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| 05:58.01 | se7en | I am having trouble installing packages via a tor proxy |
| 05:58.12 | se7en | interestingly this comes up when it is attempting |
| 05:58.18 | se7en | 0% [Connecting to SOCKS5h proxy (socks5h://localhost:9050)] |
| 05:58.22 | se7en | see that? that h? |
| 05:59.05 | se7en | I have in my sources.list the following with the only modification being -updates and so on, and then three lines of the same with deb-src |
| 05:59.09 | se7en | deb tor+http://devuanfwojg73k6r.onion/merged ascii main |
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| 08:23.39 | xinomilo | se7en, does restarting tor help? |
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| 08:29.09 | se7en | nI tried that |
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| 08:46.27 | drawkula | do other things work via tor? |
| 08:46.36 | xinomilo | the "h" is normal btw |
| 08:47.01 | xinomilo | resolvs hostname via socks server |
| 08:47.02 | drawkula | yes here too a "h" and I just updated 2 VMs via tor |
| 08:47.13 | xinomilo | needed for .onion |
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| 08:48.35 | drawkula | try torsocks ssh tyoqtejimniwumz6.onion |
| 08:48.50 | drawkula | just abort when you see the password prompt... |
| 08:49.57 | xinomilo | it gets stuck here sometimes as well, but restarting tor helps. |
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| 09:11.57 | FatPhil | can anyone think of a reason why one minute I can ssh through my natting router to a remote machine fine, and then only minutes later I get: ssh_exchange_identification: read: Connection reset by peer |
| 09:12.50 | gnarface | so many possible reasons |
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| 09:13.13 | gnarface | not many possible solutions |
| 09:13.14 | FatPhil | I've not changed anything at the far end. I can still get behind my router onto a different machine OK, so it's not the router failing. And from that machine, I can ssh to the one I actually want to be on. So it's not the target machine. |
| 09:13.45 | gnarface | yes |
| 09:13.52 | FatPhil | The change of state has worked both ways. After a bunch of fails, it suddenly worked, and then started failing again. |
| 09:14.05 | gnarface | yes, you've confirmed that it is not your fault |
| 09:14.34 | FatPhil | Not my active fault, but am I just being dumb and overlooking something? |
| 09:15.09 | gnarface | nothing comes to mind for me. it sounds like there's a connectivity failure between you and the server. it is unclear whether your ISP or the server hosting provider is at fault. |
| 09:15.41 | gnarface | you can try some traceroutes when it is acting up |
| 09:15.49 | xinomilo | ssh -vvv host ? |
| 09:16.00 | FatPhil | other failure modes this morning did include simply timing out too. None of my connections to one of the firewalled machines has dropped, and I'm never refused access to that single one. |
| 09:16.53 | gnarface | there has been some big DDOS attacks going on lately, it could have something to do with that |
| 09:17.18 | FatPhil | last line from -vvv before the connection reset is: debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.7p1 Debian-5+deb8u8 |
| 09:17.18 | gnarface | the host isn't at cloudflare by any chance, is it? |
| 09:17.42 | FatPhil | the host is my home/office network, hanging off a shitty ISP. |
| 09:18.48 | gnarface | well there could be some throttling or anti-DDOS filtering going on that they're still working the bugs out of, or it could just be regular incompetent routing |
| 09:19.38 | gnarface | if you run a traceroute *while* it's actually in the failure state, you might be able to see exactly at which hop the connection derails, then you have a better idea who to blame |
| 09:20.33 | FatPhil | this is me failing from the viewpoint of the target's auth.log: Jul 3 12:21:50 bispaz sshd[3992]: refused connect from 90.190.251.x (90.190.251.x) |
| 09:20.37 | gnarface | it's not necessarily either ISP, it could be possibly one of dozens of other companies in control of nodes that connect the path |
| 09:20.59 | FatPhil | no other logs within minutes of that. |
| 09:21.03 | gnarface | wait |
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| 09:21.21 | gnarface | the computer you're trying to connect TO logs the failure? |
| 09:21.32 | gnarface | as "refused connect" ? |
| 09:21.37 | gnarface | am i getting that right? |
| 09:21.39 | FatPhil | yarp |
| 09:21.53 | gnarface | hmmm, well that sorta blows the theory about it being an intermediary ... |
| 09:22.17 | gnarface | yikes unless it's a failed MITM attack.... |
| 09:22.28 | gnarface | oh boy |
| 09:22.54 | r3boot | FatPhil: do you have ssh keepalives configured? |
| 09:22.54 | gnarface | is there a chance this machine has more than one public IP? |
| 09:23.15 | FatPhil | Argh - pebcak - I modified hosts.allow |
| 09:23.19 | r3boot | some asinine firewalls will drop idle connections, leading to the connection reset by peer message |
| 09:23.37 | FatPhil | or, worse, my deployment script failed to modify it |
| 09:27.24 | FatPhil | The weird thing is that I didn't change the hosts.allow on the other machines I'm failing to get into (those might be timing out ones, not the rejected ones) |
| 09:27.45 | FatPhil | trying to juggle too many changes on too many machines presently, sorry. |
| 09:28.30 | FatPhil | OK, that machine fixed, and NIS works, to this is progress |
| 09:29.43 | FatPhil | Any ideas how to force umount a fs from a machine that has apparently died (no pings) |
| 09:32.17 | gnarface | maybe with magic sysrq keys if you have local access... |
| 09:34.16 | r3boot | umount -l |
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| 09:46.47 | FatPhil | r3boot: -l worked for some but not all, but now lunch time, and then to the office to get hands on (but making sure SSH worked from outside was one of my tasks this morning) |
| 09:47.35 | r3boot | Check! Also, be sure to check if you have ServerAliveInterval configured in ssh_config |
| 09:48.55 | FatPhil | yup, at least on the home (not office) main box. |
| 09:49.14 | FatPhil | thanks for all your help today and yesterday - I've been in a bit of a panic! |
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| 09:50.30 | FatPhil | To add the cherry on top, my phone service provider stopped my cellular data a couple of days back, as well as 3 machines half-dieing in the office at the same time. |
| 09:51.52 | FatPhil | I've been planning on replacing 2 of them with a new box for ages, but never got around to it. And then the HD errors appeared. And the spontanious reboots. And whatever's wrong with the 3rd one... |
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| 11:28.33 | Walex | FatPhil: the gods drive insane those they want to destroy :-) What have you done to get that? :-) |
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| 12:16.23 | FatPhil | Walex: putting off essential preparations until too late - my own stupid fault. The servers have lasted 12 years, they'll last another couple of months, right? |
| 12:17.03 | FatPhil | at least some progress was made. Once I'd fudged with the router settings, incoming mail worked first time... |
| 12:17.38 | FatPhil | And by incoming mail, I mean a million spammers, and alas fail2ban doesn't seem to be working :( |
| 12:18.36 | FatPhil | Annoyingly, fail2ban's changed how you configure it in the last few years, but that was a minor hiccup. It's now looking for the right things in the right files, but just not seeing them |
| 12:18.46 | onefang | I've noticed since ASCII fail2ban fails to ban. B-( |
| 12:22.06 | FatPhil | I'm ascii on that machine. |
| 12:23.15 | FatPhil | That really is a 8-(((((( for me - my domains are spam-magnets, I need all the help I can get. |
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| 12:55.33 | FatPhil | looks like fail2ban's changed significantly between jessie and ascii: https://repology.org/project/fail2ban/versions |
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| 13:05.25 | djph | FatPhil: fail2ban wouldn't necessarily do anything about email... |
| 13:05.53 | djph | FatPhil: I mean, if the "login" is perfectly fine, it's just going to pass it along to your MTA |
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| 13:20.10 | FatPhil | djph: It doesn't get in the way at all, that's not how it works. it scans log files for troublesome error messages that imply a brute force attack, or a known exploit attempt, etc. |
| 13:21.46 | FatPhil | e.g. this fokker should have been banned hours ago: /var/log# grep -o AUTH.* mail.log | sort | uniq -c | sort -n | tail -1 236 AUTH from unknown[182.108.1.24] |
| 13:22.06 | xinomilo | fail2ban-regex can help figure out the problem |
| 13:23.59 | Human_G33k | hello there are some trouble with repositories ? |
| 13:25.54 | onefang | What sort of problem are you having? |
| 13:28.08 | FatPhil | xinomilo: thanks - that shows me that with '^%(__prefix_line)s' at the start of the regexp it does not match the lines in the logs, but if I skip that bit, it matches hundreds of lines. |
| 13:28.31 | FatPhil | I'll backup the conf, and strip that bit out. |
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| 13:28.54 | Human_G33k | onefang, find old address |
| 13:29.08 | Human_G33k | with http |
| 13:29.15 | FatPhil | I presume it's read all the conf files and has expanded that variable identically to the program itself. |
| 13:29.15 | Human_G33k | but .onion |
| 13:29.26 | Human_G33k | still not working |
| 13:33.03 | onefang | I can't help with .onion stuff, I think someone mentioned that before, but I wasn't paying attention then. |
| 13:36.08 | FatPhil | xinomilo: a dozen probes seen visually in the logs that match the simpler regexp, but still fail2ban seems to have not noticed anything |
| 13:37.57 | xinomilo | are these recent? findtime variable? |
| 13:38.14 | FatPhil | oooh, not strictly true, it's just noticed one dodgy customer, after a hundred or so things from a dozen or so attackers. |
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| 13:40.53 | FatPhil | everything's recent, the mail server and fail2ban have only been active a couple of hours. |
| 13:41.48 | FatPhil | It does seem to be detecting one of the log lines now, I'll try to work out why it spots that one, but not the others (I'll put the dodgy prefix back into that regexp, and see if it still matches) |
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| 13:47.52 | xinomilo | default filters didn't work out of the box? usually it does.. |
| 13:48.13 | xinomilo | fail2ban.log can be a friend too |
| 13:48.25 | FatPhil | I tried shortened versions of the filters, and they do match, but the full ones seem not to |
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| 13:51.13 | FatPhil | e.g. withouth the 'proto=ESMTP' bit, I find 18 hits, but only 2 match that. |
| 13:53.06 | xinomilo | which filter are you trying? name? |
| 13:53.52 | xinomilo | fail2ban 0.10? |
| 13:54.43 | FatPhil | postfix, vanilla ascii apart from 1 additional regexp added. |
| 13:54.59 | FatPhil | fail2ban-regex /var/log/mail.log '^%(__prefix_line)s.*<HOST>' |
| 13:55.09 | FatPhil | Lines: 3478 lines, 0 ignored, 0 matched, 3478 missed |
| 13:55.49 | FatPhil | That prefix bit is toxic, it's making nothing match (just '<HOST>' matches all 3478 lines) |
| 14:02.31 | xinomilo | fail2ban-regex /var/log/mail.log /etc/fail2ban/filter.d/postfix.conf |
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| 14:07.03 | FatPhil | xinomilo: 139 matches for the new regexp I just added, and 20 for the stock one I tweaked from ESMTP to E?SMTP. |
| 14:07.24 | FatPhil | Current score, stock fail2ban 2 - 140 FatPhil |
| 14:12.39 | FatPhil | Another regexp added and I'm matching nearly 1000 lines now, and fail2ban has started to notice them. |
| 14:13.12 | FatPhil | and we have 5 strikes! 2019-07-03 16:33:59,292 fail2ban.actions [21012]: NOTICE [postfix] Ban 45.13.39.53 |
| 14:13.34 | FatPhil | So it was just shitty filters that were the problem, nothing more. |
| 14:14.19 | fsmithred | Human_G33k, what's happening? Can you do 'apt updtate'? |
| 14:14.44 | FatPhil | xinomilo: a million thanks for the fail2ban-regexp suggestion - that was a life saver! |
| 14:14.53 | xinomilo | np :) |
| 14:16.26 | FatPhil | onefang: I think we have the tech to fix your fail2ban problems now, if it still matters. |
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| 14:17.01 | Human_G33k | fsmithred, for tor repo yes |
| 14:17.10 | Human_G33k | but can t install |
| 14:17.14 | onefang | I wasn't really paying attention, but you are only fixing the detection side? |
| 14:17.31 | FatPhil | onefang: yes |
| 14:17.33 | fsmithred | ok, I just did an update with tor repos, now I need to think of something to install |
| 14:18.30 | onefang | That side was working fine for me, it's the actual banning that's not working for me. As I said, fail2ban is failing to ban. |
| 14:19.06 | fsmithred | Human_G33k, I just installed mousepad with no problem. |
| 14:19.24 | fsmithred | I did have trouble running the update until I restarted tor, then it was ok. |
| 14:19.25 | FatPhil | Ah, OK. I was failing to ban too, because I was failing to detect :-I |
| 14:19.52 | FatPhil | But I guess I should check my iptables, and verify that banning has occured |
| 14:26.20 | xinomilo | onefang, what's banaction? tried banning something manually? |
| 14:26.50 | onefang | Just the defaults. |
| 14:27.13 | onefang | I'm trying to concentrate on something else right now. |
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