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13:43.47raphahi
13:44.26raphais it possible to migrate a Debian 9 system (that never had any 3rd-party repositories or packages) over to Devuan, and if so, what do i need to be mindful of?
13:44.55specingyou can make a snapshot and try
13:44.59gnarfaceyes, https://files.devuan.org/devuan_ascii/Release_notes.txt
13:45.03specingprobably not hard to do
13:46.07raphareads
13:46.37gnarfaceif you use a graphical login then pay special attention to the "### Session management and policykit backends" section
13:46.38fsmithredthere are migration guides, too
13:47.02raphaseems that for headless systems without network-manager it's pretty trivial
13:47.02gnarfacethere's a migration guide linked from the early part of the release notes
13:47.16gnarfaceit has been pretty trivial for me
13:47.32raphai think my main prob will be lack of free disk space; need to enlarge the LV first
13:48.24fsmithredhttps://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/migrate-to-ascii
13:49.14fsmithredplease don't run out of space in the middle of an upgrade. I did that a couple days ago and totally trashed the installation. (brand new install, no data loss)
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14:04.30raphaouch, sorry to hear that!
14:06.23cehtehrapha: i did that serveral times devand to debian, forth and back .. always worked well, but was mostly servers/containers never desktop environments, i would expect problems with heavyweight DE's
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14:20.51yetiI removed the DE and even Xorg before transgrading
14:20.58yetiremove, not purge
14:21.06yetito keep the configs
14:21.54yetikeeping the packages list at hand helps
14:24.07yetithe installed ones...
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14:30.05raphacehteh: oh! you here, too! :-D (sorry to hear about having to go back to Debian, though)
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14:33.22cehteh:)
14:34.34cehtehi am agnostic, i give systemd a chance where it works and have no patience with it when it does not
14:34.50cehtehoften enough things just dont work
14:38.19raphaSounds pragmatically sensible :)
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15:39.29lupin3rdanyone that have problem with deb repository today ??
15:39.49lupin3rdi have a lot of 403 errors
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16:01.04Evilhamlupin3rd: got a bit more details? it doesn't look like sth is terribly wrong on first sight
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16:39.21lupin3rdErr:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main amd64 samba amd64 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u2
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16:39.21lupin3rdErr:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 samba amd64 2:4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u2
16:39.21lupin3rd<PROTECTED>
16:39.21lupin3rdE: Failed to fetch http://deb.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/s/samba/samba_4.5.16+dfsg-1+deb9u2_amd64.deb  403  Forbidden [IP: 151.101.36.204 80]
16:40.41lupin3rdsorry !!! i found a configuration problem on my firewall :-D sorry!
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17:03.36Evilhamlupin3rd: great :-D
17:03.45Evilhamboth that you found the issue and that it wasn't us
17:04.09Evilhamthank you for reporting anyway, sometimes things do slip
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23:39.53sedroskenSo I know I've said this before, but the lack of topmenu stuff in the beowulf repos is kind of weird considering its in the ascii repos
23:43.26sedroskenhm, looking closer it's not in the Debian repos for Buster either
23:43.33sedroskenwonder if it's unmaintained these days or something
23:44.02sedroskennot a huge deal if I can't have it, I just have a ton of negative space in my panel
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