| 00:00.34 | gnarface | ok, so 2007 is not exactly yesterday. i think if you put a good couple weeks into learning this process to the point your comfortable repeating it without assistance, you'll be happy again. as happy as you were with MS-DOS, maybe more. |
| 00:01.18 | gnarface | and we can help you here if you're patient |
| 00:01.39 | gnarface | nothing you've mentioned seems like a tall order |
| 00:01.47 | gnarface | Samba won't be fun to configure but you'll live |
| 00:01.59 | SkaFan | guess best would me linux from scatch... but just for stoage... overkill |
| 00:02.27 | SkaFan | im happy with samba now the way i set it up |
| 00:03.01 | gnarface | well, if you want "linux from scratch" like control without the effort level, you can do a minimal install by just not selecting anything at the "tasksel" stage of the installer (or just using debootstrap instead) |
| 00:03.32 | SkaFan | im going with minimal-install all the time |
| 00:04.29 | SkaFan | at least here at home... got some servers runing, there i use debian for virtualbox and on vbox still ubuntu |
| 00:05.38 | SkaFan | but only becose virtualmin wont work on devuan... im just to lazy to do all the web setup and user by hand |
| 00:07.08 | SkaFan | btw.. kernel compiles now... guess i just missed some packages i needed |
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| 00:09.54 | gnarface | well, i'm glad you got it figured out. enjoy your Devuan |
| 00:10.49 | SkaFan | only until i get into new problems LOL |
| 00:14.09 | SkaFan | lol |
| 00:14.28 | SkaFan | kernel compiling just stoped... ran out of HDD space |
| 00:14.39 | SkaFan | omg 9GB.. crazy |
| 00:18.49 | Tenkawa | SkaFan: which kernel you trying to compile? |
| 00:19.07 | gnarface | 9GB does seem like a bit much. i think mine take like 2-3GB? |
| 00:19.12 | Tenkawa | noe of mine are anywhere near that big |
| 00:19.49 | SkaFan | it just needed the space while compiling |
| 00:19.59 | Tenkawa | yeah |
| 00:20.10 | Tenkawa | thats what I mean too |
| 00:20.21 | Tenkawa | thats still not right |
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| 00:20.58 | gnarface | SkaFan: you building for multiple architectures at once maybe, or something like that? |
| 00:21.00 | Tenkawa | unless you have a file based swap and its running your fs out |
| 00:21.22 | gnarface | oh, yea expanding swap file could be an issue too |
| 00:21.50 | gnarface | or if you mean 9GB for the whole system, including a heavy desktop like KDE, plus build deps for all of it, maybe... |
| 00:21.52 | SkaFan | i tried on ubuntu some while ago... i needed lot of space there too |
| 00:21.55 | Tenkawa | my curent 5.5.13 build only takes up 2843M |
| 00:22.05 | gnarface | yea that sounds more reasonable^ |
| 00:22.23 | Tenkawa | counts up how many modules in that build |
| 00:22.27 | gnarface | i think the OpenBSD kernel build uses a similar amount of space |
| 00:22.31 | SkaFan | it creaded me a 4GB+ deb file i even did not needed |
| 00:22.40 | SkaFan | some debug stuff |
| 00:22.43 | gnarface | haha 4gb deb |
| 00:23.28 | SkaFan | my 1st linux try was on 14 3,5" disks LOL |
| 00:23.38 | gnarface | that package should be a couple dozen MB at the most. something with your build process is whack. |
| 00:23.42 | SkaFan | try copy 4GB form floppy... |
| 00:23.55 | Tenkawa | that was with 6514 modules btw |
| 00:24.16 | SkaFan | na the real kernel deb was ok... it was just the debug stuff |
| 00:24.17 | Tenkawa | SkaFan: yep.. good ole slackware |
| 00:24.51 | SkaFan | dont know that is was... just a big hanbook SysV or somethink and some disks |
| 00:25.02 | Tenkawa | awwwww |
| 00:25.06 | SkaFan | didnt even got it to work... |
| 00:25.27 | SkaFan | you needed a PhD. for installing Linux at that time |
| 00:25.31 | Tenkawa | slackware.. the ultimate linux on floppy |
| 00:25.42 | Tenkawa | lol |
| 00:26.00 | Tenkawa | (back then) |
| 00:26.39 | SkaFan | was in the time when you had 3 different CD-ROM controllers on your sound blaster |
| 00:27.12 | Tenkawa | sound blaster??? that wasnt even around yet... adlib ftw |
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| 00:27.38 | SkaFan | hmm was a gamer i was lucky with SB pro then... |
| 00:28.01 | Tenkawa | nod |
| 00:28.18 | Tenkawa | started a bit earlier |
| 00:28.27 | SkaFan | remeber... it was bevor the internet... so no really help if you could not get it to work on your own |
| 00:29.37 | SkaFan | my 1st PC was a 286... 40MB HDD... MB not GB |
| 00:29.49 | Tenkawa | trs-80.. 1979 |
| 00:30.02 | SkaFan | MS DOS 3.3 could only make use of 30MB per partition |
| 00:30.25 | SkaFan | damm was i lukcy then i could created another drive D with 7MB |
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| 00:31.46 | SkaFan | are you guys using devuan on desktops? |
| 00:32.01 | Tenkawa | define desktop |
| 00:32.27 | SkaFan | working everyday PC |
| 00:32.33 | Tenkawa | yep |
| 00:32.37 | Tenkawa | this one |
| 00:33.03 | SkaFan | i just cant get some hardware to run... so desktop is still windows... |
| 00:33.04 | Tenkawa | 16 core nvidia hp laptop |
| 00:34.09 | Tenkawa | all of the hardware rus great |
| 00:34.26 | Tenkawa | what are you having problems with? |
| 00:34.32 | SkaFan | fingerprint reader wont work under Linux here and the Logitech G19 LED Display... could it never ever get to work i way i wanted |
| 00:35.43 | Tenkawa | the g19 can definitely be done |
| 00:36.07 | SkaFan | its an AuthenTec reader... it can read fingerprints but seems like it cant compare it if you want to login |
| 00:36.09 | Tenkawa | fingerprint reader I'd have to know more details on its hardware |
| 00:38.17 | Tenkawa | looks like there's been some debian movement that could be migrated |
| 00:38.39 | SkaFan | as far as i could understand the bug reports they chnaged a chip in it and oyu would have needed to run a patch and compile it on your own |
| 00:38.55 | Tenkawa | yes... |
| 00:39.01 | Tenkawa | that happens a lot |
| 00:39.33 | SkaFan | well that is what keeps me from chaning to linux on the desktop |
| 00:39.56 | SkaFan | the servers i run work all headless... no problem there |
| 00:40.17 | SkaFan | but as soon as i use a window desktop enviroment... |
| 00:40.26 | Tenkawa | is a dev geek.. its what he enjoys , compile compile compile |
| 00:41.22 | SkaFan | well why dont you come around and fix my desktop... ill make you some coffee and cold cheese pizza LOL |
| 00:41.33 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
| 00:42.01 | Tenkawa | you guys not under lockdown? |
| 00:42.09 | SkaFan | kinda |
| 00:42.16 | SkaFan | we can still go to work |
| 00:42.17 | Tenkawa | we are majorly |
| 00:42.19 | SkaFan | shopping |
| 00:42.38 | Tenkawa | shopping and medical is about iit here |
| 00:42.46 | SkaFan | if you can find toilet paper... all people going crazy |
| 00:43.04 | SkaFan | where r u form? im from Lower-Saxony, Germany |
| 00:43.11 | Tenkawa | job has to be like food service and critical employees |
| 00:43.17 | Tenkawa | ohio usa |
| 00:43.37 | SkaFan | work is still going |
| 00:43.44 | golinux | This is getting really OT. Would be better to take it to #debianfork |
| 00:43.58 | Tenkawa | sorry |
| 00:44.11 | Unit193 | Ohio. \o/ |
| 00:44.21 | SkaFan | what? you cant chat in a chat? |
| 00:44.22 | SkaFan | LOL |
| 00:44.40 | golinux | NP. It's easy to get carried away in a support channel with social stuff. |
| 00:45.02 | golinux | SkaFan: The BS channel is #debianfork. LOL! |
| 00:45.23 | golinux | Have fun there! |
| 00:45.35 | Tenkawa | golinux: to be fair the topic should really reflect that |
| 00:45.55 | Tenkawa | or chanserv message |
| 00:46.37 | golinux | I have no admin access on irc |
| 00:47.18 | Tenkawa | I'm just saying... |
| 00:47.48 | golinux | so can't change the header. The purpose of various channels is noted elsewhere like the website |
| 00:47.59 | golinux | I don't disagree |
| 00:48.26 | golinux | https://beta.devuan.org/os/community |
| 00:48.53 | Tenkawa | its also not listed either |
| 00:49.17 | golinux | What isn't? |
| 00:49.20 | Tenkawa | Channel rules link should be in the toopic |
| 00:49.29 | Tenkawa | that link you just posted |
| 00:49.36 | golinux | You are beating a dead horse |
| 00:49.54 | Tenkawa | Well... its still relevant apparently |
| 00:50.06 | golinux | I don't understand that last bit. |
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| 04:29.40 | golinux | 56 |
| 04:29.53 | DonkeyHotei | 3.14 |
| 04:30.09 | golinux | 16 |
| 04:30.14 | golinux | iirc |
| 04:30.19 | tponaf | morning! :) |
| 04:30.24 | tponaf | "it is really hard to not touch ones face when im constantly facepalming from watching the news" <- :) |
| 04:30.36 | golinux | Almost midnight |
| 04:30.40 | yeti | 133\355 |
| 04:30.59 | golinux | Enough silliness. I'm OT! |
| 04:31.13 | yeti | silly? me? |
| 04:31.16 | yeti | nah |
| 04:31.29 | yeti | just a typo |
| 04:31.33 | yeti | 113\355 |
| 04:31.42 | yeti | would it be |
| 04:32.08 | yeti | 113\355 = 355/113 ~ pi |
| 04:32.39 | DonkeyHotei | 22/7 |
| 04:33.20 | yeti | $ dv -e '8k 355 113 / f' |
| 04:33.22 | yeti | sh: 1: dv: not found |
| 04:33.24 | yeti | meh! |
| 04:33.30 | yeti | $ dc -e '8k 355 113 / f' |
| 04:33.32 | yeti | 3.14159292 |
| 04:33.38 | yeti | $ dc -e '8k 22 7 / f' |
| 04:33.40 | yeti | 3.14285714 |
| 04:33.58 | yeti | the better one even is easier to remember |
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| 10:01.27 | al3xus | Hi. Is it all right with the dng mailing-list? The last message seems to be of 2020-04-01 09:07 +200... And that sounds strange... |
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| 11:10.22 | debdog | what does it turn NO? |
| 11:10.47 | djph | yeah, I didn't see anything new this morning al3xus |
| 11:14.29 | al3xus | djph: no messages for over 48 hours... (and I have sent one about 1-2 hours ago...) |
| 11:15.11 | djph | hm thought I saw some stuff come through yesterday |
| 11:18.16 | al3xus | newest msgs: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/mindex/dng@20380101.000000.00000000.en.html |
| 11:18.41 | al3xus | the last one is of 2020-04-01 09:07 ... |
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| 11:28.22 | ShorTie | trying making a 'testing' message, this is a test, only a test to see if workin |
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| 12:55.15 | ejr | is there a way to permanently sed LID status to disabled in /proc/acpi/wakeup? when I do echo disabled>/proc/acpi/wakeup it only sets it for a session |
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| 13:08.41 | ErRandir | could put it in /etc/rc.local |
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| 13:15.20 | ejr | you mean the line 'echo LID>/proc/acpi/wakeup'? (it's actually echo LID, not actually disabled as I wrote above) |
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| 13:53.40 | ErRandir | yes, that line. Or whatever you need doing at boot time |
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| 14:06.20 | ejr | ok, thanks |
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| 15:14.52 | meep_____ | tponaf: why is there so much rf shielding in yourr phone? |
| 15:15.21 | tponaf | idunno |
| 15:15.39 | meep_____ | What does the switch do |
| 15:15.46 | meep_____ | Ground ant |
| 15:15.58 | tponaf | bridges or cuts connect to + on battery |
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| 15:23.46 | golinux | What does phone shielding have to do with Devuan support? |
| 15:24.04 | golinux | #debianfork would be better. |
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| 16:18.26 | *** topic/#devuan by MinceR -> Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Jessie 1.0 old-stable, ASCII 2.1 stable) | | Conference (2019) https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/ | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ | take offtopic chat to #debianfork |
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| 16:18.34 | mason | MinceR: You rock. Thank you. |
| 16:18.44 | MinceR | np |
| 16:19.07 | mason | golinux: ^ \o/ |
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| 16:25.43 | golinux | MinceR: My hero!! |
| 16:25.49 | MinceR | lol |
| 16:25.53 | golinux | Thanks for doing that |
| 16:26.00 | MinceR | np |
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| 16:26.08 | MinceR | :> |
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| 18:42.26 | Atari-Frosch | There is no chance of getting Devuan for the PowerPC architecture, right? Asking for a friend, who is looking for an alternative for Debian. |
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| 18:48.46 | golinux | Atari-Frosch: There is a PowerPC mini.iso |
| 18:49.11 | Atari-Frosch | Oh? |
| 18:49.27 | golinux | I need to find the url |
| 18:49.42 | Atari-Frosch | Knowing that it is there I can go find it myself, thank you. |
| 18:50.44 | golinux | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/beowulf/main/installer-<ARCH>/current/images/ |
| 18:52.46 | Atari-Frosch | thx |
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| 18:54.08 | Atari-Frosch | golinux: I'll pass that through to him :-) |
| 19:00.26 | golinux | Hope it works out |
| 19:06.15 | fsmithred | Atari-Frosch, replace <ARCH> with ppc64el |
| 19:07.33 | Atari-Frosch | fsmithred: Thank you. :-) |
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