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| 00:45.31 | tuxd3v | onefang, Signal is some sort of Telegram app? |
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| 00:47.57 | onefang | I've not used Telegram, but I think so. Open source chat, with e2e encryption. |
| 00:49.04 | Xenguy | Telegram is not FOSS, am I wrong? |
| 00:49.24 | Xenguy | I thought there was some proprietary aspect |
| 00:49.26 | tuxd3v | I use Telegram...one time a month =D. Signal should be nice seems that it does the same at least a number of things.. |
| 00:49.51 | tuxd3v | Telegram I believe its open |
| 00:49.56 | onefang | "Notably, all of Telegram's official apps are open source." Says wikipedia. Maybe not the server side. |
| 00:50.07 | Xenguy | hrm |
| 00:51.49 | tuxd3v | maybe not the Server.. what I know about it is that... In Russia, Secret Services put a lot of pressure on the developers for them to give the secret services access to Telegram, because of Islamic state Associate ...terrorism.. |
| 00:52.30 | tuxd3v | The Developers refused and leave Russia, they toughed US was more open, less restrictions.. |
| 00:52.40 | Xenguy | Confirmed that it's all FOSS, except for some proprietary stuff on the server side. |
| 00:53.18 | tuxd3v | They mooved to US, the the NSA/CIA stated to put pressure on them because they wanted to aceess the data... so they discovered that US after all also wants access.. |
| 00:53.42 | golinux | Is this the new offtopic channel? |
| 00:53.43 | tuxd3v | they leave USA |
| 00:53.48 | Xenguy | The US is the last place a project like that should choose to move to |
| 00:54.03 | Xenguy | Yes, #offtopic then |
| 00:54.26 | tuxd3v | the went to Saudi Arabia or Barain or Qatar, and are continuing to develop it from there.. |
| 00:55.05 | tuxd3v | golinux, only a bit of history about Telegram :) |
| 00:55.37 | Xenguy | Well also clarifying the licensing, which is important for me anyway |
| 00:55.47 | tuxd3v | They continue to refuse to give access to Russia, so Russia banned the Service in the country, I don't know about the US.. |
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| 01:09.20 | bbuccianti | we have something like coredumpctl ? |
| 01:10.19 | Xenguy | blasphemy! |
| 01:10.24 | Xenguy | runs away... |
| 01:18.29 | tuxd3v | bbuccianti, are you talking about? |
| 01:18.32 | tuxd3v | systemd-coredump: /usr/bin/coredumpctl |
| 01:18.39 | tuxd3v | run away from it :) |
| 01:19.16 | bbuccianti | great! |
| 01:19.32 | bbuccianti | how do you produce coredumps? |
| 01:19.33 | onefang | bbuccianti is asking about something LIKE that, which does the same thing, but without systemd. |
| 01:20.50 | onefang | A quick search finds minicoredumper. |
| 01:20.51 | tuxd3v | ho, tanks, onefang, |
| 01:21.11 | tuxd3v | bbuccianti, you can configure it via ulimits for example |
| 01:22.17 | tuxd3v | /etc/security/limits.conf |
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| 01:24.34 | tuxd3v | to disable in the shell you just: |
| 01:24.38 | tuxd3v | ulimit -S -c 0 |
| 01:24.49 | tuxd3v | size 0 means no core dump |
| 01:25.11 | tuxd3v | to enable to particular program |
| 01:25.42 | tuxd3v | ulimit -S -c unlimited my_program_will_coredump_name |
| 01:25.53 | tuxd3v | this is a soft limit |
| 01:26.06 | tuxd3v | you can enforce softlimits and also hardlimits |
| 01:26.22 | tuxd3v | usually soft limits are the first ones to activate |
| 01:27.09 | tuxd3v | hardlimits is the max value... above that size, no core dumps! |
| 01:27.40 | tuxd3v | so usually we define softlimits lets say some 30% bellow hardlimit sizes |
| 01:27.58 | tuxd3v | this si also valid for other things, like file descriptors and such |
| 01:28.24 | tuxd3v | when a softlimit is achieve you are being warned via log |
| 01:28.42 | tuxd3v | you can sel a nagios or something else to also alert you |
| 01:29.33 | tuxd3v | the Idea is that soft limits being some 30% lower, can give you time to solve the problem that is happening in that server |
| 01:32.12 | tuxd3v | for example to allow all programs to core dump, you can set a unlimited size |
| 01:32.17 | tuxd3v | * soft core unlimited |
| 01:32.31 | tuxd3v | in //etc/security/limits.conf |
| 01:37.00 | tuxd3v | bbuccianti, see the help of ulimit command |
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| 01:37.05 | tuxd3v | 'ulimit --help' |
| 01:37.24 | tuxd3v | it has a lot of options, that is to execute in the shell |
| 01:42.28 | tuxd3v | bbuccianti, you can also check the proc, about some config for core dumps.. |
| 01:42.35 | tuxd3v | ls -l /proc/sys/kernel/core_{pattern,pipe_limit,uses_pid} |
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| 01:55.00 | tuxd3v | Xenguy, about matrix, I never used it, and I saw already a lot of folks using it even in their own phones |
| 01:55.08 | tuxd3v | does you know the concept? |
| 01:55.24 | tuxd3v | I came across this: https://www.matrix.org/docs/projects/try-matrix-now |
| 01:55.36 | furrywolf | I've never used it, and it's so fucking annoying that we've started telling people in one of my channels to get a proper client if they want to talk. |
| 01:56.27 | furrywolf | it's not just annoying for the person using it, but it's annoying for everyone else in the channel, as it spams crap, can't send actions (/me) correctly, breaks urls, spams entire previous lines any time someone replies to one, and generally fills the channel with crap if anyone actually talks who uses it... |
| 01:58.03 | tuxd3v | furrywolf, you are describing a Spam designed app.. |
| 01:58.12 | tuxd3v | So what is about the Matrix |
| 01:58.37 | golinux | It's what the cool kids are using and it is OT |
| 01:58.40 | tuxd3v | Thye idea I got is that is a way to speak with diferent protocols? cold be this correct? |
| 01:58.59 | bbuccianti | tuxd3v: thanks! ulimit -c unlimited seems to do the trick |
| 01:59.12 | tuxd3v | bbuccianti, you welcome |
| 01:59.15 | golinux | It uses technology that I don't want to deal with |
| 01:59.40 | tuxd3v | golinux, sorry, I just had a lot of buzz abouit people saying they are in the matrix |
| 01:59.51 | tuxd3v | :) |
| 02:00.19 | golinux | It's the latest fad |
| 02:00.26 | golinux | It too will pass |
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| 02:54.32 | tuxd3v | clort, actually 'tegra210-p3450-0000.dts' is already both things... the carrier and the module of jetson nano :) |
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| 03:59.41 | tuxd3v | clort, the first move I made to create a uboot binary for Nvidia Jetson Nano... and the problem was already there :) |
| 04:00.02 | tuxd3v | 1 move = 1 patch =) |
| 04:00.21 | tuxd3v | so I already have a patch for atf, regarding JNano :) |
| 04:00.47 | tuxd3v | yes it build uboot mainline, but I don't own the board so I don't know how good it is.. :S |
| 04:02.45 | tuxd3v | clort, what is the Kernel version you are running in the nano? |
| 04:02.55 | tuxd3v | can you get the config of it? |
| 04:03.09 | tuxd3v | 'modprobe configs' |
| 04:03.40 | tuxd3v | 'zcat /proc/config.gz' |
| 04:03.49 | tuxd3v | paste it here: |
| 04:04.05 | tuxd3v | https://paste.debian.net/ |
| 04:04.06 | tuxd3v | :) |
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| 05:02.38 | clort | sorry i was afk tuxd3v |
| 05:03.09 | clort | 4.9.140 |
| 05:03.27 | tuxd3v | you were at sleep? |
| 05:03.42 | tuxd3v | no problem if you are we talk tomorow :) |
| 05:03.56 | clort | no i am here now |
| 05:04.05 | clort | modprobe configs returns nothing |
| 05:04.12 | tuxd3v | ho you still have a 4.9 on Jetson nano? |
| 05:04.25 | clort | it is what nvidia shipped with their ubuntu image |
| 05:05.00 | tuxd3v | clort, if you were at sleep we talk tomorrow no problem sorry |
| 05:05.25 | clort | no |
| 05:05.31 | clort | http://0x0.st/ihKu.txt there's zcat |
| 05:06.22 | clort | dpaste is taking forever |
| 05:06.50 | tuxd3v | :) |
| 05:06.57 | tuxd3v | I already have it ;) |
| 05:07.15 | tuxd3v | now I will try to build a kernel only to test my backends :) |
| 05:07.33 | clort | excellent, thanks |
| 05:13.53 | tuxd3v | no problem, I am trying with mainline, because I am using the 5.9 branch for patching for another board, so I will go with mainline, I am now copying the source.. |
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| 05:20.40 | clort | i can switch irc to another machine now, so i can even stay with you while hacking uboot on the jetson |
| 05:24.01 | tuxd3v | clort, I need more information about the partition scheme used by Nvidia on this SoC |
| 05:24.19 | tuxd3v | I don't know, were to write yet the bootloader |
| 05:24.19 | clort | i will provide info i can |
| 05:24.57 | tuxd3v | I don't know ere the bootloader starts and where it ends, in the sdcard or emmc |
| 05:25.11 | tuxd3v | does you know about the SoC boot scheme? |
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| 05:25.32 | clort | no emmc sadly |
| 05:25.49 | tuxd3v | you are working from emmc, or sdcard? |
| 05:26.20 | clort | sdcard |
| 05:26.42 | tuxd3v | yea, for sure the bootloader is 1 zone only |
| 05:26.49 | clort | if it has emmc i don't know how to access |
| 05:27.07 | tuxd3v | but it could still have another partition for the environment, which is usually used |
| 05:27.40 | clort | proc/partitions sees mmcblk0 for sd card and sda for first usb drive |
| 05:27.43 | tuxd3v | I mean, the environment I usually don't use it |
| 05:28.23 | tuxd3v | yes the boot loader goes somewere between the partition table, to end were the first partition start |
| 05:28.54 | tuxd3v | this space includes already the bootloader itself zone, plis the Enviroment zone |
| 05:28.56 | clort | there are very many partitions and i do not know why |
| 05:29.41 | tuxd3v | cat you do a: |
| 05:29.43 | clort | http://0x0.st/ihK_.txt sd card partitions |
| 05:29.44 | tuxd3v | 'parted /dev/mmcblk0' |
| 05:30.27 | tuxd3v | then |
| 05:30.35 | tuxd3v | 'print' |
| 05:30.42 | tuxd3v | the 'q' |
| 05:30.44 | tuxd3v | to quit |
| 05:30.55 | clort | http://0x0.st/ihKL.txt |
| 05:31.22 | tuxd3v | wow Nvidia is a bit crazy.. it surpassed the crazinest of Rockchip by a few miles :) |
| 05:31.32 | clort | i made a 32GB os, 32GB osbackup and the rest is data |
| 05:31.49 | clort | yeah idk all that stuff, i just dd the whole card |
| 05:34.02 | tuxd3v | the bootloader has a size of: 632.0 KiB |
| 05:34.27 | tuxd3v | I mean the uboot v2020.10 compiled already with atf v2.4 |
| 05:34.46 | clort | why do they have so many partitions |
| 05:35.17 | tuxd3v | yea, that is what I will need to figure out :) |
| 05:35.41 | clort | do you want the data? |
| 05:35.52 | tuxd3v | but they are the vendor that won the race for sure in the partition numbers :) |
| 05:36.18 | tuxd3v | I will have to digg, theres no other way, you already helped me a lot :) |
| 05:36.48 | tuxd3v | I already saw that, I need to digg to check what partition does, and why |
| 05:37.02 | clort | i could afford maybe 30⬠towards a nano. the 2GB version is like 49⬠from amazon |
| 05:37.07 | clort | a nano for you |
| 05:37.39 | tuxd3v | I didn't wanted to ask that |
| 05:37.56 | clort | would be happy to donate if it helps |
| 05:38.05 | tuxd3v | let me first, digg a bit on the partition types, and why there are many.. |
| 05:38.11 | clort | ok |
| 05:38.21 | tuxd3v | let me also build a kernel for it first, then we can decide :) |
| 05:38.40 | tuxd3v | I already saw that there are some patch's to mainline kernel |
| 05:38.59 | tuxd3v | but I haven't yet look into them, but I will |
| 05:40.57 | tuxd3v | 2 min left to download the full source from my Nas wich holds 5.10-rc6 |
| 05:41.52 | clort | new is good. we have 5.9 for the droid4s now |
| 05:42.07 | tuxd3v | :) |
| 05:44.10 | clort | i think 4 people on the planet would appreciate this enough to send you 30⬠for a 4GB nano :/ |
| 05:46.46 | clort | "zaphod looked... and thought to himself 'this, i have no need for'" |
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| 06:07.13 | clort | oflag=direct avoids dirty buffer constipation when you dd partitions!! |
| 06:08.40 | tuxd3v | I am building a kernel now |
| 06:09.04 | tuxd3v | But I will have to digg deeper to understand the need for so many partitions :) |
| 06:09.25 | clort | i don't even know what they do for gpu drivers |
| 06:10.02 | clort | there's a big nvgpu module |
| 06:10.04 | tuxd3v | yea that is yet another thing that could be related :) |
| 06:10.21 | tuxd3v | I believe its a blob :) |
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| 06:12.25 | clort | one result i can share from my big microSD card benchmarking is that the sandisk mini usb3 uSD card reader significantly outperforms the kingston and transcend in IOPS |
| 06:13.51 | tuxd3v | you have a big sdcard I saw the print |
| 06:14.54 | tuxd3v | I think I will let him continue compilation and tomorrow I will return to it :) |
| 06:15.05 | clort | ok |
| 06:15.19 | tuxd3v | I will have to search for information about the SoC |
| 06:15.20 | clort | it is the time of being horizontal for you? |
| 06:15.45 | tuxd3v | yea, its 6 of the morning :D |
| 06:16.05 | tuxd3v | I got the clock tick, and inspired by doing things and its almost morning |
| 06:16.14 | tuxd3v | you are in Europe? |
| 06:16.31 | clort | yes, it looks dark outside |
| 06:16.41 | tuxd3v | hehehe |
| 06:17.01 | clort | i woke up an hour ago. new day for me! |
| 06:17.34 | tuxd3v | nice, I still need to sleep |
| 06:17.57 | clort | what else have you been werking on? |
| 06:18.04 | tuxd3v | tomorrow we will continue :) |
| 06:18.12 | clort | great |
| 06:18.31 | tuxd3v | compilation of things and network tests |
| 06:18.43 | tuxd3v | but I will crash in the bed now :D |
| 06:18.47 | clort | i will continue uSD card benchmarks until finished |
| 06:18.53 | clort | ok cheers ttyl tuxd3v |
| 06:19.07 | tuxd3v | see you tomorrow :) |
| 06:19.13 | tuxd3v | or in some hours :) |
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| 15:09.55 | Chispito | hola |
| 15:13.30 | clort | hi |
| 15:25.36 | Chispito | se ve que no conversan en la ventana pública... |
| 15:29.32 | clort | maybe |
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| 15:33.47 | Chispito | :/ |
| 15:38.48 | APic | :\ |
| 15:39.47 | Chispito | :D |
| 15:45.41 | Chispito | viva la vida! |
| 15:51.31 | clort | aspic |
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| 16:11.02 | Chispito | zzzzz.... |
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| 16:22.52 | targz | Chispito: hi, this channel is exclusive to support, go to #devuan-es to speak in spanish |
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| 16:27.20 | Chispito | ok |
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| 16:49.24 | Chispito | :/ |
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| 19:23.37 | User_ | Hello |
| 19:23.55 | User_ | I was wondering if it was possible to have persistence on a live iso |
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| 19:33.57 | aitor__ | User: using debian-installer you can get persistence in a very beautiful way |
| 19:33.59 | golinux | User_: Yes! https://www.refracta.org/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt |
| 19:35.14 | aitor__ | read this howto (in spanish): https://blog.desdelinux.net/como-instalar-linux-en-un-usb-en-forma-persistente/ |
| 19:36.38 | aitor__ | I followed the steps above years ago, and worked for me |
| 19:36.56 | aitor__ | tested with crunchbang |
| 19:38.22 | aitor__ | but it should work with any other live system including debian-installer |
| 19:39.21 | aitor__ | golinux: greetings! |
| 19:40.53 | aitor__ | i'm here to escape from #devuan-es :) |
| 19:41.43 | fsmithred | aitor__, that looks like a regular hard disk install. I think User_ was asking about persistence with a live-CD or live-usb |
| 19:42.22 | golinux | sends aitor a hug. |
| 19:42.26 | aitor__ | fsr: it works in a usb stick |
| 19:42.44 | fsmithred | yeah, but it's not a live system then, it's an installed system. |
| 19:43.09 | aitor__ | yes, that's right |
| 19:43.16 | golinux | Good that the folks who know about these things showed up. |
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| 19:43.38 | fsmithred | advantage of the live system is that you can always boot the original read-only system without persistence. Sometime nice to do that for banking or other stuff that needs to be secure. |
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| 19:52.08 | aitor__ | fsmithred: do you know whether python-gtk2 will disappear from debian at least? It's not available in their repos |
| 19:52.19 | aitor__ | neither in bullseye, nor in sid |
| 19:53.50 | fsmithred | no, I don't see it |
| 19:54.50 | fsmithred | only python-gtk is chimaera or ceres (bullseye or sid) is python-gtkspellcheck-doc |
| 19:55.01 | fsmithred | in chimaera... |
| 19:55.22 | User_ | Hi friends, yes i'm looking for an option within Devuan for a persistent live cd like set up on a usb key. |
| 19:55.56 | fsmithred | I always do it with refracta2usb |
| 19:56.29 | fsmithred | I think with the i386 iso you can dd the iso to a usb stick and then add a second partition, but that won't work with the amd64 |
| 19:56.55 | fsmithred | and it's better to do it the other way (with real partitions) |
| 19:56.56 | User_ | Mental Outlaws video sent me here and i donated what i could once i found out this distro supports anti-systemd and an MX-linux like snapshot of the system. |
| 19:57.16 | fsmithred | cool, thanks |
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| 19:58.33 | fsmithred | the other way is to have a fat partition, copy the contents of the iso to that partition and then add syslinux bootloader. |
| 19:58.58 | fsmithred | with refracta2usb you can make a multi-boot usb stick with several live systems on it. |
| 20:00.16 | User_ | nice ! |
| 20:01.30 | User_ | Tht sounds just like mx-linux snapshot and liveusb maker. It's good to know i can maintain my backup workflow with devuan. |
| 20:02.06 | User_ | the devuan interface looks so smooth, like rich belgian chocolate or something. |
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| 20:03.56 | fsmithred | refractasnapshot is like mx-linux snapshot. (or maybe it's the other way around) |
| 20:04.52 | fsmithred | I know antix used a modified version of refractansahphot some years ago, but they they made more changes to it/rewrote it. There might still be a little of my code hanging around in it. |
| 20:06.04 | aitor__ | see you later, guys, i have things to do |
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| 20:07.03 | fsmithred | refracta2usb is not in the repo. You can get it on my sourceforge: https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/ |
| 20:07.11 | fsmithred | aitor__, take care. See you later. |
| 20:07.18 | aitor__ | bye :) |
| 20:08.46 | User_ | Sweet , is the code hosted somewhere ? |
| 20:08.59 | User_ | in non.deb form ? |
| 20:10.02 | fsmithred | oh, probably not. |
| 20:10.15 | fsmithred | the code is an ugly pile of shit. But it works. |
| 20:10.54 | fsmithred | it's just bash scripts, so there's no source to look at. |
| 20:11.06 | fsmithred | nothing to un-compile |
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| 20:46.37 | fsmithred | meandrain ? |
| 20:46.56 | fsmithred | dean? |
| 20:47.44 | clort | tux3d seems to have gone Rip Van Winkle on me |
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| 21:18.22 | User_ | thx, take care. |
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| 21:36.29 | tuxd3v | clort, I am hare, dinner :) |
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| 22:08.11 | tuxd3v | clort, have you ever tried to attach a serial debugger to your jetson nano? |
| 22:08.17 | clort | no |
| 22:08.32 | tuxd3v | does you have a serial adapter? |
| 22:08.54 | clort | i don't think so |
| 22:09.02 | tuxd3v | the madule for jetson nano: |
| 22:09.15 | tuxd3v | https://developer.download.nvidia.com/assets/embedded/secure/jetson/Nano/docs/JetsonNano_DataSheet_DS09366001v1.0.pdf?gbie_OfgK0__V7Xq_EDKzL9hijzERq0FU9NHZvgRfZUH5Ss1IUibfpEIFMLIRLJkyYvDvAA5SOmm3qncGelAJPrt2yy_pQ9MUeRhThWlEMYAIGl9h-wR9UQLoa8vR9pMEqE80mE3YdW_arx2tS-uHTDMoxWih129mb8305gUe8m_Fd6IJQ84cLFtihcpUQ |
| 22:09.35 | tuxd3v | it states a baud rate of 15,2Mbit/s O.o |
| 22:09.45 | tuxd3v | sorry 12.5Mbit/s |
| 22:10.07 | clort | i don't know what to do with it |
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| 22:12.27 | tuxd3v | can you do a 'ls -la' on your /boot? |
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| 22:12.42 | tuxd3v | I believe you should join to #devuan-arm |
| 22:12.52 | tuxd3v | its a related subject :) |
| 22:13.04 | clort | if you can give me access then yes, otherwise pm |
| 22:13.25 | tuxd3v | you need to be registered |
| 22:13.45 | clort | i won't be |
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| 23:44.06 | clort | when did they add /media/username/bunchacrapmountpoints |
| 23:44.11 | clort | and what are they for? |
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