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05:51.52systemdleteKeeping in mind I am new to debian linux in particular, and I've never tried this on any linux system
05:52.21systemdleteIs there a safe way to have multiple versions of the same library without ruining the entire system?
05:53.15systemdleteI'd like to use bareos-18 but it requires a newer version of a library.  I don't, however, want to upgrade to beowulf until that version is officially released.  I'm kind of a bug about that.
05:53.18systemdletetia
05:53.40systemdlete(someone on a page I found mentioned packrat)
06:00.36systemdletenvm.  It looks like that dependency has been fixed or something.
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06:34.02systemdleteI swear this:  A few weeks ago, when I tried to install bareos 18.2, it complained about a dependency.
06:34.49systemdleteI have my repos pointed at the bareos.org directories, so maybe these binaries are different than the ones in devuan's repos.   That could be a big no-no, but I am not sure.
06:36.30systemdleteOK.  I think the difference is this:  Devuan has 18.2.4, and bareos.org has 18.2.5
06:37.10systemdleteDevuan has 16.2.4, not 18.2.4
06:37.32systemdleteTHat's a huge difference.  I realize I may have just broken the warrantee...
06:38.39systemdletemy deb line is:  deb https://download.bareos.org/bareos/release/18.2/Debian_9.0 ./
06:39.28systemdleteIt looks like they are officially supporting this newer packaging.  I don't believe there are any systemd dependencies; if there were, bareos 18.2.5 would not be running and working.
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15:57.20nemo0% [Working]
15:57.30nemoI keep hanging this right after the fetch from:
15:57.36nemoGet:25 http://deb.devuan.org//merged ascii-backports/main i386 Packages [606 kB]
15:57.49nemoanyone have any idea what it's doing that would cause such a hang? I've left it for minutes at a time
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16:33.05jaromilit was resyncing
16:33.09jaromili had it too today
16:33.37nemojaromil: oh. upstream repo is down?
16:33.44jaromilno, deb.
16:33.56nemothose aren't the same thing?
16:37.06jaromilno, deb is a roundrobin of mirrors
16:37.46nemooh... hm
16:38.20nemojaromil: so like one of the repos in the roundrobin might be bad?  guess I can try pulling the IPs from dig, and forcing each one by one in /etc/hosts until it works
16:38.32jaromilnot bad, out of sync / syncing
16:38.52nemojaromil: huh. you'd think that could happen atomically
16:39.30nemoI guess to do it automically you'd need 2 copies of the tree on each mirror, one for the rsync, one for live, then do the mv
16:39.37nemomaybe that's too much to ask of the mirrors
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18:14.11nemojaromil: hm... still hanging on "working" this seems way beyond a sensible rsync timeframe
18:14.29nemojaromil: gonna try to hardcode deb.devuan.org after all (I thought I'd wait a bit first)
18:15.02nemohm. wonder if my mirror list in dns is out of date
18:17.39nemonope... queried devuan nameservers directly, identical IP list
18:17.51nemohm... maybe I can find out who is bad w/ wget of each IP
18:21.50nemojaromil: weird. they all seem to be responding
18:22.17nemonormal folders for /merged/ on each one with Host of deb.devuan.org
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18:56.51nemothe weird thing is it seems like all the repo fetches succeeded...
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23:49.02tuxd3vdoes anyone knows what are the default user & passwords for Raspbian, I am trying to get the dust of my rpi( v2011) :)
23:49.37tuxd3vbut I want to check some things first, for the boot process ;)
23:50.02golinuxDDG won't tell you?
23:50.57golinuxNot much chatter lately here or on #devuan-arm or on the forum . . .  :(
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23:57.23tuxd3vimpressive the Documentation I saw till now, doesn even talk about users & passwords... and I am talking about RaspBerryPi..
23:58.02tuxd3vThe Other maybe bad thing... my RPi original, and from my earlir adopter times... doesn't boot
23:58.22tuxd3vOne of my fears after shutdown and after serving me since 2011
23:58.26tuxd3vlet's see..

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