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| 02:03.29 | comb_ridge | I got pulseaudio working @ startup by doing this: pulseaudio -D â get it working I think; added in Settings > System > Sessions and Startup |
| 02:06.56 | comb_ridge | That is: in a terminal I typed pulseaudion-D that got it working in that session. I then added it in Setttings>System>Sessiions and Startup. Starts up at each boot now. May be a more elegant (proper) but it works |
| 02:08.46 | golinux | comb_ridge: From the Release Notes: |
| 02:08.51 | golinux | Pulseaudio |
| 02:08.51 | golinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.51 | golinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:08.51 | golinux | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:09.49 | golinux | https://files.devuan.org/devuan_beowulf/Release_notes.txt |
| 02:10.42 | comb_ridge | thanks - guess I could read the release notes better :). |
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| 02:11.28 | yanmaani | How do I get apt to use another mirror? |
| 02:12.47 | golinux | Pick one from the mirror list. https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt |
| 02:14.11 | golinux | Or just try deb.devuan.org again and you may land on another mirror in the round-robin |
| 02:14.34 | yanmaani | golinux: How do I try it again? I've done dist-upgrade a few times and I always get the same mirror. |
| 02:14.52 | yanmaani | is there some command to the effect of "try another random mirror please"? |
| 02:15.02 | golinux | You are using deb.devuan.org in your sources.list? |
| 02:15.24 | golinux | http? |
| 02:16.23 | golinux | Doesn't work with https unless you pick a mirror with that protocol |
| 02:18.32 | gnarface | yanmaani: it should try another mirror literally every single time unless your dns resolver is whack. try this: nslookup deb.devuan.org |
| 02:19.07 | gnarface | yanmaani: (you should see 15 entries) |
| 02:19.45 | yanmaani | golinux: yes |
| 02:20.00 | gnarface | other possibilities include misbehaved caching proxy or ip routing errors |
| 02:20.03 | yanmaani | gnarface: that happens, yes, but I always get the dotsrc.org mirror |
| 02:20.31 | gnarface | yanmaani: if there's no other way around it, use golinux's suggestion and just pick a specific one out of the list and use that instead |
| 02:20.44 | yanmaani | yeah, I guess that works, thanks |
| 02:20.44 | golinux | lets gnarface take it from here . . . |
| 02:21.03 | yanmaani | how come the mirrors sometimes lack packages anyway? |
| 02:21.21 | golinux | Are you sure that they exist? |
| 02:21.41 | golinux | Maybe a specific mirror is updating atm |
| 02:21.43 | gnarface | well in normal circumstances they're updated on intervals, and it kinda goes in a wave, but there are a couple sources.list mistakes that can cause the same symptom |
| 02:22.01 | golinux | afk |
| 02:22.08 | gnarface | someone put up a status page, hmm i forget the url though... |
| 02:22.16 | gnarface | should keep better notes |
| 02:22.30 | fsmithred | panopticon |
| 02:22.55 | fsmithred | https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html |
| 02:23.08 | gnarface | ah, there we go, look here yanmaani^ |
| 02:23.31 | onefang | That slacker Devuan mirror herder that really should be more on top of package mirror stuff put up https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html to keep track of things. Oh wait, that's me. |
| 02:24.11 | fsmithred | gets the whip handle from infra |
| 02:25.15 | gnarface | yea, however it should be noted that symptoms matching the same description can be caused by using /devuan or /debian instead of /merged in your sources.list urls, or in some cases by using "https" on one of the mirrors that was set up to support it for some other projet it was mirroring, but not devuan (quite) |
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| 02:30.11 | yanmaani | gnarface: what I did was I just ran apt-get with torsocks to download, then hit ^C and ran it to update |
| 02:30.14 | yanmaani | not clean but it worked |
| 02:33.41 | gnarface | hmm, you're doing all of this through tor? i wonder if that's related |
| 02:35.42 | onefang | mirrors.dotsrc.org has been a bit erratic lately. Try another mirror. |
| 02:36.49 | onefang | One that has 100% in both of the weekly statistics on that tracker site of mine. |
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| 02:56.52 | yanmaani | gnarface: no, just did it now, and it worked when I did that |
| 02:58.49 | gnarface | well it certainly shouldn't have helped unless something is wrong with your ISP routing |
| 02:59.00 | gnarface | but it wouldn't be the first time for that i guess... |
| 02:59.37 | gnarface | usually at the ISP level, such problems are transient, but if they persist you might be having your civil rights infringed |
| 03:01.22 | gnarface | (though in that case it seems unlikely it has anything to do with devuan specifically, the sporadic nature of the failures suggest it's more likely it would be a casualty of a ham-fisted attempt to block some other unrelated services by ip range) |
| 03:01.41 | gnarface | (or just a intern having a bad day with new cisco routers) |
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| 06:49.14 | e3d3 | I have clipped off text on the bottom line, only in a maximized Emacs window, and because I don't have this issue in other Debian + XFCE distro's, nor when I use Emacs without GUI/in a terminal, I wonder if Devuan has some specific font rendering configuration. |
| 06:51.02 | gnarface | e3d3: is it possible you just don't have the fonts you usually used installed? |
| 06:51.28 | gnarface | e3d3: it could have failed over to something with a different shape |
| 06:52.14 | e3d3 | gnarface, I use the same font, but it also happens with other fonts. |
| 06:52.23 | gnarface | weird |
| 06:52.29 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 06:52.44 | e3d3 | indeed |
| 06:52.56 | rwp | I tried GUI Emacs maximized with i3 window manager and it was okay for me. |
| 06:53.41 | e3d3 | I must add that even in the main editing window (buffer/frame) the bottom text line is clipped of, even more than in the minibuffer. |
| 06:54.38 | rwp | Hmm... I definitely do not see that. But I will confirm odd font problems with GUI Emacs as info pages have a terrible underline through the middle rather than under. |
| 06:54.48 | e3d3 | I never had this issue before, and long time I was a hyper-active distro-hopper |
| 06:55.27 | e3d3 | underlining through the middle sounds even more nasty than my issue |
| 06:56.41 | gnarface | e3d3: is it specific to text windows? gtk windows? or does the desktop wallpaper get clipped a bit too? |
| 06:58.16 | gnarface | does hexchat do the same thing? |
| 06:59.08 | gnarface | you can set the font rendering with "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" but afaik they shouldn't have touched defaults for stuff like that |
| 06:59.31 | gnarface | the changes to the default theme were primarily just color changes and some logos |
| 06:59.37 | e3d3 | gnarface, I didn't notice it with other apps, but many apps have paddings instead of printing text on the bottom of the screen |
| 07:00.08 | gnarface | well i can't produce it with emacs here on ceres in enlightenment, but i guess that's not very helpful info |
| 07:00.09 | e3d3 | e.g. hexchat has a text input with padding around |
| 07:00.31 | gnarface | *reproduce |
| 07:00.43 | e3d3 | gnarface, its still good to know that Emacs works somewhere okay |
| 07:03.15 | e3d3 | maybe another WM will solve this, but the thing is that I got used to XFCE, although I mainly live inside terminal/Emacs |
| 07:03.52 | rwp | e3d3, Example of the underline issue: https://www.proulx.com/tmp/emacs-strike-through-faces.png |
| 07:04.36 | rwp | Strange mode line alignment problem https://www.proulx.com/tmp/emacs-mode-line.png |
| 07:05.09 | e3d3 | rwp, and you couldn't find a solution to this. How long do have this issue ? |
| 07:05.18 | rwp | Strange artifacts left behind at odd times. https://www.proulx.com/tmp/emacs-pixel-artifacts.png |
| 07:05.59 | e3d3 | looks very distracting & annoying to me |
| 07:06.12 | rwp | I mostly run Emacs in a terminal. But on Beowulf Stable I don't expect there to be any changes until the Chimera Testing releases. |
| 07:06.34 | e3d3 | I just checked it but info underlines properly here |
| 07:06.44 | rwp | I haven't tested this on Testing or Unstable with the newer Emacs release there. |
| 07:06.52 | e3d3 | Did you try the Chimera testing release yet |
| 07:07.01 | e3d3 | :) |
| 07:07.03 | rwp | Causality warning. |
| 07:07.45 | e3d3 | can't we upgrade only Emacs to testing ? |
| 07:07.47 | rwp | But most of the time I am running i3 with multiple tiled and stacked terminals, with ssh to remote systems, with tmux running, with emacs running in a terminal. |
| 07:08.03 | rwp | So none of that is critically important to me. |
| 07:08.16 | e3d3 | and you don't have the same issues than ? |
| 07:10.40 | e3d3 | although for me it is easy to avoid the issue by only using Emacs in a terminal, do I prefer to keep my normal habits/workflow, so I hope I can find the case of this all. |
| 07:11.19 | rwp | I hope you find the problem too. But I doubt it is truly a "distro" problem but probably more like an upstream Emacs goofyness. |
| 07:12.57 | e3d3 | I have the issue on Emacs v26.1. If I remember right the same version as on EasyOS, without this issue, but I'm not sure. |
| 07:15.19 | e3d3 | in #emacs I got some nice suggestions to narrow down the issue, but no solutions, or recognizion |
| 07:17.24 | e3d3 | another question; about a longstanding screensaver issue with VLC |
| 07:19.16 | e3d3 | In Debian distro's I have always multimedia issues; alsa volume control is uncontrolable, and VLC keeps activating the screensaver, no matter what config. |
| 07:20.30 | e3d3 | Devuan's pulseaudio has other issues; after boot the sound is always muted. |
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| 07:21.48 | e3d3 | VLC activate the screensaver, and won't let me in the system again, but maybe I need to know some secret key to get in again. |
| 07:21.53 | Xenguy | e3d3: Oh good you're there |
| 07:22.21 | e3d3 | Xenguy, :) |
| 07:22.47 | Xenguy | The last time you had left before I was able to respond... |
| 07:23.09 | e3d3 | I'm sorry. I really had to do other things |
| 07:23.26 | Xenguy | Don't know if this will help, but this is my config for auto maximizing Emacs when it starts up... |
| 07:23.34 | Xenguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.34 | Xenguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.34 | Xenguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:23.34 | Xenguy | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:24.09 | Xenguy | Other than that, I have no clue : -) |
| 07:24.54 | Xenguy | Oh, that's Spacemacs |
| 07:25.22 | Xenguy | Well, that's all I got, if it helps great, otherwise, love that elisp, haha |
| 07:25.43 | e3d3 | I didn't configurate Emacs here yet and don't expect that maximizing differs between doing it manual or at startup, but maybe should test this. |
| 07:26.24 | e3d3 | This is the config I normally use for that: (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(fullscreen . maximized)) |
| 07:26.27 | Xenguy | I've been having fun with Spacemacs, but Emacs is just one amazing beast |
| 07:26.37 | e3d3 | agree |
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| 07:32.03 | e3d3 | Xenguy, I configurated Emacs to start up with maximized frame, but have the same issue with clipped text. Still thanks for the suggestion. Would have been fun if it worked. |
| 07:35.08 | e3d3 | btw I can't use your config line because I don't have/use Spacemacs. |
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| 07:44.11 | rwp | e3d3, If emacs doesn't work for you there is always 'xterm -maximized -e ed somefile'. :-) |
| 07:46.01 | e3d3 | rwp, I don't have the issue when using Emacs in a terminal, but normally also use the Emacs GUI, partly to get some variation in look, because I can't get myself to configure cosmetic things. |
| 07:47.48 | rwp | e3d3, I think you are missing out on all of the humor I was intending with using "ed" since it is the standard text editor. https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html |
| 07:48.52 | e3d3 | rwp, Indeed, I did. Ed the famous talking horse, editor and also my initials :) |
| 07:50.23 | e3d3 | I once made a webpage about Nano, and discovered that it can do much and much more than I ever suspected. Maybe ed is also not so inferieur as it seems. |
| 07:52.39 | rwp | ed is not something I consider inferior. Indeed I am actually rather proficient using it. |
| 07:53.05 | rwp | But it isn't something that people really think of reaching for these days. |
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| 07:58.24 | e3d3 | nice to hear. I make the same mistake as most people by not reading all documentation but often use addons, exotic configs etc instead of learning to use the already provided features, even with Emacs |
| 08:02.33 | e3d3 | there is too much to read about, and I just want things to work as told so I can do my own things instead of endlessly reading and configuring tiny parts of the machine. |
| 08:04.56 | e3d3 | I lost a lot of possibilities since I switched from ms windows to Linux, but still refuse to be involved with microsoft and other pc 'parasites'. Think I have to reduce my expectations again |
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| 09:18.50 | e3d3 | what should I do to build Emacs from source. I've asked on #debian but they advised to ask here. Already installed built-dev and xorg-dev but still get errors when doing: ./configure |
| 09:23.18 | e3d3 | I know that I should activate src-repo, but do I have to do this only for main-repo or also for update- & security-repo ? |
| 09:38.30 | e3d3 | nm, I've installed 1/2 GB stuff and it seems to compile now |
| 09:40.33 | fsmithred | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=38976 |
| 09:41.53 | e3d3 | fsmithred, thanks. If the compilation works, and solves my Emacs issue, I'll use the smart way after re-installing Devuan. |
| 09:43.23 | fsmithred | you could just try it later. You can build packages without installing them. |
| 09:45.24 | e3d3 | it allready compiled and installed, but due to all the chaotic searching, trying etc I forgot my previous version number. Anyway, the issue still remains so I think I really have to leave Devuan here. |
| 09:48.25 | e3d3 | synaptic has v26.1 and I now v27.1, with the same problem. To bad because I really hoped I could use Devuan. Sorry to have bothered you and sincere compliments for your work, sharing and friendly helping. I wish you all good luck. |
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| 10:03.48 | gnarface | there's no way in hell his problem wasn't self-inflicted, right? |
| 10:04.20 | gnarface | anyone else able to reproduce that behavior? |
| 10:04.52 | fsmithred | no emacs here, but I think I'll try |
| 10:05.26 | gnarface | anyway, whatever the issue, it seems unlikely to be specific to emacs or even related |
| 10:05.43 | fsmithred | I'm guessing gtk3 |
| 10:05.53 | gnarface | i feel like it must have been some jacked up gtk theme customization |
| 10:05.56 | fsmithred | what do I need? Just the emacs metapackage? |
| 10:06.00 | gnarface | yea |
| 10:06.34 | fsmithred | and then open it from the menu? I think that's what he did. |
| 10:06.57 | gnarface | it won't matter as long as you open it in graphical mode, which should be the default unless you launch it from a terminal and pass "-nw" |
| 10:07.14 | gnarface | (or had installed the emacs-nox package instead) |
| 10:08.21 | fsmithred | ok, so the opening page is bigger than the window. There is a scroll bar. I can scroll down, but the bottom of the page is blank. |
| 10:08.34 | fsmithred | nothing is off-screen or seems to be missing from the window |
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| 10:08.53 | gnarface | i think his complaint was that the bottom line got partially obscured when the window was maximized |
| 10:08.59 | fsmithred | I think it looks like the screenshot he posted yesterday |
| 10:09.02 | fsmithred | oh yeah |
| 10:09.12 | gnarface | is it doing that to you? |
| 10:09.59 | fsmithred | bottom of the window says "Beginning of buffer" or "End of buffer" depending on cursor position. |
| 10:10.29 | fsmithred | window is maximized and looks correct |
| 10:10.32 | gnarface | yea |
| 10:10.44 | gnarface | so the "End of buffer" status text line is shown in full though, not the bottoms of the letters cut off? |
| 10:10.56 | fsmithred | right |
| 10:11.07 | gnarface | yea, it's fine here in ceres too |
| 10:11.15 | fsmithred | oh shit, his screen wasn't aligned? |
| 10:11.26 | gnarface | i asked, he brushed off the suggestion |
| 10:11.29 | fsmithred | xvidtune to the rescue! |
| 10:11.39 | gnarface | i realize now i didn't get a clear answer to several key questions |
| 10:11.51 | fsmithred | that happens a lot |
| 10:12.36 | gnarface | but i wonder for example if a difference between whether the video card driver can engage the compositor might change how emacs's math about rows&columns works |
| 10:13.36 | fsmithred | yeah, I've seen stuff look different on different computers or with different window managers or even themes |
| 10:14.01 | gnarface | well he was using xfce and claimed or at least strongly inferred it was an otherwise identical config to debian and other distros |
| 10:14.11 | gnarface | but i have to assume he overlooked something |
| 10:14.20 | fsmithred | yeah, probably |
| 10:14.29 | fsmithred | xfce here |
| 10:15.35 | gnarface | i mean, he said it wasn't happening with terminal windows, and when i upsize a terminal window here in enlightenment it doesn't happen either, but i know for a fact it used to - and the fix was something hacked into this version of enlightenment's compositor |
| 10:16.53 | gnarface | otherwise whether the bottom row of text gets cut off or leaves a gap is a simple function of the geometry of the character glyphs and the resolution of the monitor |
| 10:17.22 | gnarface | which also makes me wonder if perhaps this devuan install was using a weird aspect ratio monitor he'd never used before |
| 10:17.45 | gnarface | but he at least strongly inferred his tests were all on the same machine... |
| 10:18.36 | gnarface | anyway |
| 10:18.39 | gnarface | i think he'll be back |
| 10:19.16 | fsmithred | lol, think the problem will follow him? |
| 10:20.17 | gnarface | likely |
| 10:20.46 | gnarface | or he'll see it somewhere else anyway, and realize it had nothing to do with whatever he imagined we had done to the emacs build |
| 10:21.09 | gnarface | can't predict a timeline on this though |
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| 11:55.22 | KREYREEN | I have volume control on a USB keyboard that is not working on devuan.. howddya fix it? x.x |
| 12:01.20 | gnarface | first, open up xev and make sure it can see the keypresses being fired |
| 12:01.33 | KREYREEN | this ain't on xen |
| 12:01.39 | KREYREEN | bare metal! |
| 12:01.58 | gnarface | xev is unrelated to xen |
| 12:02.12 | KREYREEN | xen is unrelated to xen? |
| 12:02.13 | KREYREEN | ehh |
| 12:02.19 | KREYREEN | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:02.23 | gnarface | yes |
| 12:02.25 | gnarface | XEV |
| 12:02.35 | KREYREEN | ah XEV! |
| 12:02.35 | KREYREEN | what's that |
| 12:02.35 | KREYREEN | o.o |
| 12:02.42 | gnarface | event tester |
| 12:02.51 | KREYREEN | still no idea x.x |
| 12:02.54 | gnarface | just open it |
| 12:03.12 | KREYREEN | ah |
| 12:03.19 | gnarface | open it from a terminal, you'll need the stderr/stdout |
| 12:03.24 | KREYREEN | it sees it |
| 12:03.36 | gnarface | ok good, so now you know what the symbol is |
| 12:03.41 | gnarface | symbols* |
| 12:03.57 | KREYREEN | o.o |
| 12:04.08 | gnarface | well now you need to map the keys to volume controls |
| 12:04.13 | gnarface | usually that part is window-manager specific |
| 12:04.17 | gnarface | or even media player specific |
| 12:04.27 | KREYREEN | devuan usually does that automatically though O.o |
| 12:04.37 | gnarface | oh, there might be a package that does it for you then |
| 12:04.38 | KREYREEN | i think it may be a kernel-driver related |
| 12:04.40 | gnarface | you don't recall the name? |
| 12:04.43 | KREYREEN | or that |
| 12:04.48 | gnarface | it's probably a userspace program |
| 12:04.54 | KREYREEN | i don't recall the package it used to work ootb x.x |
| 12:05.04 | gnarface | the fact xev sees it means your kernel should be good |
| 12:05.11 | KREYREEN | tru O.o |
| 12:05.25 | gnarface | i could tell you how to do it in enlightenment :-/ |
| 12:05.29 | KREYREEN | It should work for all keys no matter the keyboard instead of hardcoding the keypresses x.x |
| 12:05.45 | gnarface | well it does for the standard buttons |
| 12:05.51 | gnarface | but volume controls are non-standard |
| 12:06.01 | KREYREEN | hm O.o |
| 12:06.26 | gnarface | could it have been something related to task-laptop or task-desktop? |
| 12:06.39 | KREYREEN | no idea x.x |
| 12:06.44 | gnarface | think about the choices you use for the install usually, what did you do different? |
| 12:06.59 | KREYREEN | nope should have the same options O.o |
| 12:07.13 | gnarface | is it a new keyboard? it could just have been that the previous one you got lucky and someone had already done the work and this one has different keysyms for the volume buttons |
| 12:07.20 | KREYREEN | nope same keyboard same system |
| 12:08.15 | gnarface | could it be that devuan-sanity package or something? i'm sorry i don't know. fsmithred might |
| 12:08.40 | KREYREEN | my best would be some devuan package missing O.o |
| 12:09.13 | fsmithred | catching up... |
| 12:09.23 | KREYREEN | fsmithred, thanku for looking at this! ^-^ |
| 12:10.00 | fsmithred | in xfce settings for keyboard you can configure some things |
| 12:10.08 | fsmithred | I've done volume keys on a thinkpad |
| 12:10.49 | KREYREEN | there is a `keyboard model` in xfce4-keyboard-settings that is set to Generic 105-key PC (intl.) |
| 12:10.54 | fsmithred | Settings, Keyboard, Application Shortcuts |
| 12:11.29 | fsmithred | I need to look at the laptop. brb |
| 12:11.45 | KREYREEN | i think this might be related to software that controls the volume though as FN keys are working O.o |
| 12:13.21 | fsmithred | ok, it's not set up on the OS that's running, but I think I had to link the buttons to amixer commands |
| 12:13.51 | KREYREEN | ah i see O.o |
| 12:14.01 | fsmithred | when you add a keybinding, it asks for the command |
| 12:14.04 | KREYREEN | and the volume keys are registered in xev ? |
| 12:14.14 | KREYREEN | let me check |
| 12:14.18 | fsmithred | then I think the next thing it does is ask you to press the appropriate key |
| 12:15.01 | KREYREEN | adding these keys to a keybind that invokes `notify-send test` shows test notification |
| 12:16.05 | KREYREEN | so i think related to userland being unable to control the volume? |
| 12:17.49 | fsmithred | amixer set Master 10%+ |
| 12:18.20 | KREYREEN | i am switching keyboards on this so ideally i want it to change without the need to set keybinds x.x |
| 12:18.54 | KREYREEN | aldo the amixer is working so i guess good enough o.o |
| 12:19.16 | fsmithred | I don't know another way to do it |
| 12:19.35 | KREYREEN | oke, considering solved then, thanku ^-^ |
| 12:19.36 | fsmithred | I did the same for the decrease-volume key |
| 12:19.44 | fsmithred | amixer set Master 10%- |
| 12:19.47 | KREYREEN | gnarface, and thanks to you too |
| 12:19.52 | KREYREEN | fsmithred, yep set that up already |
| 12:20.02 | fsmithred | and for mute, I set it to -90dB |
| 12:20.22 | fsmithred | no I didn't |
| 12:20.30 | fsmithred | amixer set Master 99%- |
| 12:22.06 | KREYREEN | noted o.o |
| 12:24.40 | n4dir | why not "amixer set Master mute"? Or rather why 99%- |
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| 12:27.17 | fsmithred | n4dir, I don't recall if I tried that. I know I tried a couple different ways. They didn't all work. And didn't work the same on two different model thinkpads |
| 12:28.07 | KREYREEN | n4dir, seems that mute just mutes it in the pavucontrol where it then has to be restored o.o |
| 12:28.16 | KREYREEN | because vol_up doesn't affect it |
| 12:28.18 | n4dir | yeah, anyway. good stuff. Always a bit lame to head over to the terminal to use alsamixer. amixer i can use from the command prompt, once it sunk in. thaks |
| 12:29.24 | n4dir | i used it for a while, then forgot about it again. |
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| 12:34.32 | fsmithred | same problem with mute here - the raise-volume button doesn't un-mute. Have to mouse over to volumeicon-alsa (no pulseaudio here) |
| 12:35.54 | n4dir | easy enought to do it from a command prompt too, though |
| 12:36.19 | n4dir | mute and unmute, somehow a guy needs to spend his days ... |
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| 13:38.21 | fazzah | Hi |
| 13:38.29 | fazzah | how to deal with this problem? |
| 13:38.35 | fazzah | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 13:38.35 | fazzah | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.35 | fazzah | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.35 | fazzah | E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. |
| 13:38.45 | fazzah | cannot install package |
| 13:41.52 | xinomilo | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=26083#p26083 |
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| 14:24.33 | gnarface | php really depends on systemd now? |
| 14:24.37 | gnarface | gross |
| 14:24.52 | gnarface | or did you mix repos accidentally, fazzah? |
| 14:25.16 | fsmithred | it's true. There are at least two threads on the forum about it. |
| 14:25.25 | xinomilo | sury repo does for now |
| 14:25.28 | xinomilo | debian to follow |
| 14:25.36 | xinomilo | iirc |
| 14:28.11 | fsmithred | php7.4-fpm in chimaera/ceres: |Depends: systemd |
| 14:28.11 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.11 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:29.39 | fsmithred | opentmpfiles is in ceres but not chimaera |
| 14:29.59 | fsmithred | afk, bbl |
| 14:30.12 | fazzah | using repo from forum link worked, gnarface |
| 14:30.51 | fazzah | sury indeed depends on systemd... |
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| 15:31.44 | fazzah | Is it possible that php7.4-amqp and php7.4-redis are missing from deb https://pkgs.tdrnetworks.com/apt/devuan beowulf main ? |
| 15:32.01 | fazzah | apt install says unable to locate |
| 15:32.28 | fazzah | but it was ok for other php7.4 extensions |
| 15:33.35 | xinomilo | package name : php-redis |
| 15:33.42 | xinomilo | don't know about the other one |
| 15:34.02 | xinomilo | probably this : php-amqp |
| 15:34.25 | fazzah | those two are correct, but I was told I neeed 7.4 versions |
| 15:35.06 | fazzah | for context I am going through symfony book and I cannot pass requirement check |
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| 16:11.26 | dkarama | What's the root password for devuan? |
| 16:11.50 | dkarama | I think I saw it before can't seem to find it. |
| 16:12.08 | dkarama | For the minimal-live |
| 16:13.08 | gnarface | toor i think? |
| 16:13.11 | fsmithred | toor |
| 16:13.30 | dkarama | That did it, thanks! |
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| 17:14.34 | e3d3 | I found why text on the bottom line of a maximized Emacs window got clipped off; the hidden panel was not completely hidden & covered it, in all Debian XFCE distro's I tried, except EasyOS. |
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| 21:18.05 | SLG | Hi , i am planning to install devuan on a surface laptop go , it worked great with debian is there anything that could make it not work with devuan that i need to be aware off ? |
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| 21:27.32 | nemo | SLG: I guess possibly the version of debian you used... |
| 21:28.14 | rwp | I can only imagine that the specific Linux kernel would either support the hardware, or might not. |
| 21:36.44 | SLG | i used the lastest debian version |
| 21:45.01 | fsmithred | SLG, you can use the desktop-live iso to test it. |
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| 23:18.20 | nemo | "latest debian" is awfully vague |
| 23:19.25 | numzob | that would be "sid"? |
| 23:19.41 | numzob | may have misunderstood the question |
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