| 00:09.46 | *** join/#devuan jotaxpe (jotaxpe@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/jotaxpe) |
| 00:15.28 | *** join/#devuan Xenguy (~Xenguy@devuan/community/Xenguy) |
| 00:18.46 | *** join/#devuan hellekin (~how@unaffiliated/hellekin) |
| 00:19.16 | *** join/#devuan sixwheeledbeast (~zem@2a01:4f8:c17:101::2) |
| 00:22.24 | *** join/#devuan jelly-home (jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly) |
| 00:23.00 | *** join/#devuan maldoror[m] (maldorortc@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-hiyshpvqssoacdnm) |
| 00:23.14 | *** join/#devuan metalune[m] (metalunekd@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-omhkwjrolusozqdg) |
| 00:24.30 | *** join/#devuan oxr463[m] (oxr463matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zxhgzceezbtwkomj) |
| 00:34.15 | *** join/#devuan yanmaani (~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani) |
| 00:35.05 | *** join/#devuan fluffywolf (~furrywolf@li92-159.members.linode.com) |
| 00:44.38 | *** join/#devuan Xenguy_ (~Xenguy@devuan/community/Xenguy) |
| 00:57.19 | *** join/#devuan jess (jess@freenode/staff/jess) |
| 01:04.22 | *** join/#devuan gast0n (~g4570n@unaffiliated/g4570n) |
| 01:12.54 | *** join/#devuan sixwheeledbeast (~zem@2a01:4f8:c17:101::2) |
| 01:12.54 | *** join/#devuan chr[] (~chr@rudorff.com) |
| 01:12.54 | *** join/#devuan xar- (xar-@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fe24:4661) |
| 01:12.54 | *** join/#devuan bpmedley (~bpm@69-174-155-24.bltnilaa.metronetinc.net) |
| 01:12.54 | *** join/#devuan jonadab (~weirdidio@cpe-174-105-122-60.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 01:17.26 | *** join/#devuan xrogaan (~xrogaan@unaffiliated/xrogaan) |
| 01:19.22 | *** join/#devuan arnoldoree (~arnoldore@113.211.118.27) |
| 01:22.36 | *** join/#devuan gavlee (~gav@unaffiliated/gavlee) |
| 01:36.22 | *** join/#devuan cerna (cernamatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-phvytywsfxxqpgab) |
| 01:41.51 | *** join/#devuan Jeybe[m] (jeybespoot@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ylwkvzcgevlqbmdg) |
| 01:42.14 | *** join/#devuan hombre[m] (hombretchn@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-umewfpuauyzwjeni) |
| 01:44.03 | *** join/#devuan rgh[m] (rghfilterf@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rjnodeslssnbfjdo) |
| 01:44.04 | *** join/#devuan metalune[m] (metalunekd@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-mgihogjqjsqamoio) |
| 01:46.06 | *** join/#devuan metalune[m]1 (metalunema@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ceirsbzripzdbggh) |
| 01:46.12 | *** join/#devuan maldoror[m] (maldorortc@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zlwzbmpfolknikno) |
| 01:47.21 | *** join/#devuan grin[m] (gringrinhu@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jwcgojpcnulogfou) |
| 01:47.22 | *** join/#devuan chimay[m] (chimaymatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jymlitamlsftnrau) |
| 01:48.17 | *** join/#devuan soloojos[m] (soloojosma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-rormhiakjqgirnbe) |
| 01:57.16 | *** join/#devuan h3rm17[m] (h3rm17matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jdupabucjtnqwhza) |
| 02:01.55 | *** join/#devuan ac_laptop (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) |
| 02:27.06 | *** join/#devuan telmich (nicounglei@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-juiixvxnmsskpdrg) |
| 02:28.57 | *** join/#devuan humpelstilzchen[ (erikmailus@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ymyfcuaucxxucvov) |
| 02:31.02 | *** join/#devuan n4dir (~n4dir@i5E8666A2.versanet.de) |
| 02:31.46 | *** join/#devuan grin[m] (gringrinhu@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ndvzzhqrmlsjnldy) |
| 02:31.55 | *** join/#devuan Jeybe[m] (jeybespoot@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pypuucxmewpgxwyo) |
| 02:33.19 | *** join/#devuan metalune[m]1 (metalunema@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zvgbreyxiuzwznup) |
| 02:33.31 | *** join/#devuan hombre[m] (hombretchn@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zwrsdrsllrhkedcz) |
| 02:33.34 | *** join/#devuan chimay[m] (chimaymatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lzhymvqumrusnvwr) |
| 02:34.28 | *** join/#devuan soloojos[m] (soloojosma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-wopkfqtvwzcbljwr) |
| 02:45.28 | *** join/#devuan metalune[m] (metalunekd@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-etjhiozlbpvzcxvp) |
| 02:47.38 | *** join/#devuan rgh[m] (rghfilterf@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-byfjeybsrcngeubj) |
| 02:52.35 | *** join/#devuan oxr463[m] (oxr463matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pfwusyplmghedbrj) |
| 02:54.36 | *** join/#devuan maldoror[m] (maldorortc@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-nizkikukoursnkbb) |
| 03:06.17 | *** join/#devuan h3rm17[m] (h3rm17matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qynzyrulayowuoec) |
| 03:06.19 | *** join/#devuan cerna (cernamatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-owrqwxuyqruolqrz) |
| 03:19.51 | *** join/#devuan n4dir (~n4dir@i5E8666A2.versanet.de) |
| 03:22.42 | *** join/#devuan ac_laptop (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) |
| 03:30.01 | *** join/#devuan DSyndrome (~deathsyn@deathsyn.com) |
| 03:30.02 | *** join/#devuan captain_ (~captain@32.211.181.220) |
| 03:30.41 | *** join/#devuan DarkPlutonium (~DarkUrani@stdrand.com) |
| 03:31.19 | *** join/#devuan sedrosken_ (~sedrosken@ec2-3-135-225-176.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 03:32.13 | *** join/#devuan __zxq9__ (~zxq9@FL1-119-244-160-91.okn.mesh.ad.jp) |
| 03:34.03 | *** join/#devuan lyubov_ (~lyubov@172-3-143-10.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:34.08 | *** join/#devuan djph_ (~dpurgert@104-57-151-177.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:34.08 | *** join/#devuan djph_ (~dpurgert@devuan/community/dpurgert) |
| 03:34.27 | *** join/#devuan r3boot_ (~r3boot@shell.as65342.net) |
| 03:35.13 | *** join/#devuan Marrek_ (~Marrek@mamut.spseol.cz) |
| 03:36.38 | *** join/#devuan cp-- (~cp-@b157153.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) |
| 03:38.44 | *** join/#devuan gnarface__ (~gnarface@108-227-52-42.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:39.06 | *** join/#devuan kreyren[m] (~kreyren@unaffiliated/kreyren) |
| 03:39.19 | *** join/#devuan werneta (~werneta@70-142-214-115.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 03:41.31 | *** join/#devuan gordonDrogon (~gordon@watertower.drogon.net) |
| 03:42.58 | *** join/#devuan maldoror[m] (maldorortc@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-uzvbsolxbilqegzc) |
| 03:43.31 | *** join/#devuan GuntherDW (~guntherdw@quadran.system33.be) |
| 03:44.28 | *** join/#devuan Helle (~helle@80-100-16-232.ip.xs4all.nl) |
| 03:45.27 | *** join/#devuan fsmithred (~fsmithred@devuan/developer/fsmithred) |
| 03:45.36 | *** join/#devuan cyteen (~cyteen@static-84-9-179-245.vodafonexdsl.co.uk) |
| 03:46.46 | *** join/#devuan D-HUND (~debdog@194.140.112.227) |
| 03:51.16 | *** join/#devuan soloojos[m] (soloojosma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zreukodoazudfhwm) |
| 04:12.02 | *** join/#devuan ziao (~ziao@85.203.44.118) |
| 04:13.38 | *** join/#devuan dagelf (~quassel@dsl-197-245-56-53.voxdsl.co.za) |
| 04:14.54 | *** join/#devuan ac_laptop (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) |
| 04:35.19 | *** join/#devuan nyov (~nyov@unaffiliated/nyov) |
| 04:45.56 | *** join/#devuan ar3itrary (~hacker@2a03:4000:6:8177:2::1) |
| 04:56.03 | *** join/#devuan ar3itrary (~hacker@2a03:4000:6:8177:2::1) |
| 05:00.26 | *** join/#devuan jonadab (~weirdidio@cpe-174-105-122-60.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 05:07.47 | *** join/#devuan yanmaani (~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani) |
| 05:08.45 | *** join/#devuan ar3itrary (~hacker@2a03:4000:6:8177:2::1) |
| 05:50.29 | *** join/#devuan DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 05:59.00 | *** join/#devuan luser977 (~resuuser@188.27.66.146) |
| 06:03.59 | *** join/#devuan bru (~bru@181.31.9.16) |
| 06:31.21 | *** join/#devuan ruenoak (~rue@125-237-145-140-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz) |
| 06:40.15 | *** join/#devuan GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) |
| 06:57.16 | *** join/#devuan search_social (~search_so@99-112-18-250.lightspeed.hstntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:07.00 | *** join/#devuan markizano (markizano@2600:3c00::f03c:92ff:fe86:b66e) |
| 07:07.00 | *** join/#devuan stiltr (~stiltr@c-73-12-245-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 07:11.52 | *** join/#devuan fling (~fling@fsf/member/fling) |
| 07:13.40 | *** join/#devuan infobot (ibot@96-86-209-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 07:13.40 | *** topic/#devuan is Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Beowulf 3.0 stable, ASCII 2.1 old-stable) | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ | take offtopic chat to #devuan-offtopic |
| 07:13.40 | *** mode/#devuan [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
| 07:15.01 | *** join/#devuan xinomilo (~xinomilo@gateway/tor-sasl/xinomilo) |
| 07:21.55 | *** join/#devuan djph (~dpurgert@104-57-151-177.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net) |
| 07:21.55 | *** join/#devuan djph (~dpurgert@devuan/community/dpurgert) |
| 07:26.35 | *** join/#devuan sedrosken (~sedrosken@ec2-3-135-225-176.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 07:26.37 | *** join/#devuan alv (~alv@217.171.66.105) |
| 07:29.43 | *** join/#devuan Joril (~joril@217.194.188.145) |
| 07:33.12 | *** join/#devuan GNUmoon2 (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) |
| 07:35.46 | *** join/#devuan ruenoak (~rue@125-237-145-140-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz) |
| 07:40.02 | *** join/#devuan ruenoak (~Thunderbi@125-237-145-140-fibre.sparkbb.co.nz) |
| 08:05.55 | *** join/#devuan n4dir (~n4dir@i5E8666A2.versanet.de) |
| 08:23.25 | *** join/#devuan crayxmp (~crayxmp@lfbn-lil-1-473-5.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:26.05 | *** join/#devuan luser978 (~resuuser@188.27.66.146) |
| 08:37.20 | *** join/#devuan dagelf (~quassel@dsl-197-245-43-49.voxdsl.co.za) |
| 08:46.15 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p200300ee8f16513045536e20b88c48cb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:01.06 | *** join/#devuan Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali) |
| 09:42.12 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p200300ee8f16513045536e20b88c48cb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:46.13 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p200300ee8f16513045536e20b88c48cb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:49.05 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p200300ee8f16513045536e20b88c48cb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:49.23 | *** join/#devuan systemdlete2 (~systemdle@c-73-66-176-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:58.54 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~henry@p200300ee8f165130b29928fffed74794.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:10.42 | *** join/#devuan AndyGB (79b0175b3b@cappuccino.street.me.uk) |
| 10:23.38 | *** join/#devuan alv (~alv@5.179.150.250) |
| 10:29.04 | *** join/#devuan ziao (~ziao@85.203.44.118) |
| 10:43.35 | *** join/#devuan systemdlete2 (~systemdle@c-73-66-176-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:56.25 | *** join/#devuan systemdlete2 (~systemdle@c-73-66-176-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 11:03.59 | *** join/#devuan bz2S (~bull@185.117.72.168) |
| 11:06.00 | *** join/#devuan systemdlete2 (~systemdle@c-73-66-176-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 11:34.47 | *** join/#devuan psarria (~psarria@213.94.48.104) |
| 11:39.09 | *** join/#devuan Guest57 (~helle@unaffiliated/helle) |
| 12:03.52 | *** join/#devuan sunshavi (~user@190.42.230.123) |
| 12:14.03 | *** join/#devuan GNUmoon (~GNUmoon@gateway/tor-sasl/gnumoon) |
| 13:04.28 | *** join/#devuan infobot (ibot@96-86-209-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 13:04.28 | *** topic/#devuan is Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Beowulf 3.0 stable, ASCII 2.1 old-stable) | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ | take offtopic chat to #devuan-offtopic |
| 13:04.29 | *** mode/#devuan [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
| 13:10.19 | *** join/#devuan sssb54 (~ssssb56@vps-b2931db6.vps.ovh.ca) |
| 13:18.16 | *** join/#devuan asdflkj (~root@c-69-243-91-117.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 13:31.20 | *** join/#devuan rgh[m] (rghfilterf@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-urtuasqulxqsrxab) |
| 13:36.24 | *** join/#devuan cerna (cernamatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-awwjkrphnyazdtge) |
| 13:39.09 | *** join/#devuan maldoror[m] (maldorortc@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-yxfkoiimhehcatfw) |
| 13:39.09 | *** join/#devuan metalune[m]1 (metalunema@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fdnfcvqqlogomqpj) |
| 13:40.43 | *** join/#devuan soloojos[m] (soloojosma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xztoqhkpclvjunje) |
| 14:15.11 | *** join/#devuan grin[m] (gringrinhu@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-lnyjonshdygcywtw) |
| 14:20.05 | *** join/#devuan Defender1031 (~DeFender1@109-186-174-65.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 14:27.13 | *** join/#devuan rsx (~rsx@ppp-188-174-142-23.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 14:36.12 | *** join/#devuan targz (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/targz) |
| 14:40.55 | *** join/#devuan h3rm17[m] (h3rm17matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-esiipyeqtpdcipmn) |
| 14:40.55 | *** join/#devuan metalune[m]1 (metalunema@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ormbhvvqwefudrlg) |
| 14:40.55 | *** join/#devuan metalune[m] (metalunekd@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-pxkgzbzdwxxqktyr) |
| 14:40.55 | *** join/#devuan oxr463[m] (oxr463matr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-qcbyukrajxwjesav) |
| 14:40.55 | *** join/#devuan cerna (cernamatri@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ehwfhlxykscafrsj) |
| 14:40.55 | *** join/#devuan chimay[m] (chimaymatr@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ailfwxjqzhpyduim) |
| 14:40.55 | *** join/#devuan telmich (nicounglei@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-asbtjayphdjhwfrh) |
| 14:40.55 | *** join/#devuan soloojos[m] (soloojosma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zlyfdsvmxqkmmibs) |
| 14:40.56 | *** join/#devuan hombre[m] (hombretchn@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ucqthzpkszcdylox) |
| 14:40.56 | *** join/#devuan maldoror[m] (maldorortc@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-mtgpbfmkcfhllrly) |
| 14:40.56 | *** join/#devuan humpelstilzchen[ (erikmailus@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zyitcafvwyvsrjcj) |
| 14:41.01 | *** join/#devuan Jeybe[m] (jeybespoot@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-xadsdnrlsingwpnz) |
| 14:41.01 | *** join/#devuan rgh[m] (rghfilterf@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-objhjfefhyrenalm) |
| 14:41.23 | *** join/#devuan Akuli (~akuli@82-203-160-194.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 14:51.01 | FlibberTGibbet | hi, just installed beowulf on my new machine. have amd 4650G cpu -- "vega 7" inbuilt grahics. have installed the non-free firmware etc, the amdgpu and radeonn drivers -- still stuck in console... |
| 14:51.33 | FlibberTGibbet | according to lsmod neither of those drivers is loaded against 'video' |
| 14:52.01 | Joril | firmware-amd-graphics ? |
| 14:52.19 | FlibberTGibbet | latest version, yes |
| 14:52.34 | FlibberTGibbet | and libdrm-amdgpu1 |
| 14:52.53 | FlibberTGibbet | plus mesa and vulkan stuff |
| 14:54.51 | Joril | mmh found a post mentioning the kernel parameter amdgpu.exp_hw_support=1 |
| 14:54.56 | Joril | not sure if it could help |
| 14:55.45 | *** join/#devuan KnoP (~KnoP@5.145.140.242) |
| 14:56.15 | FlibberTGibbet | worth a try, thanks! |
| 14:59.11 | Joril | Hope it helps :) |
| 15:03.20 | FlibberTGibbet | sadly not :( |
| 15:11.14 | *** join/#devuan DashiePie (~Rawr@c-73-152-100-71.hsd1.wv.comcast.net) |
| 15:12.21 | Joril | Are you running the "stock" kernel or one from backports? |
| 15:12.47 | *** join/#devuan asdflkj2 (~root@c-69-243-91-117.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 15:15.22 | *** join/#devuan yanmaani (~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani) |
| 15:16.28 | gnarface | FlibberTGibbet: that hardware might be new enough to need the backports kernel, firmware, and mesa versions |
| 15:20.02 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~henry@p200300ee8f165130b29928fffed74794.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:20.39 | *** join/#devuan gast0n (~g4570n@unaffiliated/g4570n) |
| 15:34.47 | *** join/#devuan st3ma (~st3ma@88.133.163.96) |
| 15:40.24 | asdflkj2 | my devuan installer is looking glitchy: http://0x0.st/--hj.png |
| 15:45.37 | hemimaniac | asdflkj2: I see the low memory mode in the left, RAM bad? is this a really old machine? |
| 15:45.55 | hemimaniac | did you verify the .iso after download |
| 15:49.42 | *** join/#devuan cocoadaemon (~foo@2a01:e0a:4e1:97e0:a69c:dc6e:df01:d357) |
| 15:49.46 | asdflkj2 | this is the VPS I was asking about yesterday |
| 15:50.07 | asdflkj2 | I went to sleep part way through installing |
| 15:50.47 | asdflkj2 | I had chosen the settings for full disk encryption before bed |
| 15:51.01 | asdflkj2 | then I confirmed them and let it install this morning |
| 15:52.35 | asdflkj2 | the dialog asking if I wanted to scan more disks looked like that |
| 15:52.47 | asdflkj2 | but it still let me choose not to |
| 15:52.59 | asdflkj2 | and went to the screen I linked to |
| 15:53.33 | asdflkj2 | but when I saw it still looked glitchy I got worried enough to post it here |
| 15:56.42 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 15:57.57 | *** join/#devuan yanmaani (~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani) |
| 15:59.38 | *** join/#devuan bru (~bru@181.165.84.63) |
| 16:30.27 | *** join/#devuan drmbls (~marius@78-56-83-14.static.zebra.lt) |
| 16:34.25 | *** join/#devuan Nukien (~Nukien@162.250.233.55) |
| 16:34.43 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 17:00.40 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 17:00.42 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p200300ee8f16513045536e20b88c48cb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:05.17 | gnarface | has anyone had problems with the shader cache size on amdgpu? |
| 17:06.33 | gnarface | docs suggest it defaults to 1GB, which should be enough, but i'm only seeing about 100MB on disk, and experiencing a performance regression that matches the symptoms for shader cache failure on nvidia |
| 17:07.00 | gnarface | could be coincidental |
| 17:07.07 | gnarface | but i figure someone else might have noticed |
| 17:09.23 | *** join/#devuan secretmyth (~secretmyt@2601:646:9682:f40::60b0) |
| 17:11.08 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 17:24.33 | *** join/#devuan ar3itrary (~hacker@2a03:4000:6:8177:2::1) |
| 17:33.11 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 17:34.43 | *** join/#devuan Guest70 (442a443f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.42.68.63) |
| 17:35.16 | Guest70 | should i purge my xfce desktop before upgrading to ceres |
| 17:36.15 | Guest70 | i used the live iso to install and i wasn't able to do a minimal install |
| 17:37.21 | *** join/#devuan amesser (~amesser@p5b05510e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:53.06 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p200300ee8f16514845536e20b88c48cb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:54.26 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 17:57.59 | *** join/#devuan alexandros_c_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531) |
| 17:58.04 | *** join/#devuan alexandros_tab (~quassel@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531) |
| 18:00.37 | *** join/#devuan Guest70 (442a443f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.42.68.63) |
| 18:01.38 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 18:05.50 | *** join/#devuan Seb95passiongnul (~sebastien@2a01cb000fb620008447071259964809.ipv6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:07.43 | *** join/#devuan theManPager (442a443f@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.68.42.68.63) |
| 18:08.07 | theManPager | i was stupid and decided to manually rename my user account |
| 18:08.21 | *** join/#devuan gast0n (~g4570n@unaffiliated/g4570n) |
| 18:08.23 | theManPager | i changed the username and home directory strings in /etc/password |
| 18:08.36 | theManPager | and i'm checking the /etc/group file |
| 18:08.49 | theManPager | do i just replace all cases of the old username with the new one i want |
| 18:17.44 | gnarface | that will probably work for the filesystem rules, but some of your user's config files may have got the old username into them statically... you might want to grep |
| 18:26.34 | Wonka | Err:7 http://deb.devuan.org/merged testing-security InRelease |
| 18:26.34 | Wonka | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.37 | Wonka | wot? |
| 18:28.05 | markthegoat | using search and replace with vim in /etc/shadow, /etc/gshadow, /etc/passwd and /etc/group made this work for me |
| 18:28.32 | markthegoat | idk if i missed any config files though |
| 18:29.04 | markthegoat | i didn't know grep did search and replace |
| 18:29.40 | gnarface | well, it doesn't really, but it can give you line numbers and file names |
| 18:29.57 | gnarface | then you can manually replace or whatever |
| 18:30.08 | gnarface | if it's a fresh install it's unlikely to find a lot of such incidents |
| 18:30.30 | gnarface | but if you're carrying over hundreds of ~/.* files from an old home directory, god only knows... |
| 18:30.52 | markthegoat | oh no it's a fresh install |
| 18:30.59 | gnarface | mostly that's only likely to sabotage userspace stuff anyway, but if you don't know about it it can be maddening |
| 18:31.18 | gnarface | especially if it's something like years later pulseaudio is telling you you're not you and you can't remember why that could be |
| 18:31.25 | markthegoat | hm |
| 18:31.39 | markthegoat | alright so grep oldname in /etc/ should check for this right? |
| 18:31.51 | gnarface | grep -rni 'oldname' /etc |
| 18:31.57 | markthegoat | alr |
| 18:31.57 | gnarface | grep -rni 'oldname' /home |
| 18:32.26 | gnarface | should spit out a list of file names with line numbers and the matched line in question, or just nothing if you're clean |
| 18:34.36 | markthegoat | came up in hostname bc my old name was the same as my hostname |
| 18:34.48 | markthegoat | also comes up on /etc/hosts as the localhost |
| 18:34.51 | markthegoat | so i think i'm good |
| 18:35.02 | markthegoat | at least for /etc |
| 18:36.26 | markthegoat | in /home i see a lot of entries in the refracta installer log |
| 18:37.34 | markthegoat | and in .x session errors, but that makes sense bc when i changed my home dir name, the desktop environment disappeared, leaving only the windows open |
| 18:39.26 | markthegoat | idk what dbus-update activation environment does but it seems like it sets the user account up |
| 18:39.27 | *** join/#devuan conifer (~conifer@gateway/tor-sasl/conifer) |
| 18:39.42 | markthegoat | and that went ok when i logged out and the logged in again |
| 18:40.17 | markthegoat | it also had some issues with .ICEauthority and stuff |
| 18:40.22 | markthegoat | everything is fine though |
| 18:40.22 | markthegoat | so |
| 18:40.29 | markthegoat | i'm not sure if i should worry about it |
| 18:40.33 | *** join/#devuan cd (~cd@unaffiliated/cd) |
| 18:42.28 | gnarface | nah, probably not |
| 18:42.38 | gnarface | it's probably fine |
| 18:44.27 | markthegoat | yeah they were just in the error logs |
| 18:52.29 | conifer | hi, I have a couple of unrelated questions. Q1 - I reported an odd issue on the forum some, uhh, half a year ago, and I found a workaround since then |
| 18:53.07 | conifer | should I add it to my post, or such thread necromancy would be frowned upon? |
| 18:55.12 | conifer | Q2 - I installed a tool that relies on docker, but I only use it once in a blue moon. can I make docker only run when it's needed, instead of starting with each boot? |
| 18:55.38 | gnarface | conifer: check to see if it made it into the bug tracker |
| 18:56.53 | gnarface | for docker not to run on every boot, if it doesn't have it's own config flag for that (check /etc/defaults/, i dunno) you can rename the /etc/rc?.d/* symlinks pointing to it's init script |
| 18:57.37 | conifer | you mean debian bugtracker? I don't think so, it was kind of mystery bug |
| 18:57.43 | gnarface | (you an also use a tool like sysv-rc-conf or update-rc.d to automate that, but renaming them by hand to start with a "K" instead of a "S" is easy, if tedious) |
| 18:58.11 | gnarface | oh, well i'd necro the post just for posterity but i don't moderate that forum, so i dunno if that'll get you flak |
| 18:58.30 | gnarface | but no, i don't mean the debian bug tracker, i meant bugs.devuan.org |
| 18:59.12 | gnarface | if it's something specific to a devuan-forked package, or a package that might need to get forked specifically for devuan, then people are probably gonna want the info |
| 18:59.16 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 18:59.29 | gnarface | if it's something that also affects debian there's little that can be done |
| 19:01.48 | conifer | it was related to apt not recognizing repository keys, but I couldn't figure out what was up, so not sure if anyone could reproduce it |
| 19:04.51 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 19:12.12 | *** join/#devuan infobot (ibot@96-86-209-99-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 19:12.12 | *** topic/#devuan is Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Beowulf 3.0 stable, ASCII 2.1 old-stable) | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://reisenweber.net/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ | take offtopic chat to #devuan-offtopic |
| 19:12.13 | *** mode/#devuan [+v infobot] by ChanServ |
| 19:12.25 | markthegoat | had some trouble installing weechat |
| 19:12.39 | markthegoat | i think there wasn't a ruby thing on devuan's repos |
| 19:12.55 | markthegoat | i'll have to try again once i've switched to ceres |
| 19:17.26 | *** join/#devuan Acacia (~Acacia@unaffiliated/acacia) |
| 19:17.46 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 19:23.16 | *** join/#devuan Acacia (~Acacia@unaffiliated/acacia) |
| 19:27.40 | conifer | gnarface: I found I have a file /etc/init/docker.conf that includes |
| 19:27.54 | conifer | start on (filesystem and net-device-up IFACE!=lo) |
| 19:27.59 | conifer | stop on runlevel [!2345] |
| 19:28.52 | conifer | will this clash with the renaming in /etc/rc?.d ? |
| 19:29.03 | *** join/#devuan Acacia (~Acacia@unaffiliated/acacia) |
| 19:29.24 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 19:36.15 | gnarface | conifer: well, "clash" isn't the right connotation, but yes, basically renaming the symlinks will supersede that config line. You should use the config line, don't mess with the symlinks in this case. |
| 19:41.11 | conifer | how do I change it to only run docker on-demand? |
| 19:42.35 | conifer | anyway, Q3 - in mate system monitor and xfce task manager I can see the cpu and memory usage of each app. I'd like to view how much network traffic each app generates |
| 19:44.03 | conifer | is there a program that would let me see it? doesn't need to be gui |
| 19:48.53 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 19:59.57 | *** join/#devuan shibboleth (~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth) |
| 20:05.56 | gnarface | conifer: if you only want docker to run on demand, you'd want to configure it to STOP in all runlevels (not start) - that config line you pasted seems to be using "!" in the traditional form as a negation operator. so it's saying stop in not all the runlevels (i know, it's weird) |
| 20:06.09 | gnarface | conifer: for per-program bandwidth usage check out jnettop |
| 20:08.26 | conifer | so I should leave the "start" line as it is, and only remove the negation in the "stop" line? |
| 20:08.41 | gnarface | i don't know, what does the start line say? |
| 20:08.47 | gnarface | you might have to change both, sorry i'm not a docker expert |
| 20:08.58 | gnarface | but maybe all you have to do is move the "!" from one line to the other |
| 20:10.09 | gnarface | also it's listing runlevels 2, 3, 4, 5... which is basically all of them but just fyi you're only ever going to use #2 |
| 20:10.55 | gnarface | redhat and derivatives do different stuff with the runlevels but debian just puts everything in #2 and reserves the others for your own customization |
| 20:13.33 | conifer | ok, so you mean I should put the ! in the "start" line? where exactly? it doesn't have runlevels, I pasted it as it is |
| 20:13.42 | conifer | or should I rather consult docker people? |
| 20:13.56 | gnarface | oh i see |
| 20:14.02 | gnarface | that IS the start line and the stop line you're saying |
| 20:14.58 | gnarface | well, you SHOULD read the docker docs, yes. but i recommend you just try removing the "!" from the stop line to see if that's enough |
| 20:15.29 | gnarface | if it's programmed so the stop rules supersede the start rules, then that should be sufficient |
| 20:15.51 | gnarface | otherwise you'll have to figure out what passes for a null set in the context of that start line |
| 20:16.04 | gnarface | or just feed it an impossible situation |
| 20:16.29 | gnarface | (like start on an interface you don't have or !filesystem or something i dunno... yea reading the documentation is the smart approach) |
| 20:18.03 | gnarface | the syntax they're using shows elements of regexp and boolean operator awareness, but i would be wary of assuming too much |
| 20:21.32 | conifer | OK, I'll either try to get more information, or try removing the ! and see if it works |
| 20:22.20 | conifer | thanks for your help! |
| 20:22.25 | gnarface | no problem |
| 20:22.29 | gnarface | good luck and happy friday :) |
| 20:24.00 | conifer | oh, and concerning my Q1 - do you know if the forum mods hang out here? so I could ask them how to handle my old post? |
| 20:24.20 | gnarface | golinux: ^ |
| 20:24.30 | conifer | thanks, enjoy your weekend! :) |
| 20:24.35 | golinux | Yes? |
| 20:25.10 | golinux | conifer: PM me |
| 20:25.54 | golinux | I haven't be following this channel very closely. |
| 20:25.57 | conifer | hi, I reported an odd issue half a year ago or so |
| 20:27.08 | *** join/#devuan kelsoo1 (~kelsoo@dragora/developer/kelsoo) |
| 20:28.21 | *** join/#devuan conifer (~conifer@gateway/tor-sasl/conifer) |
| 20:36.56 | *** join/#devuan luser977 (~resuuser@188.27.66.146) |
| 20:38.36 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 20:50.53 | *** join/#devuan tomg (~tomg@67-43-135-90.border8-dynamic.dsl.sentex.ca) |
| 20:51.52 | *** join/#devuan KREYREN (~kreyren@gateway/tor-sasl/kreyren) |
| 20:58.03 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 21:04.43 | conifer | gnarface: sorry for bugging you again - docker folks told me basically to set it to start never. should I literally make the docker.conf say "start never"? or what is the correct sysvinit syntax? |
| 21:07.33 | gnarface | conifer: uh... i honestly can't tell you for sure if they meant to literally put the word "never" in the config file on the start line. i *can* tell you the docker project generates a disproportionate amount of helpdesk noise, which has negatively impacted my opinion of it without having ever used it, and that the sysvinit "syntax" is to just rename all these symlinks so they start with a "K" instead of an "S": ls -l |
| 21:07.33 | gnarface | /etc/rc?.d/*dock* |
| 21:08.05 | *** join/#devuan ac_laptop (~ac_laptop@186.2.247.129) |
| 21:08.15 | gnarface | conifer: (note that i'm assuming the name of the init script for docker contains the word "dock" in it, and that it's the only thing on your system that does... two possibly flawed assumptions you should really double-check yourself) |
| 21:09.25 | *** join/#devuan systemdlete (~systemdle@c-73-66-176-19.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:09.29 | gnarface | you don't even have to double-check it yourself, in fact. if you /msg me the output of that ls -l i'll double-check it for you |
| 21:09.43 | conifer | docker people say this needs to be done outside of docker itself, at sysvinit level |
| 21:09.53 | gnarface | ok, do the symlink then |
| 21:09.58 | gnarface | symlinks |
| 21:10.30 | gnarface | they just point to a script in /etc/init.d/ |
| 21:10.31 | conifer | I already did the renaming when you first advised it, then I noticed the /etc/init/docker.conf file |
| 21:10.33 | gnarface | or they should anyway |
| 21:10.36 | gnarface | ah i see |
| 21:10.44 | conifer | and was going to undo the renaming |
| 21:10.52 | gnarface | ah i see |
| 21:10.54 | conifer | to do it in a less-hacky way |
| 21:11.32 | gnarface | well i agree, that's what i'd want to to too. it's weird that they go through all the trouble of putting such complex rule syntax in their config and not supporting an "off" state |
| 21:12.10 | gnarface | in fact so much so that i'd hesitate to even bet on it not being possible |
| 21:12.49 | gnarface | s/to to too/to do too/ |
| 21:13.02 | conifer | well, I had the impression they thought it was weird for devuan & sysvinit to do this through such complex rule syntax in the config file :P |
| 21:13.51 | gnarface | shrugs |
| 21:14.03 | conifer | so maybe this is how maintainers handle the docker package for debian/devuan? |
| 21:14.23 | gnarface | yea it could be non-standard |
| 21:14.35 | gnarface | i don't know, but that is a thing that distro-native versions of stuff often do |
| 21:14.56 | gnarface | where'd you get that docker package? is it a devuan-forked one? |
| 21:15.13 | gnarface | in most cases, it's gonna be something debian added |
| 21:15.51 | fsmithred | Looks like there is /etc/default/docker |
| 21:16.11 | gnarface | oh |
| 21:16.18 | conifer | the tool I wanted to use suggested to use the docker repo as it is fresher than debian's |
| 21:16.23 | fsmithred | that might have on/off |
| 21:16.25 | gnarface | if there is, there's probably a flag to disable it in there |
| 21:16.32 | fsmithred | it's in docker.io package |
| 21:16.40 | conifer | so I did that, so probably made things less-standard |
| 21:16.46 | fsmithred | and FTR I have no clue about any of this |
| 21:17.58 | conifer | I have a /etc/default/docker, but there isn't much in it, and it's all commented out |
| 21:18.09 | fsmithred | nothing to disable? |
| 21:18.12 | gnarface | well read it ffs |
| 21:18.17 | gnarface | it was intended to be read |
| 21:18.19 | conifer | no on/off things |
| 21:18.43 | conifer | just proxy settings, temp files location etc |
| 21:18.47 | gnarface | bummer |
| 21:19.13 | conifer | gnarface: I did when you first mentioned it! |
| 21:20.04 | gnarface | sorry, you didn't say anything so i just assumed you ignored that part |
| 21:20.30 | conifer | I saw it's a dead end so tried the other things |
| 21:20.59 | gnarface | i talk alot and most people read about half of it, it's not your fault |
| 21:21.11 | fsmithred | I tuned in a little late and didn't read everything. What was problem with disabling the symlinks? |
| 21:21.31 | fsmithred | that's what I do with services I only want to use occasionally. |
| 21:21.36 | conifer | well, maybe I could add some option to this file, but it's not obvious to me, not as simple as changing on to off |
| 21:21.48 | fsmithred | with easy checkboxy method sysv-rc-conf |
| 21:22.36 | conifer | once in a blue moon I use a tool that it relies on docker, I want it to only start when needed, not on every boot |
| 21:22.54 | fsmithred | about as often as I want to run samba |
| 21:23.39 | fsmithred | does /etc/init.d/docker respond normally to stop|start|restart? |
| 21:25.36 | conifer | how do I invoke it? |
| 21:26.11 | fsmithred | oh |
| 21:26.21 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.25 | fsmithred | or start |
| 21:26.52 | fsmithred | or with nothing and it should tell you what words you can use |
| 21:26.53 | conifer | I was thinking systemctl or whatever |
| 21:26.57 | fsmithred | lol |
| 21:27.01 | fsmithred | service docker stop |
| 21:27.40 | conifer | service docker stop worked |
| 21:27.46 | fsmithred | and the sysvinit people had the sense to put the actual command at the end |
| 21:28.01 | fsmithred | so you can just up-arrow, backspace a couple |
| 21:28.03 | conifer | sorry, I'm a pretty basic person and don't know much about stuff |
| 21:28.08 | fsmithred | and change stop to start |
| 21:29.00 | fsmithred | ps ax |grep dock |
| 21:29.10 | fsmithred | see if anything is left running |
| 21:29.51 | fsmithred | so you could disable docker and just start it manually when you need it |
| 21:30.00 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@189.237.102.209) |
| 21:39.52 | conifer | fsmithred: could you tell me more about the sysv-rc-conf thing? |
| 21:40.34 | *** join/#devuan Acacia (~Acacia@unaffiliated/acacia) |
| 21:40.44 | conifer | I already renamed the symlinks manually, but if there is a nicer way to handle it... |
| 21:41.39 | gnarface | just run it |
| 21:41.47 | gnarface | install and run it |
| 21:41.58 | gnarface | should be self-explanatory |
| 21:42.38 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p3ee35461.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:55.50 | conifer | it is, indeed |
| 21:55.59 | conifer | very user friendly :) |
| 21:57.01 | conifer | thank you guys once more for your help and patience! |
| 21:57.21 | conifer | have a nice weekend! |
| 21:57.51 | fsmithred | :) |
| 22:15.09 | *** join/#devuan lagfra (~fra@host-79-49-71-62.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:20.09 | *** join/#devuan luser977 (~resuuser@188.27.66.146) |
| 22:24.33 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p3ee35461.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:31.48 | *** join/#devuan gnu_srs2 (~srs@host-95-192-43-0.mobileonline.telia.com) |
| 22:37.44 | *** join/#devuan harryruhr (~harryruhr@p200300ee8f16514845536e20b88c48cb.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:53.08 | *** join/#devuan gordonDrogon (~gordon@watertower.drogon.net) |
| 23:09.39 | *** join/#devuan sssb54 (~ssssb56@vps-b2931db6.vps.ovh.ca) |
| 23:46.27 | *** join/#devuan yanmaani (~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani) |
| 23:50.18 | *** join/#devuan sssb54 (~ssssb56@vps-b2931db6.vps.ovh.ca) |
| 23:56.23 | *** join/#devuan luser977 (~resuuser@188.27.66.146) |
