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01:46.27tuxd3vthe secure boot thing that in the ends plagues everything :)
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15:46.23parabyteokay i cant get nfs shares to automount on latest 3.1
15:46.31parabyteim getting this error and other errors
15:46.32parabyteSun Mar  7 15:19:07 2021: /etc/init.d/rpcbind: 42: /etc/init.d/rpcbind: stat: not found
15:46.35parabytethis is the first error
15:46.47parabyteanyone got any insight?
15:47.09parabytei can mount shares manually from my fstab for example mount /mnt/share
15:47.34ErRandirstat is in coreutils
15:49.42parabyteyeah i got coreutils installed
15:49.50parabyteits some sort of bug im hitting i think ErRandir
15:50.17parabyteim only a user, but from what i can tell the rpcbind script cant find stat
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16:13.50ErRandirIt's in /usr/bin/ for me. Maybe that directory is not in the PATH when /etc/init.d/rpcbind is invoked.
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18:07.29parabyteErRandir, yes it was a bug with stat
18:08.12parabytein the network if up script, it calls the script for nfs eventually well in the initial script in the PATH there was no path to where stat lives
18:08.32parabytedo i need to make a bug report or can someone here follow this up?
18:12.14numzobso I've got a program the compiles in other distros, and it fails to compile in devuan.  near as I can tell, it fails to find ncurses.  fought with it a while. got a little crazy.  even did "apt-get install ncurses*" (note the wildard, using the shotgun aproach there).  error message has moved from the compile phase (.h file) to the link phase (library).  Near as I can tell I've included anything even
18:12.20numzobremotely related to ncurses.  can i have a hint please?  Oh, here is a one line sample of the errors it gives me: /usr/bin/ld: xci.c:(.text+0x77f5): undefined reference to `wrefresh'
18:13.49iv4nshm4k0vnumzob: How does your linking command look like?  Specifically, does it include "-lncurses"?
18:14.34numzobfull command (small program): cc -o xci -lncurses xci.c
18:14.59numzobworked previously in lfs and slackware
18:15.35numzobi know debian, and this devuan, breaks things into package and package-devel but even so it's dirving me bonkers
18:15.50numzobs/this/thus/
18:16.02golinuxparabyte: Have you checked Debian bugs?
18:16.30parabytei sent a bug email to devuan explaining what i have done to make nfs mounting via fstab work
18:16.41golinuxThat's probably where you'll have to file one if it's not already there.
18:16.49fluffywolfdo you have lib64ncurses-dev (or 32)?
18:16.56masonnumzob: Have you checked your ld.so.conf and ruled out a funny LD_LIBRARY_PATH and so forth?
18:16.57iv4nshm4k0vnumzob: Try putting -lncurses last; like: $ cc -o xci xci.c -lncurses .
18:17.02golinuxIf we don't fork the package, we don't fix it
18:17.48parabytegolinux, was a really really really easy fix i just altered the PATH variable in /etc/network/if-up.d/mountnfs
18:17.59parabyteso that the nfs script that mountnfs calls could see stat
18:18.08masonparabyte: Do you have a separate /usr or somesuch?
18:18.37parabytemason, no
18:19.41numzobfluffywolf: no.  looks like i have to explicitely install the 64 version.  that is unexpected, being that this is on a 64 bit cpu
18:21.18fluffywolfdoes that make it compile?
18:21.44numzobwell, I don't have a funny $LD_LIBRARY_PATH ... but then again, I haven't got a $LD_LIBRARY_PATH.  Hmm.
18:21.53numzobfluffywolf: trryinh that next
18:23.22fluffywolfalthough I think installing libncurses-dev should magically get everything...
18:23.53numzoblibncurse-dev i installed before even trying to compile
18:24.25fluffywolfI have a multi-arch system; could be you don't need the extra 32/64 versions...
18:25.04iv4nshm4k0vI see that ld does /not/ report it can't find the library; only that it can't find specific functions that are ought to come from that library.  It looks like an ordering issue; ISTR that in ld (cc) invocations the objects can only use other objects or libraries specified /after/ said objects.  For that reason, all the '-l's would be specified after all the '.o's (and '.c's and whatnot.)
18:25.05numzobinstalling the 64 bit ncurses explicitly, did two things: one: it told me that i already had the 64 bit versions installed.  two: it installed the 32 bit versions.
18:25.32numzobreording, ok.  tryng that next
18:27.12numzobreordering fixedit.  wow.
18:27.23numzobthank you  :)
18:27.47fluffywolfthat's an issue I've never seen.  I always put all my -ls first.  lol
18:28.18numzobyeah, that's a thing i was not expecting
18:30.56iv4nshm4k0vfluffywolf: There may be some inconsistencies in how different compilers / linkers / builds / environments handle ordering.  I think I've either seen myself or heard from others about either "-l can be anywhere" or "-l should go last" only, though.
18:30.58masonnumzob: You normally don't *want* LD_LIBRARY_PATH. But it's the cause of similar errors sometimes.
18:32.02numzobmason: ohhhh, ok.  thank you, as my next was to try and set it (and probably go crazy :p )
18:32.36masonnumzob: Sometimes at work we see people who have one fork special purposes applications, and it ends up hosing a vast array of unrelated software.
18:32.56masonThey'll set it in their environment generally rather than in a start-up script for whatever the odd software is.
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