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| 09:03.05 | nminix | after connecting via usb my iPhone 3GS doesn't appear in lsusb or dmesg :( but the phone itself says charging. how should i start troubleshooting the connection? |
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| 09:09.58 | xinomilo_ | in android you have to change from charging to file transfer (mtp) or similar . perhaps there's a similar option in ios..(?) |
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| 09:10.49 | gnarface | nminix: something like "mass storage mode" or the like |
| 09:10.55 | gnarface | maybe |
| 09:10.59 | gnarface | i don't know either really |
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| 09:13.07 | Centurion_Dan | both mtp and ptp modes should work with android. |
| 09:13.40 | Centurion_Dan | apple is a like extracting data from a slippery fish... |
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| 09:36.47 | nminix | yeah but linux doesn't even recognise it in lsusb =[ need to have it recognised before i can mtp or any other sort of transfer |
| 09:38.05 | gnarface | there should be a setting but you might also need to load some extra driver |
| 09:38.46 | gnarface | first find the usb connection settings in the phone if you can |
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| 14:46.05 | jml2 | hello |
| 14:46.20 | jml2 | i'm not getting a receipt for joining the mailinglist |
| 14:46.29 | jml2 | (or maybe there's a delay) |
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| 14:57.59 | jml2 | had a crash XD |
| 14:58.11 | jml2 | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 17:43.01 | g----- | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.02 | g----- | 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b) |
| 17:43.02 | g----- | 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04) |
| 17:43.24 | g----- | Anyone else having sound issues with Devuan Beowulf? |
| 17:43.44 | g----- | Package alsa-base is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 17:43.44 | g----- | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 17:45.39 | g----- | alsa-utils is already the newest version (1.1.8-2). |
| 17:47.11 | pardis | Searching packages.debian.org, alsa-base hasn't been an available package since jessie |
| 17:47.20 | pardis | It sounds like you've botched multiple upgrades |
| 17:47.24 | g----- | :) |
| 17:47.34 | g----- | I wasn't sure if I needed alsa-base |
| 17:50.16 | fsmithred | g-----, aplay -l |
| 17:50.25 | fsmithred | to see which card is first |
| 17:50.39 | fsmithred | doesn't one of those say HDMI somewhere? |
| 17:50.44 | James1138 | Try this for Alsa-Base - https://pkgs.org/download/alsa-base |
| 17:50.54 | fsmithred | why? |
| 17:50.55 | g----- | https://pastebin.com/jV7uNAZi |
| 17:51.54 | g----- | 5 HDMI results? |
| 17:52.01 | fsmithred | If you're not using the hdmi for sound, you'll need to switch the order of the cards |
| 17:52.07 | fsmithred | those are all card 0 |
| 17:52.31 | fsmithred | you might do that in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or something like that) |
| 17:52.58 | fsmithred | if you google, you'll find several different ways of doing it. One of those ways might work. |
| 17:53.10 | g----- | Thanks :) |
| 17:53.37 | fsmithred | I can give you a couple examples in a minute |
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| 17:55.09 | fsmithred | #options snd_usb_audio enable=0,1 |
| 17:55.09 | fsmithred | #options snd_hda_intel enable=1,0 |
| 17:55.11 | ejr | hi. i am running devuan ceres. for the past days, there have been a lot of updates and upgrades put out, almost on an hourly basis... is there a particular reason for that, or is it just that the devs are making a lot of progress currently? |
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| 17:55.46 | fsmithred | explanation: They're both commented out. One of those lines worked for some time and stopped, then the other line worked for awhile. Then no lines. |
| 17:56.14 | g----- | I'm going to fire up audicious to figure out which one I need |
| 17:56.22 | fsmithred | other way to deal with the issue is to select card 1 in all your sound apps, but that's no fun. |
| 17:56.35 | g----- | I should be able to select sound devices right? |
| 17:56.46 | fsmithred | in audacious, yes |
| 17:56.55 | fsmithred | that one even works with jack |
| 17:56.59 | slvr | blacklisting things works in a pinch. I made a radeon card stop bothering me that way a while ago. |
| 17:57.55 | furrywolf | ejr: most of those updates are probably coming from debian, unless it's in devuan-specific packages. my suggestion would be to not run ceres if things randomly updating, getting removed, breaking, or exploding is not going to work for your use. :) |
| 17:59.47 | fsmithred | if you're using deb.devuan.org in sources.list then part of the reason for the sudden surge in updates is because the repo stopped updating for a week until someone kicked it. |
| 18:01.29 | fsmithred | g-----, I don't know if my examples will work for you. I think both your cards use snd_hda_intel |
| 18:01.53 | fsmithred | you may need to put it in /etc/asound.conf |
| 18:01.57 | g----- | I'm literally going down a list of 50 options trying to figure out the correct one |
| 18:02.02 | g----- | I'll follow your lead instead |
| 18:02.21 | fsmithred | well, my example is for an external usb audio device |
| 18:02.38 | g----- | Ah that isn't my case usage heh |
| 18:03.49 | fsmithred | Try this: https://superuser.com/questions/626606/how-to-make-alsa-pick-a-preferred-sound-device-automatically |
| 18:05.07 | fsmithred | g-----, you don't have pulseaudio installed? |
| 18:05.24 | g----- | Should I install it? |
| 18:05.32 | g----- | I was trying this to figure out which one to choose |
| 18:05.33 | g----- | aplay -D card 0: HDMI [HDA Intel HDMI] SampleAudio_0.4mb.mp3 |
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| 18:06.38 | g----- | pulseaudio is already the newest version (12.2-4). |
| 18:07.09 | fsmithred | oh |
| 18:07.26 | fsmithred | don't be messing with alsa if you have pulseaudio installed |
| 18:08.00 | fsmithred | can you find settings for that? Maybe run pavucontrol |
| 18:08.07 | fsmithred | (I think that's right) |
| 18:08.33 | furrywolf | ... you have pulse installed, and you're wondering why sound doesn't work? |
| 18:08.40 | fsmithred | lol |
| 18:08.59 | fsmithred | he didn't know it was installed until just now |
| 18:08.59 | g----- | pavucontrol wasn't installed but it is now |
| 18:09.24 | g----- | Everything was working out of the box with Devuan Ascii so I didn't touch it lol |
| 18:09.35 | g----- | "establishing connection to pulse audio... please wait" |
| 18:09.39 | fsmithred | play around with it. |
| 18:09.58 | fsmithred | brb, need coffee |
| 18:10.01 | g----- | :) |
| 18:11.03 | g----- | Endlessly establishing connection to pulseaudio hah |
| 18:11.09 | g----- | sec rebooting |
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| 18:33.38 | g-------------- | Still no luck :) |
| 18:33.47 | g-------------- | https://pastebin.com/UTm3PL5C is my /etc/asound.conf |
| 18:34.04 | g-------------- | In sound preferences on MATE I'm not even seeing CX20756 |
| 18:34.14 | g-------------- | I'm pretty sure that's what I use to select |
| 18:34.50 | g-------------- | https://yuenhoe.com/blog/2014/04/selecting-alsas-default-sound-card/ has the same sound card as me I tried placing it in ~/.asoundrc as well |
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| 18:35.15 | g-------------- | It's sound card #1 for both of us |
| 18:35.18 | fsmithred | I got the cat |
| 18:35.44 | g-------------- | meow |
| 18:37.10 | fsmithred | yeah, that's the same configuration as the link I gave you. I don't think that applies if you're using PA |
| 18:38.06 | furrywolf | no also configuration is going to work until you apt-get purge pulseaudio. |
| 18:38.39 | g-------------- | Alright time to purge it |
| 18:38.46 | g-------------- | RIP pulseaudio |
| 18:38.57 | slvr | :D |
| 18:39.22 | g-------------- | Should I reboot after purging it or can I reinitialize that config some how |
| 18:39.36 | g-------------- | service alsa restart? |
| 18:40.07 | fsmithred | init 1 |
| 18:40.09 | fsmithred | should be enough |
| 18:40.28 | furrywolf | rebooting is the easiest way to get everything to stop trying to talk to pulse... anything that has it open needs to be restarted. |
| 18:41.02 | g-------------- | -> etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart i mean |
| 18:41.06 | g-------------- | ah okay |
| 18:41.16 | fsmithred | I'm having the opposite problem - I just installed pulseaudio and it's not doing anything. |
| 18:41.37 | fsmithred | you can try just restarting alsa |
| 18:41.43 | furrywolf | that's because you need to remove it, not install it. |
| 18:41.47 | fsmithred | but reboot is certain |
| 18:41.56 | fsmithred | lol, it doesn't run, even after a reboot |
| 18:42.01 | fsmithred | sound works |
| 18:42.08 | g-------------- | poor fsmithred :( |
| 18:42.18 | furrywolf | I've tried just restarting alsa... a lot of stuff keeps trying to talk to pulse. sometimes the daemon won't die. etc. |
| 18:42.40 | furrywolf | why are you trying to install pulse, anyway? :P |
| 18:42.48 | fsmithred | to see what it does |
| 18:42.54 | fsmithred | I have no experience with it |
| 18:42.59 | furrywolf | damnit, it's later than I thought, need to get ready for work. bbl. |
| 18:43.10 | fsmithred | the couple of times I tried it, it didn't last very long |
| 18:43.19 | fsmithred | before I removed it |
| 18:43.25 | fsmithred | that was years ago |
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| 18:50.38 | g------------- | pulseaudio\pavu has been purged + I rebooted still the same :) |
| 18:50.52 | fsmithred | did you run alsamixer in a terminal? |
| 18:51.04 | fsmithred | make sure volumes are up and channels are not muted |
| 18:52.12 | g------------- | When I'm in alsamixer it's capturing my F keys |
| 18:52.19 | g------------- | F3 keeps changing windows for some reason |
| 18:52.49 | g------------- | Desktop environment mate |
| 18:53.02 | fsmithred | there's a guide to the F keys in the alamixer window |
| 18:53.41 | g------------- | Yeah I need to press F6 to change audio devices |
| 18:53.52 | g------------- | seems like it isn't capturing any of them |
| 18:54.24 | g------------- | Ah I fixed it sorry |
| 18:54.42 | g------------- | I'm only seeing HDA Intel HDMI and HDA Intel PCH |
| 18:54.57 | g------------- | I bet they're muted I'll raise the sound for HDMI |
| 18:56.53 | fsmithred | arrow keys to select channel, m to mute/unmute |
| 18:57.08 | fsmithred | vertical arrows for volume |
| 18:57.24 | fsmithred | you want PCH |
| 18:59.17 | g------------- | For HDMI I just see S/PDIF |
| 18:59.21 | g------------- | Ah okay |
| 19:00.52 | g------------- | https://i.imgur.com/aaA8MbX.png |
| 19:00.54 | g------------- | Looks fine to me |
| 19:01.44 | fsmithred | yes |
| 19:02.40 | fsmithred | Hm, does auto-mute refer to the mic or the speakers? |
| 19:02.54 | fsmithred | space bar to toggle that |
| 19:07.28 | g------------- | Not sure. In VLC with with the headphone port plugged in and HDA Intel PCH, CX20756 Analogue Default Audio Device |
| 19:07.31 | g------------- | That's a step forward :) |
| 19:07.57 | fsmithred | turn it up. 50% is often very quiet |
| 19:09.14 | g------------- | This was a device selected by me manually in VLC -> Audio Device -> HDA Intel PCH, CX20756 Analog Default Audio Device |
| 19:09.21 | g------------- | I turned it up and it's perfect now in VLC |
| 19:09.26 | g------------- | I just need to figure out system wide sound now hah |
| 19:09.38 | fsmithred | the asound.conf should have done that |
| 19:10.05 | fsmithred | you could try the same in ~/.asoundrc |
| 19:10.21 | g------------- | Already done |
| 19:10.54 | g------------- | pcm.!default {type hw card 1 } |
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| 19:16.03 | g------------- | https://imgur.com/a/wcGHkZO even when I set it to PCH on the GUI and close it in Sound Preferences it goes back to HDMI. If I open audio in VLC it doesn't appear under Applications |
| 19:18.04 | g------------- | I fired up a game and it played sound. Go figure. Maybe it's just my browser. |
| 19:18.17 | fsmithred | oh, maybe |
| 19:18.27 | fsmithred | vlc is calling it the default card |
| 19:18.43 | fsmithred | so .asoundrc is working |
| 19:18.48 | g------------- | Going to test on audacity right now if it works then it's chrome\firefox |
| 19:19.02 | g------------- | Yup |
| 19:19.08 | g------------- | The config worked |
| 19:19.25 | fsmithred | firefox-esr? |
| 19:19.32 | fsmithred | or newest from mozilla? |
| 19:19.39 | eyalroz | I'm trying to build this app which requires ffmpeg (libavformat specifically), but when CMake'ing, the package is not found despite being installed. Does Devuan distribute ffmpeg in a funny/nonstandard way? |
| 19:19.40 | g------------- | Both are from the devuan repo |
| 19:19.55 | g------------- | html5 playback |
| 19:19.57 | fsmithred | ok |
| 19:20.30 | g------------- | I'll just manually set it in each browser it's a one time thing :) |
| 19:20.34 | g------------- | Not a big deal |
| 19:20.48 | g------------- | Thanks for all the help :) |
| 19:21.06 | fsmithred | there's an audio device setting in the browsers??? |
| 19:21.44 | fsmithred | eyalroz, I know debian user avconv instead of ffmpeg for a couple of releases |
| 19:21.56 | fsmithred | look for libav-tools |
| 19:21.57 | g------------- | Is it the job of the OS? |
| 19:22.05 | g------------- | Should I purge chromium and firefox-esr? |
| 19:22.28 | fsmithred | It would satisfy me if we could throw both of them in a bonfire |
| 19:22.39 | fsmithred | but there's no adequate replacement |
| 19:22.39 | g------------- | I'll try that now :) |
| 19:22.53 | eyalroz | fsmithred: There are packages with ffmpeg in their names, and none with avconv in the name |
| 19:23.05 | g------------- | Yeah sound is working for Chrome that worked thanks :) |
| 19:23.34 | fsmithred | yw |
| 19:23.47 | fsmithred | eyalroz, are you in ascii, beowulf or ceres? |
| 19:25.05 | fsmithred | and where is your app looking for ffmpeg? Maybe library path needs to be set? |
| 19:26.17 | fsmithred | If it's looking for .so files, add the -dev package |
| 19:26.38 | fsmithred | libavformat-dev |
| 19:28.00 | James1138 | Is is okay to purge "rsyslog"? |
| 19:28.14 | fsmithred | why??? |
| 19:28.42 | fsmithred | Priority: important |
| 19:28.48 | fsmithred | so yeah, I guess you can |
| 19:28.55 | fsmithred | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.58 | James1138 | With Beowulf out now - I did not see a need to send system reports |
| 19:29.07 | fsmithred | send? |
| 19:29.23 | fsmithred | you still might want to view some logs once in awhile. |
| 19:29.25 | James1138 | What does rsyslog do?? |
| 19:29.34 | fsmithred | writes syslog |
| 19:29.43 | James1138 | I see it in the boot log |
| 19:30.03 | James1138 | I just leave it be. |
| 19:30.08 | fsmithred | good idea |
| 19:30.11 | eyalroz | fsmithred: : Beowulf. But - it seems the problem was solved. Weirdest thing - the libavformat-dev library was marked as installed, but the header files were missing |
| 19:30.27 | eyalroz | I apt-get install --reinstall'ed it and then they were there |
| 19:30.33 | fsmithred | was this an upgrade to beowulf? |
| 19:31.31 | fsmithred | James1138, if you don't want the system to send you mail, you can get rid of exim4 |
| 19:32.34 | James1138 | I was just thinking about finding and turning off any system reporting that may be running in the background no longer needed. |
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| 20:03.04 | eyalroz | fsmithred: So, after working through another build configuration glitch, I got to an actual build failure in amarok: |
| 20:03.04 | eyalroz | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=409836 |
| 20:03.18 | eyalroz | this is just FYI, not asking for anything. |
| 20:03.30 | eyalroz | too bad that there's no Amarok in Debian anymore :-( |
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