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| 12:35.47 | TomKa | does anybody know when exim4 packages 4.92-8+deb10u6 for amd64 will enter beowulf-security? |
| 12:37.40 | TomKa | because of 21Nails |
| 12:39.41 | djph | nope :( |
| 12:42.58 | onefang | When Debian puts it into buster-backports, since exim4 isn't one of the packages we fork, so we can only follow them. |
| 12:44.37 | xinomilo | it's already in debian/security |
| 12:44.52 | xinomilo | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/exim4 |
| 12:44.59 | TomKa | buster-backports has 4.94.2-1~bpo10+1 |
| 12:45.03 | TomKa | ? |
| 12:45.13 | xinomilo | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/package-query.html?c=package&q=exim4=4.92-8+deb10u6 |
| 12:46.39 | TomKa | yes, but not exim4-base which is for amd64: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=exim4-base |
| 12:47.46 | TomKa | it's only available for arm64 and ppc64el, https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=exim4 |
| 12:47.50 | onefang | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/exim4 says "Accepted exim4 4.92-8+deb10u6 (source) into stable->embargoed, stable" to answer the original question about that specific version. |
| 12:48.35 | onefang | "Accepted exim4 4.94.2-1~bpo10+1 (source) into buster-backports->backports-policy, buster-backports" |
| 12:49.39 | onefang | Beowulf-backports has 4.94.2-1~bpo10+1 now. |
| 12:51.02 | TomKa | strange, that we have to use backports for getting urgent security updates in stabel |
| 12:51.04 | TomKa | stable |
| 12:51.38 | xinomilo | don't use backports. debian has this version in buster-security, just checked from buster machine |
| 12:51.58 | xinomilo | beowulf-security is not updated yet.. |
| 12:51.59 | onefang | 4.94 is the backport, coz 4.92 is the actual version in Beofulf / Buster. That's just how Debian rolls. |
| 12:52.22 | xinomilo | backports don't get security updates easily/fast, so use it with caution |
| 12:53.24 | TomKa | yes, I know |
| 12:58.01 | onefang | I should be getting to bed soon. Perhaps one of the other devs can check on amprolla and see what's going on. I don't know much about that anyway. |
| 12:58.30 | TomKa | are the devs here? or should I jump into #devuan-dev for it? |
| 12:58.51 | onefang | Us devs tend to hang out in both. |
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| 13:19.09 | onefang | Just discussed things with the other devs that happen to be around at the moment. Yep amprolla needs a kick, but we need to wait for the devs that know where the right boot is. |
| 13:19.41 | TomKa | onefang: thanks and good night ;-) |
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| 14:21.22 | Junicchi | is there any way to install virtualbox to chimaera/ceres ? |
| 14:21.47 | Junicchi | cause i'm getting E: Package 'virtualbox-6.1' has no installation candidate |
| 14:24.19 | xinomilo | apt install virtualbox |
| 14:26.20 | gnarface | maybe it is a temporary failure? |
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| 14:27.15 | Junicchi | can't find virtualbox on repository, it has no installation candidate |
| 14:28.48 | Junicchi | its just i already had virtualbox but after updating from beowulf to chimarea its deleted |
| 14:29.14 | gnarface | well it is not unheard of for things to go missing from testing temporarily |
| 14:29.39 | gnarface | you remembered to run "apt-get update" first, right? |
| 14:30.23 | Junicchi | ofc |
| 14:31.36 | Junicchi | i know that virtualbox is a crap but i had existing vms |
| 14:31.57 | Junicchi | can't install virtualbox from official dep repos either cause it breaks |
| 14:33.29 | xinomilo | it's available in ceres repo |
| 14:33.33 | xinomilo | version 6.1.20-dfsg-1 |
| 14:34.42 | Junicchi | then i'm now sure that something is wrong with my sourceslist or something |
| 14:34.48 | Junicchi | i lived the same problem with some nvidia-drivers too |
| 14:35.11 | fsmithred | I'm seeing it only in ceres, also |
| 14:35.13 | Junicchi | http://ix.io/3lXT |
| 14:35.24 | Junicchi | what do you guys think about my sourceslist |
| 14:36.05 | xinomilo | you have chimaera and experimental only. |
| 14:36.07 | xinomilo | not ceres |
| 14:36.11 | Junicchi | oh |
| 14:36.25 | fsmithred | if you add ceres, you should pin it to a lower priority |
| 14:36.30 | fsmithred | if you want to stay on chimaera |
| 14:38.16 | Junicchi | dunno how to doit but trying rn |
| 14:38.18 | fsmithred | wow. FTR, the ceres version will not install on beowulf. |
| 14:38.24 | fsmithred | rn? |
| 14:38.28 | fsmithred | oh |
| 14:39.11 | fsmithred | make a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d/ you pick the file name |
| 14:39.18 | fsmithred | Package: * |
| 14:39.30 | fsmithred | Pin: release n=ceres |
| 14:39.32 | Junicchi | what should be the content |
| 14:39.34 | Junicchi | oh |
| 14:39.42 | fsmithred | Pin-Priority: 1 |
| 14:39.47 | fsmithred | then... |
| 14:39.54 | fsmithred | apt -t ceres install virtualbox |
| 14:39.59 | fsmithred | or whatever package from there |
| 14:40.07 | fsmithred | oh |
| 14:40.22 | fsmithred | after you add the line for ceres to sources.list, you must apt update |
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| 14:42.55 | Junicchi | fsmithred: installed successfully thanks for help |
| 14:43.04 | fsmithred | yw |
| 14:43.13 | Junicchi | can i also install from older repositories with this method? |
| 14:43.32 | fsmithred | for future, remember you can convert the VM disks to another format to use them with qemu |
| 14:43.45 | Junicchi | i'll probably swap to qemu |
| 14:43.57 | fsmithred | yeah, you could in theory install from beowulf or ascii |
| 14:44.09 | fsmithred | might have trouble with dependencies |
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| 16:27.33 | fsmithred | am I really here? |
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| 16:43.44 | djph | fsmithred: are any of us really here? |
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| 17:14.00 | IanJ | You're really here if I'm really here fsmithred. |
| 17:18.00 | IanJ | I asked a question yesterday, if it's becomming more difficult / time consuming over time, to make the necessary package changes for devuan or if the required time/effort is remaining about the same. It may have been too early for some... |
| 17:20.57 | rm | they are just too busy making the necessary package changes |
| 17:21.00 | rm | :) |
| 17:22.48 | IanJ | Well, they are fighting the good fight. I just hope it's a battle they can win! |
| 17:25.21 | DashiePie | me too, Ian, me too |
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| 17:59.39 | Elio_Milano | Ciao a tutti.. mi sembra di scorgere dei nick di italiani e la cosa è piacevole :) Mesi fa ho aggiornato questo sistema da Jessie a Beowulf. Ed ora addio a startx -> xorg -> openbox :-( Qualcuno è competente in materia? Nel log utente di Xorg: "parse_vt_settings: Cannot open /dev/tty0 (Permission denied)", un classico. Da root Xorg si avvia.. |
| 18:03.18 | Elio_Milano | Umh. Ora di cena.. |
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| 18:21.05 | Elio_Milano | nessuno allora -.- ? |
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| 19:13.06 | fsmithred | Elio_Milano, make sure elogind and libpam-elogind are installed, or else you need xserver-xorg-legacy and edit Xwrapper.config. See the release notes (at files.devuan.org/beowulf |
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