTIL RUNES
15:52.43Fischerffs
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15:52.46Fischer:D
15:52.57SimpyFischer ... L2 not spam please
15:53.03Fischerwhen runes come into the game... only tards will have unattuned :D
15:53.03ChaotiKthen you must leave out the build variations that include skills that can never be as good as the runed version
15:53.20ChaotiKwhich is every base skill
15:53.30Fischerbase skills dont count
15:53.33FischerTHE END
15:53.33Fischer:P
15:53.35ChaotiKlol
15:53.35Simpypff
15:53.41WyngaleUnlogical logic, thanks.
15:53.44traviismonsterSays who >.>
15:53.52traviismonsterBase skill is still a skill.
15:53.57ChaotiKthis is a pointless argument. were both right.. technically
15:53.57Wyngale^ this
15:53.58Fischerbase skills dont count..because they have the option to become 1-5 effects
15:54.01Fischerits still the same skill
15:54.03Fischerso
15:54.12SimpyFischer how many variations of skills can you have on a skill like "energy twister" ?
15:54.17Link|Workooo the server emu is out
15:54.21WyngaleIt still present, you can't not count something that still exist!
15:54.23ChaotiKlink
15:54.24Fischerminimum 1 of 5 of the runestones. .dont change the base skill only .. dmg or maybe cooldown.. or ressource cost
15:54.24ChaotiKlink
15:54.28ChaotiKLInk LINK!
15:54.30FuryformLink|Work: link
15:54.39Link|Work2 secs
15:54.40FischerSimpy:  5
15:54.44Fischernot including the base
15:54.48Fischerbecause thats stupid
15:54.49ChaotiKhighjacking our argument and you don't include the LINK
15:55.01Link|Workhttp://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/3123037348
15:55.01Syncnessare we talking about link person or link as in hyperlink
15:55.02SimpyFischer: either you are stupid or you did not read my question
15:55.09SyncnessSimpy, he's a troll
15:55.10Syncnessgo figure
15:55.14ChaotiKfischer if you were a hot bitch id let you rub me
15:55.14Fischeri read it
15:55.33FuryformLink|Work: props on shutting them the fuck up
15:55.33WyngaleFischer, if something looks stupid for you, it doesn't mean that it doesn't countin in programm sense.
15:55.35Furyform:)
15:55.36Fischerenergy twister has 5 variations
15:55.39SimpyI did not say "how many smart skills" or how many "best skill" I said how many variations
15:55.41WyngaleIf you can't see the point, keep it up.
15:55.43Fischernot including the base
15:55.52Simpyincluding the base it has 6 then
15:55.54Fischer5 + useless base
15:55.58Link|Workfuryform you on eu?
15:56.01Fischerbut nobody counts the base as im saying
15:56.02Simpyyou do not know that
15:56.07FuryformLink|Work: us :(
15:56.08Fischerits useless counting on it.. since nobody will use it
15:56.10Fischerare u retarded?
15:56.11FischerI KNOW
15:56.13Fischercos..
15:56.17Fischerbase skills are useless and shitty
15:56.19Simpymaybe one of the rune effects are useless, will you say there's only 4 effects then ?
15:56.19Link|Workoh well!
15:56.27Fischerno rune effects are useless
15:56.35ChaotiKevery rune effect makes the base skill better
15:56.36ChaotiKnot worse
15:56.38Fischeryes
15:56.41Fischeresxactly
15:56.45Simpyno
15:56.46Fischerthus, u cannot count the base as anything
15:56.46FuryformFischer: the base skill can still count for the players who want to play with the extra challenge of using base skills
15:56.48Fischerits not a variation
15:56.49Fischerit doesnt change
15:56.55Fischerhence its not a variation
15:56.55ChaotiKextra challenge rofl
15:56.57Furyformi just gave a completely logical reason to count the 6th variation
15:56.59Furyformnow STFU
15:57.01Simpylol, have you even read the changes ?
15:57.09Fischeri have
15:57.10Fischerall of them
15:57.11Furyform:)
15:57.11Fischeryes
15:57.13Fischerso
15:57.21Simpysome skills becomes completely different
15:57.25Fischerso ?
15:57.29ChaotiKand some just get lower cost or more damage
15:57.32Fischery
15:57.36ChaotiKeithe way. base gets changed
15:57.36Fischerstill better than base useless shit
15:57.39Simpyyou can only say something is better / worse if you compare them
15:57.39WyngaleSimpy, drop it, someone that blind can't seem to understand a fact.
15:57.46FuryformSimpy: you're not helping to end this
15:57.49Furyformyou're just making it worse
15:57.50Fischerthe base changes  = variation
15:57.51Fischerno change = not variation
15:57.57Fischerget it ?
15:58.01Simpyhow can you compare if a defensive skill is better / worse than an offensive skill =
15:58.03Simpy?
15:58.06Fischeromg..
15:58.08Fischeru are so fucking
15:58.09FischerSTUPID
15:58.09Fischer_¤%:#Q
15:58.10Fischer:D
15:58.12WyngaleSimpy: please, he is too stupid.
15:58.12Fischerok im out
15:58.25SimpyI dislike tunnelvision :(
15:58.30FischerI dislike you
15:58.31cH3rsthere are no facts you are argueing about ... you all know how it works and just argue about "counting it" or not couting it in your own freakin minds ... stop that bs ^^
15:58.35WyngaleSimply: you'll make it even worse.
15:58.57HP-X|Arthasi love calling tech support!
15:59.02HP-X|ArthasWhat modem do you have?
15:59.10SimpyI like reason and knowledge ... spamming the channel or writing stuff in caps definately does not make it true
15:59.13traviismonsterHmm, so, does anybody want to dance with me?
15:59.18traviismonster^_^
15:59.19cH3rsthere are 6 options of which the original one is bad and wont be used if u can rune it ... so u can count 6 options of which 5 are viable
15:59.23FuryformSimpy: i like you too
15:59.28Furyformhave my babies
15:59.45SimpyFuryform: I'm married, but thx ^^
15:59.45WyngaleSimpy: there there is programmed 6 varietions, why do you want to force someone to take that point ? You know tis, and it's enough!
15:59.51FischercH3rs: same as saying 5 counts
16:00.03Fischerbecause the last isnt viable, and thus, should not be counted as a variation
16:00.03cH3rsyeah well ... depends how you look at it
16:00.04SimpyI'm not forcing anything
16:00.07Fischerbecause effectively, nobody will use it
16:00.08FuryformSimpy: all the good ones are taken :(
16:00.11Link|WorkBYEEE FIISSCHHEERRRR
16:00.17ChaotiKarthas i worked for yall dsl tech support   customers call in bitching at me to fix their internet.. i tell them stop downloading porn. most of the issues were from spyware
16:00.28FischercH3rs: the skill doesnt change, and therefore, it's not a variation of the original
16:00.34Fischersimple semantics
16:00.42WyngalecH3rs: see ? xD
16:00.43WyngaleRofl
16:00.54Simpyit's like saying 0 is not a number
16:01.00Fischervariation implies equality
16:01.05Fischerno its not
16:01.06Washi0 is nothing
16:01.09Washiits plain 0
16:01.10cH3rsfischer: yes of course, but it IS an option ... so if you count options there are 6 ... and we all know that the original wont be used !
16:01.18Simpyyea, but it's still a possibility
16:01.19WyngaleRofl.. Washi, tell it to programmers.
16:01.19Fischertherefore
16:01.23SyncnessSimpy, he's trolling
16:01.23Fischerthere are 5 options
16:01.25Syncnesszzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
16:01.32Fischerseeing as the sixth option isnt really an option
16:01.38Fischeras nobody will use it .d
16:01.45Fischernot a viable option anyway
16:01.48cH3rsin fact it would be the first ^^
16:01.56Fischeruntil runes, yes.
16:01.58Fischerbut after, no
16:02.01traviismonsterDoes anybody want a pizza?
16:02.05Wyngaleno!
16:02.07Wyngale:)
16:02.10Washieveryone will use runeless skills
16:02.11WyngaleBut thanks for asking
16:02.12SimpyI can have a banana or I can have a banana painted 5 different ways
16:02.13traviismonstermore ofor me
16:02.15traviismonster:D
16:02.20Simpy0 - plain banana
16:02.21Furyformchoose a skill, said skill comes with skillset of 6 variations: normal, alabaster, crimson, obsidian, indigo, golden
16:02.21traviismonsterfor me*
16:02.21FischerWashi: until act 2 yes
16:02.22Washieveryone must use runesless skill.. until they find runes
16:02.23ChaotiKif you are using this to "theory craft best builds"  you wouldn't ever consider a base, unruned skill.. thats all im saying
16:02.35Furyformtherefore, the original skill can count as a variation
16:02.36Simpy1 - blue 2- green ... etc.
16:02.39cH3rsi think i will use some unruned skills ... just because i wanna try them not wasting any runes on them ;) ... so basically i go with that option on some skills ;)
16:02.54ChaotiKno you won't
16:02.55Fischera skill that has not been altered.. cannot count as a variation of something
16:02.58Fischerthats semantically impossible
16:02.59ChaotiKthe lowbie runes will be plentiful
16:03.02traviismonsterCan you break down a rune? o.O
16:03.07Simpyyou guys act as if runes is just +dmg or something
16:03.12ChaotiKstarter runes will be like chipped gems. Everywhere
16:03.12Fischersome are
16:03.16Fischerdont be retarded
16:03.18FuryformFischer: the skill has been altered, it went from null to "Skill(0)"
16:03.18Simpyrunes remakes it into a different skill
16:03.24FischerFuryform: uhm no
16:03.28Fischerit went from nothing to nothing
16:03.29Furyformumm yes
16:03.31cH3rssimpy: thats not right
16:03.31Fischer= no variation
16:03.41Furyformyou know what null is, don't you?
16:03.47WyngaleThat's soo! funny. jeez.
16:03.57Washisomeone here is null i'm sure
16:03.58cH3rssimpy: it was stated that there is at least one rune that doesent alter the effect but only improves
16:04.02Fischeryes
16:04.06ChaotiKlogically when you are planning your end game build, you are choosing from the runestoned versions. unless you are building the weakest character possible
16:04.08Fischerbut we are disagreeing
16:04.23Simpywell meh either wya
16:04.26Simpy*way
16:04.31Fischeron the account that, i dont think an unchanged skill constitues as a variation and therefore an option.. a viable option
16:04.42Fischersince the runestone system is specifically focused on using them
16:04.42Furyformnull is not a skill, it is a blank space
16:04.46ChaotiKtechnically there are more variations using the base skill, but as far as end game builds you can't count it
16:04.48SyncnessChaotiK, why the need to plan everything in detail now when it can just be respecced later?
16:04.49Fischeralways and never using the original
16:04.50Fischeri know
16:04.56Washibtw.. what is the topic
16:04.58Syncnessplus, nothing is set in stone, no stat pts, skill pts
16:05.05SyncnessWhat is there to even plan?
16:05.05Fischertechnically there are 6... but as far as the game go.. there are 5
16:05.07Simpywe were not talking about endgame builds though
16:05.09Fischeryes
16:05.11Fischerits psycically there
16:05.14Syncnesswait a second
16:05.15ChaotiKsyncness the end game runes are not going to be plentiful
16:05.17Syncnesswhat the fuck is there to plan?
16:05.17Fischerbut it wont be used.. thus not counted
16:05.18Fischer= 5
16:05.24ChaotiKEnd game runestones you won't want to swap out
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16:05.33Syncnessend game
16:05.34Syncnessdude
16:05.34WyngaleFor example, unatunned skill have 1, when you put crimson rune it becomes 2 and etc, etc. People just want to argoe, that's it.
16:05.36ChaotiKunless you own a mc. donalds in game and are rich
16:05.37cH3rsnot used unequal not to be counted ^^ ...
16:05.38Simpyand Fischer you do not know if you are gonna know what the rune will do
16:05.38Syncnesswe're not even fucking level 1 yet
16:05.39Wyngaleargue*
16:05.44Simpymaybe you will need to experiment
16:05.52FischerSimpy: what are u talkign about
16:05.54Fischerits al lthere
16:05.54Syncnesshow about we get to like level 20, play around with shitty normal runestones
16:05.55Fischerdatamined
16:05.56Fischeralrdy
16:05.58Syncnessthen figure it out from there?
16:06.00Fischerdont be a retard
16:06.04Simpysigh
16:06.08ChaotiKexpirement with the low runes
16:06.12Simpythey have not decided it yet
16:06.13Fischeri have read all rune effects and what they do already
16:06.14ChaotiKfinalize with the high rune
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16:06.30Fischerthe effects are somewhat finaliazed
16:06.31Syncnessyou guys have absolutely no clue how weak/strong runestones actually are, and you're planning for "end game" builds already?
16:06.33Syncness????????????
16:06.38Simpyno fischer
16:06.42Fischeryes
16:06.46ChaotiKnobody is actually PLANNING
16:06.46SyncnessSimpy, do remember, he's a troll
16:06.48Simpywell yes the effects but not the system
16:06.48Fischerjay wilson said this in an interview
16:06.51SyncnessChaotiK, oh
16:06.53Fischerrunes are finished somewhat
16:07.03ChaotiKBlizz already stated that the highest level runestones will take awhile to get
16:07.05Fischerwe are taking about the effects
16:07.08Fischeru dumb idiot
16:07.09Fischer..
16:07.09Simpyyes, he also said they are experimenting with the "grey unattuned rune"
16:07.10Fischermy god
16:07.10WyngaleSyncness, doesn't matter what rune is level, base effect of rune doesn't change. It's just become stronger.
16:07.16FischerYES BUT NOT THE EFFECTS
16:07.17Fischeritself
16:07.22SyncnessWyngale, my point exactly
16:07.22Fischerthe mechanic system yes
16:07.24SimpyFischer, read what I was saying
16:07.27Fischerbut we are not talking about that
16:07.30Fischerare we ?
16:07.31Fischersmart guy
16:07.43WyngaleSyncness: We know rune effects, that's why we can plan our builds.
16:07.46Fischerye
16:07.50Fischergo datamine it
16:07.52Fischerwowbox = go
16:07.56SimpyFischer: BMing is a sign of weakness, you know that rite ?
16:07.56Fischerits all there and wont change much
16:08.06Fischersaying bullshit is a sign of retardism
16:08.08Fischeryou know that rite?
16:08.11Fischer= you
16:08.30Simpyno, I'm not retarded at all
16:08.35Simpyyou however are not listening
16:08.38Fischeri beg to differ
16:08.39Fischeri am
16:08.51HP-X|Arthasoh
16:08.53Fischerbut dont make bullshit arguments
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16:09.06Simpyso do you know for a fact that we will be able to see what the rune will do before you insert it into the skill ?
16:09.09HP-X|Arthasanyone remember the awesome guy from wc3 boards?
16:09.09HP-X|Arthasghetto something
16:09.10ChaotiKDon't use wowbox
16:09.13Fischeryes
16:09.23ChaotiKuse my site lol - you can see everything broken down and categorized
16:09.25Fischerwe will know from the internet
16:09.28Fischeru putz
16:09.35Fischerwhat do u think datamining is ?
16:09.37Fischerwowbox etc
16:09.38WyngaleChaotiK, link ?
16:09.45ChaotiKdiablo3characterbuilds.com
16:09.55FischerSimpy:  go read it now
16:09.58WyngaleSankyu~
16:10.00Fischerall skills all rune effects go read now
16:10.02Fischerits there
16:10.10ChaotiKyou know. we don't really if the skills show the possible effects
16:10.15ChaotiKim sure there is a "confirmation" box
16:10.24WyngaleFischer, i already have read all of them, why do you forcing Simpy go and read it there ?
16:10.25Wyngale:p
16:10.32Fischercos
16:10.34Fischerhes retarded..
16:10.38Fischerobviously :)
16:10.40Fischerrefusing to believe me
16:10.48WyngaleI already orginised and even translated all monk skills to my native..  it's nice to have.
16:10.53Simpywell depends if there will be a cost in removing runes or not
16:11.00WyngaleAnd rune effects as well.
16:11.10Fischermost likely there will
16:11.12Fischerin some form
16:11.21Fischergold, cooldown, or whatever
16:11.25FuryformFischer: nobody here has any reason to believe anything you say; you spout too much shit to settle on anything believable ;)
16:11.36SimpyI won't be alt+tabbing just to check some site if I can just remove the rune once I tried it out
16:11.38Fischerno, but i have to counterargument the shit u say
16:11.42Fischertakes a while u know :D
16:11.47Simpyespecially if runes are common
16:11.47Fischerbecause you are wrong
16:12.06WyngaleAnd you're always right, are you not ?
16:12.08ChaotiKlow runes are common
16:12.11Fischerno
16:12.12Fischerim not
16:12.14ChaotiKbut you won't be swapping high runes
16:12.17WyngaleBut is seems so.
16:12.20Fischernah
16:12.21ChaotiKyou WON"T be wasing a rune that took you a week to farm
16:12.23SimpyFischer:  stating something ûber fast does not make it right
16:12.23Fischernever said that
16:12.33Fischerbut stating it slow like u ?
16:12.35Fischerdoes?
16:12.36Fischer:D
16:12.37WyngaleFischer, you don't have to say that, you are acting that way.
16:12.40SimpyChaotiK: level 1 runes won't be that hard to get
16:12.51ChaotiKyea you can expirement with those
16:12.58Simpyyea, that's what I mean
16:13.01Fischerlvl 1-2 runes will drop alot
16:13.19ChaotiKup to lvl 14 or something right
16:13.22Fischer7
16:13.26Fischer1-7
16:13.30ChaotiKwell then
16:13.37Simpyso when I come to act 2 with my unruned skill I'll just put the first rune I get into it, and if the effect is "worse" than the original effect I'll be removing it
16:13.45Fischerit wont be worse..
16:13.47Fischerthats my point
16:13.49Fischermy god..
16:13.50ChaotiKthey said somewhere they up to like lvl 3 or 4 would drop. and you have to comebine them from there
16:13.52Simpyworse as in undesired
16:13.56Simpyread the " "
16:13.59Fischerit can be undesired
16:14.00Fischerits not possibl
16:14.02Fischere
16:14.06Simpywhaa
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16:14.22ChaotiK"damn this rune made my skill do moar damage" i better take this out
16:14.22Fischerminimum 1 rune doesnt change the standard effect only stats on the skill
16:14.25Fischeryea
16:14.26Fischerlol
16:14.30Fischersimply ur fucking retarded
16:14.32Fischerin your brain
16:14.34Fischerim sorry u are
16:14.34Simpyno ChaotiK
16:14.35ChaotiKwel
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16:14.42ChaotiKsome runes change it completely
16:14.45Simpyyou can get a offensive skill to be defensive
16:14.50Gaurav^_^major bugggggggggggggg
16:14.54Gaurav^_^http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEF3AY21OSs
16:14.56Fischersimpy stfu
16:14.56Gaurav^_^two templars
16:14.58Simpyyou can get something with long range to be very short etc.
16:15.00Fischerand go read about runes
16:15.02ChaotiKi know one rune makes the gargauntian pet only temporary
16:15.05Fischeru know nothing
16:15.05FuryformGaurav^_^: not a bug
16:15.07cH3rschaotik: ur mistaken there ... that were gems which u need to combine .. runes will drop till max lvl
16:15.10SimpyFischer:  grow up and L2 behave
16:15.11WyngaleErm..
16:15.16Gaurav^_^why?
16:15.25FuryformGaurav^_^: second temp is only temporary and working as intended...blues on forums say so
16:15.34Gaurav^_^okkk
16:15.39ChaotiKch3rs link or it didn't happen =p
16:15.39Gaurav^_^thnx for info
16:15.46Furyformnp
16:15.49FischerMINIMUM 1 ... MINIMUM 1 RUNEEFFECT OF 5... will not... WILL NOT change the standard EFFECT the skill has.... but only the stats.. more dmg etc.... is this clear to you?
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16:16.01asgardhi
16:16.12FuryformFischer: no
16:16.15Fischeryes
16:16.16Furyformthat was actually confusing
16:16.21Fischerwell
16:16.21cH3rshttp://www.wizardsorb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/inferno_runes.jpg
16:16.23SimpyFischer: that's soo wrong
16:16.23WyngaleFischer, i think you wrong with that.
16:16.23Fischerim sorry then
16:16.28FischerSimpy: u are
16:16.30Fischera fucking
16:16.32Fischerretarded
16:16.33Fischerki
16:16.34Fischerd
16:16.35Fischer:D
16:16.38Fischerim done with u
16:16.43Simpyok, bye
16:16.50Simpygo troll somewhere else
16:16.53asgardboys, you ae waiting for beta key
16:16.55ChaotiKinferno is going to be fun
16:16.57Fischerdidnt say i was leaving
16:17.00Fischerjust done talking to retards like u
16:17.01asgardor waiting for crack
16:17.05Fischernow stfu
16:17.08Washiguys why dont we just argue by "no" and "yes" now on and see who gets the last word :)
16:17.14Simpyfyi I was not even talking to you, I was talking to ChaotiK
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16:17.28Simpyyou just went berserk when I was talking to some1 else
16:17.35WyngaleBut fischer have to put his 50 coins everywhere..
16:17.39ChaotiKty ch3rs
16:17.44Fischeralong as u are wrong Wyngale
16:17.44Fischeryes
16:17.47cH3rsyour welcome
16:17.51Fischerdont say stuff thats not true
16:17.57Fischerand i wont correct u
16:18.01Fischersimple.
16:18.07asgardok ok
16:18.08asgardanyone knows
16:18.12asgardabout beta keys
16:18.14Furyformlol Washi, at least then we could read every word on each line
16:18.17asgardor crack
16:18.45Furyformasgard: cracks are readily available if you know where to look
16:18.53cH3rsyeah ... beta keys dont exist, they are called invites... and they are not out for youandme up until now
16:19.14asgardyes yes
16:19.18asgardi waiting for this invite
16:19.23asgardbut too many days
16:19.24asgardor it
16:19.27asgardi want play now
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16:19.52cH3rsi am guessing tomorrow could start public closed beta
16:20.05asgardrealy??
16:20.07asgardtomorrow ?
16:20.09cH3rsbut i can be mistaken since there is no official post
16:20.22cH3rsthis week is most likly though
16:20.42SimpyForce stated that he had some sources that indicated it being this week
16:20.45asgardi dont care if i have to use a crack
16:20.46Simpymaybe tomorrow
16:20.47asgardi just want play
16:20.49Furyformthere are a few reliable sources that feel confident it will be in the next day or two
16:20.49asgard:(
16:21.04ChaotiKkeys exist.
16:21.16asgardi have 4 original games
16:21.18ChaotiKthey unlock chests
16:21.21asgardin my account
16:21.26Fischertrolol
16:21.30asgardcan i receive the invite?
16:21.35ChaotiKi have every game
16:21.37Fischeryes
16:21.38cH3rsuh damn i forgot about RL-keys again :P
16:21.38ChaotiKeat it
16:22.18asgarddiablo 2 + lord, Starcraft 2 , wow
16:22.26asgardi need a invite
16:22.29ChaotiKpeople with diablo 2/lod accounts should get first priority
16:22.29Furyformof the rings?
16:22.37cH3rseveryone here does need an invite ...
16:22.41cH3rswe all wait for that
16:22.46asgardyes yes
16:22.49FuryformFischer doesn't need an invite
16:22.55Furyformhe needs a boot
16:22.56Furyform:)
16:23.04Simpyhaha
16:23.10Simpylet's not return the hate :P
16:23.20asgardyes
16:23.21Furyformhe knows i love him
16:23.23asgardlove is in the air
16:23.29asgardlike the music
16:23.39Fischerits easy to hate the people you are jealous of
16:23.40Fischer;)
16:23.55Simpyyou do not have to be jealous of me Fischer
16:24.00Fischeri dont hate you
16:24.03Fischerso im not jealous
16:24.05asgardok ok ok
16:24.06Fischer;(
16:24.12asgardnow lets talk about diablo 3
16:24.16Fischertalk.
16:24.21Furyformuh oh
16:24.23asgardanyone know about the skills
16:24.27ChaotiK5 skills
16:24.27asgardhave levels
16:24.29asgardnoo
16:24.30Simpylol
16:24.34Furyformeach skill has 6 variations
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16:24.38Fischer:D
16:24.39asgardhow get more stronger ?
16:24.40Fischernice bait
16:24.42SimpyChaotiK:  lmao
16:24.42Fischerbut no Furyform
16:24.48LuminWasnt it said that you need either WoW or SC2 to get an invite ?
16:24.48Fischer;
16:24.49Fischer;D
16:24.50ChaotiKeach BASE skill has FIVE variations
16:24.56Fischer'true
16:25.00Simpylet's have a link for this
16:25.01asgardok thxn chaotik
16:25.12FuryformLumin: i couldn't find the post that said it, so it must've been a random post and not a blue?
16:25.18Simpygive me this link that proves that all skills have the same base but with an added effect
16:25.21ChaotiKasgard. some skills scale and level with you. some are fixed amounts like 120% weapon damage
16:25.23LuminSec
16:25.37FuryformSimpy: that was besides the point
16:25.42Simpybecause I've heard that effect can change
16:25.49asgardohh now i understard
16:25.52FuryformSimpy: some do
16:25.57cH3rsyou can pick 6 active skills out of ~20 ... each base skill can be altered with one of five runes ... + 3 passive skills which cant be altered
16:26.08ChaotiKwow. it took that destructus guy like 30 minutes to understand. took asgard 2 seconds
16:26.11ChaotiK./clap
16:26.14FischerXD
16:26.18ChaotiK.   \o/
16:26.32Simpywell I do agree that there's only 5 effects to choose from in the endgame
16:26.33ChaotiK_o/
16:26.34Furyform:D
16:26.35LuminOh, meh
16:26.36Luminhttp://diablo.incgamers.com/blog/comments/diablo-3-beta-lottery-only-sc2-and-wow-players
16:26.42ChaotiKend game
16:27.11Simpywhere can I find viable info about rune skill effects
16:27.12asgardhow much this cost
16:27.17asgard80 dollars?
16:27.19asgard100 ?
16:27.25ChaotiKsimpy
16:27.28ChaotiKmy site -
16:27.44asgardi want buy in pre order
16:27.46Furyformactually
16:27.56ChaotiKyou can find it on diablofans too but its scattered and not organized.
16:27.59SimpyI do not see a link :P
16:28.07ChaotiKdiablo3characterbuilds.com
16:28.17ChaotiKim getting like 9000 hits on that site a day now
16:28.34ChaotiKand my ads are only making like $0.68 a day rofl
16:28.44nicoli_sChaotiK:very cool, yer using my data :)
16:28.52nicoli_si was the one who populated all that stuff on the diablowiki
16:29.00ChaotiKi give credit to wiki and other places
16:29.05nicoli_soh i know
16:29.07ChaotiKthe wiki had a lot of wrong data on it
16:29.09nicoli_sim just saying, very cool
16:29.16nicoli_syeah theres alot of old data
16:29.29nicoli_sthey are trying to balance out all the new data i imported with stuff thats old
16:29.30ChaotiKi googled screen shots of skills to fill in the blanks
16:30.05ChaotiKi'll update it once it comes out so that every skill shows the base damage at lvl 60
16:30.09Simpywell if you look at the energy twister + alabaster you see that the effect is changed
16:30.12Fischerdiablo beta lottery.. why they call it that
16:30.21ChaotiKcause its a 1 in a million chance
16:30.30asgardhohoho
16:30.33asgard1 in a million ?
16:30.37Fischerwhy not call it opt-in?
16:30.44Fischergerman support tech dot know shit
16:30.52Fischeru dont need sc2 or wow only to opt-in :)
16:30.57Fischerread the FAQ
16:31.09Fischergerman blizz nubs just got wrong info ;D
16:31.23SimpyObsidian - Frozen Mist
16:31.25SimpyThe Frost Nova no longer freezes enemies, but instead leaves behind a mist of frost for { 9} seconds that deals { 11} Cold damage per second to enemies standing in it.
16:31.31Simpythis is a clear change of effect
16:31.37Fischersimpy go away
16:31.43Simpyadmit it
16:31.50Fischeradmit what u douchebag?
16:31.56FuryformSimpy: if you want a clearer change of effect, go look at Demon Hunter Preparation
16:32.02Furyformbut honestly, you're preachin to the choir
16:32.10Simpyyea, think so too
16:32.10Furyformwe all know and accept that the whole skill is capable of changing
16:32.23Simpyand this is subject of change
16:32.24WyngaleYes it does
16:32.26Fischerno
16:32.29Fischerit isnt
16:32.38nicoli_sanyone seen this yet and know where it comes from: http://www.imagebanana.com/view/5hmsq5i8/Monk_Male_tex.jpg
16:32.44WyngaleYeah, Fischer is right, skills doesn't changes, it just becomes different, yes! ;p
16:32.48Simpyanyway runes is not just +dmg
16:32.57Fischerwho said they were?
16:33.01Fischernobody
16:33.02Simpyyou did
16:33.02Fischerur a retard.
16:33.03WyngaleYs nicoli_s i did :)
16:33.04Fischerno
16:33.05SyncnessTROLOLOLOL
16:33.06Fischeri fucking didnt
16:33.08Fischeru stupid retard :D
16:33.14Fischercos u never read what i wrote
16:33.19Fischeras i imagined
16:33.20SyncnessFischer, everyone seems to start an argument with you
16:33.25WyngaleCuz there is nothing good you're wrote
16:33.29Fischerbecause everybody seems to be a tard :D
16:33.30ChaotiKnicoli_s thats from the guys making the EMU
16:33.31SimpyMINIMUM 1 ... MINIMUM 1 RUNEEFFECT OF 5... will not... WILL NOT change the standard EFFECT the skill has.... but only the stats.. more dmg etc.... is this clear to you?
16:33.33WyngaleFury and Simpy wrote a thing, you wrote a shit
16:33.39Fischeryes
16:33.42Simpyrecognise it Fischer ?
16:33.43Fischermeaning
16:33.44Fischeryes
16:33.47Fischerdo u know what that means?
16:33.49Fischerit means
16:33.51Spl4sh3rDisintigrate is lol
16:33.51Fischerthat out of 5 runes
16:33.57Fischera minimum of 1 will not change the effect
16:34.02Fischer4 others might.. but minimum 1 wont
16:34.03Fischeru stupid idiot
16:34.06Fischerand im correct
16:34.14Syncness..............................
16:34.17WyngaleI loled !xD
16:34.21Fischerowned.
16:34.29Syncnessyou will all see how redundant this argument is once release comes out
16:34.31WyngaleSelfown you meant ? Yes you did.
16:34.36Fischerselfown?
16:34.37Fischerhow
16:34.40Fischerim correct he is wrong
16:34.41Fischeru mad?
16:34.41Fischer:(
16:34.44SyncnessDude
16:34.47Simpywell I missread what you wrote there clearly
16:34.50Syncnessyou've been talking to yourself
16:34.51Wyngale*Laughts*
16:34.53FuryformFischer: he's not wrong
16:34.53Fischeryes u did
16:34.54Fischersimpy
16:34.56Furyformthat's the problem
16:34.56Fischernow stfu
16:35.19Simpybut then why did you write that when I said that skills can change into things you do not desire :P
16:35.20Fischerif u read what i said correctly the first time... u wouldnt complain that im wrong
16:35.21mii|essayinghttp://www.adverblog.com/2011/05/22/the-male-stripper-blackmail/
16:35.21nicoli_sWyngale:do you know where you saw it linked from?
16:35.22SyncnessFischer, your understanding of stfu is...?
16:35.22mii|essayingso good
16:35.34Fischerbecause
16:35.40Fischerall runeeffects will be better than the base
16:35.42FuryformSimpy: he does everything for the sake of being an argumentative annoying ass
16:35.44Fischerwe been throug hthis..
16:35.44Fischeromg
16:35.53SyncnessFuryform: QUOTED FOR FUCKING TRUTH
16:35.54SyncnessHOLY SHIT
16:35.55Simpywe really should have some moderation in this channel
16:35.55WyngaleThis ^ Fury
16:35.58SyncnessQFFT
16:36.02Fischerall 5 runeeffects will always be better than the base skill u start out with
16:36.03Fischerno matter what
16:36.06Fischerthats the point
16:36.10SyncnessSimpy, believe me, Fischer would be the first to get banned
16:36.13SyncnessNot kick banned
16:36.14Syncnessbanned.
16:36.18Fischeryes
16:36.18Smithhello im back ladies
16:36.19SyncnessHe can read, but not type
16:36.20Fischeri would be proud
16:36.22Fischeractually
16:36.24HP|ArthasFischer that all depends on the situation
16:36.25WyngaleGo on Fischer, i'll bring some pop-corn.
16:36.26HP|Arthasreall
16:36.27HP|Arthasy
16:36.28WyngaleIt's nice to observe
16:36.35Fischerarthas no it doesnt really
16:36.40Simpysee
16:36.41Fischergive me an example where it depends
16:36.44WyngaleXD!
16:36.48Fischerto prove your point
16:36.50Simpyhe just say's exact opposite
16:36.53Fischergo on
16:36.57HP|Arthasrune -> AoE + lower dmg
16:37.14HP|Arthaswhere you need the higher dmg
16:37.15Fischerby lookin gat the rune effects the total dps will go up
16:37.18HP|Arthaseach skill will have its own use
16:37.23HP|Arthasthe same is true for runes / no runes
16:37.27SimpyFischer if I want a freeze effect from frost nova and put an alabaster rune in it... don't you say I get the undesired effect then ?
16:37.35SimpyI mean obsidian
16:37.35FuryformFischer: depending on how the Demon Hunter Companion skill works with the rune changes (we won't know till we have a chance to see the values applied by the game) it's possible the default Raven would be chosen in circumstances
16:37.37ChaotiKbottom line. the rest of the 4 runes for frost nova is the same effect but better. so there is no reason to not rune it.
16:37.38Fischerbut u can choose 1 rune that doestn do aoe
16:37.41WyngaleIt changes role of the rune from one target to targets in rage, and that's a huge change.
16:37.45Fischerjust more dmg
16:37.53SimpyFischer: but I might not know this
16:38.08Simpyas I stated before I do might not want to alt + tab all the time
16:38.17Simpyif the runes can be taken out
16:38.40HP|Arthaswait, we can remove runes?
16:38.42HP|Arthasjust like that
16:38.45SimpyIf level 1 runes is so plentyful I'll be experimenting and then getting effects I do not want
16:38.49Simpywe do not know
16:38.49Furyformand while i'm at it, Companion also disowns your theory that "at least 1 rune is just the base but augmented" cause none of them are a raven anymore :D (and the bat doesn't say whether it does damage or not)
16:38.50HP|Arthasno cost / penalty?
16:38.52Simpymaybe, maybe not
16:38.57HP|Arthasi hope not
16:39.04Simpydepends if they go with the Bind of skill
16:39.11WyngaleArthas, it was said in interview, but it was month ago and they were like "it might suck".
16:39.12Fischer[18:37] <ChaotiK> bottom line. the rest of the 4 runes for frost nova is the same effect but better. so there is no reason to not rune it.
16:39.13Simpywell if it is bind on skill then I do not see a problem
16:39.17WyngaleSo we can expect changes
16:39.28Fischerend of story
16:39.50SimpyFischer: we want to go deeper than just that statement
16:39.58Simpynot just "runes are better"
16:40.00FischerChaotiK:  understands ! at least
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16:40.13SmithRunes are going to fill the role skill points had before... meaning you need to make some skill choces at some point
16:40.25Smithchoices*
16:40.25ChaotiKfischer thats not what hes saying
16:40.33Simpyyea, either you stick with no rune or put in 1 /5
16:40.35ChaotiKhes saying he doesn't want to have to read guides to find out what they do
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16:40.51Smithhow many runes can a player have?
16:40.53ChaotiKhopefully the skills show a preview of the effect before you 'finalize it"
16:40.55Smithequipped?
16:40.59Furyform1 per skill
16:41.00Simpy1 per skill
16:41.04ChaotiK6. one per skill
16:41.10ChaotiKwe
16:41.12ChaotiKwell
16:41.17Smithone per "active" skill right?
16:41.18Furyformtraits are not "skills"
16:41.20ChaotiKunless skills you don't have on your bar can keep runes
16:41.24Furyformwell
16:41.25Smithi mean u cant rune any skill in your book?
16:41.27Furyformi guess they're passives
16:41.28Simpyye, active skills I guess
16:41.34Smiththat makes sense
16:41.37Furyformsomethin makes me think of traits when i think passives
16:41.39ChaotiKsmith we don' tknow that answer yet
16:41.39Smithif its only 6 runes
16:41.44SimpyAfaik there's several ways blizzard can do this
16:41.46WyngaleNo more traits, forget that word, less confusion.
16:41.57ChaotiKi doubt if you take a skill off your hotbar the rune falls out. but who knows
16:42.00Simpyeither you have  a rune that can be used in any skill
16:42.11Simpyor you can have the runes become bound to one skill
16:42.33Furyformlast i heard they were going the bound route
16:42.37Furyformbut they haven't posted on it in a while
16:42.43Furyformso we don't know what they're doing :(
16:42.45SimpyJay Wilson said in an interview that they are experimenting with some of these things
16:42.58asgardWhat you guys know about the Loot system, each player drop a unic loot ?
16:43.02WyngaleThey do, he's not stated that it's once and for all.
16:43.14SimpyI'm thinking they will keep the bound but not the grey rune
16:43.18ChaotiKmy loot is separate from  your loot.
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16:43.28ChaotiKyou won't see my drops unless i show you
16:43.32SimpyMF only affects my loot
16:43.37Simpyloot can be salvaged
16:43.39asgardthats good
16:43.41asgardvery good
16:43.55Furyformasgard: you are in group with 3 people and kill boss, boss drops 2 loot per person, you see 2 pieces of loot, each other player sees 2 pieces (total 8 loot)
16:43.56Simpyloot can be sold by the cauldron of jordan you have in your inventory
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16:44.02ChaotiKSimpy does that only apply to your killing blow ?
16:44.14Furyformno ChaotiK
16:44.17Simpythink Brobafett said it applied to all
16:44.20goa`instance variables
16:44.36Simpyeverything that drops should be affected by your MF
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16:44.41Simpyincluding urns I guess
16:44.47ChaotiKso my son is going to be nothing but support + magic find and follow me around
16:44.48Trollscher-.-
16:45.01Trollscherfucking firefox
16:45.02Simpy:)
16:45.04Trollscherfail
16:45.15Simpywhy is that Trollscher ?
16:45.17ChaotiKfirefox is the shit. what you talkin bout willis
16:45.20HP|ArthasChaotiK I must hunt you down
16:45.23ChaotiKwhy
16:45.24Trollschermight be plugins
16:45.30HP|Arthasand convince your soon to help me bring the evil mana user down!
16:45.38SimpyI use chatzilla for this, works quite well
16:45.44FuryformSimpy: you recognize who he is?
16:45.46ChaotiKman. he is funny
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16:45.58HP|ArthasOr werent you playind wd :D
16:46.01ChaotiKi had the d3 beta hack where you could see characters. and i told him in in
16:46.03ChaotiKand he freaked out
16:46.04Trollscherbut nice ChaotiK
16:46.07Trollscherwe are agreing on runes
16:46.15HP|ArthasIt was your kid who mocked mana wasnt it?
16:46.20ChaotiKyea
16:46.27HP|Arthas:D
16:46.31HP|Arthasyour kid rocks lol
16:46.33ChaotiKsince his wizard had arcane power then he was special. cause mana is old school
16:46.41ChaotiKeven HE understoold that and hes 9
16:46.51Furyformor he was calling you old
16:46.55Furyform:D
16:46.57ChaotiKim only 28
16:47.01Trollschersimpy lol
16:47.05Furyform9 vs 28
16:47.06Furyformyou old son
16:47.11Furyform:D
16:47.11HP|Arthasdamn, young father :D
16:47.15Trollschery
16:47.28ChaotiKthe other kids at his school.. their parents look like they could be grand parents
16:47.33Furyformonoes he can namechange now
16:47.34HP|Arthasim the same, although a bit older. way better then a 60 something :p
16:47.46Trollscheru mad?
16:47.49TrollscherFuryform:
16:47.53Trollscher;)
16:47.58Furyformi like pancakes
16:47.59ChaotiKbut listen
16:48.01Trollscherok
16:48.02Furyform:]
16:48.04ChaotiKi told my son i had beta
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16:48.10ChaotiKand i was letting him make a char
16:48.13ChaotiKand it froze
16:48.13Trollscheri told my ex i had aids
16:48.25ChaotiKand i grabbed my belt and yelled at him. he got so scared. thought he broke th beta
16:48.28Trollscherand she froze
16:48.35Simpylol, troll irl aswell I see
16:48.37Trollschergrabbed my throat and yelled at me
16:48.44Trollscherso i got scared
16:48.48Trollscherthought i broken her
16:48.49Trollscher;D
16:48.53HP|Arthas"grabbed my belt" lol
16:48.59Trollschertrololololol
16:49.05ChaotiKit was funny
16:49.30ChaotiKhe came home oneday telling me he got a girl pregnant. i was like.. who the fuck told you to say that.
16:49.34ChaotiKlittle shit
16:49.42Furyformlol
16:49.47HP|Arthashahaha
16:49.52Furyformwho did tell him to say it XD
16:50.00Mezad
16:50.17HP|ArthasChaotiK's face when he realizes his son didnt lie :O
16:50.24Furyformthis channel lacks Fischer/Trollscher
16:50.26Furyformparty?
16:50.40HP|Arthasbut really, who told him to say that
16:51.12WyngaleChaotiK: rofl :p
16:51.13Mezad
16:51.26Astrapoysi wonder has anyone try the Myth? a d2 mod
16:51.37ChaotiKlol
16:51.49Astrapoystried*
16:52.05SimpyNow we can discuss diablo stuff and maybe I can read stuff some1 said 20 sec ago
16:52.17WyngaleFuryform: Let us troll each other ?! Erm, but i don't know how to start that..
16:52.20HP|Arthasnah, im still waiting for ChaotiK to continue :D
16:52.30FuryformWyngale: ur a fag
16:52.35Meza.
16:52.36HP|Arthaslets skip trolling and start a flamewar instead
16:52.38HP|Arthasmacs rules!
16:52.43WyngaleFuryform: :(
16:52.46Simpysure w/e
16:52.52Simpyohwait
16:52.57SimpyMacs are expensive !
16:53.03WyngaleFuryform: Tat was chiiip!
16:53.06HP|Arthasok
16:53.06FuryformSimpy fails mac vs windows 101
16:53.07HP|Arthasfuck it
16:53.10Furyformmac is a PoS
16:53.10HP|Arthasi cant defend a mac
16:53.11HP|Arthas:|
16:53.18SimpyI can
16:53.24HP|Arthasoh
16:53.26Astrapoysi guess bad timing lol
16:53.27HP|Arthasgood :D
16:53.27WyngaleOh, we have topic now!
16:53.29SimpyMy PC is bugging me so much right now
16:53.36WyngalePC>Mac
16:53.38HP|ArthasAstrapoys havent even heard of it
16:53.39WyngaleWho's next ?
16:53.40Wyngale:p
16:53.46SimpyPC = frustrating when it's not working
16:53.55WyngaleErm.. cheap again >>>
16:53.59HP|ArthasPC = always works
16:54.07Simpyrite, I'll build a new PC then :P
16:54.16SmithPC = if something doesnt work its the user's fault
16:54.18Furyformpc = gaming; mac = oooo pretty flowers
16:54.22HP|Arthasmac osx = non logical interface!
16:54.25WyngaleSmith: that's right.
16:54.31WyngaleFuryform: LOL!
16:54.33Washimac = OS console
16:54.46HP|Arthasok this aint working
16:54.49HP|Arthaswii rules!
16:54.59SimpyNintendo famicom !
16:55.04WyngaleNah, that's not sounds like a trolling.. it still seems like logical references, i'm out :(
16:55.12Furyformpc = frustrating when it doesn't work; mac = frustrating when it does work
16:55.14HP|Arthasalthough this crowd doesnt strike me as a console one
16:55.20Simpyrofl Furyform
16:55.26Astrapoysyou are a nice person HP-X|Arthas ;)
16:55.30WyngaleFuryform lol
16:55.34HP|ArthasI know!
16:55.50HP|Arthasive only played a little glden sun or whatever the mod was called
16:55.52HP|Arthasand DA beta
16:56.04Astrapoyseastern
16:56.05WyngaleIdk.. lets try once more. Ps3>x360 ?
16:56.11HP|Arthasah, yeah. eastern
16:56.17Astrapoys:P
16:56.21Furyformpc > console
16:56.26HP|ArthasWyngale Id never buy a 360. EVER
16:56.29WyngalePS3 > Console!
16:56.35HP|ArthasBut the xbox have way better online suport than ps3
16:56.35Furyformps3 = console
16:56.37Furyformlol
16:56.38WyngaleNO!
16:56.38AstrapoysPC rules
16:56.43Simpyif the beta will be launched tomorrow. Will it be like 00:00 california time ?
16:56.50HP|Arthasthe fact remains, this generation of consoles suck
16:56.52Furyformno Simpy
16:56.58HP|Arthasrelease buggy games, patch em up
16:57.02asgardsomeone here have played the beta already ?
16:57.09HP|Arthasstill not working on the former revisions of the console, like fat
16:57.11WyngaleDarn.. that's not WORK guys, come on :PP
16:57.12Furyformthey'll do it sometime when there is actually a fair amount of staff available
16:57.13HP|Arthas:(
16:57.30Simpyand where is that staff located? Californa?
16:57.34HP|Arthasim with Astrapoys on this one
16:57.39HP|ArthasPC, and old consoles
16:57.56FuryformHP|Arthas: you mean to tell me consoles actually got to the point where they release games with bugs and just patch them, instead of perfecting them before releasing like they used to?
16:57.57Simpyany US ppl here ?
16:58.04WyngaleBut i can play in FF13 on console and can't play it on my PC :(
16:58.08WyngaleArguments ?
16:58.10WyngaleXD
16:58.18HP|ArthasFuryform thats exactly what im telling you :p
16:58.23Furyformeww :(
16:58.24HP|ArthasWyngale ff13 sucked
16:58.30HP|ArthasI bought my ps3 release day
16:58.30WyngaleBut i like FF series! :(
16:58.33Simpyit was awesome ... until the endgame
16:58.35HP|Arthaswhen ff13 got released, my console died 3 times the same week
16:58.36[wKy]ZackaryelI wish I was US ><
16:58.40Furyformi like FF for the stories more than the gameplay heh
16:58.44AstrapoysPC has the better graphings, the mods creation
16:58.44HP|Arthasgot refurbished ones, updated to 3.15 and they died
16:58.58HP|Arthaswhen i finally got to play the game it was 3-4 hours of X, X, X, X
16:58.59WyngaleAstrapoys: But i like graphics in FF13 D:
16:59.00Astrapoysgraphics*
16:59.04HP|Arthasfollowed by a few paradigm shifts
16:59.17HP|Arthasgraphics are nice yes, but it doesnt help the game :p
16:59.20SimpySo where are the Diablo 3 guys situated ?
16:59.23WyngaleI like series, but i'm not fun in the same time.
16:59.33HP|ArthasI then played through 7 again :p
16:59.34[wKy]ZackaryelIrvine, CA
16:59.46FuryformHP|Arthas: i'll agree with the implied idea that magic in final fantasy games generally sucks and isn't worth actually using
16:59.49AstrapoysHP-X|Arthas mods helped so many games ;)
17:00.01HP|Arthaswell, the last good game was the square one
17:00.02HP|Arthasie ff9
17:00.15HP|Arthasand i generally hate dubbed games
17:00.17Simpyand the time is like 10 am there now ?
17:00.18WyngaleI like FF12, still payin' on EMU time to time.
17:00.19Wyngale:P
17:00.24HP|ArthasId rather have em in japanese speech and eng subs
17:00.36WyngaleI don't want to play it on console as it looks x10 times better on my PC
17:01.00WyngaleYeah HP-X|Arthas which they call Undub
17:01.06[wKy]Zackaryelme wants MK9 on PC
17:01.10Simpyso by this time tomorrow it might be released ;)
17:01.12HP|Arthasff12 had an undub
17:01.22HP|Arthasnever got to play it though, my ps2 broke down on me
17:01.24WyngaleFF12 Zodiac Job System
17:01.28WyngaleHave played that ?
17:01.32HP|Arthasnope
17:01.38HP|Arthasi stopped playing 12 when i realized dub
17:01.38HP|Arthas:p
17:01.40WyngaleThat's last one with actual CLASS systems
17:01.41Wyngale:p
17:01.43WyngaleI see
17:01.45Simpy|afkgonna play some Final Fantasy II !!
17:01.46HP|Arthascompare shenmue 2 dub vs undub
17:02.16HP|Arthasalso disliked battle system in ff12. although to be honest i didnt give it a real chance due to the fact i thought it didnt belong in a ff game
17:02.18AquaRavenXhey simple
17:02.24AquaRavenXff 2 complete?
17:02.26HP|Arthasjust like i hated on autostats (and still do) in d3 :D
17:02.35WyngaleFF12 becomes amazing after a while. :)
17:02.45WyngaleAt the start it's kinda meh.
17:03.06Furyformlike a curved cock in Wyngale's ass
17:03.10WyngaleD:
17:03.18Wyngale;_;
17:03.29Furyformproblem?
17:03.35WyngaleBut.. but.. D:
17:03.37HP|Arthasim just going to pretend wyngale is a hot chick
17:03.44HP|Arthasthat way the image i just got wont burn my eyes
17:03.47WyngaleRofl
17:03.50Furyformlol
17:04.00AquaRavenXdid they make ff12 for pc?
17:04.05HP|ArthasAquaRavenX no
17:04.08WyngaleUse EMU to play it
17:04.10HP|Arthasff8 was last one i think
17:04.12WyngaleIt looks AMAZING! :p
17:04.14HP|Arthasif you dont count 11 & 14
17:04.15AquaRavenXdidn't think so. no ps3 so thats a no go
17:04.30WyngaleLet me make a screenie..
17:04.36Furyformff7 and ff8 were ported to pc
17:04.39Furyformrest have to be emu
17:05.35Furyformonly problem is they fail to play certain sound files
17:05.57AquaRavenXff7 remake would be amazing, but no go
17:06.22HP|Arthaswell, I just dont see why ff7 remake hasnt happened yet
17:06.24Furyformi was pissed when i realized she was gone
17:06.39HP|Arthaswell sure, they would fuck it up with voice acting, and dubbed one at that
17:06.56HP|ArthasSure, they can have eng only, but at least give me the option to turn it off :(
17:06.59Furyformff7 remake hasn't happened cause they thought they could make more money by doing a buncha spinoffs that made the game look bad
17:07.12ChaotiKrectum? damn near killed um!
17:07.24Furyformkilled who, Wyngale?
17:07.25ChaotiKor wtf ever that saying is
17:07.37WyngaleWut ?
17:07.43HP|ArthasAeris? :p
17:07.52AquaRavenXthey also said it would cost too much money to make all the high detail of the towns in ff7.
17:08.09WyngaleJeez, i'm actually have to do stuff, why i'm still there.
17:08.18AquaRavenXbut there has to be a group of misfits that just want to do it for fun anyway
17:08.18Furyformfor the record, i didn't spoil anything for the nonexistant players that haven't played ff7
17:08.43WyngaleNah, i'll do screenie sometime later /escapes
17:09.00ChaotiKi remember the first time i played ff7.. i was like wow these graphics are nice.. then the blocky looking guys jumped off the train i was like what tha
17:09.13ChaotiKthe scenery was so nice
17:09.27HP|ArthasFuryform, what? The fact aeris dies is just common knowledge
17:09.38HP|Arthasjust like the fact that vader is lukes father and that titanic sinks in the end
17:09.38HP|Arthas:D
17:09.46ChaotiKand my 3 hour battle with that one weapon who kept killing everybody and my pheonix down kept bringing me back
17:09.59HP|ArthasChaotiK water one?
17:10.10ChaotiKi dunno that was like 9 years ago
17:10.18ChaotiKi <3 super marior RPG
17:10.23HP|Arthasah
17:10.26Furyformvader i'll give you, but had i not seen titanic i wouldn't known it sank and had i not played ff7 last month i wouldn't have known aeris died :P
17:10.44HP|ArthasFuryform in that case
17:10.48HP|ArthasWelcome to the internet!
17:10.49HP|Arthas:D
17:10.53Furyformlol
17:12.05HP|Arthasalso, for real on titanic? =p
17:12.05ChaotiKim kinda pissed that the legendaries and set items in d3 won't have static attributes
17:12.21HP|Arthaslegendaries?
17:12.21Maldiviaaeris' death, is probably the best know death in any game
17:12.22HP|Arthaswat
17:12.28HP|ArthasMaldivia yeah
17:12.29Furyformi saw the movie so i knew, but besides that i've hardly heard anybody talk about it
17:12.29ChaotiKunique = legendary
17:12.39HP|Arthasdid they rename the uniques?
17:12.42ChaotiKyea
17:12.45ChaotiKto legendary
17:13.04ChaotiKmaking a character builder that incorporates gear will be a fucking hassle now
17:13.04HP|Arthas...
17:13.10HP|Arthasgay
17:13.12HP|Arthas:(
17:13.21ChaotiKi seen griswolds edge with like 15 different stats so far
17:13.22HP|Arthasso now we have normal, magic, set and legendary?
17:13.34ChaotiKnorrmal, blue, rare, legendary, set
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17:13.41HP|Arthasright, rare
17:13.48FuryformChaotiK: were any of them any level besides level 2?
17:14.08ChaotiKi dunno but one had + 10% witch doctor damage. one didn't have any but it had +vitality
17:14.14ChaotiKits just random
17:14.16ChaotiKso random
17:14.26Furyformrandom level requirement too, is all i'm wondering
17:14.31HP|Arthasdoes the game have bind on pickup aswell?
17:14.37Furyformwhich would mean it might have static attributes we won't see till higher levels
17:14.38ChaotiKno clue
17:14.44ChaotiKfuryform i hope
17:14.46Furyformno HP|Arthas
17:14.50HP|Arthasthank god
17:14.51HP|Arthas:p
17:14.59Furyformthere will be a few quest rewards that bind
17:14.59ChaotiKone of the beta guys responded to my thread
17:15.01Furyformbut that's it
17:15.09Furyformwhat thread
17:15.19ChaotiKhe said that instead of looking for a specific legendary. you look for items that have specific stats.
17:15.40Furyformuhh
17:16.14Furyformso being legendary won't mean it has certain stats that are guaranteed to be this way anymore?
17:16.20ChaotiKright
17:16.24ChaotiKat least so far
17:16.40Furyformlol "so far" doesn't give me any new info
17:16.51ChaotiKheh
17:16.55Maldivialegendaies have "static stats"
17:16.56ChaotiKfrom the legendary items so far
17:16.59ChaotiKno they don
17:17.08Furyform"so far" we have a level cap of 13
17:17.11ChaotiKat least not the ones we have already seen
17:17.19HP|ArthasWinning concept - The more armor you put on the female characters, the less clothing
17:17.27ChaotiKagreed
17:17.30Furyformhow many legendaries have we found besides griswold's sword
17:17.32HP|Arthasas in lineage 2 :D
17:17.41ChaotiK2 or 3
17:17.44ChaotiKlol
17:17.54Furyformdo you has links? i couldn't find any
17:17.59Furyformthe legendaries thread was full of rares
17:17.59Maldiviawell, static in the sense that they have the a range on the values, just like D2, but have a set of static modifier, and can on top of that have some random ones as well
17:18.00Furyformand i was mad
17:18.02Furyform:)
17:18.04Tyraguanyone else getting diablo-3-update addiction?
17:18.13HP|Arthasnot really
17:18.14HP|Arthas:p
17:18.27Cesjust beta invitation addiction
17:18.37Tyragucan't stop refreshing my diablo 3 news websites for news about the beta and stuff? :P
17:18.46ChaotiKmy voicemail at work says ' im on the other line, leave a message' yet this one # keeps calling back to back. fuckin idiots
17:18.53CesTyragu you need something in your time
17:19.04ChaotiKjust subscribe to the diablofans RSS
17:19.09Furyformi use anime
17:19.10ChaotiKthen you don't have to refresh
17:19.13Furyform:)
17:19.29HP|Arthasalso, configure rss to fetch feed every 5 second
17:19.30HP|Arthas:D
17:20.05ChaotiKI have a lot of auto-blog websites that just fetch RSS feeds
17:20.10ChaotiKits sexy
17:20.19Furyformwhat do you suggest for tracking RSS with anyway...tracked some with browser a long time ago but it still required checking the damn thing heh
17:20.46ChaotiKgmail can rss subscribe
17:20.49TyraguI use google reader for rss with its 'Sort by magic' feature.
17:21.12Tyraguworks great if you get hundreds of new items every day.
17:21.13Furyformuhh...lol sort by ...magic? XD
17:21.24ChaotiKin fact you can use the google alert feature to email you ALL of the new diablo 3 information everyday
17:21.29ChaotiKgoogle.com/alerts i think
17:21.42ChaotiKonce a day, anything it picked up about diablo 3.. it will email u
17:21.51Tyraguyep :). They use your like, star and reading behaviour to figure out which items you'll enjoy the most and sort by that criterium
17:21.56HP|Arthasah well, movie time
17:21.58HP|Arthasnn peeps! :D
17:22.02ChaotiKwhat movie
17:22.08HP|ArthasAll dogs go to heaven
17:22.11HP|Arthasdon bluth ftw
17:22.24ChaotiKim waiting for lion king 3d
17:22.27Furyformi think i disliked that movie even when i was a kid
17:22.28ChaotiKgonna sing along with that shit
17:22.54HP|ArthasChaotiK good choice
17:23.10HP|Arthasalthough that 3d scares me
17:23.12ChaotiKi grew up with that movie.
17:23.18HP|Arthasso did u
17:23.19HP|Arthasi
17:23.30ChaotiKwe should hut it out man. we have things in common
17:23.32HP|Arthasbut i dont feel 3d adds to the experience
17:23.33ChaotiKhug*
17:23.38HP|Arthaswe'll see
17:23.43HP|Arthasdid you like beauty and the beast
17:23.44ChaotiKi just want my son to see it on the big screen
17:23.47HP|Arthastricky one
17:23.51ChaotiKomg i got something for you
17:24.14HP|Arthasimo aladdin was the last one i really liked from disney
17:24.27HP|Arthasmake your son watch secret of nimh :D
17:24.39Tyragu3d only adds to the experience if the whole movie was designed for 3d (e.g. Avatar). Converting a 2d-movie to 3d is the same as colouring black-and-white movies as they used to do when the first colour tv's became standard household appliances.
17:24.55HP|Arthas3d didnt add for me to avatar
17:24.56HP|Arthascrap
17:24.57HP|Arthas>p
17:24.58ChaotiKhttp://tosh.comedycentral.com/blog/2011/09/09/bonjour-girl/
17:25.05ChaotiKits a parady of beauty and the beast
17:25.06HP|Arthasoooh toshie
17:25.07ChaotiKits so funny
17:25.14HP|Arthasbtw, you should watch something by ed byrne
17:25.21TyraguI loved the 3d in avatar, but e.g. in Thor (which was post-converted to 3d) it sucked big time.
17:25.22HP|Arthassaw him on comedy central a few weeks ago
17:25.25HP|Arthasbrilliant
17:25.37ChaotiKhe was funny in person also. wife bought us tickets for our anniversary
17:25.41ChaotiKjasper red was good too
17:25.51HP|Arthaswho
17:25.54HP|Arthastosh or byrne?
17:26.25ChaotiKtosh
17:26.41HP|Arthasah
17:26.46HP|Arthasawesome present
17:26.59HP|Arthashavent watched as much tosh as i should have
17:27.15ChaotiKafk
17:28.03HP|Arthaswill have to watch that later, crap internet atm :(
17:28.15HP|Arthaslater ChaotiK
17:30.33Tyraguwonders how many people will be invited to the beta vs. the number of people who opted-in?
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17:50.10Link|9hi all
17:52.57DeathDefieryo
17:53.30ChaotiKlink
17:53.34ChaotiKhows the progress on the emu
17:53.59Link|9mine or theirs?
17:54.25ChaotiKyours?
17:54.41ChaotiKwho ever is the furthest
17:54.46Link|9mine can accept the packets from the client and interpret them with the protos, but it can't respond
17:54.53Link|9they are days ahead of me..
17:55.31ChaotiKthats pretty cool though
17:55.38Link|9mm
17:55.52Link|9i have a day of on wed when i can probably make some real headway
17:56.09Link|9however if the other groups put something up with source i'll probably lose interest
17:56.12Link|9off*
17:56.29Link|9this is a learning thing for me, a challenge.
18:00.26Mezahmm..i see people streaming changing skills while in combat..is it supposed to work like this?
18:00.34Link|9yes
18:00.40Link|9they have no plan to change that
18:01.02Mezawhy not just add more room on the toolbars then so we can avoid people having to change it while in combat then?
18:01.04Washidid it work on boss?
18:01.34Mezaseems silly to restrict how many skills u can have on the toolbar if you can change it in combat anyways
18:02.45Washihard to tell yet how often u want to switch skill later on
18:03.01Washimaybe momentary some certain cc/heal skill
18:03.29Washibut to kick ass u probably need to have well thought combo of skills with right passives on higher lvls
18:06.36ChaotiKpeople are speculating that this is just for beta and / or normal difficulty. easy to learn, hard to master
18:06.54ChaotiKi too agree that switching in combat is lame. i can just macro 25 skills then
18:08.28Washiyea i would prefer restrictions too
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18:16.48Fischer-.-
18:19.42ChaotiKfischer whats your take on
18:19.50ChaotiKrespeccing skills in combat
18:20.06ChaotiKkinda defeats the purpose of having 6 skills right
18:20.41Spl4sh3rwill take time to respec in combat
18:20.48Spl4sh3rplus not like you gain anything from it
18:20.50Washiwhy do these new monk passives look like they're meant for tank :P
18:20.58Spl4sh3rmonk is a tank?!
18:21.23ChaotiKmonk is the new paladin
18:21.25ChaotiKexcept with style
18:21.45Washibut dont they say monk has high dmg too
18:21.47Spl4sh3rdoesn't look like they have tank passives tbh
18:21.52Spl4sh3rmore like rogue passives
18:22.00ChaotiKresistance, damage,
18:22.01Spl4sh3revasion ;P
18:22.05ChaotiKdamage reduction
18:22.18Washiwell spirit regen, dodge, dmg reduce, healed 35% on fatal blow
18:22.21ChaotiKits a good mix
18:22.21Spl4sh3rall those rogues have in WoW ;P
18:22.41Washithey are joke maybe :P
18:22.43FischerChaotiK: yes
18:22.43Fischersomewhat
18:22.50Fischeri dont like that u can instantswap in combat
18:23.07Spl4sh3rI will probably end up taking the dodge passives (if they still exist) since you probably need those in higher difficulty
18:23.12Fischeri hope they change it, and make it town only, or at least give it a cooldown in combat
18:23.28Fischermost likely they will.. if enough people complain about it :P
18:23.29Spl4sh3rUntouchable....
18:23.32Spl4sh3rCan't touch this!
18:24.19Spl4sh3rCounterattack + Untouchable...not sure what third will be
18:24.36Fischeri hope for something like this in full retail game: Skills can be swapped, but for minor respec cost, and only in town.      OR skills can be swapped in combat, but it has a long cooldown.... no respec cost.. or very minor
18:24.57WashiSpl4sh3r, where do u see counter attack
18:25.00Spl4sh3ror...skills can only be swapped out of combat (WoW style)
18:25.00Fischeri dunno
18:25.04ChaotiKthere better be NO swapping in PvP
18:25.06ChaotiKNONE
18:25.10Fischerwell
18:25.12ChaotiK:(
18:25.14ChaotiKor i won't pvp ?(
18:25.15Spl4sh3rCounterattack - Requires level: 20 - When the Monk dodges an attack, the next skill has its Spirit cost reduced by 40%.
18:25.22Fischerpvp aint the focus of d3
18:25.31Fischerbut yea
18:25.34ChaotiKbut it will be a huge part of it
18:25.37Fischermaybe
18:25.41Fischerwe will see
18:25.45ChaotiKand they already have all spells doing different damage / CC times in pvp
18:25.50Spl4sh3rWashi checking the ultimate list of active and passives on forum :P
18:26.02WashiSpl4sh3r, no such skill in chaotiks site at least
18:26.14ChaotiKthe ones on the forums are outdated
18:26.19Spl4sh3rok then ;P
18:26.28Spl4sh3rwhats the link to his site ?
18:26.30Fischeri do think in combat swapping is bad... it should have a long cooldown.. or only be done in town..... and maybe a medium respec cost everytime u wanna change more than .. say 2 skills.. to keep gold cost up
18:26.38ChaotiKhttp://diablo3characterbuilds.com/monk/
18:26.51Spl4sh3rI prefer not being able to swap in combat...but also swap anywhere you want
18:26.54WashiSpl4sh3r, check those passives out in the bottom.. they are very passive :P
18:27.03ChaotiKvery
18:27.36Spl4sh3rTranscendence seems nice
18:28.06Spl4sh3rPacifism makes me think of MTG
18:28.32Fischerbut runestones will be a limiting factor to skills
18:28.36WashiChaotiK, are there new passive list for other classes too so i could compare the overall style of them?
18:28.42Fischerand they will generally make ppl not swap to much i guess
18:28.45ChaotiKmy site has them all
18:28.47ChaotiKjust click the menu up top
18:28.58WashiChaotiK, are they as up to date as monks
18:30.04Spl4sh3rI would have prefered if actives/runes were listed the same way as passives
18:30.30WashiChaotiK, hmm DH passives look new too
18:30.44ChaotiKthe wiki are getting up dated now
18:31.02Washiyea true, would be nice to see skill description before selecting it
18:31.40Spl4sh3rMantra of Evasion gives lots of dodge
18:31.42Spl4sh3r30% is alot
18:31.56ChaotiKwell splasher
18:31.58ChaotiKif i did that
18:32.01ChaotiKthe page would be a mile long
18:32.10Spl4sh3rone question, since the auras are party wide does the rune effect whole party also?
18:32.22ChaotiKyea
18:32.28Spl4sh3reven more op :P
18:32.29ChaotiKwithin 40 yards
18:32.53Spl4sh3rCrimson - Blowback on Mantra of Evasion <3
18:33.41Spl4sh3rwhats the max amount of party member?
18:33.58Meza4 i believe
18:34.12Spl4sh3rso 4 monks with different mantras = win?
18:34.23Washii see most classes lost the dmg passives which gave more crit/critdmg/dmg
18:34.46Spl4sh3rwell those seem to have been to much tbh
18:35.01Meera4 is the party limit
18:35.13Spl4sh3rwell going away, gonna go to the cinema :P
18:35.17Spl4sh3rFinal Destination 5
18:36.01Spl4sh3rhave fun
18:36.23Washii will.. once i'm in the beta
18:36.44ChaotiKmonk dps is pretty phat. maybe they don't need much dps passives
18:37.02Washiwell it looks like most classes dont have that many dmg boosting passives anymore
18:37.32Washiso monks not alone there hehe
18:43.14Magistratehrm
18:46.00nicoli_sgot some cool stuff coming to diablo fans later today/tom :)
18:46.08ChaotiKwhat do you got
18:46.13nicoli_syoull see :)
18:46.21nicoli_si hate to say it, but might compete with yer site :P
18:46.30ChaotiKgood
18:46.37ChaotiKim not trying to compete
18:46.52ChaotiKi just want good community info
18:47.15ChaotiKi want one of you go make the most bad ass character builder possible
18:47.31ChaotiKcause the way item attributes are looking im kinda scurred
18:48.02ChaotiKdid you make a skill / runestone interactive thingy?
18:49.06nicoli_syep
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18:49.31ChaotiKdid you make it easy to update so when they change stuff?
18:50.08ChaotiKand do you have the ability to side a bar from lvl 1 to lvl 60 and see the base damage on every level?
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18:50.40nicoli_si wish, thatll take some time
18:50.54ChaotiKcheck this out
18:51.46ChaotiKhttp://www.exceleverywhere.com/
18:51.58ChaotiKyou can build the page in excel, including the sliding scale
18:52.13ChaotiKi'll be using it once we know more about the end game values
18:52.31ChaotiKits what im using to build my calculator
18:56.12Washihmm, my internet speed seems to be capped lower after i installed win7
18:58.06ChaotiKi love my win 7
18:58.11Washinow what could cause that..
18:58.37Fischer._________.
18:58.49Fischerget wednesday alrdy
18:58.52Fischeri hate time.
18:59.15Fischerwho wants to help me invent a device that makes it possible to fastforward time?
18:59.23Fischeru cant go back tho..
19:00.49ChaotiKno ty
19:01.02MirtheNi have that, its called my bed
19:01.10Solttui can, we just need son ducktape, old radio, some wire, lighsbolts what else?
19:01.41MirtheN
19:04.34Meeramy gf does never talk, she just scream.
19:04.51ChaotiKshe just has difficulty controlling the volume of her voice
19:04.59Meeravery much
19:05.09AkaRainerdoes anyone know if slow effects stack?
19:05.30ChaotiKno clue
19:05.31AkaRainercuz i noticed that the DH has fan of knives, which slows and the trap spell that slows as well...
19:05.37AkaRainerdoes it super slow the mobs?
19:06.02ChaotiKim not sure since mobs don't have a visible debuff bar
19:06.09AkaRaineryeah.. :T
19:06.24ChaotiKthings die too fast in d3 to really matter all that much. but in pvp it would be nice to know
19:07.16Washiprobably doesnt stack
19:07.41AkaRainerif it doesnt stack then.. how does the mechanics work if u cast two slow spells within the same interval
19:07.51AkaRainerdoes the higher one take over and the timer refresh?
19:07.58AkaRaineror does the first one casted stay
19:08.21AkaRainerso many questions :D
19:08.30Washii guess amount of slow comes from the stronger spell
19:08.54ChaotiKhigher spells usually get overwritten
19:09.15ChaotiKerr. they do the overwriting?
19:09.21ChaotiKhow ever the grammer works on that
19:09.52Washiso having 2 guys slowing enemies would only keep em slowed for longer duration.. not slowing em for double amount
19:12.37ChaotiKnicoli_s im thinking of not making a full character builder and just making a skill damage calc.
19:13.04AkaRaineri wanna play :T
19:13.09AkaRainerno games atm for me to play...
19:14.18AkaRainerlemme know if u come up with a damage calc.. that will be useful =]
19:16.51Smithrainer, have u tried borderlands?
19:17.00AkaRaineri have
19:17.05AkaRainerlong ago
19:17.09Smiththats a good diablo like game
19:17.10AkaRainerlike.. 2-3 years ago
19:17.17Smithis it that old?
19:17.19Smithwow
19:17.19Smithlol
19:17.27AkaRainerwait.. the FPS game right?
19:17.28AkaRainerhaha
19:17.31Smithyes
19:17.37Smithdiablo like fps
19:17.46AkaRainerthen yes haha i played it
19:18.04AkaRaineri played deus ex recently
19:18.10AkaRainerbeat it. its a pretty good game
19:18.22AkaRainergood story
19:18.36Smithits lees than 2 years old... u trolling me lol
19:18.39Smithstill a bit old
19:18.46Smithbut i bought it recently
19:19.50AkaRainerOctober 26, 2009
19:19.54AkaRainerhaha clsoe enough
19:19.58AkaRainerabout 2 years
19:20.09AkaRaineri was just estimating the time
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19:24.52ChaotiKakarainer a damage calc is easy... without factoring in equipment
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19:25.51AkaRaineri usually just look at the in-game spell dmg value
19:26.51ChaotiKits nice to be able to theorycraft future equipment upgrades
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19:46.26DeathDefierAnyone here good with xsplit/streaming on JTV?
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19:49.16Fischerill suck your cock for betaz
19:49.17Fischer;_;
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19:50.44ChaotiKeww
19:50.52ExaiterAnd there he says it again
19:50.54ExaiterO.o
19:50.56Cesare you a hot girl?
19:51.00Fischery
19:51.09ExaiterEither that or a 40y old guy in a basement
19:51.09Traviismonstero.O
19:51.13Fischerye
19:51.15Fischerim both
19:51.19Fischerumad?
19:51.22Fischer;_;
19:51.24Traviismonsternah.
19:51.24ExaiterI can't say I'm mad O.o
19:51.34Traviismonster^has a nose bleed.
19:51.34ExaiterRather confused.
19:53.18Carecuphi
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20:25.31zzupertime for some hobo breakfeast
20:25.54Fischerill suck your cock for betaz ;_;
20:28.11ChaotiKrandom stats on legendaries are putting me in a rage
20:28.47Fischeru mad?
20:28.50ChaotiKso mad
20:28.59ChaotiKwhat made d2 items unique?
20:29.04ExaiterMeh, putting the diablo in legendaries :d
20:29.09ExaiterShoulda expected it.
20:29.11ChaotiKwas it that it was hard to find. or because it had set stats
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20:30.52ChaotiKyou can't tell people to go look for specific items if they are not garanteed to have the stats that are favorable to them
20:33.28Fischerbut...
20:33.37Fischerill suck your cock for betaz ;_;
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20:34.03ChaotiKok kaulov
20:39.12FischerBLIZZARD Y U NO RELEASE PUBLIC CLOSED BETA ?
20:42.09CarecupTo tease you, clearly.
20:43.36HatiFischer: because even then you wont be in :(
20:43.43Hatiso to make you feel better they dont
20:43.48Fischerill suck your cock for betaz ;_;
20:44.10Fischeri gotz 2 beta accs
20:44.12Fischerofc i will be in.
20:44.25FischerDon't be foolish old man.
20:45.05Hatiiam not old ;_;
20:45.49DartarisYou sound old
20:47.18Hatibut iam just 22 :(
20:47.24Fischerfu
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20:50.14Spl4sh3rback :P
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20:51.44Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP1SsfnSFDs
20:51.47Fischerbest trolling ever
20:52.48Spl4sh3rjust saw Final Destination 5 ;P
20:54.46Spl4sh3rnow for more diablo 3 info digging
20:56.07Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhZ-NZtJkKY&feature=related
20:56.11Astrapoysi have an issue for many years with the sound options in d2 like enviromental effects, grayed out, does anyone knows a solution?
20:56.58ChaotiKwhat
20:57.02ChaotiKare you using mono
20:57.18ChaotiKor stereo
20:57.41Dartaris7.1 Surround sound
20:58.25Astrapoys5.1
20:58.34Astrapoyswin7 64bit
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21:01.48Spl4sh3rSo when is a skill calculator coming out ? :P
21:02.00Spl4sh3rEven though it wouldn't be that useful I still wanna play around with one
21:07.09Spl4sh3rChaotiK just noticed Lethal Decoy doesn't work on the monk page
21:07.15Spl4sh3rI mean it gives 404
21:07.33ChaotiKdoh
21:11.09ChaotiKhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jK4rqHuZbs&feature=feedrec
21:11.12ChaotiKaww he won't buy d3
21:11.19ChaotiKcause yo ucan't play offline
21:11.53Mezacry me a river :)
21:12.17Ghostv0xxwelcome to 2011:P
21:12.59Maldiviathis is 2011?!
21:13.06Spl4sh3rnope
21:13.08Spl4sh3r2011½
21:13.20Mezano
21:13.27ChaotiKwho doesn't have internet in 2011. if you have a computer. you have internet
21:13.28Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P97iA3JDKZY
21:13.29Meza2011 3/4
21:13.30FischerAHAHAHAHA
21:13.42ChaotiKthe no LAN option was an issue like 8 years ago maybe
21:14.06Spl4sh3rChaotiK if you chose to list the active abilities at the top why do you still have the title for "Skills" at the bottom :P
21:14.21ChaotiKjust for seo purposes
21:14.26ChaotiKneeded a keyword in an h3 tag
21:14.47Spl4sh3rcan't it be hidden? :P
21:14.59Spl4sh3rinvisible = true? or something xD
21:15.40Hatihttp://knight-mj.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d49nogv
21:16.10Hati(or: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/255/f/e/diablo__friendship_is_loot_by_knight_mj-d49nogv.jpg
21:17.54Spl4sh3rannoying I have to make a silverlight website
21:18.08ChaotiKwtf
21:18.11Spl4sh3rI know it will be easy once I get started, but still :P
21:18.13ChaotiKthe lethal decoy is not working
21:18.19Spl4sh3rthats what I told you lol
21:18.37HatiSpl4sh3r: huh?
21:18.40Spl4sh3rnow its even worse
21:18.40Hatiwhat for?
21:18.48Spl4sh3rschool lab :P
21:18.57Spl4sh3runiversity
21:19.16Spl4sh3rtho I like silverlight websites, they are smooth
21:19.32Spl4sh3rinstead of clunky html sites
21:19.47Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzXsS6oePd4
21:19.49FischerWAHAWHWBWAWAV_WWAH
21:19.54ChaotiKworking now
21:20.27Spl4sh3rChaotiK now I see how you did the skills...I kept scroll clicking to open in a new tab so I thought it was weird when I viewed them :P
21:21.42Spl4sh3rSimulacrum ftw, Diablo Soulstone ;P
21:21.47Spl4sh3ror Ankh
21:24.19ChaotiKdude dude dude
21:24.58Spl4sh3rdude who?
21:25.15Hatiaw force :(
21:25.19Hatihe made hopes high up
21:25.22Hatiand then crushed i
21:25.22Hatit
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21:27.52Spl4sh3rFischer win :)
21:27.58Fischert
21:29.37Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIVTT4fgPQI&feature=related
21:32.33ChaotiKhahaha
21:34.35ExaiterNight folks
21:35.16Spl4sh3rI would just turn of vent if that happen
21:35.37Spl4sh3rif I was admin I would change pass and kick
21:35.59Spl4sh3rtbh as a monk what two handed weapons are there?
21:36.33Fischerhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KYQ4E8H-B8&feature=related
21:36.40Fischerthis is priceless
21:36.40Fischer:D
21:36.44Fischerseriously.. im dying of laughter..
21:36.45Fischeroh god
21:37.36Fischer:DDDDDD
21:37.40Fischerprofessional trollin
21:39.35Spl4sh3rlol
21:40.13ChaotiKwhat?
21:40.37Spl4sh3rif he left how did he record the last sentence?
21:41.20Fischer;))))))
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21:45.18CynikulI have a question about the whole pick a quest to start a game system if anyone can answer it for me.
21:45.59Fischeri can
21:46.00Fischerperhaps
21:46.16Fischerwhat is your question?
21:47.01CynikulAlright, for one I'm wondering what the point of it is.  If you were to start teh first quest in act 2, all the act 1 bosses would be dead.. correct?  In that case, what would be the point in starting a game with any quest but the first one in the game, so you can have the freedom to kill any boss in the game if you feel so inclined to?
21:47.43CynikulAfter completing the game that is.
21:48.21CynikulBecause to me it just seems like if you were interested in a certain boss or area, you could waypoint there and do it without having to start the game..  Unless the waypoint system is different now.
21:48.35Cynikulhaving to start the game under that certain quest*
21:49.05Fischerto my knowledge u can do any quest
21:49.13Fischerat any act once u ahve completed it
21:49.36Fischerso lets say u wanna do all quests in at 1 again.. ujust start from the start
21:49.47Fischertalk to the questgiver and go again
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21:50.36CynikulRight.  But what I'm asking is, what would be the point of ever starting from any quest besides teh first one?
21:50.46CynikulCould you not just start from the first quest, and portal toa ny act you wanted to?
21:50.51CynikulProvided you had been there before
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22:02.30KaulovI'm guessing no news on beta?
22:04.12Kaulovo_o
22:04.30Maldiviayou didn't get in ?
22:04.36KaulovNice joke
22:04.52Maldiviathey release keys for the first 50k to click the chat gem
22:05.03KaulovI bet they did
22:07.11CynikulI was all 50,000 people.  WTS 49,999 beta keys.
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22:09.47KaulovUgh
22:09.53KaulovFucking internet is trash. Again
22:10.33Spl4sh3rlol
22:10.47Spl4sh3rfirst come first serve betas are annoying, since it takes forever to load sites and such ;P
22:11.00Spl4sh3rI remember getting into US Open Beta for WoW xD
22:11.31Spl4sh3rhad to google some random adress thoguh since I live in EU :P
22:11.53Maldiviathe wow open beta site was hammered
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22:12.19Maldiviabut the 100k keys was also gone in what, 45 minutes or so?
22:13.04Maldiviaand that's with the webserver crashing every 4 minute or so :p
22:13.12Spl4sh3rand the open beta didn't last long at all
22:13.22Spl4sh3rthough didn't matter later I got into the EU Closed Beta
22:13.23Maldivia2 weeks
22:13.49Kaulov.
22:13.50Kaulovwait
22:13.50Spl4sh3rtho I really slacked on the beta xD
22:13.55KaulovYou guys aren't kidding?
22:14.01KaulovThey really gave out keys?
22:14.12Spl4sh3ron the US open I got to level 18 in two weeks
22:14.22Spl4sh3ron the EU closed & open I got to level 27 in 2 months
22:14.37Spl4sh3rthen retail I took level 40 in 3 days :D
22:17.23Kaulov..so they really gave out keys
22:17.25KaulovYes or no
22:17.25Kaulovo_o
22:17.54Spl4sh3rdoes it matter? eitherway you don't have a key :P
22:18.00Kaulov.
22:18.02Kaulovsighed
22:18.04KaulovFuck it
22:18.06Spl4sh3r:D
22:18.09KaulovI'm in installing the launcher
22:18.17Spl4sh3rI have no idea though :p
22:18.18KaulovUn*
22:18.24Spl4sh3rI haven't payed much attention
22:19.11Spl4sh3rto be honest have they changed how monks works? Since I just read some skills can only be used with fist weapons and others with staves only?
22:19.26Spl4sh3ris it still that or is it all skills with all abilities now?
22:19.31Spl4sh3rlol
22:19.36Spl4sh3r*all skills with any weapon
22:21.16Kaulovmeh..
22:22.32Spl4sh3rand another question, since the stash is account wide...can you put a hardcore item in there and take it out on a softcore character?
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22:22.46Kaulovmaybe.
22:22.48MaldiviaSpl4sh3r: seperate stach for hard and soft
22:22.53KaulovLame
22:22.55Spl4sh3r:P
22:23.02KaulovDid anyone here get a beta key from clicking the gem?
22:23.03Kaulovo_o
22:23.04Spl4sh3rsame with the gold?
22:23.15Spl4sh3rwhat gem are you on about anyway?
22:24.50WashiSpl4sh3r, it could be certain skills require claws/staff
22:25.26Spl4sh3rbut the skills themself doesn't tell us that
22:25.32Spl4sh3r*themselves
22:26.05WashiSpl4sh3r, passive says dualwielding gives 10% dodge, staves 20% spirit regen
22:26.18WashiSpl4sh3r,but dualwielding does it mean claws only
22:26.32Spl4sh3rwell thats the only thing, and its not an active skill :P
22:26.47Spl4sh3rplus that one works on both types xD
22:26.49WashiSpl4sh3r, at least d2 had claw only attacks ;)
22:28.15WashiSpl4sh3r, some of monks passives sound bit lame :)
22:28.38Spl4sh3rsome tank, some heal and some dps ;P
22:28.50Spl4sh3rits a shaman
22:29.42Spl4sh3rhow much resources do you have when at 100%?
22:29.49Spl4sh3ras a Monk
22:29.59Washihaven't check... 100?
22:29.59Kaulovdid
22:30.01Kaulovanyone
22:30.01Kaulovget
22:30.02Kaulovbeta
22:30.03Kaulovyes
22:30.05Kaulovor
22:30.07Kaulovno
22:30.09Kaulov:|
22:30.10Lyprinno
22:30.47Spl4sh3rno
22:30.55Spl4sh3r100 feels abit low
22:31.00Washiblue post said today they dont know when the beta starts
22:31.12Spl4sh3rSeven Sided Strike + Beacon of Ytar seems win
22:31.45Spl4sh3rthen you take Way of the Hundred Fists aswell to get spirit back and to get even more punches flying
22:31.58CynikulWhere, Washi?
22:32.26WashiSpl4sh3r, so could do 2-3 seven sided strikes in row
22:32.46Spl4sh3rno
22:32.51Spl4sh3rif 100 is max then only 1
22:32.56Spl4sh3rsince it would cost 75 spirit
22:33.01WashiSpl4sh3r, u can raise it with passive to 130
22:33.10Spl4sh3rthen still 1
22:33.12Spl4sh3r:P
22:33.18Spl4sh3r150 is two
22:33.21WashiSpl4sh3r, items might give more
22:33.36Spl4sh3rwell eitherway stack up on spirit and use some hundred fists to restore spirit
22:33.42WashiSpl4sh3r, well i think u can generate that 20 pretty fast
22:33.56Spl4sh3r6 per spirit generating attcks
22:34.02Spl4sh3rwhich has no cooldown
22:34.24Spl4sh3ror nvm the hundred fists...exploding palm is better for the aoe combo
22:35.16WashiCynikul, "Still no updates about the Closed Beta launch, we'll gladly share any new info about this as soon as possible."
22:35.38CynikulAhhh.  Thanks.
22:37.05WashiSpl4sh3r, fist of thunder does it hit many times like Zeal did?
22:37.58Spl4sh3rdoes it really matter? it seems the damage is calculated for the whole attack, not for each hit ;P
22:38.26Spl4sh3ratleast I think so
22:40.03Washiit probably hits 3 times
22:40.52Washias one rune effect says "third strike generates chain lightning"
22:40.59Spl4sh3rnope its combo
22:41.03Spl4sh3rif you use it as the third attack
22:41.13Spl4sh3ratleast that is how I read it
22:41.44Spl4sh3rotherwise it has no special combo thing ;P
22:44.35Washiah ye certain skills are combos
22:45.05Spl4sh3rall spirit generating ones are combo skills
22:45.08KaulovI feel like a pussy on Dead Island
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22:45.12KaulovThese zombies scare me
22:45.13Kaulov:(
22:45.23Destructusis the irc link off the main diablofans page?
22:45.45Spl4sh3rhuh?
22:45.51WashiSpl4sh3r, what do u use the combo points for
22:45.58Spl4sh3rthere are no combo points
22:46.00Destructuson the main mage of daiblofans.com
22:46.09Destructusthere was a irc link
22:46.13Destructusnow is gone
22:46.17WashiSpl4sh3r, the same skill that loads em will release em?
22:46.17Destructusjust asking
22:46.50Spl4sh3rWashi some runes have different effects depending on which number you used that attack on at 1-3 ;P
22:47.40WashiSpl4sh3r, but the skills have effect without runes too?
22:47.44Spl4sh3rfor example fist of thunder indigo runes, if you use fist of thunder as 3rd attack it will cause a chain lightning effect :P
22:48.20Spl4sh3ronly exploding palm has a real combo without runes
22:48.56Spl4sh3rwhich is third attack gives a dot that explode on death
22:49.22Kaulovofuk
22:49.39WashiSpl4sh3r, if u load combo point up with fist of thunder for example.. can u release it with other skill or only with the skill u use to load it up?
22:49.39KaulovI pissed off zombies
22:49.40Kaulov;.;
22:50.01Spl4sh3rWashi no combo points, just number of attacks in a row :P
22:50.04Maldiviajust remember, zombies are the new vampires
22:50.17Spl4sh3rand any skills work in any combo combination
22:50.21WashiSpl4sh3r, i need to try it to see how it is :P
22:50.34Spl4sh3rthough combo ends at 3rd attack then restart with 1st ;P
22:50.52Spl4sh3rI'm sure that some attacks also stops the combo
22:51.34Spl4sh3rsince I still only think attacks that gives spirit works with combo while those who costs spirit aren't combos
22:52.12WashiSpl4sh3r, lots of combinations to try out
22:52.40Spl4sh3ronly 6 skills gives spirit
22:52.56Spl4sh3rmeaning 6^3 different combos
22:53.09Spl4sh3r216 xD
22:53.16Washiwith runes?
22:53.36Spl4sh3rdoesn't matter if you have rune or not, the number of combinations doesn't change :P
22:54.03Washibut need to try which rune is good too :)
22:54.56Spl4sh3rfist of thunder alabaster for more dodge x3 then you can use dashing strike obsidian for even more dodge :P
22:55.19Spl4sh3rcombined with mantra of evasion for 30% extra dodge
22:55.25Washiand passive 50% dodge of ur crit rating
22:55.56Washiby the looks monk will get crit only from gear tho
22:56.26Spl4sh3rand the 10% extra dodge when dual wielding passive
22:56.47Washidodge monk
22:56.49Spl4sh3r:D
22:56.52Spl4sh3rI'm so gonna do that
22:57.00Spl4sh3rsounds like a good build for inferno
22:57.07Washiheh
22:57.13Spl4sh3rand dashing strike has no cooldown !
22:57.50Spl4sh3rplus the fist of thunder alabaster stacks X times...so at inferno the runes will be so much better = more dodge per stack and more stacks
22:58.09Spl4sh3ryou will probably go over 100% dodge unless they fix that
22:58.48Washimost likely will see some changes in passives before release
22:58.59Spl4sh3rand you take mantra of evasion with crimson rune = when you dodge you do aoe damage
22:59.26WashiSpl4sh3r, build a monk that only kills by dodging
22:59.38Spl4sh3rI will try
22:59.56Washiu wont attack anyone.. but if they hit u they die
23:00.49Spl4sh3rplus you can take serenity which makes you immune to all damage for a few seconds
23:00.57Spl4sh3rjust incase
23:01.29Spl4sh3rwith alabaster serenity you deal aoe by % of the damage taken during it
23:01.49Washiyes.. but it lasts only 3 second
23:02.06Spl4sh3rit increases with level or so
23:02.11Spl4sh3rsince the time is in blue ;P
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23:02.32Washilvl 60 its 12 second
23:02.33Spl4sh3ralso take Tempest Rush Obsidian to take even less damage and you can rush through enemies to get away ;P
23:02.43Washiso people can whine about the bubble again
23:02.59Spl4sh3rserenity recall?
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23:04.05Spl4sh3rnahh probably won't take serenity in the build, its to expensive
23:04.05WashiSpl4sh3r, mantra of conviction sounds quite good
23:04.16Spl4sh3rnot with my dodge build
23:04.40Spl4sh3rbut we'll see how much dodge I end up with
23:04.50WashiSpl4sh3r, pretty big +% dmg
23:04.57Spl4sh3rchaotik why doesn't the active skill display what level you get them at?
23:05.07Spl4sh3rWashi but you can't dodge aoe when you use that
23:05.19chaotikmost of them do
23:05.27chaotikthe ones that don't is cause they come in the first few levels
23:05.33Spl4sh3rnvm was just mantras
23:05.41Spl4sh3rnvm ;P
23:05.47Spl4sh3rprobs just checking those you get at beginning xD
23:05.48WashiSpl4sh3r, yea i guess u can make quite survivalist out of the monk
23:06.29Spl4sh3raccording to the level displayed (if correctly) I can start with all attacks except tempest rush at level 1 for my dodge build :P
23:06.45Spl4sh3rjust without the runes =/
23:06.52chaotikwithin the first 10 levels
23:07.42Spl4sh3rchaotik top 4 skills on spirit spender has no level req, sounds wrong
23:08.01chaotikchaotik not care. =p
23:08.19Spl4sh3rits your website, fix it :P
23:08.39chaotikyou can switch the skills as much as you want anyway
23:09.52Spl4sh3rwell doesn't really matter either, since runes aren't available until act 2
23:10.08WashiSpl4sh3r, so monk has passive to avoid 1 death + decoy to avoid 1 death
23:10.21Spl4sh3rand tons of dodge skills
23:10.27Spl4sh3rand a summon spell
23:10.33Washiwhich summon
23:10.41Spl4sh3rMystic Ally
23:11.03Spl4sh3ran elemental ally
23:11.23HatiWashi: burn him
23:11.37Hatiscolded enemies dont raise
23:11.38WashiSpl4sh3r, ah right
23:11.38Kaulovyawned
23:11.45KaulovSo glad I start home schooling tomorrow
23:11.51KaulovNow I can watch D3 news 24/7
23:12.03chaotikhome school? that sucks. no social life
23:12.15plashStory of my life.
23:12.23KaulovThere is no social life at my private school
23:12.24Kaulov:\
23:12.34KaulovHardly anyone there, no decent women
23:12.37KaulovMost sluts
23:12.40Spl4sh3ryou are social on irc
23:12.49KaulovILL SUCK YER DICK FOR BETAZ
23:12.49Kaulov;-;
23:13.17WashiSpl4sh3r, this sounds fun.. i wanna play ;)
23:13.22Spl4sh3rI'll accept, and since you didn't say any special conditions you get my beta day before its over
23:13.54chaotikhell still do it
23:14.11KaulovOnly if he is at least 5 1/2
23:14.21KaulovAnything lower I will not go for.
23:14.22Kaulov:(
23:15.03Spl4sh3rso actives = Fists of Thunder, Dashing Strike, Lethal Decoy, Tempest Rush, Mantra of Evasion + Random - passives: The Guardian's Path, Sixth Sense and Transcendence
23:15.22Washiwhat u gonna do with decoy?
23:15.34Spl4sh3rsave me from dying ?
23:15.38Washihehe
23:15.54Spl4sh3ror I probs not take it tbh
23:15.56Spl4sh3rso 2 randoms
23:16.11Spl4sh3rbut still Transcendence + Tempest Rush = lots of heal
23:16.20Washiits bit tricky. it lasts 5 seconds?
23:16.32Spl4sh3rTranscendence does 1.7 health per spirit and Tempest Rush costs 12 per second
23:16.38Washiso u need to know when u die, throw it out and u just teleport to it if u get killed
23:16.58Spl4sh3rthe 5 seconds gets longer with higher level
23:17.10Washiyea probably
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23:17.12Spl4sh3rplus with the rebirth thingy it lasts even longer to begin with
23:17.22Spl4sh3rsince it won't be a decoy at all then
23:17.27Washimystic ally has rune to give more HP
23:17.48Spl4sh3rI'd rather go with the Eternal Ally
23:18.17WashiSpl4sh3r, iron monk.. doesnt die from anything
23:18.19Spl4sh3rsince it's not like the monk will take alot of damage with dodge build compared to the ally who gives health (and also taunts) :P
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23:19.07Spl4sh3rtho not sure if Transcendence will be good....Pacifism reduce damage taken when stunned an such would be better
23:19.22WashiSpl4sh3r, that build kinda sounds like u might be able to just stand next to boss hitting
23:19.30Spl4sh3rhehe
23:19.31Spl4sh3rwe'll see
23:19.45Spl4sh3rwhat is base dodge anyway?
23:19.52Washiuh.. 5% ?
23:20.15Washididn't they show screenshot in gamescom with the lvl 60 stats
23:20.40Spl4sh3rand gear can give dodge
23:20.55Washiyou could even use shield if u want
23:20.59Washi:P
23:21.03Spl4sh3rnahh
23:21.11Spl4sh3rthat is just % dmg reduced
23:21.58Washiyea i think shields wont be that popular in d3 anyway
23:22.21Revinwhats the point of the shield in D3?
23:22.27Revindamage mitigation?
23:22.32Washinot much, unless they come up with something good enough
23:22.35Revinmaybe you'd see more of it in HC games
23:22.55Kaulov..;-;
23:22.59Revinseems to me that another sword with +HP stats would be more useful
23:23.01KaulovAnyone have Dead Island for PS3?
23:23.03Washican DH use shield and 1h bow
23:23.17Spl4sh3ryou mean one handed crossbow
23:23.27Washiyea mini crossbow :P
23:23.29Spl4sh3rthere is no bow that works with 1 hand :P
23:24.39Revinno bow drawing with your teeth?
23:26.43Spl4sh3rif I say exemption application do you know what I mean?
23:26.48WashiSpl4sh3r, maybe if its really small and u use thumb
23:26.50Spl4sh3rjust checking if google translate correctly xD
23:29.30Spl4sh3rnvm just wrote it anyway
23:30.02Washitax exemption?
23:30.16Spl4sh3rno for a school course
23:30.42Spl4sh3rif you don't meet the criteria for it ;P
23:30.59Spl4sh3r"When the demons come, close your eyes and ring this... it takes you far, far away..." - unknown
23:32.18Spl4sh3rHow do you make a spoiler thingy when you write on forum?
23:32.45Spl4sh3rnvm got it on first try ;P
23:36.21WashiSpl4sh3r, i wonder if any monk attacks actually hit with the weapon the monk is using :P
23:36.34Spl4sh3rprobs if you are using fist weapon
23:36.40Spl4sh3rwhich is why I asked if there was a weapon req for skills
23:38.01Spl4sh3rif I were to just guess (if there are weapon req) I would say Fists of Thunder, Exploding Palm and Way of the Hundred Fists are fist weapon attacks and Deadly Reach, Crippling Wave and Sweeping Wind are stave weapon attacks
23:38.36Spl4sh3rthose that cost spirits seems to be able to work with both weapons
23:38.38Washiyea would make sense
23:39.07Washiit could be on higher levels theres no point to use other type of weapons on monk
23:39.41Washibut if the fist weapons even disappear while punching would be quite lame :P
23:39.59Spl4sh3rI am curious how long the Dodge part of the skills lasts
23:41.25Washiif its only staves/fist weapons that shows hit animation would be good enough
23:42.57Kaulov-=IF=- the beta does start tomorrow, between what times do you think Blizzard will announce it?
23:43.40Hati9am 6pm
23:43.46Hatipst
23:43.54Hati(gmt-9)
23:44.02Hatiiirc
23:44.12Hatior -8
23:45.13Spl4sh3reitherway I will be asleep
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23:47.15Spl4sh3rI can easily see Barbarians taking the Unforgiving passive
23:55.54Spl4sh3rgonna watch a movie and then bed....cya ;P

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