| 00:05.04 | gnarface | if anyone has trouble starting Xorg after upgrading ceres today, make sure you're using the glvnd versions of the various pacakges rather than the non-glvnd ones (dunno why, dunno why it keeps happening, either) |
| 00:05.33 | gnarface | sorry of the various nvidia driver related packages |
| 00:05.45 | gnarface | to be clear |
| 00:06.26 | gnarface | not the first time that has sideswiped me, though i'm not clear if the non-glvnd ones sometimes worked and i didn't notice, or if the part i keep missing is it switching them out during upgrades |
| 00:06.45 | gnarface | i *thought* they were both working before but i could be wrong |
| 00:07.24 | gnarface | i also purged the old version of nvidia-persistenced which doesn't appear to have an updated version in the repo yet, though i'm not sure if that step was necessary now |
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| 01:10.36 | Xenguy_ | Sendmail? Surely you jest = ) |
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| 01:11.16 | Xenguy | I always thought postfix should have been the default MTA, but they keey picking Exim for some reason |
| 01:11.35 | Xenguy | er, keep |
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| 01:24.28 | hightower3 | hm strange, so on ppc63le ascii I had kernel 4.9. Then I upgraded to unstable which also added kernel 5.2. Now, when grub chooses 5.2 and boots it, a couple lines below it says 'starting kernel via...' and this hangs with 1 cpu core going to 100%, whereas with 4.9 it works. |
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| 08:43.45 | lifebook | hey! some news about 4.19 beowulf vs 4.9 ascii kernels combat in computer with low memory 256 MB and monothread CPU |
| 08:44.55 | lifebook | with 4.19 the system is not usable because it keeps on swapping |
| 08:45.40 | lifebook | just tested with 5.2 (buster-backports from debian) and good surprise |
| 08:46.13 | lifebook | the system may swap but does not keep on swapping |
| 08:46.53 | lifebook | 5.2 behaves like 4.9 |
| 08:48.25 | lifebook | there may be something wrong in memory management from 4.19 |
| 08:48.40 | lifebook | maybe in mm_percpu_wq |
| 08:49.11 | lifebook | the memory is allocated but not freed |
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| 08:50.12 | lifebook | as 5.2 kernel has better protection against spectre n friends |
| 08:51.53 | lifebook | time to get on without 4.9 ascii kernel |
| 08:55.13 | lifebook | if anyone else got trouble with ressource limited system yet wants memory management |
| 08:55.30 | lifebook | go get 5.2 |
| 08:55.41 | lifebook | :) |
| 08:56.29 | lifebook | it may also be related to rcu_gp (grace period) |
| 09:01.32 | lifebook | thanks to all |
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| 14:05.35 | Xenguy | Is everyone else on Ascii getting a huge update this morning, including ssh etc.? |
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| 14:16.46 | yeti | 32/36 packages upgraded on amd64/i386 |
| 14:19.22 | yeti | for my last 2 ascii VMs |
| 14:34.53 | fsmithred | 75 packages upgraded five hours ago. I just checked and there are another 41. |
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| 14:47.10 | fsmithred | 82 available on another ascii, and this is the one I've been using to test the update notifier. Previous dist-upgrade was three days ago. |
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| 14:54.36 | ErRandir | 61 updates here |
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| 15:13.42 | Xenguy | Thanks folks |
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