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| 00:17.20 | wikan | waves |
| 00:17.27 | wikan | by ./ |
| 00:17.33 | wikan | bye |
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| 02:56.52 | mcr | Err:1 http://packages.roundr.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main i386 libperl5.28 i386 5.28.1-6 |
| 02:56.52 | mcr | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:56.52 | mcr | Err:2 http://packages.roundr.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main i386 perl i386 5.28.1-6 |
| 02:56.52 | mcr | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.02 | mcr | looks like a broken archive ... |
| 02:57.15 | mcr | I used packages.devuan.org in my apt.sources, so I guess there is a redirect. |
| 02:57.32 | furrywolf | have you done an apt-get update recently? |
| 02:58.46 | mcr | yes. |
| 02:59.15 | mcr | I've been upgrading jessie->ascii->beowulf on an old VM. |
| 02:59.21 | mcr | first two steps went fine. |
| 02:59.42 | mcr | not sure where that AAAA is coming from, since I can't find it with dig. |
| 03:00.03 | mcr | (I'm not finding any AAAA with dig, not sure why) |
| 03:01.35 | golinux | try deb.devuan.org. the address you're using is deprecated |
| 03:02.10 | golinux | Use http not https |
| 03:02.21 | golinux | mcr: ^^^ |
| 03:02.46 | golinux | https://devuan.org/os/packages |
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| 03:09.20 | glguy | Did Sigyn just remove someone for pasting something OK into chat? |
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| 03:11.15 | mcr | golinux, deb.devuan.org? not packages.devuan.org? argh. |
| 03:11.24 | mcr | It feels like the address changes every few months. |
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| 04:11.36 | golinux | mcr: The infrastructure was reorganized. It should be stable for some time now. |
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| 04:16.54 | rrq | the domain "packages.devuan.org" still resolves to "the old" package server which is about to be decomissioned. the domain "deb.devuan.org" refers to all the mirror services, since some few months before yesterday |
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| 05:03.55 | meep_____ | How can I get a recent version of psi-plus on Devuan beowulf? https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/psi-plus |
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| 09:14.09 | se7en- | For some reason, when I try to uninstall the firefox-esr, and add ephinity-browser, the intended replacement |
| 09:14.14 | se7en- | It attempts to uninstall lvm2 |
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| 09:14.41 | se7en- | http://ix.io/2tp0 |
| 09:17.44 | xinomilo | it probably has nothing to do with firefox-esr |
| 09:17.54 | xinomilo | some other packages you removed before that |
| 09:18.51 | xinomilo | these are autoremove packages, leftovers from some previous removals.. |
| 09:19.52 | se7en- | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.55 | se7en- | Reading package lists... Done |
| 09:19.57 | se7en- | Building dependency tree |
| 09:19.59 | se7en- | Reading state information... Done |
| 09:20.01 | se7en- | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 09:20.44 | xinomilo | another way : apt autoremove --purge |
| 09:21.20 | xinomilo | but still, firefox-esr has nothing to do with lvm |
| 09:21.34 | se7en- | same situation |
| 09:21.35 | se7en- | I know |
| 09:21.47 | se7en- | xinomilo: I don't think you know me, but my apt has been wonky for years |
| 09:21.54 | xinomilo | if you dont use lvm2 , let it go |
| 09:22.07 | xinomilo | check sources.list, preferences.d, apt.conf ... |
| 09:22.09 | se7en- | When I upgraded to ASCII from Jessie, I had to scare golinux |
| 09:22.15 | se7en- | I do use lvm2 |
| 09:22.23 | se7en- | Well, I know I use lvm |
| 09:22.31 | se7en- | I am unsure if it has upgraded to lvm3 |
| 09:22.34 | se7en- | Is there lvm3 now? |
| 09:22.43 | xinomilo | nope |
| 09:23.10 | se7en- | My apt.conf is fine |
| 09:23.14 | xinomilo | so, manually : apt install lvm2 |
| 09:23.25 | xinomilo | then apt remove firefox-esr |
| 09:23.29 | xinomilo | do you see the same? |
| 09:24.23 | se7en- | I already tried that |
| 09:24.26 | se7en- | I'll try it again |
| 09:24.36 | se7en- | I'm rerunning apt update rn though |
| 09:24.46 | se7en- | see if that unconks it |
| 09:25.04 | se7en- | Also, look at the rest of those packages |
| 09:25.16 | se7en- | Are those all dependencies of firefox-esr too? |
| 09:25.25 | se7en- | I believe I have the dev packages installed for the image files |
| 09:27.47 | se7en- | I need sleep |
| 09:27.51 | se7en- | I shall return tomorrow |
| 09:28.16 | xinomilo | i need vacation, but i have to work, thanks to grub2 messing up everything.. |
| 09:28.21 | xinomilo | :) |
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| 10:34.35 | amarsh04 | Is there a newer version of firmware-amd-graphics upstream? |
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| 10:35.47 | brocashelm | yes |
| 10:35.58 | brocashelm | are you moving to testing or unstable? |
| 10:36.23 | amarsh04 | I have firmware-amd-graphics 20200619-1 which does not include verde_uvd.bin which is required for running Cape Verde cards with amdgpu from current git head |
| 10:36.30 | amarsh04 | I am running unstable |
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| 10:38.17 | amarsh04 | I have sourced verde_uvd.bin from elsewhere but surprised that the newer firmware-amd-graphics apparently isn't in Debian and hence in Devuan |
| 10:38.45 | amarsh04 | back in a while, will leave irc running |
| 10:39.57 | xinomilo | download from git then |
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| 11:53.19 | amarsh04 | yes, should be at https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git |
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| 14:19.08 | rabdool | hey guys. Can somebody let me know how to make pulseaudio run at startup on Devuan open-rc? |
| 14:20.07 | rabdool | i get this error when entering pulseaudio in the console : E: [pulseaudio] backend-ofono.c: Failed to register as a handsfree audio agent with ofono: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.ofono was not provided by any .service files |
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| 14:21.50 | gnarface | sigh |
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| 14:22.06 | gnarface | if rabdool comes back tell him he just needs to install the ofono package |
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| 14:27.17 | rabdool | yo |
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| 14:27.49 | rabdool | is there a service that needs starting to start pulseaudio on devuan open-rc |
| 14:29.20 | gnarface | facepalm |
| 14:29.38 | gnarface | he stayed around for all of 24 seconds that time |
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| 14:29.49 | Joril | rotfl |
| 14:29.51 | gnarface | gonna have to be faster i guess |
| 14:30.04 | gnarface | the worst part is, that's not even his problem |
| 14:30.47 | mason | gnarface: Does your IRC client have a /pounce function? I feel you're going to need some automation for this. |
| 14:35.01 | gnarface | heh |
| 14:39.09 | MinceR | catIRC |
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| 15:48.52 | wikan | why it is so hard to find unstable sources.list repos |
| 15:48.54 | wikan | :| |
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| 16:00.24 | wikan | third devuan instance is installing now ;) |
| 16:00.30 | wikan | third laptop :) |
| 16:01.47 | gnarface | wikan: this should be the only line you need: deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main |
| 16:02.05 | gnarface | wikan: but you should add this one too in case you want to recompile some stuff later: deb-src http://deb.devuan.org/merged ceres main |
| 16:02.08 | wikan | yea, i found out |
| 16:02.30 | wikan | ib case to recompile i will change distro :P |
| 16:02.41 | wikan | too lazy |
| 16:09.42 | wikan | fck :| unstable dependency hell begun :/ |
| 16:16.05 | wikan | can i force different version as dependency? |
| 16:19.40 | gnarface | not without rebuilding the package |
| 16:20.42 | wikan | nice |
| 16:21.05 | wikan | dependency is =2.7, i have 2.8 or something like this |
| 16:21.25 | wikan | why ppl cant do >=2.7 |
| 16:21.48 | gnarface | there's probably a reason |
| 16:21.56 | gnarface | probably 2.8 breaks something in it and they need to update the code |
| 16:22.11 | wikan | it is python-minimal |
| 16:22.53 | gnarface | that doesn't change my answer |
| 16:23.13 | gnarface | they would have done >= if they thought it was safe |
| 16:23.17 | gnarface | maybe it's an oversight but probably not |
| 16:23.24 | gnarface | the only way to know for sure is to build it yourself and try it |
| 16:23.25 | wikan | what ever but many dependences are very fucked lol :D |
| 16:23.46 | gnarface | yea you might just have to deal with the old versions until they fix it |
| 16:23.59 | wikan | xorg installs gnome's icons for example |
| 16:24.50 | wikan | mosty i use --no-install-recommends to be sure no trashy pkgs will be installed |
| 16:26.57 | wikan | some pkg installs 70MB of fonts :| who... just whi |
| 16:27.08 | wikan | :D |
| 16:27.33 | wikan | i always was thinking fonts are for me not ppl who write software :P |
| 16:27.48 | wikan | btw... what you doing? |
| 16:33.23 | gnarface | it's a secret |
| 16:38.38 | wikan | i should not update to unstable on this machine |
| 16:39.24 | wikan | now i have to find out why xorg hangs entire system :| |
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| 16:50.38 | wikan | i have repo spagetti now |
| 16:50.48 | wikan | some unstable pkgs, some stable |
| 16:50.55 | wikan | damn it is lottery |
| 16:51.39 | wikan | it back to work but... for how long |
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| 17:32.59 | wikan | huelp |
| 17:33.06 | wikan | i cant disable service :| |
| 17:33.15 | wikan | its seys cant find lsb script |
| 17:33.50 | wikan | never mind |
| 17:33.57 | wikan | service name is not sshd but ssh :| |
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| 19:59.04 | meep_____ | Wikan I installed packages without that |
| 19:59.33 | meep_____ | Is there any way to remove all the 'recommended' packages and only install the minimal requirements of the explicitly installed packages? |
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| 20:55.47 | smpl | meep_____; yes, if you want to set it for everything you add the line "APT::Install-Recommends no;" to /etc/apt/apt.conf |
| 20:56.00 | smpl | otherwise a simple apt-get --no-install-recommends will do. |
| 20:56.10 | phogg | or aptitude -R |
| 20:56.18 | phogg | if you're an aptitude fan |
| 20:56.25 | meep_____ | Yes but will that remove stuff that already installed? |
| 20:56.31 | meep_____ | Not explicitly |
| 20:56.44 | smpl | phogg; I'll try to remember that one. |
| 20:56.51 | phogg | meep_____: no, and AFAIK there's no simple way to know that a package was only installed because of a recommends |
| 20:57.03 | phogg | smpl: it has the virtue of being a lot shorter to type |
| 20:57.29 | meep_____ | Really? |
| 20:57.45 | meep_____ | Isn't there a concept of explicit and dependencies? |
| 20:58.08 | smpl | phogg; true, though I probably wont remember, but I'll know that it exist and look it up in the man page if I need it ;) |
| 20:58.36 | phogg | the information exists more or less, but I don't know a way of selecting "the set of packages installed solely because of a recommends". You'd have to do a lot of checking to figure that out. |
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| 22:31.29 | golinux | Woohoo! We now have a "Freedom Hacks" forum at dev1galaxy.org!! |
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| 22:33.07 | Hurgotron | --verbose please |
| 22:34.07 | golinux | Explore workarounds to reverse/repair unwanted upstream decisions |
| 22:36.49 | Hurgotron | sounds great! |
| 22:40.07 | golinux | Yeah, I think it will be a winner |
| 22:41.32 | phogg | so how much of this will be about gnome |
| 22:45.43 | meep_____ | We should discuss this at that new tourist attraction https://i2.wp.com/www.tor.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/mysteryfleshpit.jpg?fit=1280%2C1724&type=vertical&quality=100&ssl=1 |
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