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| 02:27.53 | ShorTie | cosurgi, 'apt install ssh' brings in over 150 megs of gnome |
| 02:29.30 | fsmithred | add --no-install-recommends |
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| 02:35.51 | tuxd3v | hello guys |
| 02:36.11 | tuxd3v | I am trying to find a good way to restore my iptables rules.. |
| 02:36.56 | tuxd3v | I was thinking on /etc/rc.local |
| 02:40.56 | fsmithred | why not use iptables-restore? |
| 02:41.20 | tuxd3v | yeah I was thinking in use it on rc.local |
| 02:41.29 | tuxd3v | I mean using it on rc.local |
| 02:41.38 | fsmithred | why? There's already a mechanism to save and restore the rules |
| 02:41.44 | tuxd3v | thanks |
| 02:42.10 | tuxd3v | fsmithred, in the past I do remember that.. |
| 02:42.18 | tuxd3v | if you put your ruls in like |
| 02:42.52 | tuxd3v | \/etc\/iptables.rules |
| 02:43.29 | tuxd3v | fsmithred, does you remember how to have them restored, that way? |
| 02:43.36 | fsmithred | nope |
| 02:43.39 | tuxd3v | thanks in advance :) |
| 02:43.39 | fsmithred | check the man page |
| 02:43.45 | tuxd3v | yeah |
| 02:43.48 | tuxd3v | I will :) |
| 02:43.51 | tuxd3v | thanks |
| 02:43.51 | fsmithred | I don't mess with rules |
| 02:49.08 | tuxd3v | I forgot to block router access to my internal dhcp/dns/printer/scanner/etc server :S |
| 02:49.32 | tuxd3v | and now checking router knows about a machine that is not even in its network..puff |
| 02:50.00 | tuxd3v | and you now, routers are like Swiss Cheese |
| 02:50.01 | tuxd3v | :D |
| 02:52.48 | tuxd3v | now, -> know, |
| 02:53.30 | tuxd3v | everybody messes sonner or later with rules :) |
| 02:53.39 | tuxd3v | sonner -> sooner |
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| 03:23.16 | rrq | there is the package iptables-persistent which aims to preserve the rule set across reboot |
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| 04:13.37 | tuxd3v | if somebody is having problems applying firewall rules to your Raspberry PI |
| 04:13.45 | tuxd3v | just adopt old names.. |
| 04:14.27 | tuxd3v | but the scheme 'net.ifnames=0 biosdevname=0' in bootargs doesn't work |
| 04:15.07 | tuxd3v | you got always or no network, or something horrendous like 'enxb827eba8d596' |
| 04:15.16 | tuxd3v | you need a udev rule.. |
| 04:15.38 | tuxd3v | like |
| 04:15.45 | tuxd3v | SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{address}=="b8:27:eb:a8:d5:96", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" |
| 04:16.16 | tuxd3v | then use etho were you need, after that, you can save restore and apply firewall rules nicelly :) |
| 04:16.26 | tuxd3v | case solved :) |
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| 04:25.33 | meep_____ | What about just removing udev |
| 04:25.44 | meep_____ | It's a raspberry pi |
| 04:25.50 | meep_____ | What do you need a device daemon for? |
| 04:26.13 | meep_____ | I run NetBSD on my raspberry pi and it doesn't come with a devfs daemon |
| 04:26.38 | tuxd3v | and how to you set rules? |
| 04:26.42 | meep_____ | It's super simple. I can just chown root:nutd /dev/ttyu0 |
| 04:26.55 | gnarface | you need a device daemon for creating device nodes on the fly so you don't have to mknod & chown everything manually.... |
| 04:26.59 | meep_____ | To allow nut-daemon to real the ups over serial |
| 04:27.43 | meep_____ | gnarface: I consider chowning and mknoding simpler and easier than editing eudev's config |
| 04:28.02 | meep_____ | Because it's persistent |
| 04:28.45 | gnarface | i don't disagree, but some stuff has become picky about timing of this type of thing, and having the ability to create stuff on the fly for it (Steam comes to mind) |
| 04:28.55 | tuxd3v | meep_____, that is relative, on a rpi it could make sense |
| 04:29.23 | meep_____ | He said he's running on a pi |
| 04:29.32 | meep_____ | Oh |
| 04:29.34 | meep_____ | You did tuxd3v |
| 04:29.41 | tuxd3v | yeah, I do |
| 04:30.17 | meep_____ | gnarface: you don't need steam. You can buy DRM free games from gog |
| 04:30.25 | tuxd3v | but there are some things that take a lot of time, like discovering the correct ethernet interface |
| 04:30.26 | meep_____ | With just a simple download in your web browser |
| 04:30.36 | gnarface | yea not that there's Steam for the pi, or frankly any games from GoG for that matter... |
| 04:30.37 | meep_____ | You don't need to run some weird blob on your machine |
| 04:30.51 | meep_____ | Speaking of |
| 04:30.56 | meep_____ | That's all x86 stuff |
| 04:31.02 | meep_____ | Pi is aarch64 |
| 04:31.23 | tuxd3v | pi is a lot of things one of them is aarch64 |
| 04:31.28 | gnarface | for my pi arguably i could do without udev, because the only thing plugged into it is a usb webcam that the pi has to cold boot to properly init anyway |
| 04:31.37 | tuxd3v | but they also have aarch32 and arm32 |
| 04:32.28 | tuxd3v | my case Raspberry Pi 1V rev.1.0 is arm32 |
| 04:32.35 | tuxd3v | armv6 |
| 04:32.40 | gnarface | yea, i have that one too |
| 04:32.45 | tuxd3v | :) |
| 04:33.03 | tuxd3v | this was driving my nuts |
| 04:33.19 | tuxd3v | it was a simple rename of the interface and everything works nice :) |
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| 04:33.37 | tuxd3v | my -> me |
| 04:33.56 | tponaf | beowulf gimp fails with Depends: libgimp2.0 (<= 2.10.8-z) but 2.10.12-1 is to be installed and Depends: gimp-data (<= 2.10.8-z) but 2.10.12-1 is to be installed |
| 04:34.14 | gnarface | brutal |
| 04:34.16 | tponaf | just4me or others have it too? |
| 04:34.23 | meep_____ | Raspberry pi model 3b and up are aarch64 |
| 04:34.27 | tuxd3v | after aplying rules it just freezed or so, no conection to it, and it his a litle bit far away from me no good access.. |
| 04:34.31 | tuxd3v | but solved :) |
| 04:35.33 | meep_____ | Betawulf is LXC3.0 yes? |
| 04:35.36 | gnarface | tponaf: did you mix repos? |
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| 04:35.48 | gnarface | tponaf: like with other distros, or versions? |
| 04:36.04 | meep_____ | Holy crap |
| 04:36.13 | meep_____ | 4G desktop iso |
| 04:36.17 | meep_____ | 4 gigs |
| 04:36.29 | tponaf | apt-there are some out-of-devuan repos. maybe they added gimp and polluted me |
| 04:37.19 | meep_____ | Thats so big |
| 04:37.26 | tuxd3v | meep_____, I am not running blobs.. I am running pure devuan, with mainline kernel, no blobs :) |
| 04:37.28 | gnarface | tponaf: i don't have beowulf to test but ceres was still using 2.10.14 as of yesterday... |
| 04:37.44 | tponaf | hows live in ceres-land for you gnarface ? |
| 04:37.58 | tponaf | *life |
| 04:38.06 | gnarface | tponaf: i wouldn't recommend it unless you're a freaking addict |
| 04:38.12 | meep_____ | *betawulf |
| 04:38.44 | gnarface | tponaf: you can verify package versions here https://pkginfo.devuan.org/ |
| 04:39.01 | tponaf | thank you |
| 04:40.26 | tponaf | i'e neer seen -z as a ersion |
| 04:40.33 | gnarface | tponaf: according to that, beowulf is on 2.10.8 still, and ceres is on 2.10.18 now... wherever you got 2.10.12 is seems to be a mystery |
| 04:41.06 | tponaf | scratches head. worked fine last night. |
| 04:41.24 | tponaf | oh well not important. hope eeryone's haing a great 2020 |
| 04:42.01 | gnarface | tponaf: ah, there's a debian standard to the naming conventions, the part before the '-' is the upstream version number, and the part after is debian's package version number |
| 04:42.38 | gnarface | usually it's a low integer but sometimes it's a datestamp, serial number, beta flag like "+b2" or others |
| 04:42.59 | tponaf | apt-cache show gimp-data shows me Version: 2.10.12-1 Version: 2.10.8-2 |
| 04:43.08 | gnarface | odd |
| 04:43.21 | gnarface | run "apt-get update" then try it again, any change? |
| 04:43.52 | tponaf | did tht but i'll remove all the nvidia properary repos |
| 04:44.01 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 04:44.30 | gnarface | if you already installed some 2.10.12 versioned gimp packages, you may also have to uninstall them to get them out of the way |
| 04:45.15 | tponaf | k ty |
| 04:46.51 | tponaf | now has 5 devuan phones :) |
| 04:48.06 | gnarface | tponaf: congrats. btw here's what a normal /etc/apt/sources.list looks like, just to make sure. you can use this verbatim: http://paste.debian.net/1137333/ |
| 04:48.59 | tponaf | oh that's simpler than mine |
| 04:49.11 | gnarface | (to also get commercial stuff like nvidia's official drivers just append " contrib non-free" to every line) |
| 04:49.54 | tponaf | i didn't know merged |
| 04:50.01 | tponaf | does that have non-free and contrib? |
| 04:50.16 | gnarface | that might also have caused you problems, if you were using something other than /merged, your sources.list may be out of date... |
| 04:51.05 | gnarface | no, /merged is not including contrib and non-free implicitly, it's for something else (https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla) |
| 04:51.36 | onefang | "merged" means the merged result of Debian and Devuan packages. |
| 04:51.47 | tponaf | ah ty |
| 04:51.58 | gnarface | hmm, or mabye this one is the right one now? not sure... https://git.devuan.org/devuan-infrastructure/amprolla3 |
| 04:52.27 | gnarface | wanders away |
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| 04:52.50 | tponaf | experiments with extended power for deuan phone :) https://0x0.st/iMAK.JPG |
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| 04:54.00 | tponaf | all friends of devuan should learn of Maemo Leste on Droid 4 (xt894). It's deliciously tantalizing. |
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| 05:05.47 | tuxd3v_ | tponaf, how is the support for the Droid 4 ? |
| 05:06.05 | tuxd3v_ | I mean 3G, wifi, etc |
| 05:06.44 | tponaf | that's a big topic but it's not at 'daily driver' stage |
| 05:07.17 | tponaf | first phone call made last week, wifi works pretty well, pvr 3D mostly working |
| 05:07.45 | tponaf | usb host mode said to work |
| 05:08.38 | tponaf | and well, having the same underlying OS on portable as on desktop is very fun |
| 05:08.40 | tuxd3v_ | tponaf, and 3G? |
| 05:08.52 | tponaf | i don't know |
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| 05:09.05 | tuxd3v_ | or LTE |
| 05:09.22 | tuxd3v_ | that is a very important feature :) |
| 05:09.26 | tponaf | i got 60fps SNES and PS1 last week :) |
| 05:10.16 | tuxd3v_ | it there any app for A-gps? |
| 05:10.33 | tponaf | idk |
| 05:10.40 | tponaf | was there for maemo? |
| 05:11.02 | tuxd3v_ | idk neither, but It is a device I consider :) |
| 05:13.28 | tponaf | currently boot and root partitions are on sd card, so it's convenient to backup and swap versions |
| 05:15.39 | tuxd3v_ | it would be nice to hagea gps app for it |
| 05:15.45 | tuxd3v_ | also LTE conection |
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| 05:16.09 | tuxd3v_ | with this options I would get one :) |
| 05:16.24 | tuxd3v_ | and I would install Maemo Leste on it :) |
| 05:16.33 | tponaf | are there any mapping apps that provide user-assist for gps |
| 05:16.38 | tponaf | "i am here, on map, roughly" |
| 05:17.09 | tuxd3v_ | I use a lot navmii |
| 05:17.21 | tuxd3v_ | but its on android |
| 05:17.43 | tuxd3v_ | it would be a nice to have in Maemo Leste :) |
| 05:19.54 | tponaf | it is not at 'daily driver' stage |
| 05:20.11 | tponaf | for many people it will neer be |
| 05:20.53 | tponaf | with the 3D drivers though, it's not definitely a fun hacktoy |
| 05:20.57 | tponaf | now |
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| 08:33.48 | fonky | hi all, is there any package in the repositories that enables one to search a html directory listings grep style |
| 08:33.56 | fonky | for example mozilla´s ftp |
| 08:34.09 | fonky | or just about any program that does that commandline or otherwise |
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| 08:39.32 | gnarface | fonky: well you could use curl or wget to pipe the html to grep... |
| 08:40.24 | fonky | ty |
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| 09:02.15 | tponaf | huffyu! |
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| 09:16.40 | fonky | lynx -dump -listonly http://ftp.metu.edu.tr/pub/mirrors/ftp.mozilla.org/addons/ | grep http | grep \.xpi$ | awk '{print $2}' |
| 09:16.45 | fonky | can anyone help me a bit |
| 09:18.53 | fonky | grep \.xpi$ <- does not work |
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| 09:23.50 | gnarface | fonky: try it single-quoted like this: grep '\.xpi$' |
| 09:24.33 | gnarface | alternately, this might work: grep \\.xpi$ |
| 09:26.25 | fonky | \o/ |
| 09:27.13 | fonky | none work though |
| 09:27.17 | gnarface | hmmm |
| 09:28.02 | gnarface | are you sure xpi would be at the end of the line though? remember that you're parsing the raw html not the rendered html... |
| 09:28.14 | gnarface | maybe it's working but you're looking for the wrong thing |
| 09:28.55 | fonky | the extension of a file insite the directory is .xpi at least those that i am interested in so yea, preety sure |
| 09:29.45 | gnarface | you don't have any idea how html works, do you? |
| 09:29.58 | fonky | i do |
| 09:31.33 | gnarface | well those html directory listings have invisible html tags inside them... if ".xpi" is a file extension name in a link to a file of that name as is expected for such listings, xpi would not appear at the very end of that line... there would be closing tags, so that grep syntax would not match |
| 09:32.32 | gnarface | try it without the $ |
| 09:32.36 | gnarface | see if that works better |
| 09:36.17 | gnarface | although, you know, you might be overthinking this... i know wget can get links recursively and maybe curl can too |
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| 10:05.12 | fonky | odd |
| 10:05.17 | fonky | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:05.20 | fonky | prints |
| 10:05.50 | fonky | does not |
| 10:05.51 | fonky | lynx -dump -listonly http://ftp.metu.edu.tr/pub/mirrors/ftp.mozilla.org/addons/ | grep http | grep '\.xpi' | awk '{print $2,$3,$4}' |
| 10:05.58 | fonky | oh dummy |
| 10:08.36 | fonky | without '\.xpi' the '' does not with does not |
| 10:08.42 | fonky | =.= |
| 10:13.51 | fonky | anyways ty for help gnarface :) |
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| 10:18.44 | fonky | oh |
| 10:18.46 | fonky | found out |
| 10:19.04 | fonky | lynx only prints one directory of contents |
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| 10:38.54 | zatumil | please try rsync or ftp to transfer files recursively |
| 10:40.54 | fonky | nono, im not into file transfer only file listing on a server, but thank you |
| 10:46.33 | zatumil | lftp has a find command |
| 10:47.00 | fonky | thanks |
| 10:47.57 | specing | a |
| 10:48.15 | fonky | but the thing i am actually trying to get is like local ls -R /home >> /home/whatever/bla.txt |
| 10:48.28 | fonky | :) |
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| 11:10.57 | tponaf | funny that #freifunk needs registration to chat |
| 11:13.08 | debdog | hehe |
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| 11:24.28 | tponaf | debdog: can i ask a question in pm |
| 11:25.54 | debdog | I am not a good supporter |
| 11:27.16 | tponaf | well a crisis is upon us and i would feel bad if i didn't at least try to help |
| 11:33.11 | debdog | this is a devuan suppor channel, if you have a question just ask |
| 11:33.16 | debdog | *support |
| 11:37.57 | ShorTie | fonky, grep can use " too, and works differently then ' |
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| 12:21.55 | gnstaxo | Is devuan ascii the recommended version? |
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| 12:22.50 | fonky | hi |
| 12:23.08 | fonky | root@KILLWORLD:/home/andraz# /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 12:23.09 | fonky | bash: /etc/sysctl.conf: Permission denied |
| 12:23.12 | fonky | is this normal? |
| 12:23.30 | fonky | i just want to disable inet6 |
| 12:30.06 | Joril | fonky: you have to use a command too... i.e. vi /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 12:30.48 | sixwheeledbeast | yer some text editor may help |
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| 12:36.56 | fsmithred | gnstaxo, ascii is the current stable release, beowulf is soon to become stable and there are beta isos available. |
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| 13:02.54 | Atari-Frosch | Just installing Devuan ASCII on a new system. apt search tells me that avidemux is not available. That's ⦠not so good. |
| 13:03.29 | fsmithred | I think that's been true since wheezy, maybe jessie |
| 13:04.53 | fsmithred | Atari-Frosch, check the mxlinux repo - I think they have it and it works on devuan - just get the debs you need - don't add the repo to your sources. |
| 13:05.20 | fsmithred | it = avidemux |
| 13:05.21 | xrogaan | beowulf should be stable enough, yes? |
| 13:05.51 | fsmithred | beowulf has been working fine for me since beginning of this year, longer for some other people |
| 13:06.20 | fsmithred | main issue now is getting the installers to do the right thing in all cases |
| 13:08.13 | Atari-Frosch | fsmithred: It's available in Jessie, yes. Don't know about newer versions of Debian. |
| 13:08.50 | Atari-Frosch | fsmithred: If I get it from that other repo without adding the source â what about updates then? |
| 13:09.08 | fsmithred | on your own. How often do you think it gets updated? |
| 13:09.30 | fsmithred | I'm not seeing it in jessie. Maybe you got it from deb-multimedia? |
| 13:10.16 | Atari-Frosch | deb-multimedia is possible, right |
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| 13:10.29 | Atari-Frosch | I have no clue how often avidemux gets updated ;-) |
| 13:10.53 | Atari-Frosch | Well OK, I'll try that. Thank you. |
| 13:11.38 | fsmithred | yw |
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| 15:20.01 | frabbit | apt update doesn't work |
| 15:20.47 | Atari-Frosch | apt-get update does. At least for me. ;-) |
| 15:21.13 | frabbit | and i can't ping pkgmaster.devuan.org |
| 15:22.55 | frabbit | also not available with webbrowser |
| 15:24.09 | frabbit | no lynx opens the site but before that i get: Bad partial reference! Stripping lead dots. |
| 15:24.19 | frabbit | ping still doenst work |
| 15:24.32 | frabbit | Atari-Frosch: apt-get update works neither here... |
| 15:27.04 | frabbit | rest of internet connection is not a problem, whats wrong here? |
| 15:27.43 | debdog | what about deb.devuan.org? |
| 15:27.59 | frabbit | RESET |
| 15:28.51 | Atari-Frosch | Oh, then it seems it's the server. |
| 15:28.52 | frabbit | debdog: i can ping that |
| 15:29.02 | tponaf | what is the popularity of devuan now? |
| 15:31.01 | frabbit | debdog: but i cant get updates from deb.devuan.org over https right? |
| 15:31.22 | debdog | hmm, I am not certain, frabbit |
| 15:32.31 | frabbit | debdog: SSL: certificate subject name (mirrors.dotsrc.org) does not match target host name 'deb.devuan.org' |
| 15:32.33 | fsmithred | if apt update is not working for you, something is wrong |
| 15:32.39 | debdog | if package devuan-keyring is up to date, AFAIK it should⢠work |
| 15:32.42 | frabbit | it ignores the sources |
| 15:33.40 | frabbit | package devuan-keyring Version:2017.10.03 |
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| 15:38.05 | frabbit | other https package sources? |
| 15:38.47 | fsmithred | frabbit, if you want to use https, you must select a repo that supports it |
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| 15:39.03 | frabbit | pkgmaster.devuan.org does |
| 15:39.09 | fsmithred | yes |
| 15:39.24 | frabbit | but that seems not available with apt and apt-get today... |
| 15:40.13 | fsmithred | I just updated on pkgmaster less than a minute ago |
| 15:40.22 | fsmithred | oh, but I'm not using https |
| 15:40.58 | frabbit | huh! it work now... o0 |
| 15:41.01 | fsmithred | I'll test that |
| 15:41.06 | fsmithred | oh, I guess not |
| 15:41.13 | frabbit | what the hack... |
| 15:41.34 | frabbit | i treid the last 20 minutes |
| 15:41.36 | fsmithred | wtf? now I can't connect to install apt-transport-https |
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| 15:41.52 | frabbit | fsmithred: .. weird.. theres something wrong then... |
| 15:42.06 | fsmithred | maybe network congestion? Everyone is home watching video over internet. |
| 15:42.29 | fsmithred | my error says 'connection timed out' |
| 15:42.37 | fsmithred | worked second time |
| 15:42.37 | frabbit | fsmithred: but wouldnt that cause conection problmes with other internet connections too? |
| 15:43.08 | fsmithred | yeah, I have gotten a few of those recently |
| 15:43.13 | frabbit | cause i hadnt problems, only with apt update / apt-get update |
| 15:43.19 | fsmithred | ff can't find the site, I try again and it works |
| 15:43.55 | frabbit | ok but i tried over 20 minutes to update my packagelist, its the first thing i do after boot the computer |
| 15:44.23 | fsmithred | update works here with https |
| 15:44.36 | frabbit | fsmithred: yes it works now too as i said |
| 15:44.37 | fsmithred | if you install with a mirror, you don't need to update right after the install |
| 15:44.50 | fsmithred | if you install from the live isos, you should update |
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| 15:45.47 | frabbit | fsmithred: ehm what has this to do with the problem? |
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| 15:46.02 | fsmithred | it has to do with what you said |
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| 15:46.22 | fsmithred | just letting you know that the first thing you do might not be needed |
| 15:46.49 | frabbit | fsmithred: wait you talk about install =D |
| 15:47.14 | frabbit | i talked about updating my system everytime i boot the computer |
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| 15:47.38 | fsmithred | oh, I mis-read. |
| 15:47.48 | frabbit | fsmithred: as i thought but np ^^ |
| 15:48.00 | frabbit | im glad it works now again ^^ |
| 15:48.09 | fsmithred | lots of people coming in lately who just installed |
| 15:48.24 | frabbit | fsmithred: thats good to hear =) |
| 15:48.39 | frabbit | more people for devuan |
| 15:48.50 | fsmithred | beowulf beta isos were just released |
| 15:49.20 | frabbit | yeah i heard that last time i was here |
| 15:50.59 | furrywolf | is it ready for me to apt-get dist-upgrade without expecting breakage? |
| 15:51.23 | fsmithred | furrywolf, follow the upgrade guide. There are a couple of tricky spots. |
| 15:51.40 | fsmithred | on beta.devuan.org |
| 15:53.02 | frabbit | Beowulf 3.0.0 is our current stable release. that doesn't sounds like beta o0 |
| 15:53.33 | furrywolf | but it's on a beta. url. when the beta url becomes non-beta, that'll be correct. :) |
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| 15:53.59 | frabbit | furrywolf: k ^^ |
| 15:54.05 | frabbit | the stable beta then |
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| 15:55.54 | frabbit | good guide, sounds pretty easy |
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| 15:57.19 | furrywolf | shouldn't pre- and post- scripts stop and re-start services that have to be stopped during the upgrade? |
| 15:59.13 | furrywolf | failing to do so sounds like a fileable bug for xscreensaver |
| 16:00.31 | tponaf | why don't you people like systemd |
| 16:01.13 | tponaf | are you all nazis? |
| 16:01.38 | tponaf | sorry, being silly |
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| 16:03.30 | sixwheeledbeast | why does like matter? see #debianfork |
| 16:04.07 | tponaf | well you are kind of all nazis |
| 16:04.09 | tponaf | aren't you |
| 16:06.20 | fsmithred | furrywolf, I don't know what the deal is with xscreensaver. If you really want to be save, kill the desktop before upgrade. |
| 16:06.29 | fsmithred | save/safe |
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| 16:20.32 | furrywolf | I'm not running xscreensaver on this box... not sure if I am on the other two or not. |
| 16:24.23 | fsmithred | most of the upgrades I've done went smoothly |
| 16:24.57 | fsmithred | migrations from debian are more difficult |
| 16:26.35 | fsmithred | FWIW, I never upgrade my main system - I always do a fresh install on another partition and slowly move over to it. |
| 16:31.59 | golinux | Atari-Frosch: I was an avidemux user until they went to flatpak format and time instead oof frame editing in jessie. I installed wheezy version on jessie but that probably won;t work on later devuan releases. |
| 16:34.25 | fsmithred | golinux, have you tried olive yet? |
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| 16:35.47 | golinux | Nope. |
| 16:36.41 | golinux | I'm not into doing much on the computer atm |
| 16:37.23 | golinux | I have a list of things to-do for beowulf that remains untouched. |
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| 17:09.09 | Atari-Frosch | golinux: Do you know an alternative? |
| 17:10.26 | golinux | fsmithred has suggested olive but I haven't tried it since I'm not doing any video editing atm. |
| 17:10.29 | Atari-Frosch | What I do with it: re-encoding videos from cameras, encoding digitalized vhs videos (including cutting). |
| 17:11.16 | Atari-Frosch | Hm, OK, I will take a look. But not now, I need other software to run (again) first. ;-) |
| 17:11.16 | fsmithred | if you're using kde or other qt desktop, there's one in kde (kdenlive?) |
| 17:11.42 | Atari-Frosch | nope. Good old icewm. |
| 17:11.42 | fsmithred | if you just want to convert file formats, you can use ffmpeg |
| 17:12.09 | Atari-Frosch | fsmithred: that does not help me with cutting. I need to see what I am doing. |
| 17:12.51 | fsmithred | yeah, I get it. Take a look at olive. It's in the repo. So far, the only thing I've done with it is open a file and go through part of it one frame at a time. |
| 17:13.08 | Atari-Frosch | ok, thx |
| 17:13.11 | golinux | You could also try getting avidemux from stevepusser's repo at MX Linux |
| 17:13.50 | golinux | But it will still be time based and now in Qt (and fugly) |
| 17:14.03 | fsmithred | there are a few in repo... |
| 17:14.11 | fsmithred | apt-cache search 'video editor' |
| 17:15.01 | fsmithred | olive-editor is the correct package name |
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| 18:17.32 | ejr | hi. it is my understanding that devuan 2.1 is on par with debian stable, as far as package versions are concerned, right? |
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| 18:25.18 | HumanG33k | where is the script to migarte unit file to bash sysvinit script ? |
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| 18:27.02 | furrywolf | ejr: Devuan 3.0 is matched to debian stable. you can get it at https://beta.devuan.org/ |
| 18:28.15 | ejr | ah ok, but devuan 3.0, does it often break? |
| 18:29.25 | furrywolf | not from what I've heard. it's being rolled out as the current stable release right now, for a bit of final testing. |
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| 18:33.50 | hemimaniac | I've run it as my main for 2 months now, no hiccups |
| 18:36.19 | ejr | great, thank you. i will use it then |
| 18:41.55 | HumanG33k | furrywolf, on the main page the https://beta.devuan.org/os/debian-fork/stable-beowulf-announce link look dead |
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| 18:44.25 | furrywolf | HumanG33k: I'm not involved with the web page, but I'd assume that's because it's not finally released yet, and that will be written once it finally is, hopefully within a few days. |
| 18:45.29 | HumanG33k | yup |
| 18:49.05 | ejr | if I downloand and install the beta now and then do an apt-get update/upgrade in a week, I will be fine, basically running the stable version,right? |
| 18:49.31 | furrywolf | yep |
| 18:49.39 | furrywolf | the only changes at this point will be bug fixes. |
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| 19:21.05 | JTechno | hello, I'm getting "download is performed unsandboxed as root as file '/var/cache/apt/archives/partial/..." on a fresh install |
| 19:21.22 | JTechno | I've checked permissions and they seem correct for _apt |
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| 19:25.37 | Tenkawa | whats the current status of devuan on the pi4? |
| 19:26.37 | Tenkawa | seems to run great on the rpi3 |
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| 19:29.20 | Tenkawa | ahh think I found the image builder |
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| 19:41.16 | Tenkawa | well at least the kernel script and I can overlay that it looks like |
| 20:08.47 | frabbit | whoops totaly forgot i have irssi open ^^ |
| 20:10.23 | frabbit | whz not kicking that tponaf? |
| 20:10.29 | frabbit | *why |
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| 20:18.36 | fsmithred | JTechno, if you don't want to see that message, download packages as unpriv user. |
| 20:18.55 | fsmithred | (it's a normal message) |
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| 21:05.39 | JTechno | it actually was a permissions problem, / was 700 it has to be 755 |
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| 21:09.50 | Tenkawa | has anyone used the build_image_dist script to build an image? |
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| 21:11.23 | Tenkawa | I keep getting no valid distro specified even though I'm passing it load devuan raspi3 first |
| 21:14.04 | Tenkawa | I do successfully get the sdk load |
| 21:14.06 | Tenkawa | (*) arm-sdk loaded |
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| 21:17.44 | ShorTie | works ok on pi4 |
| 21:17.57 | ShorTie | gotta add kernel though |
| 21:19.54 | Tenkawa | ShorTie: yeah I'm trying to crosscompile... let me try from a pi |
| 21:20.19 | Tenkawa | mind if I msg you? (to get off chan) |
| 21:20.34 | ShorTie | sure |
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| 22:32.20 | fonky | hi |
| 22:32.36 | fonky | where is the dpkg list stored in /var |
| 22:32.40 | fonky | list of packages |
| 22:32.44 | fonky | broke system :) |
| 22:34.32 | rrq | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:35.21 | fonky | ty |
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| 23:01.05 | udo | %i18nde |
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| 23:19.22 | _abc_ | Hello. I do not see a /etc/init.d/dahdi in ascii, asterisk requires it. The packages for dahdi are installed. Does anyone know where it's start script lives? In which package? |
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| 23:38.09 | fsmithred | _abc_, maybe this? /usr/share/doc/dahdi/examples/init.conf.sample |
| 23:42.23 | _abc_ | fsmithred: did not think to look there. Thanks. |
| 23:43.39 | _abc_ | Ok, that is not an init.d startup file, just params |
| 23:43.57 | _abc_ | /usr/share/doc/dahdi/examples/50-asterisk is closer |
| 23:44.22 | _abc_ | nope |
| 23:45.52 | _abc_ | dahdi.ko is missing even though relevant packages are installed. |
| 23:47.51 | _abc_ | ascii is stretch? |
| 23:49.24 | _abc_ | I have no idea how to make dahdi work under ascii |
| 23:49.28 | _abc_ | Giving up. |
| 23:52.00 | fsmithred | yeah, ascii is stretch |
| 23:52.15 | fsmithred | did older versions have an init script? |
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