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| 11:39.16 | aitor | hi |
| 11:39.23 | aitor | fsmithred: *what's the equivalent of 'init 1' command for runit?* |
| 11:39.48 | Guest67410 | runit only has runit-init 0 and runit-init 6 (shutdown) |
| 11:41.24 | Guest67410 | if you want to start in single user mode probably you'll need to add a grub entry for that, reading it from /etc/runit/2 (or 1): |
| 11:41.31 | Guest67410 | if grep -q -w -i 'single' /proc/cmdline |
| 11:42.06 | Guest67410 | adding something like this afterwards: |
| 11:42.14 | Guest67410 | then |
| 11:42.31 | Guest67410 | chpst -P /sbin/sulogin -p /dev/tty1 |
| 11:42.38 | Guest67410 | fi |
| 11:43.33 | Guest67410 | mmm... 07:49 in boston |
| 11:44.26 | fsmithred | hi |
| 11:44.30 | Guest67410 | hi |
| 11:44.44 | fsmithred | add that where? |
| 11:45.25 | fsmithred | what I really wanted to do was drop to runlevel 1 just to restart everything wihtout rebooting |
| 11:45.30 | Guest67410 | better said: read it from /proc/cmdline, and adding it to /etc/runit/2 |
| 11:45.49 | fsmithred | ah, ok |
| 11:46.10 | fsmithred | what I was actually trying to accomplish was console autologin in a live session |
| 11:46.17 | Guest67410 | then, you might write your own script for that, i guess |
| 11:46.18 | fsmithred | and I did figure that out |
| 11:46.53 | fsmithred | getty -a user |
| 11:48.33 | Guest67410 | fsmithred: time to eat, be back later |
| 11:49.06 | Guest67410 | have a nice day |
| 11:49.18 | fsmithred | you too, thanks |
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| 18:03.55 | brocashelm | how do i increase speed of pointer in devuan? xinput is not making a difference. something about udev? |
| 18:08.41 | fsmithred | brocashelm, check the forum. Someone posted something about messing with evdev and/or libinput config files |
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| 18:48.20 | brocashelm | fsmithred: i think i got it now. looks like it was xinput with libinput (i restarted xorg to confirm) |
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| 19:57.08 | Devu33 | hello! |
| 20:04.20 | Devu33 | after I install beowulf and I wish to use the cdrom "sr0" as my apt source, apt-get asks me to use apt-cdrom add |
| 20:04.49 | Devu33 | after I do apt-cdrom add, apt-get update complains about the Release file not being signed |
| 20:04.52 | fsmithred | isn't there a line for cdrom in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 20:05.01 | Devu33 | yes sir! |
| 20:06.18 | fsmithred | which iso? |
| 20:06.19 | Devu33 | with the cdrom: mode I get "does not have a release file" |
| 20:06.34 | Devu33 | 20200526 |
| 20:06.55 | fsmithred | desktop? server? arch? |
| 20:07.42 | Devu33 | desktop! |
| 20:08.00 | Devu33 | so when I remove the cdrom: entry and mount the cdrom and use file: instead I get a different message |
| 20:08.16 | fsmithred | so that would be a beta or RC? |
| 20:08.25 | Devu33 | it finds the Release, but then it complains is not signed |
| 20:08.32 | fsmithred | the final isos have June 1 date |
| 20:08.42 | Devu33 | hmm :/ |
| 20:09.03 | Devu33 | I thought 3.0 was final |
| 20:09.22 | fsmithred | yeah, it is |
| 20:09.27 | Devu33 | how can I check on the cdrom fs? |
| 20:09.41 | fsmithred | sha256sum <file> |
| 20:09.50 | fsmithred | tell me the full name of the iso |
| 20:11.16 | Devu33 | [...]42d7 |
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| 20:12.36 | Devu33 | devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_amd64-netinstall.iso |
| 20:12.43 | Devu33 | sorry |
| 20:12.51 | Devu33 | I renamed the file, this not it |
| 20:13.17 | fsmithred | how big is the file? |
| 20:15.20 | Devu33 | 3.6GB |
| 20:15.28 | fsmithred | yeah, that's the desktop iso |
| 20:15.29 | Devu33 | sha256 ends with 42d7 |
| 20:15.52 | Devu33 | I manually checked and indeed the Release does not have a sig |
| 20:16.12 | Devu33 | but during the debian installer process it does not complain about that at all |
| 20:16.15 | Devu33 | devuan sorry |
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| 20:18.28 | Devu33 | E: The repository "file:/media/cdrom beowulf Release" is not signed. |
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| 20:19.07 | fsmithred | did you use a network mirror to install? |
| 20:19.30 | Devu33 | N: Update from such repository cannot be done securely, and is therefore is disabled by default |
| 20:19.45 | Devu33 | did not, im airgapped on that system |
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| 20:20.05 | fsmithred | so apt was ok with it during install but not after? |
| 20:20.10 | fsmithred | that's weird. |
| 20:20.33 | fsmithred | for a no-mirror install, cdrom line should be active in sources.list, and it should not have asked you to run apt-cdrom |
| 20:20.42 | fsmithred | it should just ask you to insert the disk |
| 20:21.53 | Devu33 | if i do [allow_insecure=yes] then it tells me is dangerous |
| 20:23.59 | Devu33 | and then it prints yet another message saying: "Invalid 'Date' entry on release file /var/lib/apt/lists/_media_cdrom_dists_beowulf_Release" |
| 20:25.02 | Devu33 | fsmithred: Is apt-get expectation that the Release file is accompanied by a Release.sig? |
| 20:25.14 | fsmithred | I don't think so |
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| 20:25.25 | fsmithred | I'm looking at a debian iso now, and I don't see that |
| 20:26.30 | Devu33 | apt 1.8.2.1 (amd64) |
| 20:27.06 | fsmithred | same here |
| 20:27.14 | fsmithred | running |
| 20:28.59 | Devu33 | if you are on a vm and you can attach the iso as a cdrom or otherwise mount the cdrom as a loop and try both sources with apt-get update |
| 20:29.13 | Devu33 | I might be missing something, or might have broken something |
| 20:29.24 | fsmithred | I'm looking for a vm to recycle |
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| 20:34.22 | fsmithred | installing... |
| 20:34.24 | Devu33 | is there a way to clean apt index altogether and start fresh |
| 20:34.31 | Devu33 | apt-get clean only seems to clear .deb |
| 20:35.05 | fsmithred | yeah, there are other files that can be deleted |
| 20:35.15 | Devu33 | if I comment out all repositories and leave only the original cdrom: source... it tells me I am being sneaky and trying to add a cdrom using apt-get which is not the way ! |
| 20:35.54 | Devu33 | use apt-cdrom, which simply adds a duplicate line |
| 20:37.01 | fsmithred | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/refractasnapshot-base/src/branch/master/snapshot_exclude.list |
| 20:37.30 | fsmithred | go down to around line 75 for apt files that you can delete. They will regenerate with 'apt update' or similar |
| 20:38.49 | Devu33 | omg, this is so cool |
| 20:38.55 | fsmithred | ? |
| 20:38.59 | Devu33 | I was looking for this, I have to try it |
| 20:39.09 | fsmithred | try what? |
| 20:39.17 | Devu33 | refracta-snapshot |
| 20:39.26 | Devu33 | I did not know of its existence |
| 20:39.35 | fsmithred | yes, it is very cool. (but I'm biased) |
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| 20:41.04 | Devu33 | so, from 75 to 81 |
| 20:41.21 | Devu33 | should I stop using apt-get and use apt instead? |
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| 20:42.14 | brocashelm | apt is fine for basic usage |
| 20:44.36 | Devu33 | does it conflict or complements, neutral upon 'update' with apt-get? |
| 20:45.22 | fsmithred | I don't know |
| 20:45.26 | fsmithred | apt is recomended now |
| 20:45.50 | fsmithred | apt is NOT recommended for use in scripts, because they haven't really decided what it's going to do (i.e. it'll change) |
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| 20:46.29 | tom_ | Are there any IPv6 repo mirrors? |
| 20:46.32 | fsmithred | I'm gradually switching over to using apt, and from what I can see, it's like apt-get |
| 20:46.45 | brocashelm | lol, i'm used to apt-get -f install for broken packages, even though apt check is the same thing |
| 20:46.48 | tom_ | Some of my servers are not provisioned with legacy IPv4 addresses, only IPv6 |
| 20:47.02 | tom_ | W: Failed to fetch http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/beowulf/InRelease Temporary failure resolving 'deb.devuan.org' |
| 20:47.33 | Devu33 | tom_: I have hardcoded that on my /etc/hosts |
| 20:47.56 | tom_ | can you query an AAAA record from the deb.devuan.org round robin? |
| 20:49.26 | tom_ | oh actually |
| 20:49.28 | tom_ | nevermind |
| 20:49.51 | tom_ | Looks like I just had another script setting the wrong resolver in resolv.conf |
| 20:50.11 | Devu33 | networkd or nm? lol |
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| 20:51.04 | brocashelm | networkmanager = gnome's secret way of making everyone hate linux |
| 20:52.43 | fsmithred | Devu33, I'm getting the same error messages as you when I try 'apt update' but that's with the cdrom NOT mounted |
| 20:52.57 | fsmithred | when I figure out how to mount it, I'll try to install something |
| 20:54.22 | brocashelm | i remember when i switched back to upstart init on mint 18.3 and had to manually mount my cd/dvd drive every time i wanted to rip stuff. i remembered it was systemdee that automatically mounted that stuff without extra effort on my part |
| 20:55.04 | fsmithred | well, if this was a real system with a real optical disk, I could mount it in a couple seconds |
| 20:55.26 | fsmithred | but it's fucking qemu, so I have to search (again) how to do this |
| 20:55.28 | Devu33 | echo "/root/beowulf.iso /media/cdrom iso9660 loop 0 0" >> /etc/fstab; mount /media/cdrom |
| 20:56.19 | fsmithred | I don't think I can do that |
| 20:56.30 | fsmithred | the iso is bigger than the ram |
| 20:56.55 | Devu33 | it will losetup bind to a loop0, not load it on ram |
| 20:57.18 | Devu33 | unless you are running systemd, then you better not be using anything but .mount or something |
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| 21:00.11 | fsmithred | yeah, I was thinking that I was running a live iso, but I have virtual disk space for the iso |
| 21:01.06 | Devu33 | cool, just do "losetup /dev/loop0 /my/beowulf.iso" |
| 21:01.17 | Devu33 | unless you using loop0 already |
| 21:01.32 | Devu33 | afaik should not use any memory |
| 21:01.41 | fsmithred | I shouldn't need to use losetup to mount the iso |
| 21:01.59 | fsmithred | don't even need to use -o loop |
| 21:02.48 | fsmithred | exit |
| 21:04.45 | fsmithred | mounted it at /media/cdrom and proceeded to install openssh-server without recommmends |
| 21:04.47 | fsmithred | no error |
| 21:04.58 | fsmithred | apt update gives error |
| 21:05.15 | fsmithred | that actually makes sense - you can't update what's on the read-only media |
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| 21:08.00 | Devu33 | fsmithered, I dont understand the last bit |
| 21:08.11 | Devu33 | cant update what's on the read-only media |
| 21:08.21 | Devu33 | what error did you get? |
| 21:09.47 | fsmithred | can't use apt to add a cdrom, does not have Rlease file, Please use apt-cdrom |
| 21:09.51 | Devu33 | E: The repository 'cdrom://[Devuan GNU/Linux 3.0 (beowulf) amd64 - desktop 20200526] beowulf Release' does not have a Release file.N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.N: See apt-secure(8) manpage for repository creation and user configuration details. |
| 21:10.07 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 21:10.27 | fsmithred | how can you update the repository on the cdrom? |
| 21:10.37 | fsmithred | you can't change what's on it |
| 21:11.32 | Devu33 | but neither it can update on http |
| 21:11.52 | Devu33 | it updates on your own /var/lib/apt/ and /var/cache/apt |
| 21:11.54 | Devu33 | right? |
| 21:12.15 | Devu33 | it updates "from" file: cdrom: or http: |
| 21:12.18 | Devu33 | correct? |
| 21:12.24 | fsmithred | huh? |
| 21:12.44 | fsmithred | if you have http sources, it will go check the sources and update the cache |
| 21:13.04 | Devu33 | and if you have a cdrom: source? |
| 21:13.14 | fsmithred | I guess if you have cdrom source, it checks for the same cd and installs from that |
| 21:13.17 | fsmithred | but can't update it |
| 21:13.36 | Devu33 | ah! |
| 21:13.57 | fsmithred | only way to update that is to make new isos |
| 21:14.06 | Devu33 | but what If you removed cdrom: and enabled http: |
| 21:14.20 | fsmithred | then it should update with the online sources |
| 21:14.22 | Devu33 | then at a later date, without a internet connection you disable http and reenable the cdrom: |
| 21:14.44 | fsmithred | if you do the correct steps, you should be able to change back and forth |
| 21:14.45 | Devu33 | how are you gonna tell the system to refresh its index of available packages from the cd? |
| 21:14.56 | fsmithred | apt-cdrom add |
| 21:15.17 | Devu33 | understood, let me try again |
| 21:20.02 | Devu33 | your were right |
| 21:20.07 | Devu33 | sorry for wasting your time :( |
| 21:20.20 | Devu33 | just had to follow the correct sequence... |
| 21:20.33 | Devu33 | and no "update" |
| 21:20.41 | Devu33 | muscle memory... |
| 21:20.45 | fsmithred | yeah, I learned something |
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| 21:29.16 | plasma41 | o/ |
| 21:30.26 | tom_ | HA |
| 21:30.30 | tom_ | git this |
| 21:30.37 | tom_ | github.com has no AAAA record |
| 21:30.55 | tom_ | *M$ management |
| 21:40.58 | djph | did they ever? |
| 21:41.37 | brocashelm | more projects should move over to something like gitlab if they care about freedom |
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| 23:01.36 | yeti | isnt gitlab flirting with google? |
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| 23:27.33 | golinux | yeti: It already flirted with microsoft |
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| 23:32.51 | yeti | so with both... dirty dancing... :-P |
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| 23:55.58 | golinux | LOL! More like partners in crime . . . |
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