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| 08:29.49 | wikan | hi ;) |
| 08:29.55 | wikan | does anyone know links? |
| 08:30.18 | wikan | i am trying to figure out how to open link in external app |
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| 08:44.08 | tarzeau | i'm using links2 often |
| 08:44.51 | tarzeau | links2 has setup/associations editable |
| 08:45.28 | tarzeau | ah links is also built from links2, i did that many years ago :) |
| 08:46.10 | tarzeau | yeah exactly the same :) (just had to install it to confirm) |
| 09:05.21 | wikan | tarzeau: sorry didn't noticed your answer |
| 09:06.09 | wikan | i know that there is associations setup but I am not sure if it is what I want because I need something similar to lynx's function - DOT |
| 09:06.49 | wikan | so I press DOT and I get external tools menu then lynx sends link to this tool. |
| 09:07.19 | wikan | and of course I mean link in general. Not *.pdf or other extension. |
| 09:07.58 | tarzeau | i don't know, you will have to try to figure out |
| 09:08.14 | wikan | curently I use lynx. I browse for youtube videos and open links in vlc via my link reformat script |
| 09:08.27 | tarzeau | but there's links2 -g, tried that? |
| 09:08.37 | wikan | i don't need -g ;) |
| 09:08.45 | wikan | I use 99% terminal apps |
| 09:09.30 | wikan | links is fine. and I think terminal versions of links and links2 are exactly the same |
| 09:10.26 | tarzeau | maybe elinks is better for you? |
| 09:11.29 | wikan | well I don't know. I just need to send links to external app and keep color scheme ;) |
| 09:12.23 | wikan | elinks is good as I see. Good formating |
| 09:12.41 | wikan | but links has better still ;) |
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| 09:16.14 | wikan | elinks has this option as I want |
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| 21:39.30 | Vall | hello everyone. Thinking of installing Devuan 3 Beowulf on my old Raspberry Pi 1 Model B (ARM7, 512MB) to run an MQTT broker. Of course, text-mode only. Is this feasible or is the RP1B too old/small for this? |
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| 22:02.17 | gnarface | Vall: i can't tell you anything about MQTT brokers, but the RPI1 has ~700MHz on a 1-core CPU and 512MB of on-chip ram that has to be shared with the video device. it will boot Beowulf, but not with hardware floating point or video decoding support. |
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| 22:03.31 | gnarface | Vall: (so as long as you don't need those two things and 700MHz + ~450MB is enough, it should work, but you tell me... i don't know) |
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| 22:04.35 | gnarface | Vall: (and note that it is not ARM7, which is why. it's actually the only ARM6 chip in the wild with a floating point unit apparently, which is why Raspbian is the only thing that supports the floating point unit) |
| 22:06.00 | gnarface | Vall: (from my own testing, it won't play video for shit anymore but it will play audio fine and can drive USB webcams at a reduced framerate as long as you provide an externally powered USB hub) |
| 22:08.38 | gnarface | Vall: oh, and it's probably worth noting that the throughput on the ethernet device caps out at 10 megabit once your on-chip RAM buffer is exhaused |
| 22:09.21 | gnarface | Vall: (that isn't different from Raspbian, but not knowing anything about MQTT i thought it might be relevant) |
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| 22:12.20 | Vall | gnarface: thanks for the great,detailed info |
| 22:13.46 | Vall | two more questions: what would be the appropriate Devuan image to try on the RP1B? |
| 22:14.45 | gnarface | Vall: oh, you don't have a link? hang on i'll dig it up for you... i think it has rpi1 in the file name |
| 22:15.24 | Vall | and: what would be the best least expensive, less power-hungry compact RP or similar to run Devuan right now? |
| 22:16.26 | gnarface | Vall: here, grab devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_armel_rpi1_0.3.img.xz from here, but make sure to read the README: http://arm-files.devuan.org/ |
| 22:17.29 | gnarface | Vall: i honestly don't think there would be anything more compact or less power hungry than a rpi1, except maybe one of those rpi0 things, which is almost the same thing internally but just on a smaller board, and with optional built-in wifi |
| 22:18.11 | Vall | thanks for the image name and url |
| 22:18.24 | gnarface | Vall: if you need something cheaper but with more power, try these darlings of the slashdot daily deals page: http://pine64.org/ |
| 22:19.05 | gnarface | Vall: (shipping times and wait lists can suck though, so availability might also be an unexpected factor in your choice) |
| 22:19.29 | Vall | I've heard of pine64, specially their Rock64 SBC. does it run Devuan well? |
| 22:21.43 | gnarface | it runs anything well headless |
| 22:22.29 | gnarface | driver support for stuff like audio, hdmi, 3d and video decoding support are all hit and miss though still, very bleeding edge hardware |
| 22:22.55 | gnarface | still, very few people have buyers remorse as long as they know that ahead of time |
| 22:23.16 | gnarface | i personally haven't tested Devuan on them but we have images |
| 22:24.13 | Vall | ok, good info |
| 22:24.42 | gnarface | (i have tested Devuan on some of their various AllWinner devices, but with custom images i built myself - the Devuan images are newer) |
| 22:25.04 | Vall | just tried sourcing it locally (Chile) to no avail :-/ |
| 22:25.14 | gnarface | yea you won't find them locally except maybe on ebay |
| 22:25.26 | gnarface | and frankly if you want one you'd best get on the waiting list now |
| 22:26.06 | Vall | what can be found everywhere is the RPi 3 and 4, various models |
| 22:26.41 | Vall | there's even a RPi4 with 8GB available |
| 22:27.43 | gnarface | yea, :( but then you gotta own Broadcom hardware, and they're greasy |
| 22:28.22 | gnarface | it's a bunch of tradeoffs with both practical and existential dilemmas, unfortunately. i'm trapped in it too right now. |
| 22:29.22 | gnarface | these are the only ARM devices i can really claim to have tested with a real linux distro, but the README files in the repos should mention dozens of others probably worth looking into |
| 22:30.21 | gnarface | most of them are other AllWinner devices from various 3rd party vendors i haven't heard of, but you might find more feedback about them in #devuan-arm or #linux-sunxi here on freenode |
| 22:30.39 | gnarface | pine64 has their own IRC network that's worth asking around in too |
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| 22:33.08 | Vall | ok, again great info -- many thanks! |
| 22:33.36 | gnarface | no problem, good luck |
| 22:33.47 | Vall | waves |
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| 23:35.15 | lyubov | /j/buffer 4 |