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| 12:06.49 | ham5urg | fsmithred, to gpt/partition/format/raid/debootstrap/bios-boot-grub/efi-boot-grub was a success. |
| 12:07.36 | ham5urg | The single point which was a problem to find any information about was |
| 12:07.41 | ham5urg | mount /dev/sda1 /boot/efi |
| 12:07.48 | ham5urg | mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars |
| 12:08.06 | ham5urg | and do a grub-install after that |
| 12:08.46 | ham5urg | everything else was working like a charme |
| 12:09.19 | fsmithred | ham5urg, good to hear |
| 12:09.35 | fsmithred | I've never mounted efivars for a uefi grub-install |
| 12:10.10 | fsmithred | were you chrooting from a non-uefi system? |
| 12:12.41 | ham5urg | Neither I mounted efivars before, but to be honest, I always tried to stay in the bios-mbr-partition scheme as long as possible. bios-GPT is quite easy, Efi is a complicated thing. |
| 12:13.34 | ham5urg | I was chrooting from a efi-only system |
| 12:14.38 | ham5urg | I booted devuan-desktop-live for installation. |
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| 14:25.27 | msiism | Hey, I've just upgraded my system from ASCII to Beowulf and that caused a little bit of breakage here. The two major problems are: I have to boot the 4.9 instead of the 4.19 kernel to get a working X environment and have my wifi card work. |
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| 14:26.53 | gnarface | msiism: is it a nvidia video card? |
| 14:27.00 | msiism | I run X by by executing 'startx' from the TTY. When I boot the 4.19 kernel, I will get my desktop, but the system will be completely frozen after that (can't switch to another TTY) and I'll have to reboot. |
| 14:27.20 | msiism | gnarface: I think so. Let me check. |
| 14:27.39 | gnarface | make sure the driver is loading, dkms could have failed during upgrade |
| 14:28.24 | msiism | gnarface: Yeah, the driver is apparently not leading because booting with the 4.19 kernel will also not give me the higher resolution console graphics. |
| 14:28.59 | gnarface | ok, first make sure non-free is enabled and the nvidia-* packages got installed |
| 14:29.11 | msiism | I think I was using nouveau. |
| 14:29.11 | gnarface | then just try running dkms as root with the 4.19 kernel booted |
| 14:30.51 | msiism | Or, wait, that's my laptop, yeah. I'm actually using the on-board graphics card on this machine: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 10) |
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| 14:31.57 | gnarface | oh if it's an intel one, you might need to make a partial xorg.conf snippet to make the intel driver load instead of the modesetting one |
| 14:32.06 | gnarface | nouveau won't load on an intel video card though |
| 14:32.11 | gnarface | so make sure you don't have both... |
| 14:32.55 | msiism | Okay, I only have the Intel one. |
| 14:33.12 | msiism | Is there a howto for the xorg.conf? |
| 14:33.23 | gnarface | sorta |
| 14:33.27 | gnarface | man intel |
| 14:33.58 | msiism | Okay, I'll try that. :) |
| 14:34.16 | gnarface | well, find your xorg log to make sure it's not already loading |
| 14:34.19 | gnarface | you could have some other problem |
| 14:34.46 | gnarface | look at the xorg log first, but i'm suspecting it will confirm the modesetting driver loads instead, after it tries several dumb framebuffer drivers |
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| 14:36.07 | msiism | Okay, checking⦠|
| 14:40.30 | msiism | gnarface: Looks like the Intel driver is loading just fine: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/62685083 However there are other errors concenring "systemd-logind" that I can't really make sense of. |
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| 14:44.14 | gnarface | hmm |
| 14:48.33 | msiism | I also have no xorg.conf, currently. |
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| 14:51.21 | msiism | Would it be possible to simply downgrade to ASCII again by editing /etc/sources.list and then running apt-get dist-upgrade again? |
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| 15:00.06 | msiism | re-reads Beowulf release notes |
| 15:00.10 | fsmithred | msiism, if you want to downgrade from beowulf to ascii, you need to pin ascii to 1001 priority |
| 15:00.54 | gnarface | msiism: downgrading isn't a supported action in devuan or debian, you might get away with it, but it's not really the ideal solution... also, really... i mean really... instead of a 4-line config? |
| 15:01.05 | fsmithred | elogind is a replacement for systemd-logind |
| 15:01.24 | msiism | fsmithred: Yeah, that's what I thought. |
| 15:01.54 | fsmithred | maybe you need to add libpam-elogind (just a guess - I didn't see the messages) |
| 15:02.04 | gnarface | msiism: the converse could be true fyi, loading the modesetting driver with a custom xorg.conf snippet could work better |
| 15:02.09 | msiism | fsmithred: I just checked. I have it installed. |
| 15:02.29 | gnarface | msiism: it's the default for there to be no xorg.conf and for it to rely on auto-detect |
| 15:03.04 | msiism | gnarface: Yeah, I know. I just wanted to mention I have no xorg.conf and thus no special conifugration set up. |
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| 15:03.26 | gnarface | msiism: lockups could also be a regression though not a misconfiguration... keeping the 4.9 kernel temporarily or trying the backports kernel might be better options |
| 15:04.01 | gnarface | msiism: when it locks up, does an error appear in the xorg log? |
| 15:04.14 | gnarface | msiism: or in the dmesg output, for that matter? |
| 15:04.20 | fsmithred | is it really locked up, or is it that mouse and keybaord are not working? |
| 15:04.46 | msiism | fsmithred: Good question. How would I be able to tell? I mean, I can't switch to another TTY. |
| 15:05.02 | fsmithred | unplug and re-plug inputs and see if that fixes it |
| 15:05.18 | msiism | gnarface: I just realized that the log files are in ~/.local/share/xorg/. Checking that now. |
| 15:05.30 | msiism | fsmithred: Ok, I'll put that on my list. |
| 15:06.48 | fsmithred | also check to see if kernel modules are not getting loaded, like sound or wireless |
| 15:06.52 | gnarface | msiism: ctrl+alt+f2 doesn't switch to a new tty when it locks up? |
| 15:07.03 | msiism | gnarface: Right. |
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| 15:13.49 | msiism | I'll reboot now and see whether re-plugging keyboard and mouse will do anything. |
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| 15:22.47 | msiism | Okay, so, I noticed that when the system "hangs" after running 'startx', the moitoring bar on my desktop is actually working just fine, counting up uptime and displaying CPU usage etc. |
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| 15:23.07 | msiism | However, re-plugging keyboard and mouse did not help. |
| 15:23.25 | fsmithred | ok |
| 15:23.31 | msiism | (Both are on PS2 ports.) |
| 15:23.31 | fsmithred | can you ssh in? |
| 15:23.38 | fsmithred | hm |
| 15:23.46 | fsmithred | I've only done the plug thing with usb |
| 15:24.30 | msiism | fsmithred: You mean ssh into that machine booted with the 4.19 kernel? |
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| 15:24.48 | fsmithred | into the machine that's locked up |
| 15:25.03 | fsmithred | or whatever it is |
| 15:25.51 | msiism | Hm⦠I'd have to set up SSH for that, I guess. |
| 15:26.34 | fsmithred | just trying to find a way to get in to see what's going on |
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| 15:26.53 | fsmithred | can you boot to single? |
| 15:27.18 | msiism | fsmithred: That should work, yes, |
| 15:28.29 | msiism | However, I'm on that machine right now. So, I'll always have to exit IRC when I reboot⦠|
| 15:29.20 | fsmithred | if you get in, check to see if all modules are loading |
| 15:29.22 | msiism | Maybe, let me try uncommenting "needs_root_rights=yes" in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.conf and see if that helps. |
| 15:29.26 | fsmithred | lsmod | grep snd |
| 15:29.43 | fsmithred | shouldn't need that line if elogind is installed |
| 15:29.53 | fsmithred | lsmod |wc -l |
| 15:30.24 | fsmithred | or lsmod | grep something-you-know-should-be-there |
| 15:31.22 | fsmithred | oh, they probably don't all load in single user mode |
| 15:32.19 | fsmithred | anyway, if you discover that some modules are not loading, the fix is to add 'sleep 1' to udev init script |
| 15:32.53 | msiism | Ideed, no sound is heard. |
| 15:33.20 | msiism | Also, I'm getting this error from udev on boot: "specified kvm group unknown" |
| 15:33.44 | fsmithred | everyone gets the kvm message |
| 15:33.52 | fsmithred | https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=483 |
| 15:33.58 | msiism | I see. |
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| 15:34.23 | msiism | Well, the stange thing is that, apparently, also needed sound modules are actually loaded. |
| 15:34.39 | fsmithred | oh, ok. So maybe that's not your problem. |
| 15:35.42 | fsmithred | I need to be afk for a bit |
| 15:36.07 | msiism | Okay, thanks for your help so far. |
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| 16:36.00 | msiism | After a bit of fiddling around, I've found that the following works when I've started X on Beowulf with the 4.19 kernel: I connect my mouse to a USB port before booting, then re-plug it after starting X (either to a USB port or the the USB-to-PS2 adapter in the PS2 mouse port, where it's usually connected). This also makes my PS2 keyboard work. |
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| 16:38.37 | msiism | Now I only need to find out what causes this and get it fixed. As mentioned earlier. Thisdoesn't happen when booting with the 4.9 kernel. |
| 16:42.12 | msiism | Maybe this is best discussed on the forum. |
| 16:51.40 | msiism | prepares a little write-up |
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| 17:29.21 | mtnman | helo |
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| 17:30.34 | mtnman | is there a non-systemd equivalent for the following command? "systemctl set-default graphical.target" |
| 17:32.17 | specing | probably editing inittab and changing some param |
| 17:32.49 | mtnman | specing not sure how to go about what you are suggesting |
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| 23:35.25 | Duvean | Hello |
| 23:35.40 | Duvean | # lxc-create -n debian -t debian |
| 23:36.04 | Duvean | throws: |
| 23:36.06 | Duvean | E: Couldn't find these debs: devuan-keyringFailed to download the rootfs, aborting.Failed to download 'debian base'failed to install debianlxc-create: debian: lxccontainer.c: create_run_template: 1617 Failed to create container from templatelxc-create: debian: tools/lxc_create.c: main: 327 Failed to create container debian |
| 23:37.07 | Duvean | devuan-keyring is obviously installed on the host system... but for some reason lxc-templates is looking for it on the debian repository? |
| 23:43.19 | Duvean | I think we need a devuan version of /usr/share/lxc/templates/lxc-debian for the lxc-templates package |
| 23:48.58 | *** join/#devuan Bjornn (~Bjornn@2604:6000:1503:3ac:551:13a3:2f98:5e99) |
| 23:59.10 | ShorTie | Thinkz, somebody not playing nice |