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| 06:02.23 | Hum | I just installed dwww and my lighttpd doesn't give me access to /dwww though I did restart it. Any hints? |
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| 06:12.49 | meep_____ | It's probably missing systemd-accesscontrold |
| 06:20.54 | meep_____ | hum make sure that /dwww is owned by the webserver |
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| 06:58.09 | mastervii | hello |
| 06:59.06 | mastervii | to whom can I ask a few questions? |
| 07:00.03 | ShorTie | just ask, i guess |
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| 07:13.57 | Hum | meep_____: I tried chown -R www-data:www-data dwww/ but it didn't change anything. I run lighttpd-enable-mod for cgi and debian-doc and did a restart |
| 07:14.02 | Hum | for lighttpd |
| 07:14.25 | meep_____ | I don't know |
| 07:14.39 | meep_____ | Hum, if your still having trouble i'd reccomend the quark webserver |
| 07:15.18 | Hum | I like lighttpd. If I want less work I could install apache because it is the default... |
| 07:20.55 | gnarface | mastervii: just ask the questions to nobody specifically, and patiently await an answer. irc etiquette can be weird. |
| 07:21.01 | Hum | Maybe I should have done a _forced_ reload in firefox earlier. At last I added an alias.url in 90-debian-doc.conf for /dwww => /var/www/dwww |
| 07:21.08 | Hum | now it works |
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| 08:38.07 | talbergor | Hi guys! Thanks for a fantastic distro ! :) |
| 08:39.36 | talbergor | one question, how do i intsall multimedia codecs in devuan ? :D |
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| 08:51.22 | mastervii | I need the most simple programs, where can I add them? |
| 08:52.47 | ruenoak | Hey talbergor they way I do it is to add contib and non-free to my sources.list then install the codecs I need from synaptic |
| 09:04.33 | mastervii | ? |
| 09:04.44 | mastervii | debian repository or |
| 09:05.14 | mastervii | ]deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf-security main non-free |
| 09:05.14 | mastervii | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.30 | mastervii | this is my repository |
| 09:17.27 | ruenoak | mastervii i was answering tallbergor question |
| 09:18.15 | ruenoak | mastervii what simple programs are you looking for, you could use synaptic to search for them |
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| 09:40.20 | meep_____ | Sounds painful |
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| 09:42.47 | talbergor | Can i download Deb packages just as normal here or should i be careful? |
| 09:43.08 | djph | careful of ... what? |
| 09:43.41 | talbergor | don't know, just asking? |
| 09:44.48 | djph | long as you're using the repos, there's not much to be overly careful about (barring non-free, because that software is not necessarily "free as in speech" [aka "libre"], which may be something you don't want for reasons) |
| 09:45.55 | talbergor | but i mean, can i download for example discord as a deb package from their website and use? |
| 09:46.07 | djph | should be able to. |
| 09:46.48 | talbergor | oki thanks man, i'm quite new to this as you may understand haha |
| 09:47.05 | talbergor | just curious of what i can't do and can do comparing to normal debian uknow |
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| 09:48.28 | djph | it's basically identical, just sans-systemd |
| 09:49.53 | talbergor | Do you know a terminal command to easily check which init system i have btw? |
| 09:50.43 | djph | in devuan? drfault is, IIRC, sysvinit |
| 09:51.33 | talbergor | alright man thanks =) |
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| 09:53.22 | zatumil | readlink /proc/1/exe |
| 09:53.32 | mastervii | ruenoak, |
| 09:53.54 | mastervii | geany or netbeans webstorm? |
| 10:04.17 | ruenoak | mastervii geany is in the repos not to sure about netbeans or webstorm |
| 10:05.03 | mastervii | no have geany .... |
| 10:06.03 | Hum | the solution was using /dwww/ instead of /dwww |
| 10:06.37 | mastervii | root@devuan:~# apt search geany |
| 10:06.38 | mastervii | Sorting... Done |
| 10:06.38 | mastervii | Full Text Search... Done |
| 10:06.45 | mastervii | this is all |
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| 10:08.16 | mastervii | ruenoak, |
| 10:11.04 | zatumil | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=geany&release=any |
| 10:15.17 | ruenoak | mastervii what version of Devuan are you using |
| 10:15.58 | ruenoak | mastervii Full Text Search... Done |
| 10:16.04 | ruenoak | geany/testing 1.33-1 amd64 |
| 10:16.59 | onefang | Geany is installed on my Devuan ASCII, so it is there. |
| 10:20.53 | mastervii | ok |
| 10:23.31 | mastervii | I want to say that I am very pleased with the speed of the system and I hope it does not change that. it would also be nice to run these programs in repositories |
| 10:24.56 | gnarface | mastervii: your sources.list is probably incomplete, or you forgot to run "apt-get update" |
| 10:25.54 | gnarface | mastervii: here is what your beowulf sources.list should look like: http://paste.debian.net/1148262/ |
| 10:26.34 | gnarface | that's my guess anyway |
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| 10:28.33 | talbergor | how do i enable tlp in devuan ? |
| 10:31.00 | gnarface | talbergor: probably just "apt-get install tlp" |
| 10:31.01 | gnarface | no? |
| 10:31.26 | talbergor | yes but i have to enable the service right? |
| 10:31.31 | talbergor | or im i wrong :P |
| 10:33.25 | mastervii | ruenoak, gnarface |
| 10:33.42 | mastervii | thank you for help |
| 10:33.44 | mastervii | :) |
| 10:34.31 | ruenoak | mastervii :) |
| 10:34.45 | zatumil | update-rc.d tlp disable|enable |
| 10:36.30 | talbergor | okey so thats the general command for disable enable services ? :) |
| 10:36.35 | talbergor | appriciete it |
| 10:37.36 | gnarface | tarzeau: i have no idea whether it is enabled by default. most packaged services do but not all |
| 10:38.09 | gnarface | tarzeau: check the update-rc.d man page, yea. (ignore the part about how it says it's deprecated and shouldn't be run by hand) |
| 10:38.19 | gnarface | tarzeau: ignore that |
| 10:38.30 | gnarface | talbergor: ^ these three lines were supposed to be to you |
| 10:39.15 | talbergor | thank you @gnarface |
| 10:40.11 | gnarface | talbergor: also check any tlp man page if it exists, and /usr/share/doc/tlp if not |
| 10:40.32 | gnarface | talbergor: (if it's not enabled by default, usually instructions are in there) |
| 10:40.50 | gnarface | sometimes it takes more than just running the init script |
| 10:40.52 | mastervii | no have systemctl :D |
| 10:40.54 | mastervii | axaaax |
| 10:41.36 | talbergor | haha :) |
| 10:42.04 | mastervii | yeah |
| 10:44.38 | talbergor | is the default mirrors in europe? |
| 10:45.37 | onefang | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt will tell you where the mirrors are located. |
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| 15:54.45 | golinux | mastervii: https://beta.devuan.org/os/packages |
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| 16:10.25 | glat-agent2 | Your GNU/Linux copy is not genuine. Purchase a license for $99 now. |
| 16:11.41 | mason | glat-agent2: It's not $99, it's $100: https://shop.fsf.org/collection/donations |
| 16:19.59 | glat-agent2 | Your GNU/Linux copy is not genuine. Purchase a license for $99 now. |
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| 16:43.03 | bgstack15 | I wrote a translator script for systemctl which turns the invocation into a real service command. Of course it's gross, but it makes running ipa-client-install (from freeipa) possible without crazy hacks. |
| 16:43.15 | bgstack15 | If anybody wants it, let me know. |
| 16:48.24 | golinux | Didn't Jessie Smith already do something likte that? |
| 16:48.53 | golinux | Abd isn't it in the repos? |
| 16:53.45 | Xelraa | why is netsurf not in the repos? |
| 16:53.58 | Xelraa | what other lightweight graphical browser does it have |
| 16:54.03 | Xelraa | something lighter than chrome or ff |
| 16:54.35 | golinux | bgstack15: https://www.patreon.com/posts/31633933 Converting systemd units to init style shell scripts |
| 16:55.30 | golinux | Xelraa: https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/d1pkgweb-query?search=netsurf&release=any |
| 16:55.59 | onefang | I was just about to head to bed, but NetSurf is in ASCII at least. And Dillo, and a few others. I have them installed. |
| 16:56.27 | onefang | leaves you in golinux's capable hands and nods off. |
| 17:12.43 | bgstack15 | Alas, some tools seem to have systemctl commands embedded in them. It's about the interface to the services, not how they're implemented. |
| 17:13.18 | fsmithred | surf - Simple web browser by suckless community |
| 17:13.39 | fsmithred | Xelraa, ^^^ |
| 17:14.20 | fsmithred | links2 is pretty good. Makes the web look like 1995. |
| 17:16.02 | FrapeX | lol more like BBS |
| 17:18.16 | FrapeX | ooo you are right, in X mode it does look like 1995 :P |
| 17:20.55 | fsmithred | kinda refreshing, isn't it? |
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| 17:23.34 | FrapeX | kinda. |
| 17:25.50 | Xelraa | ok I see thats because I use beouwulf |
| 17:26.05 | fsmithred | yeah, I'm in beowulf |
| 17:26.17 | Xelraa | dillo will do fine |
| 17:26.21 | fsmithred | dillo is another lig... |
| 17:26.25 | fsmithred | yup |
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| 19:15.05 | Hum | Is there a markdown plugin installed in the dokuwiki of friendsofdevuan? I didn't find any hints how to check as user, only as admin. |
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| 22:18.43 | frabbit | hi. i have a ssd here with windows 7 and want to use the rest space to install devuan wit the partions / /boot /home /temp and /var. all partitions except /boot should be encrypted. anyone has a good guide for that? i only found guides where the whole disk is used or only two partions exists ( /boot and / and / will be encrypted). Problem ist, that the installer wants a passphrase for each partition i |
| 22:18.49 | frabbit | choose in "Confidure encrypted volumes" |
| 22:18.53 | frabbit | *Configure |
| 22:18.58 | frabbit | i use the Expert installer |
| 22:21.48 | frabbit | ive done it like this: use the biggest free space, create a 200MB /boot partion as primary and beginning at location. |
| 22:22.25 | frabbit | for the rest of the free space i choosed Automatically partition the free space |
| 22:22.45 | frabbit | as /home /var and /tmp |
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| 22:23.29 | frabbit | after that i need to edit the 200MB partion again as /boot and ext4 (is that a bug?) |
| 22:24.11 | frabbit | then i wrote the changes to disk and configure encrypted volumes |
| 22:24.50 | frabbit | and there i choose all the created partions above (and /) except /boot |
| 22:25.12 | frabbit | but then it asks for a passphrase for every single partition... o_0 |
| 22:25.30 | gnarface | frabbit: did you use LVM? I think this step requires LVM |
| 22:25.50 | frabbit | ive never done this manually in the installer, i always used the wwhole disk before and encrypted it |
| 22:26.09 | frabbit | gnarface: hey. =) no but i thought that its maybe what i need |
| 22:26.31 | frabbit | it can group the partions right? so i can just encrypt the group? |
| 22:26.33 | gnarface | yea, the thing about encrypting the whole disk... i think that might be required though, but i also think that LVM is somehow key to a lot of encrypted disk setups |
| 22:27.09 | gnarface | yea, LVM is about managing partition groups ... sorta. it defines a layer of "volumes" which are sortof just soft-partitions i guess |
| 22:27.42 | frabbit | yeah..i do not really understand what it is (ive red the wikipedia article) |
| 22:27.46 | frabbit | atm |
| 22:27.53 | frabbit | maybe in the future |
| 22:27.54 | gnarface | they can be changed around on the fly without the restrictions normal partitions have in a running system |
| 22:28.18 | gnarface | hmm, did you read the Devuan release notes? they might have mentioned this in there, i forget |
| 22:28.28 | frabbit | so do i need to choose configure the LVM first after i partitioning? |
| 22:28.44 | gnarface | i think first, or at the same time |
| 22:28.53 | gnarface | it should be in that same partitioning step of the installer |
| 22:28.55 | frabbit | gnarface: yeah that dynamicll thing is what i understand |
| 22:29.10 | frabbit | first? oh... |
| 22:29.19 | gnarface | well, it should be clear one way or another |
| 22:29.40 | gnarface | the tool should imply a workflow... |
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| 22:29.57 | gnarface | but i also think i remember hearing that leaving /boot unencrypted is also a requirement unless you're using a libreboot bios |
| 22:30.32 | frabbit | so: 1. "Configure LVM" choose the free space there, 2. Configure encrypted volumes and 3. create partions inthe encrypted volumes? |
| 22:31.00 | frabbit | gnarface: yes /boot must be unencrypted, but i wrote that above |
| 22:31.19 | gnarface | hmmm, yea sounds right, i think. i've never heard of LVM sharing a disk with a windows partition though, so that will be interesting |
| 22:31.24 | frabbit | no libreboot on this laptop |
| 22:31.58 | frabbit | gnarface: you only know windows and not-encrypted gnu/linux on same disk? |
| 22:32.27 | gnarface | frabbit: i haven't really used windows for almost 20 years. LVM didn't even exist back then |
| 22:32.46 | frabbit | gnarface: oh! =D |
| 22:32.50 | frabbit | thats a long time |
| 22:33.15 | gnarface | neither did disk encryption afaik though it might have... it would have been a real chore for a 150MHz chip |
| 22:33.16 | frabbit | i do not really want to use windows.. but i need that for some games... sadly |
| 22:33.42 | gnarface | oh? which games, maybe i can relieve you by telling you you're wrong |
| 22:34.03 | frabbit | =D sure not sorry ;) |
| 22:34.14 | gnarface | a whole raft of them work as good in Linux now, if you're willing to go through a similar amount of effort with Wine or Steam |
| 22:34.42 | frabbit | a lots of adventures that run only under windows (or some with steam or gog under linux but i wont use this services) |
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| 22:34.55 | frabbit | no wine |
| 22:35.10 | frabbit | i messed arround with taht in the past under ubuntu... wasnt fun |
| 22:35.30 | frabbit | i came from console gaming, i just wnat to put in the game and play |
| 22:35.32 | gnarface | it really might be prefrable to dual-booting in some cases now. and you could still access the windows partition through qemu for non-game stuff like your tax software or whatever else they've bound you to themselves with |
| 22:35.34 | frabbit | *want |
| 22:37.09 | gnarface | well, do what you want, but when they brick your windows7 install secretly trying to update it to windows10 behind your back, i'll still be happy to help you free yourself of it for good :) |
| 22:37.33 | gnarface | (at that point the games will also be a lost cause anyway) |
| 22:38.19 | frabbit | so i configure the free space on the disk as lvm but now and i cant choose it for encryption and even not edit it to create partitions... |
| 22:38.59 | frabbit | gnarface: the windows 7 is only for offline gaming ;) |
| 22:39.45 | frabbit | i would never go online with a system that isnt maintained anymore... |
| 22:40.39 | gnarface | well, that's smart. that might save you |
| 22:40.45 | frabbit | i cant even remove the lvm from that free disk space... wtf?! o_0 |
| 22:41.23 | gnarface | hang on |
| 22:41.27 | frabbit | ah under configure lvm again |
| 22:41.30 | frabbit | sorry |
| 22:41.33 | gnarface | when you make it LVM, you can't choose for it to be encrypted at that step? |
| 22:42.23 | frabbit | no |
| 22:42.37 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 22:42.42 | gnarface | https://wiki.debian.org/LVM#Encrypted_LVM |
| 22:42.46 | gnarface | this looks legit, did you see this? |
| 22:43.32 | gnarface | there's actually an ascii-art graph above it of the partition/volume/group topology, maybe that'll clear things up for you |
| 22:44.11 | frabbit | but this is not for the expert-installer is it? |
| 22:45.00 | gnarface | i assume it either is or it applies to both |
| 22:45.15 | gnarface | all the expert mode installer does is ask extra questions |
| 22:47.15 | frabbit | i cant do that here... |
| 22:47.43 | frabbit | ah wait |
| 22:47.47 | frabbit | im stupid |
| 22:47.55 | frabbit | there are two entries |
| 22:48.19 | frabbit | didnt saw that in hte first place sorry <=) |
| 22:48.48 | frabbit | in the partion table is now a new entry on the top |
| 22:48.52 | gnarface | it's ok, it's not a super intuitive interface |
| 22:49.04 | gnarface | you get used to it's quirks eventually |
| 22:49.11 | frabbit | but i cant split that into several partitions... |
| 22:50.16 | gnarface | hmm, should be possible some how |
| 22:50.29 | gnarface | i don't know if you have to create the volume groups first or not |
| 22:50.50 | frabbit | i did |
| 22:51.14 | gnarface | volume groups should group your physical volumes, then you should be able to define your logical volumes as /usr, /home, /var, /tmp whatever |
| 22:52.03 | gnarface | google said you should be able to then define the logical volumes as either encrypted or not, but this example from debian's wiki seems to put the unencrypted volumes outside the LVM table. |
| 22:52.32 | gnarface | it's possible there are feature differences by version though, i am not sure. did you say this was ascii or beowulf? |
| 22:54.17 | frabbit | its ascci |
| 22:54.28 | frabbit | i need to pay arround here a bit... |
| 22:54.31 | frabbit | *play |
| 22:54.57 | gnarface | alright, good luck. it's slow in here right now but keep at it, eventually someone will show up who has done this before |
| 22:55.19 | frabbit | ah |
| 22:56.05 | gnarface | i vaguely recall something about cryptsetup being important, maybe an environment variable you have to set or something, not sure if that's still an issue but i remember talk about it |
| 22:56.25 | frabbit | i need to create a volume group, the the logical volumes, these are the "partitions" (/var /home etc.) the at configure encrypted volumes i can select them to encrypt |
| 22:56.53 | frabbit | hm but i wonder i f it wont be the same then (a passphrase for each partition) |
| 22:57.50 | gnarface | yea, they might each need their own passwords at that point. not sure |
| 22:58.00 | gnarface | seems logical that they would though |
| 22:58.27 | frabbit | oh got erros here now o_0 |
| 22:58.37 | frabbit | geez! why is that so messy... |
| 22:58.48 | gnarface | is that progress? errors like? |
| 22:59.46 | frabbit | i can encrypt a usb devcie with cryptsetup and create a partition tabel and partitions witj parted... why is that here so much different? |
| 23:00.21 | gnarface | because you're encrypting the whole physical device in that case, a case in which it also does not have to be bootable |
| 23:00.23 | frabbit | gnarface: sorry didnt "Failed to create a filesystem," |
| 23:00.53 | frabbit | yeah that bootable makes the difference but whole divece or not? why does that matter? |
| 23:00.59 | frabbit | *device |
| 23:01.53 | gnarface | i don't know enough about the actual encryption code to know why, but it's a fundamental limitation. like the type of limitation based on hard limits of physics and reality, not something marketers can lie their way out of |
| 23:02.31 | gnarface | also linked to why the technology doesn't work on individual files |
| 23:03.09 | gnarface | something about the actual drive identifiers being encrypted before mount time, so it happens below the driver level or something like that? |
| 23:03.32 | gnarface | (probably also directly linked to why the government can't break it) |
| 23:06.35 | frabbit | this installer step should be rewritten... |
| 23:06.56 | gnarface | hah, i'm sure that's been said before |
| 23:06.59 | frabbit | now i cant delete the encrypted partion... |
| 23:07.44 | frabbit | and the lvm neither... |
| 23:07.56 | gnarface | oh, are you using the graphic expert mode or the text/ncurses expert mode? some people have found the text version to be more intuitive |
| 23:08.17 | frabbit | ncurses |
| 23:09.38 | frabbit | i abort and use gparted live for deleting it... man... |
| 23:11.18 | frabbit | can i install devuan on several partitions wich are all unencrypted and then just use cryptsetup LUKS after installation to encrypt them? |
| 23:11.19 | gnarface | how old is that ascii installer? i know it has been patched once or twice |
| 23:11.26 | frabbit | 2.1 |
| 23:11.29 | frabbit | from december |
| 23:11.43 | gnarface | if that's something cryptsetup can do normally, should work just fine in Devuan, yes |
| 23:11.58 | frabbit | .. hm dont know |
| 23:12.28 | frabbit | but i dont think so... as i said normally i encrypt first and then create partions and filesystem |
| 23:12.33 | frabbit | *partitions |
| 23:13.16 | gnarface | my understanding was that you could indeed do this with LUKS and without LVM but in that case the *whole* disk needs to be encrypted. LVM is the only trick afaik to just encrypt *some* of it |
| 23:13.45 | frabbit | ook =( |
| 23:13.59 | gnarface | i could be wrong though, really |
| 23:14.18 | gnarface | you need to talk to someone who uses this on a laptop |
| 23:14.38 | gnarface | and i know they've been here, i just forget who |
| 23:15.46 | gnarface | i vaguely recall some gotcha about having to set up a CRYPTSETUP environment variable in the grub config or something. maybe search the forums about it? |
| 23:16.11 | frabbit | errmm...!! |
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| 23:16.26 | frabbit | i cant delete the encrypted partion with gparted! |
| 23:16.34 | frabbit | holy shit |
| 23:16.42 | frabbit | do i have to dd that now? |
| 23:17.04 | gnarface | hahah, i dunno. mabye lol |
| 23:17.08 | frabbit | ah |
| 23:17.19 | frabbit | you need to choose deactivate first |
| 23:17.33 | frabbit | weird... that thing isnt mounted or something.. o_0 |
| 23:17.43 | frabbit | normally do not use gparted |
| 23:18.00 | gnarface | yea, it would have to be able to decrypt it before mounting it, i understand that much |
| 23:18.11 | frabbit | yes |
| 23:18.19 | gnarface | and while it's mounted... the encryption is of basically no protection |
| 23:18.19 | frabbit | weird gnome stuff |
| 23:18.35 | frabbit | from deleting you mean? yes |
| 23:18.42 | gnarface | from anything really |
| 23:18.51 | frabbit | ok from being read |
| 23:18.56 | gnarface | the primary use case for this technology is computers that are powered off |
| 23:19.14 | frabbit | ah that you mean |
| 23:19.23 | frabbit | sorry i didnt read corrctly |
| 23:19.31 | frabbit | *correctly |
| 23:20.01 | frabbit | i start the installe r again... |
| 23:20.07 | frabbit | *sigh* |
| 23:22.45 | frabbit | we need an entry here: "Guided - use the larest continuous free space and set up encrypted LVM" |
| 23:23.19 | frabbit | i try now wit only one partition |
| 23:23.22 | frabbit | *with |
| 23:25.36 | frabbit | do i need set "Bootable flag: On" for /boot? i saw a video where the guy leave it at off... |
| 23:26.50 | Hurgotron | I usually set it, but I think modern bootloaders don't care. |
| 23:26.54 | frabbit | (probably he forgot for his videotorial but i thin i remember ive done this the first time i set up a suse manually, but that was 5 yeasr ago) |
| 23:27.05 | frabbit | Hurgotron: i see thx =) |
| 23:29.07 | frabbit | ok ive set up no three partiions: /boot, / and swap, the two last are encrypted now.. lets see if asks for the two passphrases at boot... |
| 23:29.58 | frabbit | i use the same passphrase for both partitions |
| 23:33.01 | Hurgotron | frabbit: You should be able change the config later so that stuff not necessary at boot time gets mounted using a keyfile (in /etc) |
| 23:33.28 | Hurgotron | Personally, I use encrypted LVM. |
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| 23:36.29 | gnarface | Hurgotron: he was trying that with the ascii installer and couldn't figure out how to get it to work. i have never tried it, could you lend some insight to the scrollback conversation? |
| 23:37.04 | Hurgotron | oh, there's more scrollback than I thought. hangon |
| 23:41.08 | frabbit | someone in #replicant told me: "you can create a partition for /boot and another for the encrypted volume, that way you only need one password, inside the encrypted volume create a lvm devices with all the partitions you want. I used to have my laptop with debian that way" |
| 23:42.32 | Hurgotron | That sounds quit right. |
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| 23:45.23 | Hurgotron | You use the encrypted volume as a physical volume for LVM. You create a volume group, and inside that volume group logical volumes. These get used like partitions. / and swap and maybe more. |
| 23:46.19 | frabbit | Hurgotron: yeah sounds logic to me... ive tried to lvm first and then encryption (tired, sad frabbit here) |
| 23:46.29 | gnarface | sorry, frabbit |
| 23:46.32 | frabbit | will try this now |
| 23:46.37 | frabbit | Gnhm? why? |
| 23:46.43 | frabbit | gnarface: |
| 23:47.01 | frabbit | gnarface: why? |
| 23:47.23 | Hurgotron | I should write that up some day, if only for myself. In my case, I have RAID-1 on the lowest level... so LVM on top of cryptfs on top of RAID-1. |
| 23:49.50 | Hurgotron | I was migrating from Ubuntu a few days ago. Somehow I got confused and managed to overwrite LUKS header of my big fat data array with a partition table. Total data loss (OK I had backups). |
| 23:50.23 | Hurgotron | I should have had a backup of the LUKS header, though :P |
| 23:51.05 | fsmithred | where is that? |
| 23:51.07 | frabbit | Hurgotron: oh! =o |
| 23:51.38 | fsmithred | I have already had to find and use the backup files for lvm |
| 23:51.55 | fsmithred | not fun, but nice that it's possible |
| 23:53.33 | Hurgotron | backup files for lvm I did have... |
| 23:54.01 | Hurgotron | fsmithred: man cryptsetup, luksHeaderBackup |
| 23:54.10 | gnarface | frabbit: i led you down the wrong path at first, sorry |
| 23:54.53 | frabbit | gnarface: you led me nowhere wrong. i didint know and you didnt know for sure. |
| 23:55.29 | frabbit | gnarface: everything is fine you helped me alot already in the past and probably many other people here too! =) |
| 23:55.57 | Hurgotron | gnarface is definetely extremely helpful, indeed. |
| 23:56.40 | frabbit | yeah definetely |