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| 04:57.34 | *** topic/#devuan is Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Jessie 1.0 old-stable, ASCII 2.1 stable) | | Conference (2019) https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/ | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ |
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| 12:14.40 | sethmhur | Hello |
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| 12:16.13 | sethmhur | I'm using the live cd fore accessibility. I can boot to the tty but can't confirm if sound or espeakup is working? How will I load this? I'm using the amd64 live cd on a laptop? |
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| 14:49.38 | nemo | Hum: Cylance as noted |
| 14:50.38 | nemo | Hum: the frustrating thing is they clearly are capable of handling different kernels since they deploy a hardcoded set of .ko files for ubuntu. They just can't be bothered to update their sources. |
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| 16:33.01 | krauser | Any idea on when beowulf will be released as the stable version? |
| 16:40.26 | nemo | krauser: fsmithred: said "soon" yesterday and also that it was safe for use, if he wouldn't recommend on servers |
| 16:40.59 | nemo | krauser: I upgraded my work laptop yesterday, and so far my only problem is with an awful crappy 3rd party .deb I am required to support to maintain the company rootkit |
| 16:42.57 | krauser | kk |
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| 16:50.27 | mason | nemo: FWIW, I'm running Beowulf on servers. All this means is that it works unproblematically for my use cases. |
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| 17:01.29 | golinux | nemo: It's the beowulf desktop and GUI stuff that still might have issues |
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| 17:06.16 | James1138 | Question. Although my programming skills are non-existant compared to others on this chat... is there anything guys like me (I do not mean old farts like me) can do to help get the Beowulf ISO out? |
| 17:06.39 | mason | FWIW, we've got Beowulf on three desktop systems here. The only obnoxious glitch so far is that occasionally one of the systems has to switch virtual consoles off of X and back on to wake up. |
| 17:07.19 | mason | James1138: This stuff would be useful: https://wiki.debian.org/Packaging |
| 17:09.26 | James1138 | Thanks Mason, What stuff would need packaging? Do not want to needlessly duplicate someone's else work. |
| 17:10.18 | mason | James1138: You could look through here: http://bugs.devuan.org/ |
| 17:10.47 | James1138 | ok |
| 17:13.22 | James1138 | Mason... how does a person view a list on the bug tracking page? Is there some wildcard like *.*?? |
| 17:14.06 | mason | https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/pkgindex.cgi?indexon=pkg is an example |
| 17:14.39 | James1138 | thanx again mason |
| 17:14.50 | mason | Happy to help. |
| 17:15.42 | James1138 | will look at that in detail tonight. |
| 17:21.01 | debdog | l |
| 17:21.05 | debdog | oops |
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| 18:16.06 | xrogaan | golinux: actually, beowulf solved some issues on my Desktop. |
| 18:16.42 | xrogaan | xfce+slim+consolekit works pretty well now. Except for the xdg runtime variable not being populated. |
| 18:16.49 | mason | xrogaan: My big push for upgrading to it is that the ASCII vlc didn't work for some of my media. |
| 18:17.17 | xrogaan | Gotta go sleep. Cya; |
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| 19:46.49 | interorw | \o good afternoon |
| 19:49.07 | interorw | so I read about devuan and excited to try it, have it installed and running on my laptop but trying to add blueman GNU from Synaptic Package Manager and it keeps asking for a cdrom... is there some way I can just force it to download from a repo like normal? not having much luck trying to mount my flash drive as a mountable cdrom it can detect |
| 19:49.48 | interorw | it seems how it would ask to install from cdrom vs the internet/network too |
| 19:50.45 | interorw | it seems odd* |
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| 19:56.01 | mason | interorw: You probably still have the cdrom source in /etc/apt/sources.list and need to remove it. |
| 19:56.23 | mason | interorw: see https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:57.02 | interorw | that was it thx mason |
| 19:57.31 | mason | happy to help |
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| 20:00.29 | interorw | mason maybe is 1 last thing could help me with, initally I was able to search and find blueman thru synaptic package manager now its not showing up at all as an option to download/install or otherwise - i tried removing bluetooth in general to see if i could remove it and add back just 'bluetooth' but after removing ti from Synapic Package Manager its now not showing up in the search results to add it back |
| 20:00.53 | interorw | so I can't find blueman or bluetooth now in Synaptic Package Manger but other things show up, any ideas ? |
| 20:02.12 | mason | interorw: See about refreshing after you've changed your sources.list. I have an ASCII box that shows a bunch of those packages as being available: https://bpaste.net/XQBQ |
| 20:02.39 | mason | I don't use Synaptic, but I wouldn't expect it to show you a modified list. |
| 20:04.02 | interorw | hm maybe my source list is missing any type of public mirrors to use |
| 20:04.14 | interorw | i just went with default install so figured it would at least have that by default |
| 20:05.22 | interorw | yup i think thats it don't rly see any listed except an commented ascii security repo |
| 20:05.27 | interorw | weird... not very useful like that lol |
| 20:06.51 | mason | interorw: https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list will help |
| 20:07.19 | interorw | thx |
| 20:07.42 | interorw | any idea why these aren't added by default? seems silly to have everyone manually add them lol |
| 20:07.59 | interorw | every other linux distro i know of / used always has default public repo mirrors |
| 20:12.59 | mason | interorw: Not sure! |
| 20:13.39 | interorw | mm yeah maybe it was just my install that went odd, am hoping everyone elses isn't like that by default at least |
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| 20:13.55 | interorw | either way other than a few oddities like that its an awesome distro looks like |
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| 20:20.38 | interorw | mason, just curious but on this distro what do you use in place of Synaptic or you just manually install packages as needed? |
| 20:25.28 | mason | interorw: For Devuan I mostly use apt. I mostly install with debootstrap. fsmithred has turned me onto debugging some issues with aptitude. |
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| 20:28.59 | golinux | interorw: Not all of those source options are needed. Make sure that your sources.list points to deb.devuan.org |
| 20:29.42 | golinux | Synaptic is available in a default desktop install. |
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| 20:32.15 | Hum | is there any simple table with Debian - Devuan Release names? |
| 20:36.50 | golinux | Hum: https://devuan.org/os/releases |
| 20:37.44 | Hum | golinux: thx, I didn't find it |
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| 20:48.43 | filipdevuan_ | hey devuan was first systemd-free distro i used for 6 months it was good, then migrated to others currently i am using void linux and hyperbola but i consider going back to Devuan though, i am not sure if it's really worth it.. |
| 20:48.59 | filipdevuan_ | Is downloading the 4GB DVD iso the only option for usb stick installation?? |
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| 20:59.39 | gnu_srs | filipdevuan_: You can always install Devuan netinst ascii version and upgrade to beowulf. |
| 21:01.25 | Hum | filipdevuan_: Maybe it is not up to date, https://friendsofdevuan.org/doku.php/user:hum_upgrading_from_ascii_to_beowulf |
| 21:03.28 | filipdevuan_ | so it is mandatory to use beowulf now?? |
| 21:03.29 | filipdevuan_ | ;P |
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| 21:06.47 | Hum | filipdevuan_: It is possible. |
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| 21:15.04 | golinux | filipdevuan_: There are no beowulf isos yet |
| 21:15.46 | golinux | You will find the latest documentation at devuan.org The wiki may be out-of-date |
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| 21:17.12 | golinux | There are several links about 1/2 way down this page https://devuan.org/get-devuan and also on the index page. |
| 21:20.44 | filipdevuan_ | ok tnx |
| 21:20.45 | filipdevuan_ | :) |
| 21:21.11 | filipdevuan_ | yeah it will be exciting to be using devuan again... |
| 21:22.11 | golinux | filipdevuan_: Welcome back to the campfire . . . |
| 21:23.56 | filipdevuan_ | yeah :PPP |
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| 21:36.59 | filipdevuan_ | ok so netinst will probably use less than 4,4GB??? |
| 21:38.03 | filipdevuan_ | it's probably more reasonable to download netinst if i have got internet connection |
| 21:39.34 | golinux | netinstall only has the base system on the iso. It pulls everything else from the net. |
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| 21:40.58 | golinux | It's maybe 350 MB |
| 21:41.19 | filipdevuan_ | but everything it pulls from the net is the same amount of dvd iso??? |
| 21:41.46 | filipdevuan_ | or there is a list what to choose to get? |
| 21:41.47 | golinux | Depends what you choose to install |
| 21:41.53 | filipdevuan_ | oh, ok great :) |
| 21:41.54 | filipdevuan_ | thanks |
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| 23:14.40 | cynicfm | Hey im having problem with apt get after fresh imstallation |
| 23:15.12 | cynicfm | I unchecked the # in sources list the apt get updare command connects to internet but it jjst wont download anything |
| 23:15.21 | cynicfm | Update* pls help |
| 23:15.46 | cynicfm | It says waiting for headers |
| 23:15.59 | cynicfm | 4000B/s network speed |
| 23:16.06 | cynicfm | Wont update ;/ |
| 23:16.38 | golinux | Are you using deb.devuan.org in your sources list? |
| 23:17.03 | cynicfm | Yes... The connection speed is very slow though |
| 23:17.09 | cynicfm | 2000 bytes per second |
| 23:17.16 | golinux | http or https? |
| 23:17.21 | cynicfm | http |
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| 23:18.13 | cynicfm | Ill wait till it sync with sources list |
| 23:18.16 | golinux | Disconnect and try again. It's a round-robin of servers and you might have caught on updating |
| 23:18.27 | cynicfm | Ok |
| 23:21.25 | cynicfm | When i was imstalling devuan by netinst it got stuck in configuring apt as well |
| 23:22.44 | cynicfm | Same stuff net connectiom is very slow |
| 23:22.45 | golinux | Are you wired? |
| 23:23.01 | cynicfm | I use usb tethering from crapphone |
| 23:23.14 | cynicfm | usb0 |
| 23:23.31 | cynicfm | Smartphone i mean |
| 23:23.32 | golinux | That's beyond my scope of experience. Sorry |
| 23:23.40 | cynicfm | Ok no worries |
| 23:23.51 | cynicfm | Hmm perhaps i should try wireless instead |
| 23:23.57 | golinux | I don't have one. Probably never will. Refuse to play that game. |
| 23:24.02 | cynicfm | No idea how to set it up on Debiam though |
| 23:24.21 | cynicfm | Yeah i do have one only to be able to use net on laptop |
| 23:24.33 | cynicfm | Ok tnx ill try to find solutiom |
| 23:24.43 | golinux | Me either. I'm wired all the time. Very old -fashioned |
| 23:25.26 | golinux | Just be sure any firmware is installed if needed |
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| 23:46.10 | cynicfm | Ok it was something from my side had to reboot crapphone its ok now :) |
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| 23:58.09 | golinux | cynicfm: Happy to hear you worked it out |
| 23:59.16 | cynicfm | I am happy too, you were right about restarting connection |