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| 01:00.39 | tuxd3v | debian port for armhf states about eabi that is armv5T compatible... but its impossible to compile code for armv6...well well.. |
| 01:01.02 | tuxd3v | they state they droped 4T, seems that they dropped 4T,5T,6 |
| 01:01.04 | MinceR | they could run armv5 code on armv6, then |
| 01:01.38 | tuxd3v | I am compiling in armv7 for armv6, and I can't |
| 01:01.52 | tuxd3v | sorry, unimplemented: Thumb-1 hard-float VFP ABI |
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| 01:02.37 | tuxd3v | only becasue I am using one armv6 arch.. more precisedly the rpi1 cpu 'arm1176jzf-s' |
| 01:05.04 | tuxd3v | 'arm1176jzf-s' used the first implementation of vfp I believe |
| 01:06.49 | tuxd3v | Kow I am in the dark.. tried to run devuan armhf and after the kernel loads, it hangs..and I don't know why.. |
| 01:07.26 | tuxd3v | now compiling fluxbox in armv7 for armv6 and I can't ...the toolchains is also old 6.3.. |
| 01:08.35 | tuxd3v | I was trying the last version of fluxbox.. |
| 01:08.39 | tuxd3v | :) |
| 01:09.04 | tuxd3v | the one in the debian experimental repos.. |
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| 05:17.54 | tuxd3v | MinceR, maybe I was wrong about armel droping 5T, 6 arm archs... I simply configured badly my builder, and I got a armhf rootfs.. |
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| 05:18.53 | tuxd3v | yeah...sometimes its better to go back to the starting point.. saves time and a headache .. |
| 05:19.18 | tuxd3v | probably I would have to find a crosstolchain compatible, somewere.. |
| 05:19.54 | tuxd3v | ARM has one but its armhf, and I really don't know if they follow the same EABI as debian.. |
| 05:20.37 | tuxd3v | they have one from 2018, but is explicictly soft-float.. I want hardfloat, but for armv6 :S |
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| 05:35.04 | systemdlete | when I use pastebinit, it gives me the website (paste.debian.com) but not the page (something like zYzza3sa) |
| 05:35.20 | systemdlete | seems that pastebin.com is down right now |
| 05:35.34 | systemdlete | (DDOS attack or something maybe? idk) |
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| 17:44.14 | kappa | hey, i performed a dist-upgrade on my machine, and APT seems to have appended a few lines to my sources.list |
| 17:45.34 | kappa | it used to only point to Beowulf packages, but it's now added Ceres repositories to it, should I remove the old Beowulf lines? |
| 17:45.35 | fsmithred | what lines? |
| 17:45.43 | fsmithred | paste them somewhere not here |
| 17:46.09 | fsmithred | do you want to run ceres? |
| 17:46.18 | kappa | can i paste one? |
| 17:46.20 | fsmithred | (not advised) |
| 17:46.24 | fsmithred | one line, yes |
| 17:47.03 | kappa | deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ beowulf main |
| 17:48.07 | kappa | i have several of these in the file, after i performed the dist-upgrade, it added two more, but these were for ceres repositories |
| 17:48.11 | fsmithred | get rid of it |
| 17:48.21 | kappa | of the beowulf one? |
| 17:48.22 | kappa | okay |
| 17:48.46 | fsmithred | if you want beowulf lines, or any, they should be deb.devuan.org |
| 17:49.07 | kappa | the new ceres lines are devuan.org |
| 17:49.10 | fsmithred | and don't bother with country codes now. They aren't set up. |
| 17:49.18 | fsmithred | deb.devuan.org? |
| 17:49.32 | kappa | packages.devuan.org |
| 17:49.35 | fsmithred | no |
| 17:49.44 | fsmithred | get rid of packages.devuan.org |
| 17:49.54 | fsmithred | and use deb.devuan.org for all |
| 17:50.01 | fsmithred | unless you run into problems with it |
| 17:50.14 | fsmithred | and which do you want to run? ascii, beowulf or ceres? |
| 17:50.21 | fsmithred | ceres is nowhere near ready |
| 17:51.26 | tuxd3v | fsmithred, seems that there are a invalid name certificate on: https://deb.devuan.org |
| 17:51.37 | tuxd3v | issued for CN: 'mirrors.dotsrc.org' |
| 17:51.38 | kappa | welp, these ceres lines were added in apparently, i didn't add them in myself, and i've already done an update with them in-place, so i sure as hell can't go back |
| 17:52.03 | kappa | at least as far as i know |
| 17:52.07 | fsmithred | you're using https with apt? If so, you must specify a mirror that uses https |
| 17:52.36 | kappa | i'm not |
| 17:52.40 | fsmithred | were you running ascii or beowulf before the upgrade? |
| 17:52.42 | kappa | as far as i know |
| 17:52.44 | kappa | beowulf |
| 17:53.01 | fsmithred | ok, if they were added during the upgrade, you should still be in beowulf |
| 17:53.12 | fsmithred | you would have to update and upgrade again for them to take effect |
| 17:53.20 | kappa | but i'm pretty sure i have |
| 17:53.29 | fsmithred | oh |
| 17:53.34 | kappa | that's the thing, so as far as i know i'm in ceres now |
| 17:53.43 | fsmithred | there's a way to revert with pinning |
| 17:54.09 | kappa | nothings exploded so far |
| 17:54.16 | fsmithred | you might get away with running ceres |
| 17:54.27 | kappa | is there? i've heard in other places that reverting isn't possible |
| 17:54.43 | fsmithred | I have to remember where it was explained. |
| 17:54.52 | fsmithred | I think you pin beowulf to 1001 |
| 17:55.02 | fsmithred | and I'm not sure what to set for ceres |
| 17:55.14 | fsmithred | might be on forum and might be on dng mailing list |
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| 17:55.44 | fsmithred | there's also a way to see which packages are from beowulf and which from ceres |
| 17:55.48 | fsmithred | with aptitude |
| 17:57.17 | fsmithred | aptitude search ~i -F"%p# %v# %t#" |
| 17:57.19 | onefang | If you are not using https for apt, then you should not be seeing https://deb.devuan.org. |
| 17:58.14 | kappa | ok, i'm not sure if i'll try reverting, but i'll keep it in mind just in case staying in ceres doesn't pan out for me |
| 17:58.28 | onefang | deb.devuan.org is a DNS round robin, in your case it's sending you to mirrors.dotsrc.org, but apparently using https, mirrors.dotsrc.org doesn't have the deb.devuan.org certificate, it has it's own. |
| 17:58.43 | kappa | i'm not seeing https tho, if you're talking to me that is |
| 17:59.04 | onefang | Yep, I'm talking to you. |
| 17:59.29 | kappa | what do you mean exactly, i mean i wasn't mentioning https |
| 18:00.05 | onefang | Oh wait. It's 4AM here, I was talking to tuxd3v that DID mention https. Sorry. |
| 18:01.25 | kappa | oh, okay |
| 18:05.22 | onefang | tuxd3v: don't use https with deb.devuan.org. It's a round robin, the mirrors it will send you to only have their own certificates, not one for deb.devuan.org. |
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| 18:33.28 | kappa | when i install packages of a different architecture (i386) apt doesn't automatically install their dependencies like it usually does, does anyone know what to do about this? |
| 18:33.43 | kappa | i tried apt install -f |
| 18:33.51 | kappa | and using aptitude, neither worked |
| 18:46.24 | tuxd3v | onefang, I understood that :) |
| 18:47.38 | tuxd3v | One way, but envolves more complexity would be to setup a loadbalancer in the front-end, with it having and serving the requests with the correct certificate... |
| 18:47.58 | tuxd3v | but that would involve more infrastructure.. |
| 18:48.13 | tuxd3v | maintenance, and complexity.. |
| 18:49.49 | tuxd3v | not to speak about region, that you would need to setup several.. |
| 18:50.25 | tuxd3v | onefang, thanks for your clarification :) |
| 18:50.51 | onefang | You are welcome. |
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| 19:50.38 | fsmithred | If one uses apt-transport-https, must all the repositories in sources.list be https, or is it possible to use both? Problem is that new skype depends on apt-transport-https |
| 19:52.29 | fsmithred | hm, older version says the same thing. |
| 19:57.00 | onefang | I think it's possible to use both, but I haven't tried it. |
| 19:57.01 | fsmithred | ok, it seems to work. I didn't have to change anything in sources.list, skype added a file in sources.list.d and that line only uses https |
| 19:57.09 | fsmithred | apt update didn't complain |
| 19:57.15 | onefang | Cool. |
| 19:57.17 | fsmithred | and nothing to upgrade at this time |
| 20:00.08 | golinux | skype? Really?? |
| 20:02.50 | onefang | Sometimes you are forced to use skype. I was once long ago, coz the client insisted. |
| 20:16.08 | fsmithred | I'm making a live-iso for a friend |
| 20:16.15 | fsmithred | she uses skype every day |
| 20:16.46 | fsmithred | I can't get her to change to anything else |
| 20:23.05 | golinux | I suspected that was the situation . . . |
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| 20:54.03 | jl4 | By chance ... does anybody here run Yunnhost on Devuan ? |
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| 22:46.43 | agris | onefang, you might be able to install a skype transport for xmpp |
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| 22:59.04 | jl4 | oh... a skype transport for xmpp ? |
| 22:59.24 | jl4 | http://pad.librebits.info/p/init-freedom |
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