IRC log for #devuan on 20190927

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00:18.54*** topic/#devuan is This is the Devuan https://devuan.org/ discussion channel | D1conf: #devuan-conf https://devuan.org/d1conf | Latest (2018-06-09): ASCII 2.0.0 https://devuan.org/os/debian-fork/ascii-stable-announce-060818 || Stable (2017-05-25): Jessie 1.0.0 LTS release | Devuan Forum: https://dev1galaxy.org/ | Chanlogs http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/ | You may need to auth to NickServ
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00:31.57free_rabbithello
00:35.47free_rabbiti am runnig the ascii 2.0.0 armel image on a Raspberry Pi model B rev2. and when i run startx it shows up the windowmanager and mousepointer, but then freezes and i need to do a hardware poweroff
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00:40.35gnarfacefree_rabbit: you might want to hang out in #devuan-arm for a while, too
00:40.59gnarfacei don't know if that is a known issue or not
00:43.05free_rab1itgnarface: thx ;)
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01:58.23free_rabbitis there any tool that i can run in background or foreground to monitor my network and report me if there is a disconnect?
01:58.30free_rabbiti have it in dmesg
01:59.04free_rabbitautomatically disconnects me an irssi is reconnecting then everytime (very annoying...)
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06:29.59Pr0metheushi, does anyone know if xfce4-session 4.14 is getting worked as I went to gitlab and there has been no change for the last 4 years and it is not currently possible to update xfce4
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07:17.52free_speechwhich devuan release is the current stable? ASCII ?
07:24.58fsmithredyes, ascii
07:25.10fsmithredafk
07:25.53free_speechokay, ty.
07:26.03free_speechafk, too ... migrating my laptop to devuan
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08:27.28free_speechwhat does tasksel of devuan ascii mean by offering "console productivity" ?
08:28.27gnarfacefree_speech: probably like, non-X stuff
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09:01.00chomwittwhich distro does devuan support ?   a question in the wiki account creation page
09:01.18r3bootcentos, duh
09:01.40r3bootalso, I heard rumours that there is an openbsd port coming up! ;+
09:02.31chomwitthow should i now?
09:02.47r3bootI am joking
09:02.57chomwitti am thinking to write all
09:03.06r3bootdevuan *is* a distro
09:03.20chomwitta base-distro
09:03.23chomwittok
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09:03.54chomwittok devuan worked
09:03.56chomwittthants
09:03.58chomwittthanks
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13:31.48james1138I switched IRC clients from Pidgin to Empathy. I hope people will no longer see strange messages from me whenever I leave chat.
13:32.44onefangThere's one way to find out.
13:38.36james1138Back in few moments
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13:39.23onefangMuch better.
13:39.34onefangjames1138 (~james1138@71-222-133-42.albq.qwest.net) has left the room (Quit: james1138)
13:39.53james1138I am back. How was that?
13:40.09onefangMuch better.
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13:40.28james1138Good!
13:44.37sixwheeledbeastI have never had an issues with Pidgin
13:50.37nemojames1138: you can turn off quit messages in almost any client
13:51.20nemobut I wouldn't say pidgin is best choice for IRC though.
13:51.42james1138Maybe Pidgin is just too much (meaning to complex) for a old fart like myself.
13:52.02onefangDid you see his previous quit message?
13:54.11nemoonefang: it seemed totally ordinary
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13:54.42nemooh that one
13:54.48nemolisting his channels. heh
13:55.26james1138<sigh>
13:55.48onefangAnd lots of poking out tongues to those of us running IRC clients that turn certain bits of text into icons.
13:56.08nemohttps://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/15234
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13:56.34nemoonefang: ah. I do not have one of those. if I want tongues sticking out I'll use the unicode 😝
13:56.56nemoonefang: our work IM does that though. drives me bonkers when pasting code snippets to coworkers
13:57.33nemojames1138: according to ↑  it is a bug in the the "IRC More" pidgin plugin FWIW
13:58.32nemoactually looks like that one is a dupe of https://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/14635  which is an 8 year old bug O_o
14:01.54sixwheeledbeastIt's a WONTFIX due to being a third party issue
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14:11.45nemosixwheeledbeast: yeah. I'm just surprised people are still encountering it
14:11.49nemoclearly the plugin is unmaintained
14:11.52nemoprobably should be pulled
14:12.35sixwheeledbeastIt's not on the pidgins webstie as a listed third party plugin so it's likely dropped
14:16.09james1138Devuan question: where is the folder containing the default wallpaper??
14:16.35djphwhich DE?
14:17.11james1138XFCE
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14:46.17hightower2Hey help me a little bit here, I downloaded this install image:
14:46.24hightower2https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-ppc64el/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
14:46.51hightower2however during install, when I choose mirror from pkgmaster.debvuan.org/merged, then it asks me which release I want to install
14:47.03hightower2and regardless of whether I choose unstable or stable, it tells me that it can't find kernel modules
14:47.16hightower2and if/when I continue the install regardless, due to missing modules it doesn't detect the disk
14:47.29hightower2Should I be using a different ppc64el install image, or what?
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14:51.58fsmithred<PROTECTED>
14:52.19hightower2it says  27-Jun-2019 12:23
14:52.38fsmithredyeah, too old
14:53.21hightower2ok I'll try stable mini.iso
14:53.24fsmithredyou want to install ascii or beowulf?
14:53.45hightower2(even though I'm surprised that ppc64el mini.iso exists for stable, but obviously it does as I see it in the stable folder)
14:54.04fsmithredI don't know if there are new isos for that arch
14:54.06hightower2well I wanted ascii, but I'll take any, that's why I went with unstable
14:54.24hightower2hoping that new kernel etc. would be in it
14:55.08fsmithredpretty sure unstable or testing would have the latest one
14:55.20fsmithredI think there were some problems with building that arch
14:57.12hightower2but it's stupid that I used this image like last month and all worked fine
14:57.24hightower2now it's gonna delay me in plans
14:58.09hightower2or force me to install debian  :-) j/k won't do that
14:58.51hightower2(- Press P. - What? - "P" on your keyboard, Bob. - I'm not gonna do that!)
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15:00.23fsmithredI looked around and didn't find a newer image
15:00.37fsmithredbut we are working on new isos for ascii point release
15:01.14hightower2aah I know what am I gonna do, reuse the install which is already on the system
15:01.21hightower2that'll do, should have thought of that up front
15:01.44fsmithredyeah, you can copy it to another location
15:01.50fsmithrededit a few configs
15:02.09hightower2yeah even simpler, it's the same machine I wanted to reinstall, gonna just delete things I don't need and reuse
15:02.13fsmithredif you're up for an experiment, you could try making a live iso with refractasnapshot
15:02.21fsmithredI have no idea if it works on that arch
15:02.36fsmithredyou could also do a debootstrap install
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15:08.05hightower2not adventureous enough, need to progress with my task
15:08.13hightower2btw, I'm trying to debootstrap a debian chroot
15:08.24hightower2and it tells me "Release signed by unknown key"
15:08.43hightower2and I do have debian{-archive}-keyring packages installed. What do I need to do to solve this error?
15:10.26hightower2(I'm doing this on devuan, obviously)
15:13.39hightower2solved
15:14.57hightower2(used combination of advices from https://serverfault.com/questions/984604/debootstrap-release-signed-by-unknown-key )
15:15.29fsmithreddevuan-keyring
15:15.43fsmithredsorry, I was off making coffee
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15:34.17hightower2fsmithred, I needed to debootstrap debian, so needed debian's key
15:34.22hightower2sorted it out tho
15:34.51hightower2(my mistake was saying 'stable' since I was assuming that'd be debian's when it wasn't. Needed to say 'buster' explicitly)
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15:41.47fsmithredyeah, we're out of sync with debian right now
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18:23.06m3ttiwhere to start if one wants to participate in #devuan
18:23.09m3tti?
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18:25.10fsmithredm3tti, if you see something that needs to be done, you can offer to do it
18:25.58fsmithredalso join #devuan-dev to see what we're up to
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21:08.10free_speechis contributing to the devuan project as complicated as at the debian folks?
21:11.32hkramerwhat leads to this question?
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21:14.32golinuxfree_speech: No
21:14.43golinuxNot yet at least.
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21:31.10beagleboniushelo
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21:33.50beagleboniushow can i prevent wicd from dropping a wired connection when it connect to a wireless network?  i've looked around the preferences and haven't found an appropriate setting.
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21:36.18beagleboniushow can i prevent wicd from dropping a wired connection when it connects to a wifi network?
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21:38.17beagleboniusdoes anyone converse here or is this channel full of lurkers?
21:38.33DonkeyHoteiit's for support with the distro
21:38.46beagleboniusno kidding.
21:39.00DonkeyHoteiavailability of responses varies at different times; be patient
21:39.45beagleboniusi have been on this channel a fair number of times and it seems pretty dead. almost never see a conversation here
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21:41.11james1138Beaglebonius - you may want to try google search first.   https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=213758
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21:56.46mtnmanhelo.
21:56.57mtnmanis there a way to prevent wicd from dropping a wired connection when connecting to wifi?
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