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14:35.58KREYREEN0.83 of 10.83GB devuan sources seeded~
14:36.00KREYREEN^-^
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15:19.48nemowow
15:20.00nemohad no idea the devuan specific overlay sources were so large
15:23.37KREYREENhm O.o
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16:22.37user____Has anyone got any info on using uio.ko and uio_pci_generic.ko ? I have trouble using the latter with a multi io PCI card, the uio_ driver claims there is no such device, the device works fine with it's own driver (parport_serial PCI 2S+1P card)
16:22.55user____So any info on bugs/etc concerning uio would be nice. I googled but am asking here too.
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16:33.51gnarfaceslow channel, user____, stick around
16:38.03nemofor a generic question about kernel modules might want to try #debian or ##linux I imagine
16:38.10nemomore active at least
16:38.15nemoodds are devuan didn't touch that
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16:49.48nemouser____: could it possibly be a permissions issue though?
16:49.58nemouser____: I mean, assuming everything else was correctly setup ☺
16:50.50nemoand while I know absolutely nothing about setting up uio pci, hopefully you've looked for clues in dmesg already
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17:20.16nemogetting some 404s in chimaera installing spring
17:20.18nemoW: Failed to fetch http://debian.ipacct.com/debian/pool/main/a/allegro4.4/liballegro4.4_4.4.3.1-1_amd64.deb
17:20.26nemoW: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/s/spring/spring-common_104.0+dfsg-7_all.deb
17:20.29nemohmmm
17:20.30nemoyou know what
17:20.34nemoI probably forgot to update lol
17:20.35nemosorry.
17:20.37nemoone sec
17:21.14nemoyep. that was it. my bad
17:28.02user____it is not a permission issue, the uio_pci_generic module does not export the files it should into sysfs per https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/driver-api/uio-howto.html
17:28.10user____kernel = 4.19* on Beowulf
17:28.29user____I assume bit creep hit the docs and they are way out of sync with reality.
17:35.50user____this is the howto which does not apply https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.12/driver-api/uio-howto.html
17:36.33user____All I have left is to check whether the device is not an old PCI 2.2 version hw which won't work with the uio_pci_generic driver. Bummer
17:42.33user____I've moved on to other ways to do what I need, it is working.
17:47.38user____There are signs online that uio_pci_generic is now a hisoric piece. Last patches are from 2012?
17:48.00user____Either that, or it is perfect <grin>. I've really moved on. Just saying.
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17:57.23fsmithredRefracta-11 Pre-Beta (Chimaera) No-X isos are up: https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/
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18:32.28john009I registered a query a few evening back re: no wifi connection while trying to install devuan with the netinstall.iso. Someone suggested using a wired ethernet connection to facilitate the install, and then sort out the wifi afterwards. Good plan (thank you) and it worked, apart from sorting out the wifi now!
18:32.52john009Connection is random - for only a few minutes at a time (if that) - with frequent disconnects and reconnection (using the connman GUI (CMST)) being much less successful than the initial one (if at all). Error messages are either:
18:33.04john0091. (In a CMST Warning box). We received a DBUS reply message indicating an error.
18:33.04john009<PROTECTED>
18:33.04john009<PROTECTED>
18:33.04john009Or
18:33.18john0092. The agent request failed before a reply was returned.
18:33.39john009The I discovered the 'connmanctl' command, which again only connects intermittently. Entries as follows:
18:33.50john009connmanctl> scan wifi
18:33.50john009Scan completed for wifi
18:33.50john009connmanctl> services
18:33.50john009*A  Jetnet_John          wifi_00166f733dbc_4a65746e65745f4a6f686e_managed_psk
18:33.50john009connmanctl> agent on
18:33.51john009Agent already registered
18:33.53john009connmanctl> connect wifi_00166f733dbc_4a65746e65745f4a6f686e_managed_psk
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18:39.33user____is it possible that you have more than one connection manager running?
18:39.45user____not of the same kind, of course.
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19:13.17metalune[m]which init system is devuan using again?
19:13.41n4dirsysv is default
19:14.14metalune[m]and I can use e.g. runit?
19:14.47n4diryou can choose openrc during installation, which is said to be experimental. I think you can later switch to, say, runit, but don't know much more
19:14.58metalune[m]hum.. ok
19:15.19n4dirwell: i am pretty sure you can use runit, as fsmithred just uploaded a refracta-iso with it (just: a few weeks back)
19:15.27metalune[m]I can't decide wether I want to try out GNU/Guix or Devuan
19:15.44n4dirkind of a package-manager, right?
19:15.54metalune[m]hum?
19:16.03metalune[m]GNU/Guix is a distribution
19:16.06n4diroh, sorry. i didn't read the "or" but Guix on Devuan. My fault
19:16.06metalune[m]and it runs the Libre kernel
19:16.16metalune[m]heh, it's fine
19:17.05n4dirWell, as Devuan is pretty comfortable, that is a quick "try".
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19:17.32n4dirSo i would do it in that order. Have a look at devuan first, then Guix, as soon i have enought time and energy
19:17.56fsmithredif you want libre devuan, use gnuinos
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19:18.06metalune[m]what is guninos?
19:18.19fsmithreddevuan respin with libre kernel
19:18.35metalune[m]well, I don't need a respin to install a different kernel lolz
19:18.44metalune[m]anyway, I'll take a look at it
19:18.44n4dirprobably not that hard to install the libre kernel on devuan itself, is it?
19:18.49metalune[m]g2g
19:19.12fsmithredhere are some beowulf isos: https://www.gnuinos.org/Beowulf/
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19:42.49xinomilothere are linux-libre repos (freesh) for debian/devuan.
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21:51.23Wafficushi there, how do I update my timeclock on Devuan so that its Eastern instead of Central?
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22:01.09DashiePieit automatically set mine correctly
22:01.17DashiePieI'm EST, and it's correct
22:01.26WafficusI have 04:01
22:01.29Wafficusand it should be 05:01 ...
22:01.35DashiePieweird
22:01.54WafficusI used to live in Central a few months ago, so its probably on my end
22:01.59DashiePiemaybe
22:02.53DashiePiewell, I have MATE and all I did was right click on where the time was, preferences, time preferences
22:03.07WafficusI just use AwesomeWM, I don't use a DE
22:03.25DashiePieah, sorry, I've only ever used MATE/Gnome 2, so
22:03.28WafficusI think it might be in an ncurses menu within Devuan
22:03.41Wafficusyeah, DE's are a waste, Openbox with Tint2 is better if you're going that route
22:03.50Wafficusanyway, will figure it out somehow
22:04.07DashiePiedifference of opinion, we'll have to agree to disagree
22:04.08DashiePie:P
22:04.10fsmithredWafficus, dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
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22:04.49Wafficussam@devuandesktop ~ $ dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
22:04.51Wafficus-bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found
22:05.07fsmithredyou need to be root
22:06.04Wafficusyep that worked thanks!
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22:06.08fsmithredyw
22:06.13fsmithredntpdate-debian
22:06.18fsmithredto syncrhonize
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23:00.41metalune[m]I have devuan on a second partition now
23:00.53metalune[m]tomorrow I will have to get rid of all the pre-isntalled crap
23:00.57metalune[m]like ... the DE
23:01.01metalune[m]the DisplayManager
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23:12.08fsmithredmetalune[m], maybe you should have just installed the base system and then added stuff you want
23:12.35fsmithredif you installed a desktop environment from the installer, you will have a hard time removing parts.
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