| 00:02.38 | *** join/#devuan ukine (~ukine@70.127.72.135) |
| 00:03.37 | *** join/#devuan ukine (~ukine@70.127.72.135) |
| 00:04.24 | *** join/#devuan ukine (~ukine@70.127.72.135) |
| 00:09.28 | *** join/#devuan rdav (~rdav@245.184-26-211.sta.nsw.iprimus.net.au) |
| 00:16.44 | *** join/#devuan Xenguy (~Xenguy@devuan/community/Xenguy) |
| 00:24.32 | Starbeamrainbowl | Indeed! |
| 00:50.44 | *** join/#devuan ball37 (480cfa8d@72.12.250.141) |
| 00:51.09 | ball37 | Anyone know why nobody is seeding the devuan_ascii torrent? |
| 00:52.20 | ball37 | I guess I'll look for an http link |
| 00:53.09 | fsmithred | files.devuan.org |
| 00:53.13 | fsmithred | for isos |
| 00:54.13 | fsmithred | ball37, here's the mirror list: https://devuan.org/get-devuan |
| 00:54.23 | ball37 | yeah, I'm downliading a 1G file... |
| 00:54.32 | ball37 | Just noting that the torrents don't work |
| 00:54.49 | fsmithred | I think that will be fixed soon |
| 00:55.14 | fsmithred | 1G... desktop-live? |
| 00:55.14 | ball37 | cool. I'm going to try katoolin on the desktop live and see how that goes (downloads kali set) |
| 00:55.19 | ball37 | yeah |
| 00:55.27 | fsmithred | huh? |
| 00:55.42 | ball37 | https://github.com/LionSec/katoolin |
| 00:55.51 | fsmithred | for which debian suite is it? |
| 00:55.55 | fsmithred | buster? |
| 00:56.27 | ball37 | bulleye I think |
| 00:57.16 | fsmithred | oy |
| 00:57.22 | fsmithred | ok, be patient |
| 00:57.30 | fsmithred | only ascii isos now |
| 00:57.41 | fsmithred | ascii=stretch |
| 00:57.45 | fsmithred | beowulf=buster |
| 00:57.52 | fsmithred | chimaera=bullseye |
| 00:58.07 | fsmithred | we're in the process of getting beowulf isos ready |
| 00:58.33 | fsmithred | we don't have a chimaera repo yet to merge bullseye, but that will happen soon |
| 00:58.48 | ball37 | ok, so I should wait? |
| 00:59.00 | fsmithred | well, this is an experiment, right? |
| 00:59.35 | fsmithred | well, if it's bullseye, you will have to wait |
| 01:00.05 | fsmithred | do they say which ubuntu they tested it on? |
| 01:00.54 | ball37 | well I use bt5 as a router in a vm, which is based on ubuntu Lucid |
| 01:01.08 | ball37 | which is really old and doesn't fully support some hardware I have |
| 01:02.06 | ball37 | tried back-porting the driver but that didn't work |
| 01:02.42 | ball37 | I appreciate all the work BTW |
| 01:03.06 | fsmithred | I just lost sound. I wanted to watch the video. |
| 01:03.41 | ball37 | ? |
| 01:04.02 | fsmithred | there's a link to a video on the katoolin page |
| 01:04.19 | ball37 | oh |
| 01:04.23 | *** join/#devuan kelsoo (~kelsoo@dragora/developer/kelsoo) |
| 01:05.07 | ball37 | That audio is just some euroweenie techno |
| 01:07.09 | fsmithred | well, in this case... |
| 01:07.17 | fsmithred | speaker wasn't plugged in |
| 01:08.15 | fsmithred | works now |
| 01:10.12 | ball37 | Has anyone tried just deleting systemd from the debian distros? |
| 01:10.28 | ball37 | meaning after installing debian |
| 01:10.33 | fsmithred | vivid in the video |
| 01:10.50 | ball37 | ? |
| 01:11.02 | fsmithred | yes, antix uses debian without systemd, but they have a repo of packages that have been scrubbed |
| 01:11.09 | fsmithred | similar to what we do |
| 01:11.13 | ball37 | ah |
| 01:11.31 | fsmithred | you might be able to do it with a very lean system |
| 01:11.36 | fsmithred | but I'm not sure |
| 01:11.52 | fsmithred | haven't tried that since jessie |
| 01:11.55 | ball37 | all I use is a few konsoles |
| 01:15.19 | ball37 | looks like its based on buster |
| 01:16.27 | fsmithred | I've got some beowulf-based Refracta isos you could try |
| 01:17.17 | *** join/#devuan xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 01:17.20 | fsmithred | https://get.refracta.org/files/testing/ |
| 01:21.58 | fsmithred | vivid uses 3.19 kernel - that was jessie |
| 01:22.48 | ball37 | antiX looks good if it works, given I run it out of a VM |
| 01:24.08 | fsmithred | I'm gonna try katoolin. Looks like it only takes a few minutes. |
| 01:34.16 | *** join/#devuan cynicfm (~cynicfm@public-gprs386848.centertel.pl) |
| 01:43.58 | fsmithred | ball37, it seems to be working. I'm installing stuff. |
| 01:44.17 | fsmithred | not all the packages are available |
| 01:44.18 | cynicfm | hey, may i ask here what devuaners think about Gentoo???? |
| 01:44.48 | ball37 | fsmithred are you referring to katoolin on devuan buster? |
| 01:45.20 | fsmithred | on devuan beowulf (actually a refracta live iso in vm) |
| 01:46.49 | MinceR | gentoo is nice but i've seen portage fail already |
| 01:46.50 | fsmithred | looks like you have to select each tool to install it. The option to install all in a category doesn't work if any of the packages are missing. |
| 01:47.16 | MinceR | (but then again, i've seen APT fuck up as well) |
| 01:47.21 | cynicfm | MinceR: sorry i have used Devuan for some time, but i am new to Gentoo, what do you mean portage fail again?? It has failed you?? |
| 01:47.31 | fsmithred | beyond nice, gentoo is a great distribution, because you can do anything the way you want |
| 01:47.44 | fsmithred | I don't have the patience for it |
| 01:48.17 | MinceR | i had an install of a gentoo-based distro where after a period of not updating portage decided that nothing needed to be upgraded even though the portage tree was updated |
| 01:48.20 | cynicfm | what i personally find with distributions like Devuan for exmaple is that they're so good to the point they're boring cuz i don't know how to learn new things when im there ;/ |
| 01:48.43 | cynicfm | right... |
| 01:48.46 | MinceR | i wish i had access to an OS that was so good as to be boring |
| 01:48.59 | fsmithred | when I switched to debian, I considered gentoo for the same reason I switched to debian - very big repo |
| 01:49.11 | cynicfm | well i have used Hyperbola Gnu/Linux for a while and it is really good, but it's 100% libre... |
| 01:49.12 | fsmithred | and yeah, devuan and debian are boring |
| 01:49.15 | fsmithred | it's a feature |
| 01:49.20 | cynicfm | :P |
| 01:49.23 | MinceR | debian is no longer boring |
| 01:49.35 | fsmithred | true |
| 01:49.42 | MinceR | every boot and every shutdown is a game of russian roulette |
| 01:50.13 | fsmithred | I remember her the way she was |
| 01:50.18 | furrywolf | heh, this box crashes on hibernate about 1 in 6 times... |
| 01:50.23 | cynicfm | i had that russian roulette when i used Arch Linux |
| 01:50.39 | furrywolf | however, I believe it to be the kernel's fault. :) |
| 01:51.20 | erhandsoME[m] | if you want stablity go for boring |
| 01:51.46 | cynicfm | i want to learn new things |
| 01:52.17 | cynicfm | maybe gentoo will teach me something... |
| 01:52.28 | cynicfm | anyways sorry i should go on devuan-chat or something |
| 01:53.13 | cynicfm | #debianfork it is, ok thanks :) |
| 01:53.32 | erhandsoME[m] | you don't need to tear your house to do something else |
| 01:54.22 | cynicfm | i am quite new to Linux, i suppose i still learn things for beginner although i still keep trying new distributions, Gentoo is one of them... I have used devuan for about 8 months before this |
| 01:54.55 | cynicfm | is there any way of installing devuan without erasing whole HDD?? |
| 01:55.07 | MinceR | there are ways |
| 01:55.30 | cynicfm | ok cool, thanks ;) |
| 01:55.38 | cynicfm | I'll find out how haha, cheers have a good day |
| 01:55.52 | MinceR | for example, running it in a VM; installing it on free space alongside the HDD that has an existing OS; installing it on a second(/etc.) SSD/HDD; installing it on a removable storage device |
| 01:56.32 | cynicfm | ohh u mean installing it on usbstick?? |
| 01:56.50 | cynicfm | like a live session?? |
| 01:57.22 | specing | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=14462#p14462 |
| 01:57.53 | specing | you could do the formatting on a dummy usb stick, or somehow skip it and then use ^ |
| 01:58.13 | specing | debian/devuan becomes painful once you want to deviate from the norm |
| 02:00.56 | fsmithred | there's a wide variety of norms |
| 02:08.31 | *** join/#devuan nyov (~nyov@unaffiliated/nyov) |
| 02:10.28 | fsmithred | ball37, you still here? Seems to be working. I've installed at least a dozen packages with no complaints, but I'm about to run out of space in this vm. |
| 02:10.57 | ball37 | cool |
| 02:11.15 | fsmithred | I'm just running a live iso. |
| 02:11.50 | fsmithred | if I knew more about these tools I might actually install in a vm and then make a live iso of that |
| 02:12.24 | fsmithred | probably need to give the mv 20G or more. |
| 02:12.28 | fsmithred | mv |
| 02:12.31 | fsmithred | damn |
| 02:12.35 | fsmithred | VM |
| 02:19.14 | *** join/#devuan wyatt8740 (~wyatt8740@194.36.110.204) |
| 02:29.01 | MinceR | cynicfm: yes, that would be one method |
| 02:29.34 | cynicfm | Yes |
| 02:32.57 | *** join/#devuan Centurion_Dan (~Thunderbi@devuan/developer/centuriondan) |
| 03:11.40 | *** join/#devuan asthralios (markizano@2600:3c00::f03c:91ff:fec8:382d) |
| 03:42.24 | fsmithred | I'm going to lose my connection for a minute (I hope) brb |
| 03:45.57 | *** join/#devuan Nefertari (~Nefertiti@unaffiliated/nefertiti) |
| 03:48.52 | *** join/#devuan m3tti (~m3tti@x2f4ac51.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 03:59.16 | *** join/#devuan fsmithred (~fsmithred@devuan/developer/fsmithred) |
| 03:59.23 | *** join/#devuan D-HUND (~debdog@2a00:79c0:666:7200:7a24:afff:fe8a:d04d) |
| 04:30.20 | *** join/#devuan wyatt8750 (~wyatt8740@194.36.110.204) |
| 04:48.02 | *** join/#devuan cehteh (~cehteh@i59F4B149.versanet.de) |
| 04:52.00 | *** join/#devuan lyubov (~lyubov@172-3-143-10.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:01.02 | *** join/#devuan lyubov (~lyubov@172-3-143-10.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:35.32 | *** join/#devuan DocScrutinizer05 (~saturn@openmoko/engineers/joerg) |
| 05:36.04 | *** join/#devuan Centurion_Dan (~Thunderbi@devuan/developer/centuriondan) |
| 05:36.20 | *** join/#devuan xrogaan (~xrogaan@unaffiliated/xrogaan) |
| 06:04.06 | *** join/#devuan nexgen (~nexgen@144.172.68.147) |
| 06:05.36 | *** join/#devuan pekman (~pekman@unaffiliated/pekman) |
| 06:21.05 | *** join/#devuan nexgen (~nexgen@144.172.68.147) |
| 06:30.57 | *** join/#devuan xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 07:10.15 | *** join/#devuan xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 07:23.04 | *** join/#devuan retak (~ite@2a01:c22:d443:300:f2de:f1ff:feb2:f9aa) |
| 07:55.42 | *** join/#devuan Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali) |
| 08:23.21 | *** join/#devuan sardonico (ale@94.247.40.156) |
| 08:42.59 | *** join/#devuan xeriab (~xeriab@134.35.83.221) |
| 09:20.28 | *** join/#devuan rdav (~rdav@110.193.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au) |
| 09:38.07 | *** join/#devuan cocoadaemon (~foo@36.161.2.109.rev.sfr.net) |
| 09:42.06 | *** join/#devuan Acacia (~Acacia@unaffiliated/acacia) |
| 09:58.19 | *** join/#devuan xeriab (~xeriab@94.26.221.97) |
| 10:01.19 | *** join/#devuan arnoldoree (~arnoldore@ranoldoree.plus.com) |
| 11:16.32 | *** join/#devuan mhc (~Error0@106-68-121-105.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 11:19.59 | *** join/#devuan Burek (~Burek@unaffiliated/burekzfinezt) |
| 11:35.12 | *** join/#devuan cynicfm (~filip@public-gprs395179.centertel.pl) |
| 11:44.49 | *** join/#devuan blah_ (~blah@94.244.113.99) |
| 11:54.14 | *** join/#devuan ukine1 (~ukine@70.127.72.135) |
| 12:40.55 | *** join/#devuan beurs (~beurs@202-138-045-062.dynamic.caiway.nl) |
| 13:08.30 | beurs | what's the default devuan password? |
| 13:09.07 | onefang | From memory the default root password for Devuan is toor. |
| 13:09.15 | beurs | thx |
| 13:09.33 | beurs | yep, root - toor |
| 13:10.00 | onefang | Nothing wrong with my memo ... what where we talking about? |
| 13:21.55 | fsmithred | devuan/devuan, root/toor |
| 13:22.26 | onefang | Ah, I HAD forgotten something. lol |
| 13:24.39 | beurs | devuan/devuan doesn't work here |
| 13:27.58 | fsmithred | where are you? |
| 13:28.19 | fsmithred | live isos use the passwords I posted |
| 13:28.42 | beurs | yeah okay, not using a live distro |
| 13:28.56 | fsmithred | what are you using? |
| 13:28.59 | beurs | disk image |
| 13:29.09 | fsmithred | ah, ok. Maybe there's no user? |
| 13:29.17 | beurs | no prob, i got root :P |
| 13:29.21 | fsmithred | or luther? |
| 13:29.34 | *** join/#devuan Akuli (~akuli@mobile-access-bcee75-148.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 13:29.39 | onefang | With root you can solve the other password problem. |
| 13:29.43 | beurs | yep |
| 13:29.59 | *** join/#devuan Xenguy (~Xenguy@devuan/community/Xenguy) |
| 13:31.58 | fsmithred | ball37, too bad you left |
| 13:41.21 | *** join/#devuan Defender1031 (~DeFender1@109-186-207-245.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 13:41.41 | *** join/#devuan ukine (~ukine@6532180hfc247.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 13:49.37 | *** join/#devuan HumanGeek (~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8) |
| 13:50.55 | *** join/#devuan HumanGeek (~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8) |
| 13:51.08 | *** join/#devuan targz (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/targz) |
| 13:55.08 | *** join/#devuan xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 14:09.44 | *** join/#devuan justinsm (~justinsm@82-69-63-196.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 14:36.17 | *** join/#devuan _0bitcount (~Big_Byte@90.162.105.206) |
| 14:41.47 | *** join/#devuan telst4r (~Jukka@dys-v6ygw2nrs--3t-27t-3.rev.dnainternet.fi) |
| 14:50.07 | *** join/#devuan kelsoo (~kelsoo@dragora/developer/kelsoo) |
| 14:51.05 | *** join/#devuan Kruppt (~Kruppt@50.111.52.202) |
| 15:06.31 | *** join/#devuan epergny (~user@92.190.247.5) |
| 15:07.58 | epergny | is anyone running the latest Devuan on some AMD Ryzen Zen 2 rig? (like a 3700x/3800x/3900x) Anything particular to do to make it work or does it work out of the box? |
| 15:10.51 | *** join/#devuan lyubov (~lyubov@172-3-143-10.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:11.43 | gnarface | epergny: if it doesn't work, installing the kernel from ascii-backports should |
| 15:12.06 | gnarface | shouldn't need anything special afaik except just a new enough kernel. i'm not sure if the stock ascii one is new enough |
| 15:12.26 | gnarface | you can test from a live image to find out though |
| 15:23.37 | *** join/#devuan rsx (~rsx@ppp-188-174-133-153.dynamic.mnet-online.de) |
| 15:27.37 | epergny | gnarface: ah tyvm, good to know. Don't have an AMD Ryzen Zen 2 though: asking before buying : ) |
| 15:29.26 | *** join/#devuan furrywolf (~furrywolf@172.58.92.23) |
| 15:34.52 | *** join/#devuan tarbz2 (~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/targz) |
| 15:43.57 | gnarface | epergny: hang out, it's a slow channel but i know some other people in here do have them. |
| 15:50.36 | fsmithred | epergny, did you try booting the desktop-live? Or any iso? |
| 15:59.10 | *** join/#devuan HumanGeek (~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8) |
| 16:00.00 | fsmithred | oh, I finally read to the end. If you end up needing to boot with a newer kernel, I have a live iso with the ascii-backports kernel. |
| 16:00.20 | fsmithred | or maybe there will be beowulf isos by the time you buy it. (betas) |
| 16:00.48 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 16:01.31 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox1 (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 16:01.48 | *** join/#devuan HumanGeek (~HumanG33k@62.147.242.8) |
| 16:01.59 | DonkeyHotei | epergny: for zen2 you need at least a 5.0 kernel |
| 16:03.43 | fsmithred | ok, bpo won't be new enough |
| 16:06.58 | gnarface | bpo isn't up to that yet? |
| 16:07.21 | gnarface | oh, i guess not, it is only 4.19 |
| 16:07.24 | fsmithred | ascii-backports has |
| 16:07.25 | fsmithred | yeah |
| 16:07.35 | fsmithred | I'm about to check buster-backports |
| 16:07.58 | furrywolf | speaking of beowulf, is it reasonably safe to upgrade to it yet? I have two ascii boxes that could use newer non-bpo software. |
| 16:08.07 | fsmithred | 5.3 |
| 16:08.15 | furrywolf | icewm on this one, xfce on the other. |
| 16:08.53 | fsmithred | ceres has 5.4 |
| 16:09.29 | fsmithred | I've upgraded xfce and it's not bad |
| 16:09.35 | gnarface | epergny: oh, i guess you need a much newer kernel than ascii-backports, but you can get it from ceres or you can build it yourself. let me know if you need help |
| 16:10.44 | fsmithred | beowulf with buster-backports kernel should work |
| 16:11.30 | *** join/#devuan Pali (~pali@Maemo/community/contributor/Pali) |
| 16:11.30 | gnarface | a custom 5.3 kernel build is working fine for me in ascii but that is on aarch64 |
| 16:11.50 | *** join/#devuan telst4r (~Jukka@fsf/member/telst4r) |
| 16:12.06 | fsmithred | furrywolf, you'll probably get some arguments at the end about elogind. Beat it with a hammer and it will eventually upgrade the last ones. |
| 16:12.25 | fsmithred | apt is afraid to remove lsd0 |
| 16:13.56 | furrywolf | I'll start with the xfce box... it's just used for playing music at work, and breaking is acceptable for that. |
| 16:14.12 | furrywolf | mostly I'm hoping newer x fixes the horrible memory leak that box has |
| 16:14.33 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@200.68.141.8) |
| 16:32.16 | *** join/#devuan g4570n (~g4570n@unaffiliated/g4570n) |
| 16:46.05 | *** join/#devuan ymasson (~ymasson@90.50.0.182) |
| 17:07.07 | *** join/#devuan lyubov (~lyubov@128.218.43.252) |
| 17:21.29 | *** join/#devuan cocoadaemon (~foo@2a01:e0a:4e1:97e0:179d:1cc6:8854:4d5c) |
| 17:28.58 | *** join/#devuan jathan (~jathan@fixed-187-189-102-177.totalplay.net) |
| 17:38.17 | *** join/#devuan DonkeyHotei (uW3tPUvj@april-fools/2014/runnerup/danielg4) |
| 17:48.14 | *** join/#devuan xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 18:03.38 | *** join/#devuan cynicfm (~fifi@public-gprs395179.centertel.pl) |
| 18:12.25 | *** join/#devuan poontangmessiah (~poontangm@unaffiliated/poontangmessiah) |
| 18:24.50 | *** join/#devuan skipshooter (~markie@157.157.87.141) |
| 18:31.00 | *** join/#devuan cynicfm (~fifi@public-gprs395179.centertel.pl) |
| 18:33.03 | *** join/#devuan DonkeyHotei (m3zpY@april-fools/2014/runnerup/danielg4) |
| 18:35.30 | *** join/#devuan cd (~cd@unaffiliated/cd) |
| 18:37.02 | *** join/#devuan DonkeyHotei (s5mtczZ@april-fools/2014/runnerup/danielg4) |
| 18:41.33 | *** join/#devuan cynicfm (~filip@public-gprs395179.centertel.pl) |
| 18:44.51 | *** join/#devuan poontangmessiah (~poontangm@unaffiliated/poontangmessiah) |
| 19:01.33 | *** join/#devuan petzi (~petzi@p578b3438.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:06.15 | *** join/#devuan Hurgotron (~Hurgotron@kabelmarder.de) |
| 19:19.02 | *** join/#devuan proteus-guy (~proteus-l@cm-58-10-208-146.revip7.asianet.co.th) |
| 19:21.53 | *** join/#devuan Centurion-Dan2 (~Thunderbi@devuan/developer/centuriondan) |
| 19:29.04 | *** join/#devuan cynicfm (~filip@public-gprs395179.centertel.pl) |
| 19:33.37 | *** join/#devuan aaro (aaro@gateway/shell/xshellz/x-xquhvuzvjhvdzyhv) |
| 19:38.19 | *** join/#devuan xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 19:41.02 | *** join/#devuan cocoadaemon (~foo@2a01:e0a:4e1:97e0:179d:1cc6:8854:4d5c) |
| 19:43.37 | *** join/#devuan wildjames3 (~wildjames@145.87.225.116) |
| 19:46.40 | *** join/#devuan rdav (~rdav@110.193.150.122.sta.dodo.net.au) |
| 19:58.25 | *** join/#devuan xrogaan (~xrogaan@unaffiliated/xrogaan) |
| 20:02.20 | *** join/#devuan Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 20:03.38 | *** join/#devuan Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 20:21.19 | *** join/#devuan atta (~sgrs@185.112.146.78) |
| 20:31.06 | *** part/#devuan atta (~sgrs@185.112.146.78) |
| 20:34.19 | *** join/#devuan ErRandir (~mhabets@81.168.73.77) |
| 20:52.44 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 20:53.27 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox1 (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 20:57.53 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 20:58.00 | *** join/#devuan wdcbb (~wdcbb@160-2-76-45.cpe.sparklight.net) |
| 20:58.01 | *** join/#devuan xcm (~xcm@ipa210.225.tellas.gr) |
| 21:00.04 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox1 (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 21:00.55 | *** join/#devuan linearain (~linearain@78-60-110-219.static.zebra.lt) |
| 21:01.08 | linearain | hi, whats so bad with sytemd that debian had to fork? |
| 21:05.20 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 21:07.31 | Akuli | linearain, the answers you get will depend a lot on which devuan user is answering. i guess one big thing is that systemd doesn't follow the "do one thing and do it well" philosophy, and does more things than a traditional init program does |
| 21:07.56 | golinux | groans and suggest that <linearain> takes it to #debianfork with <Akuli> |
| 21:08.02 | Akuli | :D |
| 21:08.07 | linearain | i see. |
| 21:10.26 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 21:12.37 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox1 (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 21:14.24 | *** join/#devuan omnio (~omnio@82.137.10.226) |
| 21:17.35 | *** join/#devuan AntoFox (~Thunderbi@dynamic-adsl-84-220-218-91.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 21:17.58 | *** join/#devuan Shentino (~shentino@unaffiliated/shentino) |
| 21:18.31 | *** join/#devuan poontangmessiah (~poontangm@unaffiliated/poontangmessiah) |
| 21:22.16 | *** join/#devuan Jjp137 (~Jjp137@cpe-75-83-16-81.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 21:45.47 | *** join/#devuan shibboleth (~shibbolet@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth) |
| 22:01.54 | *** join/#devuan ukine (~ukine@70.127.92.197) |
| 22:01.55 | *** part/#devuan ukine (~ukine@70.127.92.197) |
| 22:02.08 | *** join/#devuan ukine (~ukine@70.127.92.197) |
| 22:32.53 | *** join/#devuan Oldmoss (~Oldmoss@anon-42-217.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 23:09.06 | *** join/#devuan Uberius (~Uberius@gateway/tor-sasl/uberius) |
| 23:20.25 | *** join/#devuan ukine (~ukine@072-184-215-139.res.spectrum.com) |
| 23:20.56 | *** join/#devuan jelly-home (jelly@pdpc/supporter/active/jelly) |
| 23:25.03 | *** join/#devuan fleeky (~fleeky@2601:241:8001:2e3a:d5e:d90c:beef:e1a1) |
| 23:25.12 | *** join/#devuan IoFran (~Thunderbi@200.68.140.32) |
| 23:34.37 | *** join/#devuan rdav (~rdav@245.184-26-211.sta.nsw.iprimus.net.au) |
| 23:42.21 | *** join/#devuan sorgain (~morra@5.170.242.54) |
| 23:42.49 | *** part/#devuan sorgain (~morra@5.170.242.54) |
| 23:44.19 | *** join/#devuan AndyGB (~AndyGB@americano.street.me.uk) |