00:00.05 | kreyren | ahhh it requires systemd even on exherbo ;c |
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03:31.43 | search_social | it requires systemd or it "requires" systemd? |
03:32.15 | search_social | maybe force install and it won't matter |
04:03.37 | gnarface | kreyren: libsystemd0 !== systemd |
04:03.54 | gnarface | kreyren: (libsystemd is still present but vestigial without systemd itself running) |
04:03.54 | kreyren | gnarface, sounds same, smells same |
04:04.12 | gnarface | kreyren: well, it's the runtime libraries, but they're harmless without the payload |
04:04.39 | gnarface | all they're doing is taking up space |
04:04.42 | kreyren | unless there are applications like gamemode that are provided from debian that are utilizing them~ |
04:04.50 | kreyren | gnarface, that's definition of bloatware! :p |
04:05.03 | gnarface | kreyren: well, no, bloatware has advertisements |
04:05.09 | kreyren | true but still |
04:05.17 | kreyren | wait no that would be adware~ |
04:05.53 | gnarface | kreyren: you might be right about gamemode in theory but afaik that shouldn't be possible based on the current way systemd works |
04:05.54 | kreyren | is creating new sandbox for gamemode now |
04:06.04 | gnarface | well, it can't hurt. better safe than sorry |
04:06.24 | kreyren | ye and i've submitted https://github.com/FeralInteractive/gamemode/pull/262 to make it run on exherbo |
04:08.36 | gnarface | kreyren: you're right it's unnecessary bloat, conceded |
04:09.16 | gnarface | kreyren: it's a lot more work to rebuild all the packages to remove libsystemd though, so they just removed the systemd daemon, which should leave the rest of it's dependencies unused |
04:09.58 | gnarface | kreyren: there might be work in progress to get libsystemd out too for future releases, it's just that there's economic constraints, you understand? |
04:10.31 | gnarface | right now this was the only way to make ends meet |
04:12.32 | gnarface | ... but, volunteers welcome! |
04:14.36 | kreyren | gnarface, like i am already making exherbo downstream might as well include devuan too :p |
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10:22.18 | search_social | java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: appguru/Main has been compiled by a more recent version of the Java Runtime (class file version 58.0), this version of the Java Runtime only recognizes class file versions up to 55.0 |
10:22.22 | search_social | god help me |
10:25.12 | search_social | E: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 12d 5h 14min 40s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. |
10:26.25 | onefang | deb.devuan.org is a DNS round robin in front of a bunch of mirrors. Did you catch the IP of the one giving you that message? |
10:26.44 | search_social | i don't know how to do that |
10:27.41 | onefang | Also check the time on that computer is correct. |
10:28.05 | search_social | it's not |
10:31.55 | onefang | Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2020 04:31:46 UTC is the timestamp on http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf/InRelease, that's in the past. |
10:33.21 | onefang | Or rather on pkgmaster, which all the mirrors sync to. It might be different on what ever mirror you got yours from. |
10:33.47 | search_social | okay changing the date fixed it thanks |
10:34.14 | search_social | i don't see an updated java in experimental so i guess i'll be pulling from debian |
10:35.15 | gnarface | it would also be missing in debian |
10:35.24 | onefang | If the date was that far out from that mirror, other things might be wrong. |
10:36.05 | search_social | i can't imagine why this java file would be so new then |
10:36.16 | gnarface | well, experimental is going to have pretty new stuff in it |
10:36.21 | gnarface | but i wouldn't recommend using it |
10:37.10 | search_social | that's how i feel about java :) |
10:37.10 | gnarface | the thing is, java won't be different between debian and devuan, they should be the same packages, unless the devuan mirror is out of date, which is a transient issue that should clear itself up shortly |
10:37.38 | gnarface | sometimes other stuff goes wrong but it is rare |
10:38.58 | gnarface | and also, just fyi, "i guess i'll just pull it from debian then" is also very likely to wreck your system |
10:39.34 | gnarface | in all other cases |
10:39.35 | search_social | :) |
10:40.13 | search_social | looks like package version is same anyway |
10:40.32 | onefang | Most Devuan packages are just the Debian packages, we don't change many of them. |
10:41.17 | onefang | Most Devuan mirrors just redirect you to Debian mirrors for most packages. Unless they ARE a Debian mirror to. |
10:41.43 | onefang | That's why the word "merged" is in the URL. B-) |
10:47.10 | search_social | ah |
10:47.10 | search_social | good call |
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11:24.19 | buZz | search_social: if you want newer packages, maybe look at backports? |
11:24.42 | buZz | basically https://backports.debian.org/ , but devuan has beowulf-backports , etc |
11:25.09 | search_social | i have those as well as experimental idk why the java is so new anyway |
11:25.29 | search_social | i'm trying to just recompile it atm |
11:25.55 | buZz | no clue what you're doing ;) |
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11:30.02 | search_social | > Failed to apply plugin [class 'com.github.jengelman.gradle.plugins.shadow.ShadowBasePlugin'] > This version of Shadow supports Gradle 5.0+ only. Please upgrade. |
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11:40.21 | search_social | you know i must say, this gradle tool is awesome |
11:41.39 | search_social | It has a running timer of the build, displays whta each processor is doing, and when it failed it isolated the error message clearly |
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11:43.12 | buZz | yeah CI tools are fun |
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20:58.07 | kreyren | How is this possible? https://hastebin.com/raw/ogeqexequq |
20:58.12 | kreyren | assuming this system having dGPU |
20:58.22 | kreyren | GPU: AMD ATI Radeon HD 6630M/6650M/6750M/7670M/7690M |
20:58.38 | kreyren | has probably some package missing~ |
21:01.14 | kreyren | installed firmware-amd-graphics and is trying to reboot~ |
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22:07.05 | kreyren[m] | made a major mistake in pinning which broke his whole system so hes rebuilding devan again~ |
22:07.18 | kreyren[m] | also has to so that whole process from SSH on his android because Getty is hugged and xorg is refusing to start |
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