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| 02:04.33 | Xenguy | So I installed Ascii on a laptop a few days ago, and there was no Net connection, and I chose 'Do not config network right now', or some such option... |
| 02:05.32 | Xenguy | I've never tried that before, and going forward after the base system is installed turns out to be a bit hard, network-wise... |
| 02:06.31 | Xenguy | I also noticed that with a default/base install, if you try doing 'man interfaces', it is missing (not sure if any man pages are installed with the base install; this man page wasn't) |
| 02:08.24 | Xenguy | All I can figure is that if I was in that base install state with no network config, I'd need to first modify /etc/network/interfaces (w/e file it is), and configure it for a wired connection, then install MATE and wicd would manage the wireless. |
| 02:09.02 | Xenguy | But with no man page available, I'd need to have another networked PC to look that up online, which is not the most elegant situation |
| 02:11.02 | Xenguy | So, an inconvenient use case, there you have it |
| 02:13.00 | specing | Xenguy: it helps to know a few invocations of ifconfig/iproute2 |
| 02:13.33 | Xenguy | specing: What, just ifup eth0, or ...? |
| 02:13.41 | specing | no |
| 02:14.04 | Xenguy | ah |
| 02:14.05 | specing | ifup is the interfaces machinery |
| 02:14.07 | Xenguy | so |
| 02:14.27 | specing | I don't use distro network scripts, it is a waste of time |
| 02:14.32 | Xenguy | Well just spit it out, unless suspense is you object |
| 02:14.37 | Xenguy | *your |
| 02:15.19 | Xenguy | Mr. Godot, what are you waiting for? |
| 02:15.19 | specing | ip addr add 1.1.1.2/24 dev eth0; ip link set eth0 up; ip route default via 1.1.1.1 |
| 02:15.44 | Xenguy | Well you're a better man than me |
| 02:16.27 | Xenguy | For me, it would be easier to memorize the line I needed in /etc/network/interfaces, to get a wired connection... |
| 02:16.38 | specing | when you're done, dump shell history in a new init script and forger about /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:16.41 | Xenguy | Then I'd bootstrap to wireless via the GUI |
| 02:17.02 | Xenguy | Well, you sound like an emacs guy |
| 02:17.11 | Xenguy | pivots and ducks... |
| 02:17.33 | specing | I use what is best, sometimes that is emacs |
| 02:17.41 | Xenguy | haha, I knew it |
| 02:17.43 | specing | sometimes it is vim, sometimes a full IDE |
| 02:17.47 | Xenguy | kidding |
| 02:18.00 | Xenguy | I've messed with Spacemacs, that's about it |
| 02:18.33 | Xenguy | But as an olde friend once said: Some folks minds are just double(not single)spaced |
| 02:18.56 | Xenguy | So your solution is best for you, and mine best for me |
| 02:19.29 | Xenguy | We work with what works for us |
| 02:19.47 | Xenguy | A great thing about linux is it offers so many roads to Rome |
| 02:19.53 | Xenguy | I love that |
| 02:20.07 | Xenguy | If one thing fails, there's always another way |
| 02:20.39 | Xenguy | I remember the little Perl I learned being like that too |
| 02:21.03 | Xenguy | "There's more than one way to do it" |
| 02:22.29 | Xenguy | Huh, resilience and versatility, and there ya have (at) it |
| 02:33.29 | Xenguy | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 02:33.56 | Xenguy | ^^ I think that's the line I need in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:35.05 | yeti | yipyip |
| 02:35.18 | tuxd3v | Xenguy if you want dhcp, then yes |
| 02:35.28 | tuxd3v | but you also need adhcp client |
| 02:35.45 | tuxd3v | adhcp -> dhcp |
| 02:36.17 | tuxd3v | certify yourself that the name of the interface is eth0 |
| 02:43.15 | Xenguy | Most routers 'just do' DHCP, yes? |
| 02:44.51 | Xenguy | yeti: yippieyippie : -) |
| 02:47.47 | yeti | dhcp is a good 1st guess |
| 02:48.49 | yeti | when the router can be reached and the address range is known, changing to a static address is no big deal |
| 02:49.19 | yeti | the other way round, you'd need to collect all the details manually or with a differend system |
| 02:50.35 | yeti | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d4RtvMQp10 yipyip<ip |
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| 21:07.35 | sml | hi guys |
| 21:07.47 | debdog | o/ |
| 21:07.53 | sml | its possible to install docker in devuan? |
| 21:08.08 | sml | im trying to install in ascii but i cannot found docker-ce |
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| 21:58.17 | _abc_ | What's a popular radio internet listener for devuan? I am miffed that the app RadioDroid exists on android, distributed by f-droid.org, open source and all, which does this well, and has an impressive out of the box station list, and there is nothing for linux desktop like it. Technically, compiling an app for droid is compiling it for linux, Java notwithstanding. Suggestions for a desktop internet radio |
| 21:58.23 | _abc_ | app? |
| 21:59.58 | yeti | for known urls I use mplayer and at to automagicaly switch streams, for exploring the rest of the world https://radio.garden/ |
| 22:01.23 | _abc_ | lol garden tld used for radio |
| 22:01.56 | Wonka | .oO( walled.garden 302 apple.com ) |
| 22:04.13 | _abc_ | huh? |
| 22:06.16 | _abc_ | yeti: what do the +- buttons on the left do. They do nothing here. |
| 22:06.48 | onefang | VLC works for me, but I only listen to very few stations. |
| 22:06.50 | _abc_ | Also changing location is not possible. I am stuck in my city. |
| 22:07.09 | yeti | +- zoom |
| 22:07.18 | _abc_ | does nothing here |
| 22:07.25 | yeti | check for scriptblockers or other cops |
| 22:07.56 | _abc_ | location did change in strange ways |
| 22:08.00 | _abc_ | Israel?! |
| 22:08.03 | _abc_ | I'm in .ro |
| 22:08.55 | onefang | Using a VPN or proxy? I''m in .au, but my VPN is in .nl, so I get a lot of Dutch advertising. lol |
| 22:09.04 | _abc_ | no proxy |
| 22:10.30 | _abc_ | How do you change location?! |
| 22:11.34 | _abc_ | yeti: should i be seeing a map? I see a black background... |
| 22:11.50 | _abc_ | I hope the bozos did not use a google api for the map. Openstreetmaps is allowed, google not. |
| 22:12.35 | onefang | Google has sometimes gotten confused and put me in .ru. |
| 22:13.27 | yeti | I see stations as green dots on a darker blue background because I block google |
| 22:13.43 | yeti | if I allow google, there is a map |
| 22:13.45 | _abc_ | I don't see the dots |
| 22:14.00 | _abc_ | yeti: of course. Bozos. Openstreetmap is available and free. |
| 22:14.15 | furrywolf | in all fairness, openstreetmap is fucking worthless. |
| 22:14.20 | yeti | it's a fight with scripblockers and co |
| 22:14.35 | _abc_ | I use only that. Gooshit does not even give you street numbers or a size scale in the map. |
| 22:14.45 | yeti | so I mostly use it without the world view below the stations |
| 22:15.03 | furrywolf | I looked at them when pondering a GIS project, and their data is so utterly incomplete and incorrect that using them is worse than not having a map at all. |
| 22:15.03 | yeti | guessing the cities is easy enough only seeing the stations |
| 22:15.08 | onefang | openstreetmap works for me, but it's crowd sourced, you need a decent crowd in your area of interest. |
| 22:15.13 | _abc_ | Just so they can sell you something, you have to type in where you want to go, and immediately gets you tagged with targeted ads. |
| 22:15.30 | _abc_ | onefang: that is true. It is okay where I am in Eastern Europe. |
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| 22:22.24 | _abc_ | So radio garden is unusable here due to no map. |
| 22:28.05 | _abc_ | Is kradio worthless? |
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| 22:29.56 | _abc_ | kradio is in the normal devuan channels, it is present on ascii which is what I am running now |
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| 22:58.56 | _abc_ | This seems to work as finder https://www.internet-radio.com/ unrelated to linux, cross platform etc |
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