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01:07.59 | furrywolf | katsmeow-afk: just got home from work |
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03:27.02 | agris | I have a sdcard I am reading from directly and it's rated for 95MB/s read speed however I'm only able to get 20MB/s using Devuan |
03:27.23 | agris | Are there any optimizations I should know about that would account for why it's going to slow? |
03:27.51 | furrywolf | make sure you're using a usb 3 reader that supports the protocol the card uses, plugged into a usb 3 port... |
03:28.02 | agris | there is no overhead. I'm simply doing dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of /home/dump.img |
03:28.20 | furrywolf | always use a bs= with dd for benchmarking. try dd bs=1M |
03:29.27 | agris | furrywolf, I tried bs=4M, 8M, 16M, and 64M but 16 and up only decrease the speed from 20MB/s to 18MB/s |
03:29.51 | agris | also, it's not a USB interface. It's a PCI Express sdcard reader |
03:29.55 | furrywolf | so you're not simply doing what you said you were simply doing, then. :P |
03:30.12 | agris | and the destination device is a ssd |
03:30.29 | furrywolf | make sure the pcie reader supports the protocol the card uses, then. |
03:30.47 | agris | furrywolf, I omitted the custom bs after testing it didn't make a difference |
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03:31.27 | inklr | i've been using dd close to 20 years and blocksize usually made a significant difference |
03:31.54 | furrywolf | also, make sure the card is not counterfeit, crappy, etc. |
03:32.19 | inklr | agris: is there a different os that gives you faster /real/ transfer rates? |
03:32.26 | inklr | and isn't lying to you due to caching? |
03:33.05 | inklr | linux kernel did have a bad large-file copy problem but that was solved long ago |
03:33.18 | agris | It's this one https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/memory-cards/microsdhc-evo-plus-memory-card-w--adapter-32gb--2017-model--mb-mc32ga-am/ |
03:33.32 | inklr | not if it's counterfeit |
03:33.46 | agris | it's not. I remember when I bought it |
03:33.49 | furrywolf | my sandisk extreme 256gb microsd using the supplied usb3 reader on a usb3 expresscard gives pretty close to advertised speeds, which is quite impressive. I think I got around 80MB/sec write and 130MB/sec read. |
03:34.25 | agris | I'm using the internal reader in the ThinkPad T430. looking up specs for it now |
03:35.42 | inklr | sd benching usually uses bs-1M |
03:35.55 | inklr | also do an echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches |
03:36.15 | inklr | also make your target of=/dev/null to test read speeds |
03:36.55 | agris | ok hold on |
03:37.15 | furrywolf | I'm not finding much on that built-in reader, but it seems old. it could be it just doesn't support the newer features of the card. |
03:38.14 | furrywolf | sounds like it has a lot of problems on windows too |
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03:41.33 | furrywolf | if it doesn't do uhs-1, you're not going to get the full speed of the card. |
03:44.20 | inklr | reading from an 'intenso' 16GB SD HC over usb2.0 with transcend cardreader gets me 19.5MB/s which is typical |
03:45.30 | furrywolf | I'd do a test, but I'm not sure where my fast card is right now. heh. it's in a mp3 player I was using last month... |
03:45.40 | furrywolf | found it. |
03:46.36 | furrywolf | tries a 256GB read test |
03:46.46 | inklr | ah the intenso is rated at 20MB/s |
03:47.13 | furrywolf | most older readers are |
03:47.22 | furrywolf | it's whether they're high speed or uhs. |
03:47.28 | furrywolf | new ones are uhs |
03:48.00 | furrywolf | 13916700672 bytes (14 GB, 13 GiB) copied, 88.4757 s, 157 MB/s |
03:48.12 | furrywolf | 157MB/sec. sd reading is working great here! |
03:48.52 | furrywolf | that's dd bs=1M if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/null of my sandisk extreme 256gb in the sandisk mobilemate (if I remember the name right) usb 3 reader, stuck into my crappy usb3 expresscard adapter |
03:49.48 | furrywolf | I've been very impressed with this sandisk extreme card. it really does its advertised speeds, in real-world usage. |
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03:50.13 | furrywolf | spec is "Up to 160MB/s read" and I'm getting 157MB/src. |
03:53.23 | inklr | my SanDisk Ultra A1 128GB MicroSD XC Class 10 UHS-1 claims 100MB/s and i get 19.6MB/s over this usb2.0 adapter |
03:53.31 | furrywolf | https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/bus_speed/ |
03:53.43 | furrywolf | if you use a slow adapter on a slow bus, you're going to get slow speeds. heh. |
03:54.22 | inklr | yeh usb 2.0 is limited to around 30-35MB/s |
03:54.48 | furrywolf | I got a usb3 expresscard adapter because I was sick of being limited to the built-in usb2 ports |
03:55.06 | furrywolf | be warned the cheap ebay ones are garbage. some are even destructively bad. |
03:57.09 | furrywolf | http://fw.bushytails.net/posusbadapterplugs01.jpg that's the first ebay one I tried. note the contact plate is perfectly centered in the plug. note plugs plug in perfectly easily in either direction. note one way works. note one way shorts all four pins together with the housing of the plug. note this causes the laptop's power supply to become unhappy... |
03:57.28 | inklr | wow |
03:58.26 | furrywolf | and, of course, being a crappy ebay card, it has no current limiting or polyfuses on its usb plugs, so when you short them, it shorts the laptop's power rail. |
03:58.59 | furrywolf | after about the third time the laptop instantly powered off because I plugged something in upside down, it got tossed. |
04:00.05 | furrywolf | oh, and its speeds were barely better than usb2. |
04:00.17 | furrywolf | I think the one I have now is a startech, don't remember. and not going to pop it out to check. |
04:00.28 | onefang | Probably much less after you shorted out everything. |
04:01.57 | furrywolf | yes. :P |
04:02.57 | furrywolf | this laptop has a built-in reader that looks very similar to the one thinkpads use... I'll try a test on it in a bit. |
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04:12.00 | furrywolf | hrmm. read speeds are going down significantly towards the end of this card. I think it's slower reading blocks I've never written to. |
04:13.34 | furrywolf | it was holding at 155MB/sec to about how much of the card I've used, and now it's totally tanked. |
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05:21.25 | phillipsjk | IMO, USB3 was crazy: "Let's accomodate all the violations we see in the USB2 spec!" Plug in up-side-down / Over-current? / Over-voltage? / |
05:24.21 | phillipsjk | furrywolf, I could see them assuming you would write before reading to save zeroing the whole device. |
05:25.56 | phillipsjk | Whatever encoding method they use could be running into a lot of ECC errors. |
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11:02.10 | humma | I connected an ssd to my old laptop motherboard, and now the ahci is overheating, so I tried "echo "8:16 1048576" > /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio/blkio.throttle.read_bps_device" according to the documentation, but i'm getting "-bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument" |
11:04.31 | humma | Has any of you had problems writing to the sysfs before? |
11:07.24 | humma | File permissions are: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root |
11:07.34 | humma | I'm trying as root, of course |
11:08.36 | mn3m | Is there any errors/warnings in recent `dmesg` entries? |
11:10.29 | humma | Yes, something about dockerd dirperm1 breaking some protection, but it appears unrelated |
11:12.49 | humma | Although the file(s) are empty, reading does not pose a problem |
11:14.10 | armin | humma: well it prevents you from writing garbage to blkio/blkio.throttle.read_bps_device, are you sure you got the docs right? |
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11:16.47 | armin | humma: https://i.imgur.com/wTo4USc.png |
11:16.52 | humma | That's reassuring, and could explain it. I'm trying the same "<major>:<minor> <bytes_per_second>" as the docs, with two spaces in between |
11:16.56 | armin | humma: so it obviously expects something different being written to |
11:17.15 | armin | humma: hmmm, maybe your values are too low/high |
11:17.27 | armin | :) |
11:17.28 | humma | Seems reasonable. Thanks for reproducing it |
11:17.43 | armin | much welcome and glad i could help, report back if you found something that works |
11:18.12 | humma | will do |
11:18.15 | armin | :) |
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11:26.08 | inklr | i had a question but it was stupid so i hit ctrl-U |
11:40.35 | humma | armin: Huh, it turned out I had to use the minor number of the device itself, not the partition. Legal major:minor pairs were readily available at /sys/dev/block/ |
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12:11.14 | humma | Throttling I/O did not make a difference on its temperature though. Even without the disk, the intel af828011bm is running *very* hot |
12:16.50 | armin | humma: ah ;-) |
12:16.58 | armin | humma: ty for getting back, good to know |
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20:53.05 | avbox | FYi, there is a new release about AVMultimedia (keyboard tool). If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask. |
20:54.23 | debdog | avbox: is one of its features cleaning keyboards? |
20:57.07 | avbox | debdog: It does clean everything ;-). But you need to have a look yourself to see how easy it is. |
20:57.37 | debdog | is tempted |
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21:00.06 | avbox | debdog: Just choose english and you will have a "clean" english keyboard. But switching to any other languages should now be really really super easy. It would be nice to get a feedback. |
21:01.12 | debdog | do you have a link or is it in beowulf already? |
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21:03.53 | avbox | https://osdn.net/projects/avmultimedia/ (it is beowulf based with kernel 5.2.x). It does startup in arround 10 seconds an fast pc, on slow machines it is around 30 seconds, does not need any installaton und you even can use it from a stick (without any modifications on your current installaton) |
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21:06.07 | debdog | ohhhh, now I get it |
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21:11.06 | debdog | that actually sounds very interesting. unfortunately I prolly wont have much time in the upcoming weeks for extensive testing. how does it cope with using several audio cards simultaniously, avbox? |
21:13.32 | debdog | on second thought, this might have been a dumb question |
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21:21.45 | avbox | debdog: Under Multimedia you find the audio tool where you easily can switch to any sound card you have and works with linux 5.2.x. |
21:23.37 | avbox | debdog: I use AVMultimedia for 4k editing and use serveal sound devices without any problems (and yes, hdmi sound is for me important) |
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21:41.43 | inklr | i would like that sound card switcher if it works with alsa |
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