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| 06:50.15 | FatPhil | Anyone know of any reason why a recentish lenovo (X250/X260) shipping with Win10 would not be convertable to boot Ascii? |
| 06:51.04 | FatPhil | vague murmerings on teh internets did mention things along the lines of microsoft having the machine well "locked down". |
| 06:52.20 | FatPhil | I'm running it happily on my X240, but g/f needs a new laptop to replace a dead desktop |
| 06:52.49 | man_in_shack | probably "secure boot" stuff |
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| 06:57.17 | gnarface | yea |
| 06:57.42 | gnarface | basically if you can't disable secure boot or add your own keys to it, you're SOL |
| 06:58.31 | gnarface | it should be illegal, IMO. but sadly it is not... |
| 06:58.53 | gnarface | check the BIOS settings anyway |
| 06:59.01 | gnarface | BIOS/EFI? |
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| 06:59.35 | gnarface | if there isn't info onscreen at boot time there should be info in the motherboard manual at least of how to access it |
| 07:00.02 | gnarface | er, system manual or whatever, if it's a laptop |
| 07:00.18 | gnarface | find stuff about accessing firmware settings |
| 07:00.45 | gnarface | it is entirely possible they don't give you any access i don't know actually |
| 07:02.50 | FatPhil | OK, I'll ask to be taken into the bios settings and look for "disable secure boot". My custom-spec x240 came without an OS, IIRC, but all vendors here sell all off-the-shelf boxes with crapware preinstalled. |
| 07:04.14 | FatPhil | I'm gonna get cheeky, and demand a discount to the value of an OEM Windows licence, obviously, as that shit ain't staying on my machine any longer than the length of the busride back to the office. |
| 07:08.41 | gnarface | well, you might want to wait at least until you find out whether your have driver support in linux or not before you make that decision |
| 07:08.48 | gnarface | assuming you can get it to boot |
| 07:09.20 | gnarface | maybe try the live image |
| 07:10.44 | gnarface | but in theory you can still use secure boot if it lets you add your own key |
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| 09:27.54 | FatPhil | ahhhh, now installing Ascii on my not-so-shiny not-so-new X250. |
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| 09:31.06 | gnarface | the win10 laptop? it's working? |
| 09:31.18 | gnarface | congrats man |
| 09:31.30 | gnarface | hope for kernel support |
| 09:31.47 | gnarface | at least for the video card part |
| 09:31.57 | gnarface | you could always use a usb ethernet device |
| 09:33.13 | FatPhil | asked the g/f what she wanted the hostname to be - and, no joke, she chose "thot". |
| 09:33.33 | gnarface | heh |
| 09:33.44 | FatPhil | yeah, win 10 wiped. |
| 09:35.23 | gnarface | nice |
| 09:35.23 | FatPhil | I always do bare bones expert install, then do some scripted configuration, and pull in only the packages I need, so we haven't dropped into X yet. |
| 09:35.47 | gnarface | did it boot right up or did you have to mess with firmware settings? |
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| 09:59.38 | FatPhil | fortunately it was already configured to not use secure boot, and everything just worked. |
| 09:59.56 | FatPhil | lenovo have always been pretty linux friendly. |
| 10:01.28 | gnarface | neat! |
| 10:01.32 | gnarface | good to know |
| 10:03.06 | fsmithred | I just installed linux on a friend's T430 recently and had no serious problems. Had to fiddle with it to get the speaker buttons to work. |
| 10:03.46 | fsmithred | It was a refurb with win10 and it was already set to legacy boot. |
| 10:08.57 | FatPhil | all hail refurbs! |
| 10:09.03 | surrounder | ^ |
| 10:09.11 | surrounder | pets his refurbished x220 |
| 10:19.27 | jaromil | real hackers use refurbs |
| 10:20.41 | gnarface | hey guys |
| 10:20.47 | gnarface | toshiba satellite 4015CDT |
| 10:20.54 | gnarface | just took the ascii update successfully! |
| 10:23.40 | gnarface | eh, too bad video support has been deprecated since jessie... |
| 10:24.46 | DonkeyHotei | deprecated? |
| 10:25.50 | gnarface | the cirrus logic driver |
| 10:26.33 | omnio | I use deprecated video too and I had to compile xf86-video-sis on ascii. on beowulf it doesn't even compile anymore |
| 10:30.25 | gnarface | DonkeyHotei: abandoned |
| 10:31.10 | drawkula | http://www.homebrewcpu.com/ |
| 10:31.21 | jaromil | gnu_srs1: good question on the packages needing attention for beowulf, anyone willing to make a list, can help a lot. all tests seem pretty smooth from what I read |
| 10:31.25 | drawkula | DIY has to strik back... |
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| 10:53.32 | Guest8854 | jaromil: Pls add upower to "your" list for "needing attention for beowulf" (if not already)? |
| 10:55.36 | Guest8854 | jaromil: ...and the dependencies conflict for b/c of slim/lightdm if task-xfce-desktop is installed with recommends [libpolkit-backend-consolekit-1-0]??? |
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| 12:56.02 | FatPhil | now writes the single most complicated makefile he's ever written, because 2 hours of scripting configuration can save 5 minutes of manual configuration! |
| 12:57.07 | FatPhil | It's a modification of the single most complicated makefile I'd ever written, which was definitely write-only, but alas my requirements have got more intricate. |
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| 14:14.52 | FatPhil | anyone know how to get a gnu to use -R -r behaviour (no builtins) using a directive in the makefile itself? |
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| 14:21.23 | FatPhil | info pages imply, through absense, that it's not possible. |
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