| 00:08.23 | gnarface | alexandros_c_: and, has it booted any other linux distros before? |
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| 01:56.57 | asterismo_l | does grub installs the same on IDE drives on a RAID1? |
| 01:57.26 | asterismo_l | i'm reinstalling with 2 raid1 md devices, one for swap and other for root |
| 01:58.27 | asterismo_l | what is the ligthweight desktop available in devuan? |
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| 02:41.43 | gnarface | asterismo_l: there's a lot of lightweight ones |
| 02:42.22 | gnarface | asterismo_l: i'm not exactly sure about the trick to booting from raid |
| 02:43.49 | gnarface | asterismo_l: there's a way to make the rootfs boot from a raid array but it's not actually advised |
| 02:44.16 | gnarface | asterismo_l: (it's preferable to make a small / and put everything else on the raid) |
| 02:45.27 | gnarface | asterismo_l: the trick might be something like grub goes on the primary ide MBR and the mdadm device? not sure really. people do it but like i said it's not generally advised for the boot partition itself to be on raid |
| 02:47.26 | gnarface | asterismo_l: did you try the installer in expert mode? that might help |
| 02:58.20 | asterismo_l | i'm trying a new raid1 layout, if this does not work, i'll try expert |
| 02:58.58 | asterismo_l | i ended up installing devuan because antix does not support install on a raid |
| 03:00.27 | gnarface | if there's a way to do it from the installer it'll be in expert mode, i'm pretty sure |
| 03:00.53 | gnarface | but i thought i recalled that actually booting from the raid itself required a manual change to the grub config or the mdadm config after install |
| 03:01.01 | asterismo_l | i've been a debian user for 15 years now |
| 03:01.05 | gnarface | i really don't know it's been years since i've even looked into that |
| 03:01.11 | asterismo_l | started with debian 3.1 sarge |
| 03:01.21 | asterismo_l | and now i'm trying to install devuan 3.0 |
| 03:01.23 | asterismo_l | hahah |
| 03:01.46 | gnarface | well the installer shouldn't be very different from the debian one for the same version |
| 03:01.59 | gnarface | er, for the equivalent version i mean |
| 03:02.05 | asterismo_l | it is pretty much the same look |
| 03:02.45 | asterismo_l | now you get a graphic installer in debian |
| 03:03.04 | asterismo_l | i always used the text one, which is the first i've ever used |
| 03:03.33 | asterismo_l | blue background, red progress bars... |
| 03:04.15 | asterismo_l | before antix, i tried freebsd |
| 03:05.31 | asterismo_l | i'm trying to revive an old Dell Precision 530MT, mith dual Intel Xeon prestonia processors, from year 2001 |
| 03:05.47 | asterismo_l | 2GB of ECC rambus |
| 03:06.03 | asterismo_l | you get the point... old muscle |
| 03:06.25 | asterismo_l | the box has a CD-ROM |
| 03:06.48 | asterismo_l | and freebsd guys offer you an ISO which is 730MB in size |
| 03:07.25 | asterismo_l | it seems like a joke, 30MB passed of CD-R capacity... you have to burn it into a DVD |
| 03:07.57 | asterismo_l | but the thing is that i really want to try systemd-free distros |
| 03:08.20 | asterismo_l | Antix was one of them, and it ran vory well actually |
| 03:08.28 | nullraum | if this and the few other projects didn't exist, I'd probably be learning a lot more about bsd by now |
| 03:08.31 | asterismo_l | until i upgraded to a raid |
| 03:08.54 | asterismo_l | i mean, freebsd was really nasty |
| 03:09.01 | nullraum | how so |
| 03:09.24 | asterismo_l | i got wrong screen res, awfull performance with the lesser cpu intensive filesystem UFS |
| 03:09.44 | asterismo_l | i installed Firefox from ports, and it crashed very nasty |
| 03:09.58 | asterismo_l | 15 min and reinstalled antix all the way |
| 03:10.18 | asterismo_l | also tried NetBSD, it didn't even boot |
| 03:11.09 | asterismo_l | I mean, it is a Dell workstation from 2001, AGP graphics card, 2GB of RAM, IDE drives... |
| 03:11.16 | asterismo_l | i mean, come on |
| 03:11.17 | nullraum | hmm |
| 03:11.30 | nullraum | that is unfortunate |
| 03:11.37 | nullraum | I just built a new computer and put devuan on it |
| 03:11.41 | asterismo_l | Intel Xeons that are 130nm lithography, like Pentium 4s |
| 03:11.50 | nullraum | the only issue I've seen is some tearing effects when scrolling |
| 03:11.58 | asterismo_l | this is my first devuan install |
| 03:12.34 | nullraum | this is one of two I currently have |
| 03:12.51 | asterismo_l | i see |
| 03:12.54 | nullraum | the other one is a laptop that...I'm actually not sure what I'm using it for |
| 03:14.28 | asterismo_l | well |
| 03:14.34 | asterismo_l | it did not boot up |
| 03:14.46 | nullraum | devuan didn't? |
| 03:15.10 | asterismo_l | grub error: file '/boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found |
| 03:15.16 | asterismo_l | Entering rescue mode... |
| 03:15.25 | asterismo_l | grub rescue> |
| 03:15.27 | asterismo_l | damn |
| 03:17.20 | asterismo_l | there is nothing in boot directory in the raid |
| 03:17.40 | asterismo_l | ls (md/0)/boot/ |
| 03:17.48 | asterismo_l | thorws an empty line |
| 03:17.55 | nullraum | I would like to offer help, but I know virtually nothing about this topic |
| 03:22.03 | gnarface | asterismo_l: some googling suggests that you need to find the raid array in /dev/mapper/[something] and install grub to that |
| 03:22.39 | gnarface | asterismo_l: assuming the raid got built properly? i guess that's probably incomplete info... |
| 03:26.35 | asterismo_l | the installer only asks me if i want to install grub in one of the two disks of the raid |
| 03:26.44 | asterismo_l | the raid itself is not shown |
| 03:30.45 | gnarface | even in expert mode, with manual partitioning mode? |
| 03:31.09 | gnarface | and if you're using LVM too that might change things |
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| 20:16.20 | asterismo_l | hi |
| 20:16.35 | asterismo_l | i managed to install devuan LXQt |
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| 20:17.13 | asterismo_l | it asked me wifi password during install, now i cannot see any wifi manager, which application is? |
| 20:17.34 | gast0n | wicd? |
| 20:17.53 | asterismo_l | it is not installed |
| 20:18.18 | asterismo_l | is there any wifi support in a fresh installed desktop LXQt? |
| 20:18.41 | asterismo_l | i dont see anything in the tray |
| 20:23.42 | ShorTie | apt install wpasupplicant says ?? |
| 20:24.10 | ShorTie | did you look in /etc/wpasupplicant ?? |
| 20:24.52 | asterismo_l | it is installed |
| 20:25.04 | rennj | cli |
| 20:25.09 | rennj | iwlist scan |
| 20:25.38 | rennj | wpa_passphrase,iwlist,iwconfig people dont like |
| 20:25.40 | ShorTie | any firmware needed ?? |
| 20:25.49 | asterismo_l | no firmware |
| 20:25.52 | asterismo_l | needed |
| 20:27.08 | rennj | wpa_passphrase <ssid> [passphrase] > wpa_supplicant.conf |
| 20:27.28 | rennj | wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c wpa_supplicant.conf -B |
| 20:27.55 | rennj | dhclient wlan0; done |
| 20:28.11 | asterismo_l | wlan0 Interfase doesn't support scanning: Network is down |
| 20:28.41 | rennj | 802.11ac isnt even in the kernel |
| 20:28.43 | asterismo_l | i chose the wrong desktop env |
| 20:28.50 | rennj | my driver still i dont think is in |
| 20:28.57 | rennj | and ive had it like 3 years |
| 20:29.27 | asterismo_l | missing a button to click on my wifi network man |
| 20:31.10 | ShorTie | install wicd |
| 20:31.21 | rennj | wpa-gui you should have |
| 20:33.35 | rennj | wpa_gui/qt bloat probably can do what wicd does |
| 20:34.10 | asterismo_l | none of that |
| 20:35.01 | rennj | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wpa_supplicant |
| 20:35.05 | rennj | why probably |
| 20:35.29 | rennj | or devuan doesnt like wpa_supplicant |
| 20:36.07 | rennj | Optionally, also install the official wpa_supplicant_guiAUR which provides wpa_gui, a graphical front-end for wpa_supplicant |
| 20:38.03 | asterismo_l | i'll grab the damn ethernet cable |
| 20:38.04 | asterismo_l | thanks |
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| 21:26.54 | Garb0 | amdgpu if that matters |
| 21:35.32 | humpelstilzchen[ | Garb0: not an issue on my laptop (intel) |
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