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| 00:11.34 | Criggie | I'm stunned - set up a small test VM and installing Devuan Ascii, and 256 MB ram was not enough to install. |
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| 00:21.42 | TwistedFate | hmm '-soundhw hda' freezes the machine upon boot |
| 00:21.52 | TwistedFate | 'soundhw ac97' works like a charm though |
| 00:22.10 | TwistedFate | '-soundhw ac97'* |
| 00:25.25 | TwistedFate | i'm pretty impressed with the qemu/kvm right now O_o |
| 00:26.34 | koollman | why? |
| 00:27.24 | TwistedFate | previously it was stuttery, must have been missing some flags |
| 00:28.11 | gnarface | i told you so |
| 00:28.53 | TwistedFate | i see gnarface wrote something, but i don't see what :3 |
| 00:33.41 | TwistedFate | now i only need to figure out networking :P |
| 00:36.15 | fsmithred | me too |
| 00:37.24 | fsmithred | all the howtos I've seen are incomplete |
| 00:39.04 | TwistedFate | it's a pain in the butt |
| 00:39.34 | TwistedFate | i want to create a couple of virtual machines and connect them |
| 00:39.58 | TwistedFate | and also have them connected to the internet |
| 00:45.09 | fsmithred | so you want bridged network |
| 00:45.21 | fsmithred | I've got that working, but it's not ideal |
| 00:45.35 | fsmithred | if I boot two live CDs, they both get the same ip address |
| 00:45.54 | fsmithred | if I boot a virtual hard disk, I can set a static ip that's unique |
| 00:46.12 | fsmithred | they're all getting addresses from my router |
| 00:46.55 | fsmithred | I tried messing with macvtap today, but I couldn't get it to work |
| 00:49.57 | rrq | use a vde_switch (vde2) to a tap in a bridge joined with eth0 |
| 00:50.44 | fsmithred | that wasn't in the instructions |
| 00:50.44 | rrq | also make sure the VM's nic have different mac addresses |
| 00:51.03 | fsmithred | yeah, about that address |
| 00:51.12 | fsmithred | I get "invalid PCI address" |
| 00:51.28 | fsmithred | don't look like a pci address in the example |
| 00:51.41 | fsmithred | looks just like a mac address, and that's what they call it |
| 00:52.07 | rrq | no it's a mac address = 6 bytes starting with an byte |
| 00:52.20 | rrq | an even byte |
| 00:52.21 | fsmithred | VM's mac address needs to be different from macvtap0's address, or the same? |
| 00:52.35 | fsmithred | so qemu is confused? |
| 00:52.45 | rrq | different ... "two ends of a cable" |
| 00:52.46 | fsmithred | or my instructions are old and don't match current options |
| 00:53.36 | fsmithred | is there some place that explains what I'm allowed to use as a mac address? |
| 00:53.57 | fsmithred | I made up one that got rejected |
| 00:54.10 | rrq | there's a wikipedia page :) .. anythig starting with 02: is fine |
| 00:54.18 | rrq | or 04 |
| 00:54.22 | fsmithred | damn |
| 00:54.23 | rrq | or 06 |
| 00:54.33 | fsmithred | why don't the examples start with that? |
| 00:54.46 | fsmithred | scratch that question |
| 00:55.01 | fsmithred | no way for you to know what was in the minds of the authors |
| 00:55.43 | rrq | actually 06 might be taken by a vendor... use 02 or 04 |
| 00:56.22 | rrq | I think they are "private mac addresses" |
| 00:56.31 | rrq | there's a wikipedia page |
| 00:57.58 | rrq | with "vde_switch (vde2) to a tap in a bridge joined with eth0" you've got a local "switch" for the qemu to attach to |
| 00:59.11 | rrq | and their dhcp requests go out to your dhcp server, with their macaddresses |
| 00:59.46 | rrq | responses channelled back by the bridge and the vde_switch |
| 01:00.47 | rrq | no ip for the tap, nor the bridge, but they need to be "up" |
| 01:02.18 | fsmithred | ok, thanks |
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| 01:03.49 | fsmithred | time for food |
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| 01:13.04 | rrq | while eating, you might ponder on that the vde_switch set up lets you run the qemu as non-root user(s) ... |
| 01:14.49 | TwistedFate | what? i run qemu as a non-root user without that |
| 01:16.48 | rrq | .. with its "user mode networking" I suppose? |
| 01:18.24 | rrq | also possible with a tap, if root gives user ownership of the tap |
| 01:21.19 | rrq | I use the vde_switch set up on the basis it's high-performance and without further root admin |
| 01:22.53 | rrq | (and it lets me go crazy with other virtual cabling :)) |
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| 01:44.12 | TwistedFate | rrq: ehh, i guess so.. i'm still experimenting, haven't figured it out yet |
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