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| 16:20.44 | moiree | firefox-esr is still at version 60.7.2 in ascii, altough the security update came two days ago in debian stretch. Why is this so? |
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| 16:32.45 | gnarface | moiree: i assume it is a time resources related issue |
| 16:33.09 | gnarface | maybe ask the mailing list? |
| 16:33.46 | moiree | gnarface: Thanks! |
| 16:34.53 | gnarface | if it needs to be rebuilt, it might take some time to make it over |
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| 16:35.08 | gnarface | if not, it could be a problem with the mirror you're using not being propagated |
| 16:40.08 | fsmithred | pkgmaster.devuan.org (aka deb.devuan.org) gets stuck. I don't know the reason. You can use auto.mirror.devuan.org instead. |
| 16:40.49 | fsmithred | or in the case of firefox-esr, just download the deb from debian repo. We don't change it. |
| 16:40.50 | moiree | usign deb.devuan.org as advised on https://devuan.org/os/ |
| 16:41.08 | fsmithred | you are correct. We recommend that you use deb.devuan.org |
| 16:41.13 | fsmithred | Except it's broken. |
| 16:42.32 | moiree | fsmithred: That's sad. Will try auto.mirror then. |
| 16:42.44 | fsmithred | auto.mirror.devuan.org is the older repo, but it works. |
| 16:46.15 | moiree | fsmithred: Thank you! It works indeed. Maybe the page <https://devuan.org/os/> should be changed accordingly? |
| 16:46.43 | fsmithred | Maybe. A better solution would be to find the source of the problem and fix it. |
| 16:47.02 | gnarface | is it only this package? |
| 16:47.20 | fsmithred | no, all the InRelease files for merged are stuck at July 7 |
| 16:48.06 | gnarface | oh, bummer |
| 16:48.31 | gnarface | is that just an ascii thing? |
| 16:48.54 | gnarface | or does it affect the testing and unstable too? |
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| 16:49.47 | fsmithred | looks like it's everything |
| 16:50.30 | fsmithred | ok, some are July 6 23:50 |
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| 17:40.59 | [exa] | hi everyone! I'm going to ask a relatively standard newb question |
| 17:41.35 | [exa] | I'm currently on debian testing, what's the worst thing I can expect broken when migrating to devuan? |
| 17:42.10 | [exa] | (I'm post-gentoo, no problem with fixing small scriptish problems) |
| 17:43.31 | [exa] | more specific question: how many packages from debian testing can _not_ be easily transferred to devuan? |
| 17:47.58 | golinux | You can't migrate debian testing to devuan atm because our "testing" is still buster/beowulf wnich hasn't been release yet. |
| 17:50.07 | golinux | "bullseye" with be codenamed "Chimaera" and it will be a good while before that will be useful. |
| 17:50.24 | golinux | Sorry for the typos |
| 17:50.55 | golinux | [exa]: ^^^ |
| 17:51.36 | [exa] | golinux: no problem with a bit of downgrades |
| 17:52.06 | [exa] | is there some serious trouble with using particular packages eg from bullseye/sid deb repos? (mostly desktop/graphics related, nothing that would touch init) |
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| 17:54.49 | [exa] | meh it looks like Ceres includes basically everything I'd need |
| 17:55.17 | [exa] | oh wow guys you even got codecrypt, I hardly believed it would get past debian, ever |
| 17:55.44 | [exa] | apulse *check* |
| 17:56.21 | [exa] | I guess people here could like this https://github.com/exaexa/pulseaudio-dummy-deb |
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| 17:58.07 | golinux | I was going to suggest ceres |
| 17:59.35 | golinux | Surely none of the desktops on bullseye will work will work so early on. <aybe with some pinning but that's beyond me. I'm still on jessie! |
| 18:01.44 | golinux | Devuan accesses Debian repos via redirect then filters packages for dependencies that would break Devuan. If you install them from Debian directly updates won't work properly. |
| 18:01.59 | golinux | [exa]: ^^^ |
| 18:03.33 | [exa] | hmmmm yes that makes sense |
| 18:04.07 | [exa] | cool |
| 18:04.11 | [exa] | thanks a lot |
| 18:05.23 | golinux | Good luck! |
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