| 00:00.53 | fsmithred | frabbit, install windows first, leave or create some unpartitioned space, install linux and let it install the bootloader. |
| 00:01.01 | fsmithred | there are a million howtos on this |
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| 00:44.34 | frabbit_ | fsmithred: ok thx... |
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| 10:32.09 | RhineDevil | When my desktop pc resumes from suspend USB devices won't turn on. Note that I have noveau video driver installed |
| 10:32.46 | RhineDevil | https://askubuntu.com/questions/589297/usb-port-not-working-after-resume-from-suspend-ubuntu-14-04 I tried adding usbcore.autosuspend=-1 as explained in this post with no results |
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| 12:32.31 | user_mike | Congratulations being picked up by ParrotOS & GNEWsense |
| 12:33.01 | user_mike | My Yubikey 5 is working well with PAM_U2F, but it went from 1 touch to 2 touches for some reason |
| 12:33.13 | user_mike | On BeoWulf that is |
| 12:33.43 | user_mike | And also I have to start PulseAudio each time I boot now, that just started randomly after 1 week with no issues |
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| 13:04.33 | rknop | Hey -- I'm running Beowulf, but don't seem to be able to install Okular. The reason is a whole bunch of other support packages that aren't going to be install. I traced down one path of the dependency tree, and got down to "libpolkit-qt5-1-1 : Depends: libpam-systemd" |
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| 13:05.11 | rknop | Has systemd infected KDE to the point that we won't be able to use KDE utilities any more? I depend on Okular, as I don't know that there's anything else that handles PDF annotations and PDF forms reasonably well. |
| 13:05.30 | xinomilo | try : apt install elogind libpam-elogind okular |
| 13:06.40 | rknop | Huh, that seems to be going. package wizardry. |
| 13:07.35 | rknop | How could I have figured out from the apt-get response that that was a way to get things to work? Is elogind an alternative to something else that was installed? |
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| 13:07.45 | xinomilo | apt depends libpolkit-qt5-1-1 |
| 13:08.05 | xinomilo | |Depends: <default-logind> |
| 13:08.05 | xinomilo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.05 | xinomilo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.05 | xinomilo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.35 | rknop | Hmm... what I see is: |
| 13:08.39 | rknop | libpolkit-qt5-1-1 |
| 13:08.40 | rknop | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.40 | rknop | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:08.41 | rknop | at the top |
| 13:08.53 | rknop | (I'm in the middle of the previous install command.) |
| 13:08.53 | xinomilo | ok, i'm in ceres, not beowulf |
| 13:09.16 | xinomilo | depends on either of those. elogind is alternative to systemd's logind |
| 13:10.03 | rknop | It's weird that mine doesn't give me the second alternative, but the install command you gave me did owrk. It seems a little mysterious to me. |
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| 16:21.24 | *** topic/#devuan is Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Jessie 1.0 old-stable, ASCII 2.1 stable) | | Conference (2019) https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/ | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ | take offtopic chat to #debianfork |
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| 16:36.04 | golinux | <openbsdtai123> I just inform you. debian is is the same. |
| 16:36.24 | golinux | File a bug with Debian then. |
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| 16:43.36 | rad | If I connect with MATE to a remote server, shouldn't there be a gvfs mount in /run/user/1000? |
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| 16:49.18 | premoboss | hi |
| 16:49.24 | premoboss | im using chromium |
| 16:50.54 | premoboss | i am on youtube and seeing a video. then video stop. i try to get the video with youtube-dl and got a message thht video was dedeted by owner. anyway i still have it in cache of cromium and i can see it about for 60%. qeustion: how can i retrive the video from the crhomium cache? |
| 16:52.28 | rad | Maybe copy the cache directory of chrome and then see which of the files play with VLC? Start from the most recent files. |
| 16:56.06 | premoboss | rad, already did, i identified some file bigger than others (5M, 6M) ecc but comnand "file" report them just as "data" and vlc is not able to blay them. |
| 16:56.23 | premoboss | after i failed, i came here to ask help :-) |
| 16:58.16 | premoboss | alternative is to play file on crhomium and record it with mobile phone but it isa s o bad and inelegant solution |
| 16:58.34 | furrywolf | probably better off asking in a chromium-specific channel... also, I think youtube uses javascript to feed data to the player, so I have no idea how it gets cached. |
| 16:59.33 | fsmithred | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-legacy appears to work properly. It gives three choices for who can run X: root, console users, anyone. I chose console users and my user can still run startx. |
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| 17:00.32 | kiwi_test | hi all |
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| 17:05.14 | rad | premoboss, just add all the files to the vlc playlist and hit play and see if anything plays as it goes through them |
| 17:07.40 | fsmithred | premoboss, when was the last time you updated youtube-dl? |
| 17:07.41 | premoboss | rad... good idea. let me do it |
| 17:09.17 | premoboss | furrywolf, do you cnow some chtomium-specific channel here on freenode, please? |
| 17:09.57 | furrywolf | #chromium has 360 users. |
| 17:10.32 | premoboss | thanks |
| 17:10.42 | rad | Clipit is quite broken in beowulf. |
| 17:11.32 | rad | the hotkeys don't seem to work and if I open the settings or about dialog it's an empty gray square that sits undecorated at the top-left of my screen. |
| 17:11.46 | rad | Also the hotkey I set top open the advanced start menu doesn't seem to work either. |
| 17:11.51 | rad | But MATE hotkeys in general work. |
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| 17:25.13 | kiwi-test | just one question, will you change in the next releases to systemd? |
| 17:25.56 | kiwi-test | accoding to the table on distrowatch it seems so https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=devuan |
| 17:27.37 | golinux | Muhahahaha! No! |
| 17:29.00 | golinux | They say, "The project's primary goal is to provide a variant of Debian without the complexities and dependencies of systemd . . ." |
| 17:29.22 | golinux | That is why we exist. |
| 17:30.34 | golinux | FYI http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt |
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| 17:31.55 | furrywolf | where does the table say that? |
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| 17:34.15 | furrywolf | it says init sysv in every column on the table. heh. |
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| 18:09.04 | kiwi-test | ok maybe distrowatch made a mistake |
| 18:10.13 | kiwi-test | when you scroll down where systemd says in the column at testing says 241 and in unstable says 245.5 |
| 18:10.17 | kiwi-test | therefore i asked |
| 18:16.45 | rad | I guess those are the version of systemd that are available in the repos, coming from debian. |
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| 18:21.37 | rad | Doesn't mean they're used or will be used. |
| 18:22.11 | rad | It also lists the chromium version but it's not installed at all by default. Firefox is IIRC. |
| 18:27.51 | kiwi-test | yeah i got it |
| 18:33.20 | kiwi-test | anyway i am relieved to hear that |
| 18:33.31 | kiwi-test | cya buy buy |
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| 19:07.55 | merzbird | does devuan use something other than ~/.Xresources for uh.. x resources? |
| 19:08.15 | merzbird | or do i have to author one on my own |
| 19:11.11 | Atari-Frosch | merzbird: I guess you have to. Had the same problem some days ago. |
| 19:11.33 | mason | merzbird: Don't forget .Xdefaults |
| 19:13.04 | Atari-Frosch | It seems it doesn't matter how you call it. You just have to tell /etc/X11/xinit/xinit.rc about it. :-) |
| 19:13.35 | Atari-Frosch | like this: |
| 19:13.37 | Atari-Frosch | if test -f "$HOME/.Xresources"; then |
| 19:13.37 | Atari-Frosch | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.38 | Atari-Frosch | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.38 | Atari-Frosch | fi |
| 19:13.55 | mason | Just saying, .Xdefaults works out of the box. |
| 19:14.17 | Atari-Frosch | Hm, did not for me. Or I did something wrong. |
| 19:14.46 | mason | Works for me. And it doesn't have to be anywhere in /etc - if you want, you can xrdb -merge out of .xsession or something. |
| 19:16.25 | merzbird | ty friends |
| 19:16.47 | mason | merzbird: FWIW, man X and look at the description of XENVIRONMENT |
| 19:17.08 | merzbird | aye |
| 19:17.16 | mason | They note .Xdefaults-hostname but without -hostname works as well. |
| 19:17.39 | mason | Different behaviour for .Xdefaults and .Xresources, which I didn't know about until just now. |
| 19:18.42 | mason | Second section talking about XENVIRONMENT I should say, since it appears a couple times in the man page. |
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| 22:00.02 | veeee | i've installed these https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware |
| 22:00.15 | veeee | but i'm not sure it's working fine |
| 22:00.52 | veeee | could it be related to the fact that it's a debian package? |
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| 22:06.42 | fsmithred | most of the packages in devuan are debian packages |
| 22:08.08 | veeee | this package is not on devuan repos if i'm not mistaken |
| 22:08.35 | fsmithred | I see it in beowulf |
| 22:08.44 | fsmithred | firmware-ath9k-htc |
| 22:09.42 | fsmithred | I don't see it in ascii |
| 22:09.58 | fsmithred | just firmware-atheros, and I don't know if that has what you need |
| 22:10.13 | mason | veeee: https://bpa.st/M4VA (but are you on ASCII?) |
| 22:11.42 | veeee | rifmware-atheros is the non free version i believe |
| 22:14.11 | veeee | i'm in stable |
| 22:15.04 | veeee | anyway the firmware works fine, i'm just unable to connect to hotspot |
| 22:15.36 | veeee | could be something else |
| 22:17.39 | gnarface | veeee: note that ascii (devuan stable) is a version behind debian stable currently |
| 22:18.28 | gnarface | veeee: ascii is based on stretch. beowulf, which corresponds to buster is still devuan testing (but it's in beta if you want to try it) |
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| 22:24.30 | mason | gnarface: RC's out! |
| 22:32.52 | gnarface | oh cool |
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| 23:04.25 | eyalroz | fsmithred: Following our discussion yesterday, |
| 23:04.25 | eyalroz | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1638939 |
| 23:04.31 | eyalroz | nemo: ditto. |
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| 23:08.35 | fsmithred | cool. That looks like they plan to fix it. |
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| 23:11.23 | TwistedFate | i keep having RAM issues on devuan |
| 23:11.26 | TwistedFate | it's driving me CRAZY |
| 23:11.43 | TwistedFate | something keeps filling my 16GB of RAM and i don't know what |
| 23:11.53 | TwistedFate | like the whole OS is one huge RAM leak |
| 23:12.08 | golinux | mason . . . has been out since the weekend. |
| 23:15.12 | TwistedFate | /j ##linux |
| 23:19.46 | mason | golinux: Right, but gnarface evidently didn't know. |
| 23:20.52 | golinux | So much for reading comprehension . . . LOL! |
| 23:20.55 | mason | I'd reported results for the netinstall image a few hours after rrq mentioned it. |
| 23:20.58 | mason | No worries. |
| 23:21.14 | mason | Sorry, brain's tied up in auditd. |
| 23:21.29 | golinux | There wasn't much of an announcement. |
| 23:21.48 | golinux | Enjoy your bondage! |
| 23:22.35 | mason | It feels like it sometimes, but sometimes there's no other way to understand what's happening in a directory or with a process or whatever. |
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| 23:26.05 | mason | Bondage. Just parsed that. auditd's unrelated to systemd. We have it here. |
| 23:27.50 | mason | Oh, and just reparsed. Tied up. It's been a long day and sleep will fix this. :) |
| 23:30.44 | golinux | I was just being a little kinky . . . |
| 23:31.28 | mason | "These knots! They're so intricate! Was this guy a sailor?!?" |
| 23:31.37 | bgstack15 | or a Scout? |
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