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| 10:07.04 | ShorTie | how can i get a 70-persistent-net.rules file to be made ?? |
| 10:09.07 | ShorTie | i need to know if eudev changes the nic name |
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| 10:26.09 | rrq | try: udevadm test /sys/class/net/eth0 |
| 10:29.23 | ShorTie | ok, see lots of info |
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| 10:30.50 | ShorTie | not sure what now though |
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| 10:34.37 | ShorTie | see, the way it works now i basically take 70-persistent-net.rules and copy/rename it to 70-Smoothwall-custom-NIC.rules |
| 10:35.07 | ShorTie | and all works fine |
| 10:36.28 | ShorTie | now if the nics change at all, it makes a new 70-persistent-net.rules because 70-Smoothwall-custom-NIC.rules is invalid |
| 10:36.52 | ShorTie | on boot |
| 10:38.32 | ShorTie | so i use the presents of 70-persistent-net.rules to kick off a setup so the nics can be redefined |
| 10:47.12 | ShorTie | you don't want eudev switching eth0 and eth1 interfaces without your knowing |
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| 11:04.17 | ShorTie | hmmm, /run/udev/tmp-rules--70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 11:34.24 | tom_work | I can't update to beowulf |
| 11:34.26 | tom_work | https://paste.debian.net/1158558/ |
| 11:34.34 | tom_work | no idea what this error means |
| 11:34.46 | tom_work | libruby2.6 isn't installed |
| 11:35.04 | tom_work | there are no held packages |
| 11:35.14 | ShorTie | 2662 packages can be upgraded, oh my |
| 11:35.26 | xinomilo | you have debian unstable repo enabled? |
| 11:35.35 | tom_work | no |
| 11:35.41 | xinomilo | yes |
| 11:35.46 | ShorTie | thinkin fresh install.... |
| 11:35.47 | xinomilo | Hit:1 http://deb.debian.org/debian unstable InRelease |
| 11:35.54 | tom_work | only beowulf and beowulf security |
| 11:36.37 | tom_work | xinomilo, that's not in my source.lst |
| 11:36.47 | tom_work | where is that coming from? |
| 11:37.29 | tom_work | oh nvm |
| 11:37.30 | tom_work | wtf |
| 11:37.34 | tom_work | how did that get in there |
| 11:38.11 | ShorTie | might be some where else in /etc/apt other then sources.list |
| 11:38.36 | xinomilo | look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ |
| 11:38.57 | ShorTie | i'd like 'grep deb.debian.org /etc/apt' |
| 11:38.59 | tom_work | still the error though |
| 11:39.00 | tom_work | https://paste.debian.net/1158559/ |
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| 11:41.07 | ShorTie | oops, grep deb.debian.org /etc/apt/* |
| 11:42.12 | tom_work | nothing ShorTie |
| 11:42.17 | xinomilo | https://www.devuan.org/os/packages |
| 11:42.29 | xinomilo | fix sources.list, then maybe try `apt upgrade` first |
| 11:42.48 | Unit193 | If you have inxi, then `inxi -r` too. |
| 11:42.53 | tom_work | i did fix it |
| 11:46.06 | tom_work | Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:46.06 | tom_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.06 | tom_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.38 | tom_work | i put it back to ascii to get inxi |
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| 11:50.15 | ShorTie | you good a backup ?? |
| 11:51.51 | tom_work | that bad huh? |
| 11:52.06 | tom_work | Should I just reinstall from scratch? |
| 11:52.17 | tom_work | I originally installed from the devuan ascii beta cd |
| 11:52.19 | ShorTie | i would |
| 11:52.31 | tom_work | alright |
| 11:52.31 | ShorTie | 2662 packages can be upgraded, oh my |
| 11:52.44 | tom_work | yeah that number seems way off |
| 11:52.51 | tom_work | no idea where that's coming from |
| 11:53.12 | tom_work | I originally installed xfce default but moved to i3 because no mouse needed |
| 11:53.24 | tom_work | no way i'm using 2000 packages |
| 11:54.24 | tom_work | I'll just copy my data over somewhere tomorrow then reinstall my whole os and recompile my programs tommarrow |
| 11:54.26 | tom_work | thank you |
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| 13:31.59 | brocashelm | tom_work: are you the same person who wrote the guide on how to use sysvinit+upstart init on ubuntu and mint (xenial)? because i was the one who told you about the without-systemd article |
| 13:46.40 | DonkeyHotei | brocashelm: tom_work != tomg |
| 13:48.43 | brocashelm | ok, just making sure |
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| 19:56.25 | nemo | hmmm |
| 19:56.32 | nemo | polkit suddenly stopped working on my devuan |
| 19:56.38 | nemo | any idea what I might do to reset it? |
| 19:56.51 | nemo | trying to run synaptic-pkgexec |
| 19:56.55 | nemo | polkit-agent-helper-1: error response to PolicyKit daemon: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: No session for cookie |
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| 20:04.20 | nemo | polkit-agent-helper-1: error response to PolicyKit daemon: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1.Error.Failed: No session for cookie |
| 20:04.26 | nemo | oups sorry |
| 20:05.28 | nemo | anyway yeah, can't seem to run synaptic anymore |
| 20:05.40 | nemo | even if I ssh -Y privileged@localhost |
| 20:06.38 | nemo | sudo synaptic doesn't work either anymore |
| 20:06.57 | nemo | xclock works |
| 20:07.02 | nemo | X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication. |
| 20:07.02 | nemo | Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused |
| 20:07.06 | MinceR | maybe gksudo synaptic works better? |
| 20:07.11 | nemo | hm. maybe |
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| 20:26.17 | Tiggez | hi. my grub f#!ed up.. i chrooted into the system and tried to upgrade and reinstall grub.. are we still using the broken version? |
| 20:30.57 | gnarface | the version in beowulf worked last i checked... |
| 20:31.04 | gnarface | what broken version? |
| 20:31.09 | gnarface | did it break recently? |
| 20:32.04 | gnarface | nemo: you can't restart it with the script in /etc/init.d? |
| 20:37.12 | nemo | sorry conference. will totally follow up in a bit |
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| 20:43.49 | Tiggez | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1889509 |
| 20:44.13 | Tiggez | sth with this boothole fix was wrong.. |
| 20:44.23 | gnarface | Tiggez: you can check versions at pkginfo.devuan.org |
| 20:44.47 | Tiggez | this just hit legacy bios users.. |
| 20:46.40 | gnarface | heh, ouch |
| 20:47.02 | gnarface | that's an ubuntu bug though... would that be relevant to beowulf, or chimera? |
| 20:47.26 | fsmithred | there's current discussion about a new grub2 bug on forum |
| 20:47.32 | fsmithred | getting link... |
| 20:47.57 | fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=3714 |
| 20:48.07 | fsmithred | it's marked as Solved |
| 20:50.00 | Tiggez | nice thx .. i will look into it |
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| 21:17.40 | brocashelm | any tips for using lynis? is unattended-upgrades useless for security? |
| 21:23.16 | gnarface | i definitely would advise against it |
| 21:23.42 | gnarface | kinda a practical matter that's dependent on your user base though a bit |
| 21:25.04 | gnarface | in some situations where you have trustworthy (non-hostile) but low experience users and the installs aren't mission critical it might make sense to use |
| 21:25.59 | gnarface | it's best to never do system upgrades in an unplanned fashion |
| 21:32.25 | brocashelm | i do have apparmor, fail2ban, debsecan, and puppet installed |
| 21:33.19 | brocashelm | yeah, better to manually update shit |
| 21:34.20 | brocashelm | i see unattended-upgrades utilizes systemdung strings *vomit* |
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| 22:27.24 | nemo | gnarface: is gksudo still a thing? |
| 22:27.28 | nemo | gnarface: can't seem to find it anymore |
| 22:29.08 | brocashelm | nemo: i have it installed and it works |
| 22:30.39 | gnarface | nemo: i think it got removed from the repos but i recall people using the jessie one successfully in ascii i think... |
| 22:30.43 | nemo | ok |
| 22:30.51 | gnarface | nemo: maybe there's a github repo you can build a current version from |
| 22:30.51 | nemo | brocashelm: how'd you install it? |
| 22:30.53 | nemo | mm |
| 22:31.15 | nemo | do wonder why pkgexec is suddenly choking â¹ |
| 22:31.17 | MinceR | if it isn't in the repo, i doubt it's worth bothering with |
| 22:31.21 | gnarface | nemo: there might also be an alternative or the regular sudo package has it now or something... |
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| 22:37.54 | brocashelm | nemo: never mind. i didn't install it. just checked and i have a file in /usr/local/bin titled gksudo that calls pkexec |
| 22:38.30 | brocashelm | i remember doing that for certain programs to launch correctly if they called gksudo |
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| 22:48.33 | nemo | https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/polkit/polkit/-/issues/17 |
| 22:48.43 | nemo | commit 2 weeks ago |
| 22:48.52 | nemo | maybe I installed a bad polkit |
| 22:49.05 | nemo | off backports or in a recent update |
| 22:49.53 | nemo | hm https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/polkit/polkit/-/merge_requests/59/diffs?commit_id=716a273ce0af467968057f3e107156182bd290b0 |
| 22:49.57 | nemo | those 2 seem very very different |
| 22:51.09 | paynode | are financials on topic here? |
| 22:51.18 | nemo | libpolkit-agent-1-0/stable,now 0.105-25+devuan8 mate-polkit/stable,now 1.20.2-1 |
| 22:51.24 | paynode | the 2018 fin report showed 8k raised that year |
| 22:52.08 | paynode | calyxos/calyx institute based in ny raised 1mil with roughly 2000 members paying 4-600usd each |
| 22:52.17 | nemo | ugh |
| 22:52.36 | nemo | fsmithred: ^^ |
| 22:52.52 | paynode | they essentially give "free" 4g internet to members but they get it subsidized or cheap somehow |
| 22:53.46 | paynode | the person in charge said it was something "only" available in the us, but maybe they didnt check well enough for NL/other countries, maybe in europe? |
| 22:55.45 | paynode | nemo...are you alerting him to your msg or mine? |
| 22:58.46 | paynode | for size comparison, this yearly budget is larger than debian and arch (combined) and a tad smaller than freebsd...other bsds, and other distros I came across other than the big 3 commercial ones have smaller budgets too, from what ive come across... |
| 22:59.12 | paynode | i want this project to succeed/survive and i think money matters in the long run |
| 23:00.21 | golinux | How is this a devuan support issue? |
| 23:00.24 | paynode | the other solution might be to sell devices preinstalled with devuan (and marketed as such, not just tell us what to install and well do it), which i havent seen yet (but do inform if it does) |
| 23:00.34 | paynode | which channel is better? |
| 23:00.40 | paynode | offtopic? |
| 23:00.51 | golinux | Yes. |
| 23:00.54 | paynode | ah |
| 23:00.58 | paynode | but thats not logged |
| 23:01.01 | paynode | or i it |
| 23:01.03 | paynode | is |
| 23:02.29 | fsmithred | debianfork is logged |
| 23:02.54 | fsmithred | nemo, are you confused about the apparent mis-matched versions? |
| 23:03.25 | fsmithred | those two packages come from different source packages. libpolkit-agent is part of policykit, and mate-polkit is part of mate |
| 23:03.40 | nemo | fsmithred: naw. thought a bad version had gotten in recently |
| 23:03.42 | nemo | now not so sure |
| 23:03.48 | nemo | trying to find the package history |
| 23:03.52 | nemo | sorry for highlight |
| 23:03.57 | nemo | highlight first ask questions later |
| 23:04.59 | MinceR | highlight first, ask Christian Slater |
| 23:05.13 | golinux | Where is #debianfork logged? I've never found it. |
| 23:05.25 | golinux | fsmithred: ^^^ |
| 23:05.40 | fsmithred | oh |
| 23:05.43 | nemo | heh |
| 23:05.46 | nemo | legit highlight! |
| 23:05.59 | golinux | It's not an official devuan channel |
| 23:06.06 | fsmithred | sorry, it isn't. I was thinking of devuan-dev and devuan |
| 23:07.01 | fsmithred | it is logged in ~/.config/hexchat (or xchat) if you use one of those |
| 23:07.58 | MinceR | :> |
| 23:08.19 | nemo | many channels are filled with unofficial logs ⺠|
| 23:08.31 | nemo | I can't be bothered |
| 23:15.26 | nemo | rebooting seems to have fixed everything. |
| 23:15.34 | nemo | I have no idea why, but maybe due to switching X versions |
| 23:15.42 | nemo | I hate doing windows solutions but... oh well. |
| 23:16.18 | nemo | (related to that AMDGPU pro thing, had tested unpinned X with 20.30 but when it failed, switched back to old one. figured reinstalling and restarting X should be sufficient, but maybe it effed up polkit) |
| 23:18.45 | paynode | fsmithred that is local logging, but im still not znc'ed...i imagine offtopic is not ideal for logging, but perhaps there can be another channel for such talk? unless you want to take it in offtopic... |
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