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05:27.49emdeteit seems packages.roundr.devuan.org is down?
05:28.21rgh[m]Use deb.devuan.org
05:29.11rgh[m]packages.roundr.devuan.org has been down for a few days. If you look through the IRC logs you'll see some chatter about within the last few days.
05:29.29emdeteoups, sorry. & thank you
05:29.51rgh[m]It caught me out as well which is how I know ;-)
05:39.14emdetergh[m]: do you know about it? i didnt find any explanation...
05:39.35rgh[m]Let me have a look.
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05:43.36rgh[m]The timestamp on the message is 18 Aug 2020 15:43:19 which I assume is UTC.
05:43.59rgh[m]s/on the message/on the original message/
05:46.32rrqrgh[m]: packages.roundr.devuan.org is no longer on devuan's infrastructure. use deb.devuan.org
05:47.26rgh[m]Yeah, I have. I was just pointing out to emdete where I found that information.
05:47.42rrqreading more backlog
05:47.53rgh[m];-)
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07:04.16emdetein ceres: libelogind0 Provides: libsystemd0 (= 243.8) while libsystemd0 is Version: 246.2-1 - should i file a bug or will that be fixed anyway soon?
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07:33.56rrqafaik it's on it's way
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10:40.14uiuiui8hello
10:40.59uiuiui8does anyone know if it is possible to install gallery-dl on devuan?
10:43.59debdoghttps://github.com/mikf/gallery-dl#from-source seems possible
10:44.31rrq_beowulf-backports/main
10:47.51uiuiui8Thanks - I tried that but the install failed
10:48.35uiuiui8but...
10:48.55uiuiui8I just got the .deb from here https://packages.debian.org/sid/all/gallery-dl/download
10:49.02uiuiui8and it seems to have installed ok
10:50.04uiuiui8and confirmed working 100% :)
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14:49.34openbsdtai123icewm is quite dirty package... a fix is needed.
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15:07.41Atari-Froschwut?
15:07.53Atari-Froschworks with icewm since 1997 ;-)
15:08.37furrywolfhappy icewm user here too.  there's a bug with it and modern x versions, that's supposedly fixed upstream, but I compiled upstream and it still has it...
15:11.22Wonkaback then, when I wanted transparency and therefore needed a compositor, I switched from fluxbox to xfce...
15:12.30Wonkanow I'm more-or-less longing for xfwm to be reimplemented for Wayland
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15:20.22openbsdtai123xfce takes lot of resource... have you tried the basisc WM based on twm, like ctwm, ... and so on. transparency can be enabled on the top, but it takes 10 pct or 15 pct of cpu at full speed.
15:20.44openbsdtai123wayland will kill X11 unix and unix....
15:21.20openbsdtai123Wayland> linux, driven by industrial and business madness
15:22.38WonkaWayland will at least gain dynamic addition and removal of GPUs, X11 likely won't.
15:22.53FlibberTGibbetjust saw this on installing a 'new' kernel package on beowulf:
15:22.55FlibberTGibbetW: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/i915/skl_huc_2.0.0.bin for module i915
15:23.00FlibberTGibbetand a dozen or so like it.
15:23.02openbsdtai123this is senseless to go wayland.. there is no features at all.
15:23.07Wonkaalso, transparency should not take CPU but rather GPU load
15:23.10openbsdtai123ssh forward wont work.
15:23.10FlibberTGibbetis there a package for the firmware?
15:23.40openbsdtai123Forget with wayland C XC
15:23.47openbsdtai123-X -C
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15:24.32WonkaI don't really use that anyway, if anything it's x11vnc and vncviewer
15:25.07openbsdtai123well, x11 -C -X is not non usefulll... a new shall not impose to remove Unix original features.
15:26.18Wonkaalso, there's still the X11 server for wayland - you can do x11 ssh forwarding from in there
15:26.40openbsdtai123For about one or two years, then it will be exhumed.
15:26.50Wonkausing Wayland as the main display server does not at all mean that X11 is unavailable
15:27.16Wonkayeah. right. because wayland was invented yesterday.
15:27.17openbsdtai123The idea  of Ubuntu, Gnome,... is to completely replace the old X11
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15:30.20openbsdtai123openbsd has a step ahead with own X11.
15:30.37openbsdtai123now xenodm is very mature and realiable.
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15:39.48MinceRhow dependent is that X11 on upstream?
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15:48.28openbsdtai123hello
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