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| 00:31.52 | Centurion_Dan | ksx4system: hi, and welcome back! |
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| 07:06.55 | xrogaan | it happens right after console-setup.sh |
| 07:07.00 | xrogaan | or during |
| 07:08.53 | xrogaan | there is no start-daemon in console-setup |
| 07:09.08 | xrogaan | after it comes uuidd |
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| 07:19.00 | gnarface | as far as i know it should not be executable xrogaan |
| 07:19.21 | xrogaan | yeah |
| 07:19.33 | xrogaan | there is something weird going on with the init scripts, but I don't know what |
| 07:20.21 | xrogaan | The error always happens between "Setting up console font and keymap..." and "Starting uuid generator: uuidd" |
| 07:20.28 | xrogaan | as if some variable isn't set |
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| 07:59.27 | xrogaan | katolaz is gone? |
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| 08:37.04 | xrogaan | aah, fuck me |
| 08:37.13 | xrogaan | 10:DAEMON=/dev/null |
| 08:38.03 | xrogaan | because minidlna doesn't check if DAEMON is correct. |
| 08:38.51 | xrogaan | it does a [ -x "$DAEMON" ] || exit 0 |
| 08:39.11 | xrogaan | but /dev/null isn't *not* executable, so the init script should exit. |
| 08:39.52 | xrogaan | oh, wait, it does that before reading the defaults |
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| 11:24.41 | xenial64-user | hello you all. I'm trying to install devuan frugally but without succes. could someone point me in the right direction? a tutorial, a forum discussion page, or apdf guide will be great. |
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| 11:24.56 | xenial64-user | think to have problem about persistence |
| 11:26.48 | gnarface | you could always use debootstrap |
| 11:26.59 | gnarface | did you see the minimal-live image? |
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| 11:32.17 | xrogaan | isn't debootstrap about schroot? |
| 11:33.14 | gnarface | i don't see any reason it has to be |
| 11:34.02 | gnarface | you can also use it to make very minimal base installations |
| 11:34.06 | fsmithred | install guides are here: https://devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/ |
| 11:34.30 | fsmithred | xenial64-user, are you talking about persistence on a live-usb? |
| 11:46.06 | xenial64-user | I would like to boot using grub4dos( but I can chainload others boot system) ad choose between to run in ram, or to run saving changes to filesystem. I need something to read about that |
| 11:48.33 | gnarface | well i know you can set up regular grub to boot a live image from a harddrive partition just as easily as a normal install |
| 11:48.51 | gnarface | i thought you could boot dos just fine from it too |
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| 11:57.46 | fsmithred | boot live iso from hard drive: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=11556#p11556 |
| 11:58.54 | fsmithred | debian-live manual (for detailed information about persistence and much more) https://live-team.pages.debian.net/live-manual/html/live-manual/index.en.html |
| 12:06.11 | fsmithred | xenial64-user, are you sure grub4dos is still a thing? Looks like last version was 2009 and the redirect links to their new website are all dead. |
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| 12:09.42 | gnarface | i really think you can boot at least freedos with regular grub now |
| 12:09.52 | gnarface | i would assume that means regular dos works too |
| 12:09.58 | gnarface | perhaps that is naive |
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| 12:37.04 | xenial64-user | thanks for the answers. Grub4dos is good for me because I know it better than others. If I boot from iso, all works, but I can't save changes. the best would be to save changes in an additional file, like puppy linux does, if you know it. |
| 12:42.05 | gnarface | xenial64-user: there is some way to do persistence with a live image. if you do a google search for the way to do it with the debian live image, i think it might still be the same way... |
| 12:42.20 | gnarface | barring that, check the devuan forums |
| 12:43.49 | fsmithred | I use this to make live-usb (with or without persistence or encryption): https://sourceforge.net/projects/refracta/files/tools/refracta2usb-2.4.2.deb |
| 12:44.26 | fsmithred | readme https://refracta.org/docs/readme.refracta2usb.txt |
| 12:45.15 | fsmithred | I'll be gone for several hours. Look for me here later if you have questions about it. |
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| 12:48.54 | xenial64-user | thanks you, I will try with your suggestions , and read the linked pages |
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| 12:50.06 | xenial64-user | I have to go too, I will let you know later , or in the next days, if I solved the problem. thanks again |
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| 13:58.12 | gnarface | anyone have experience migrating custom roccat udev rules from udev to eudev? |
| 13:58.29 | gnarface | seem to have a ... intermittent failure to parse the rules? |
| 13:58.35 | gnarface | that ring a bell to anyone? |
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| 14:05.53 | gnarface | brb |
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| 18:45.32 | xrogaan | sorry, I haven't |
| 18:47.20 | xrogaan | Other weird stuff here, might be worrying for my hardware. Is it normal that after powering down everything by unplugging after a shutdown the identity of the SCSI device changed? |
| 18:48.01 | xrogaan | Before my system was on /dev/sdd1 and /dev/sdd6; but now it sits on /dev/sdc1 and /dev/sdc6 |
| 18:48.09 | xrogaan | that shouldn't be possible right? |
| 18:48.40 | xrogaan | The order should be set by the motherboard and be consistent. |
| 18:48.47 | xrogaan | Unless the motherboard is failing? |
| 18:50.32 | fsmithred | I haven't seen that happen, but I've heard it's possible, depending on the motherboard and how fast the drives spin up. |
| 18:51.03 | fsmithred | but if it's never happened before on that box, I'd be suspicious. |
| 18:53.18 | fsmithred | xrogaan, if you were using non-default boot order in the bios, check to see if it reverted to defaults |
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| 20:42.57 | xrogaan | yeah |
| 20:44.27 | fsmithred | and if it reverted to defaults after power off, check cmos battery |
| 20:44.48 | fsmithred | check/chuck |
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