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| 02:09.37 | tuxd3v | tuxd3v is busy building mesa for armhf.. |
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| 06:05.13 | systemdlete | is there a non-web gui tool for mysql available for devuan? I can't find one. |
| 06:05.26 | systemdlete | (I'd like one!) |
| 06:05.40 | systemdlete | Toad used to be popular, but it seems it is not in our repo |
| 06:06.05 | systemdlete | I tried mysql-workbench, but it crashes when I try to open a connection to a db |
| 06:06.45 | systemdlete | dbeaver looked promising, but alas, we don't have that either? |
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| 07:00.11 | cehteh | libreoffice database :DDD |
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| 08:10.45 | gnarface | i'm not sure toad is open source |
| 08:11.14 | gnarface | i think it was always shareware/nagware wasn't it? |
| 08:11.57 | gnarface | nothing is really stopping you from running a web-based client from a local webserver though |
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| 08:29.23 | lifebook | hi |
| 08:30.30 | lifebook | binary ghostscript packages in beowulf-security seems to be in sync now |
| 08:31.03 | lifebook | a great thank you to all that make this happen |
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| 10:42.14 | *** topic/#devuan by jaromil -> Welcome to Devuan! https://devuan.org | Releases: https://files.devuan.org (Jessie 1.0 old-stable, ASCII 2.0 stable) | | Conference (2019) https://www.dyne.org/the-first-devuan-conference/ | Forum https://dev1galaxy.org | Chanlogs http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ |
| 10:42.19 | jaromil | sry for confusion |
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| 11:51.39 | GyrosGeier | can we have a second conference in 2020? |
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| 15:10.23 | GyrosGeier | hm |
| 15:10.47 | GyrosGeier | does it make sense to try to get devuan-keyring inside Debian, for use by debootstrap/pbuilder? |
| 15:11.31 | GyrosGeier | I mean, my main Jenkins worker is Devuan, and it can build Debian chroots just fine, but other people might want to go the other way |
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| 17:51.41 | tuxd3v | GyrosGeier, what you mean by 'get devuan-keyring inside Debian'? |
| 17:51.59 | GyrosGeier | get the package included |
| 17:52.35 | GyrosGeier | so I can just use debootstrap --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg --mirror ... --distribution ascii |
| 17:53.56 | tuxd3v | If you are in devuan....you already hait :) |
| 17:54.07 | tuxd3v | hait -> have it |
| 17:54.42 | GyrosGeier | yes |
| 17:54.59 | GyrosGeier | but my use case is "Debian system, I need a Devuan chroot" |
| 17:55.16 | GyrosGeier | Debian also ships the Ubuntu keyring for the same reason |
| 17:55.33 | GyrosGeier | that is very useful for CI machines |
| 17:56.04 | GyrosGeier | I've configured chroots for all relevant releases across distros in Jenkins now |
| 17:57.16 | tuxd3v | you can add the souces from devuan and get it :) |
| 17:57.26 | tuxd3v | then copy it to chroot :) |
| 17:58.31 | tuxd3v | 'deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii main contrib non-free' |
| 17:59.10 | tuxd3v | maybe it will conflict with the debian keyring, don't know.. |
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| 18:00.35 | tuxd3v | /usr/share/keyrings/devuan-archive-keyring.gpg |
| 18:01.03 | tuxd3v | :) |
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| 18:19.14 | ychaouche | hello #devuan |
| 18:19.25 | ychaouche | GyrosGeier, do you run graphical applications from chrooted environements ? |
| 18:19.39 | ychaouche | I'm looking for general tips to do that |
| 18:20.06 | ychaouche | I tried to run a wine application from a chroot and didn't succeed |
| 18:20.14 | GyrosGeier | tuxd3v, it doesn't conflict -- and the point is that I want to be able to deploy chroots without manual steps |
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| 18:20.46 | GyrosGeier | adding Devuan sources to a Debian system just so I can install the keyring (which is still from an untrusted source at this point) is a manual step |
| 18:21.04 | GyrosGeier | so IMO, shipping devuan-archive-keyring in Debian would make sense |
| 18:21.59 | GyrosGeier | ychaouche, you need an appropriate setting for $DISPLAY, and $XAUTHORITY pointing to a file the chroot can access |
| 18:22.12 | GyrosGeier | if your home is mounted inside the chroot, it should work |
| 18:22.47 | GyrosGeier | otherwise, you need to either copy ~/.Xauthority to the home inside the chroot, or create a new token and install that |
| 18:23.16 | ychaouche | This is a great tip, much appreciated. |
| 18:23.49 | ychaouche | I often mount --bind /home in the chrooted environement |
| 18:23.57 | GyrosGeier | that should work |
| 18:24.10 | GyrosGeier | but you need to be careful when cleaning up then |
| 18:24.19 | GyrosGeier | happened a few times to me :/ |
| 18:25.55 | ychaouche | The only clean up I do is just unmount /home and that's about it. |
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| 18:28.01 | GyrosGeier | ah, you never delete chroots? |
| 18:32.02 | ychaouche | Maybe we have different use cases. The chroots I usually work with are systems installed on another partition, that I sometimes boot into. So I keep them yes. |
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| 21:52.18 | premoboss | hi, why program 'shotcut' (video editor) is not present into devuan repositories? |
| 21:57.26 | fsmithred | premoboss, because it's not in debian |
| 21:58.08 | premoboss | fsmithred, because is not in devian does not means it cannot be in devuan. |
| 21:58.15 | premoboss | fsmithred, because is not in debian does not means it cannot be in devuan. |
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| 21:58.23 | fsmithred | you are correct |
| 21:58.34 | fsmithred | do you have someone in mind who would like to maintain it? |
| 21:58.56 | premoboss | i ask in differente way: why not add shotcut to devuna repo? it seems to be a good program for video editing. |
| 22:00.09 | premoboss | i have noone in mind. more, i have not skill to do. Simply, i need a pogram like that and because i am a devuan user, here i am to talk about. because if someone talks, maybe some others will do. if yes, good. if not,.. i will not die for. |
| 22:00.35 | fsmithred | maybe someone else will read this and take an interest |
| 22:01.17 | premoboss | fsmithred, you got the right meaning. |
| 22:01.27 | fsmithred | there is no official procedure for getting a package into devuan, but if someone makes a package, lets people know, and people start using it, it could possibly get put into the repo |
| 22:03.37 | premoboss | ok |
| 22:06.22 | fsmithred | I see there's an appimage for shotcut |
| 22:06.30 | fsmithred | have you tried that? |
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| 22:25.04 | premoboss | fsmithred, i did, but it does not start. |
| 22:25.12 | premoboss | no message error. |
| 22:25.15 | premoboss | jack is isntalled |
| 22:30.39 | fsmithred | it started for me, but it wouldn't open the two videos I tried. |
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| 22:43.09 | premoboss | fsmithred, did you follo the istruction and install dependences? |
| 22:43.11 | premoboss | jack? |
| 22:44.08 | premoboss | now im tryng openshot, but it is slloooooooooowwwww. or maybe i have a too much old pc. For sure, openshot does not care my dual core and use only one core. bad. |
| 22:45.09 | premoboss | oh, my bad. it does. but wrap to blender. |
| 22:45.46 | fsmithred | no, I didn't install anything or read anything |
| 22:46.02 | fsmithred | and no jack on this system |
| 22:47.16 | tuxd3v | https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002 |
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| 22:47.48 | tuxd3v | a new proposal D was added by Ian Jackson |
| 22:47.58 | golinux | tuxd3v: Yup. |
| 22:48.42 | golinux | I figured something like that would happen. |
| 22:49.35 | tuxd3v | me too.. :) |
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| 22:56.40 | gnu_srs1 | golinux: Nice to see a good alternative, let's hope for the best :) |
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