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| 08:12.24 | Evilham | Fun :-) |
| 08:13.05 | onefang | I haven't managed to look at that yet. Been busy all day. |
| 08:13.11 | Evilham | Fwiw: I said I'd check consistency, not accuracy :-D. Some things I've patched as I spot them |
| 08:13.25 | Evilham | Will try to take a look over the day at this mirror |
| 08:13.35 | onefang | Cool. |
| 08:14.06 | onefang | And let me know the full details of the problem. I can't spot it. |
| 08:14.11 | Evilham | I've focused more on keeping deb.devuan.org tested since that affects most people when misbehaving |
| 08:14.26 | Evilham | Assuming I figure it out! Yes :-D |
| 08:14.39 | onefang | Is there something subtle apt is doing that we are not testing for maybe? |
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| 08:53.43 | Evilham | concatime: it looks to me like mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan should work |
| 08:54.51 | Evilham | (notice, without merged) |
| 09:00.15 | onefang | concatime left many hours ago. |
| 09:05.32 | Evilham | pf actually that mirror is being super strange |
| 09:05.51 | onefang | We noticed. lol |
| 09:06.01 | Evilham | it looked like it was working |
| 09:06.29 | onefang | Yep, my script didn't find any problem. |
| 09:06.55 | onefang | Does yours? |
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| 09:09.23 | onefang | That's the problem with these sorts of checkers, the goal is to find the problems. Hard to make sure you have tested for all of the strange problems. |
| 09:14.59 | Evilham | it's not a strange problem, the rewrites do work with /devuan/devuan as a base URL, but the distribution files don't |
| 09:15.10 | Evilham | it's something that we should test for in a standard fashion |
| 09:15.27 | Evilham | aka, this list of files: https://dev1.cloud/mirrors |
| 09:16.29 | Evilham | so, current script, the one that sends the email to the mirrors ML doesn't check for release files and the like and this particular mirror doesn't have a base URL that does both things right |
| 09:16.41 | Evilham | it either has the dist files but no redirects or it has redirects but no dist files |
| 09:16.45 | onefang | Those are the files I'm testing for, got that from your scripts. |
| 09:17.16 | Evilham | then you should see it fail either on Release and Packages.gz or on /pool/DE{VU,BI}AN |
| 09:17.35 | Evilham | cd |
| 09:17.39 | Evilham | oops |
| 09:18.40 | onefang | Yes, getting 404s on the Release files. |
| 09:19.13 | Evilham | there you go then, it is properly setup for deb.devuan.org, so that's good |
| 09:20.03 | Evilham | I added a note that the mirror is only usable over deb.devuan.org, we should ping the mirror admins |
| 09:20.21 | Evilham | (the note should be visible in about 40 mins) |
| 09:20.43 | onefang | Or less. B-) |
| 09:20.51 | Evilham | anyway, everything looks decent on mirror land, I'm off \o |
| 09:21.06 | onefang | See you. |
| 09:32.06 | kts | Is there KDE in Devuan? |
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| 10:14.15 | onefang | A friend of mine is trying to get Devuan stuff installed on a QEMU VM running under Windows 10. Twice now an apt or apt-get install command screwed with her screen, spewing blank lines all over it. Has anyone seen that sort of thing before? i haven't. |
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| 10:42.58 | climbingturtle | onefang: Does it happens inside an DE or at cli? |
| 10:43.39 | onefang | cli, it's a minimal install. |
| 10:46.18 | climbingturtle | oh, I would be it was dirvers for graphics and DE. I have not expereinced it my self, though I have never run qemu on windows. |
| 10:46.32 | onefang | Neither have I. |
| 10:47.18 | climbingturtle | Does it only occurs with apt update and upgrade commands |
| 10:47.21 | climbingturtle | ? |
| 10:47.24 | onefang | I've used it a lot from a variety of Linux OSes. Sometimes with Windows as the guest. |
| 10:48.03 | onefang | No, tee last one was apt-get install a big bunch of stuff. The first one was an update / upgrade. |
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| 15:06.33 | jiefk | Hi! I installed Devuan (from devuan_ascii_amd64_netinstall.iso, then upgraded to beowulf) on a laptop today. All is OK so far, except two things : |
| 15:07.28 | jiefk | I have to wait a quite-not-so-short time staring at "Waiting for /dev to be fully populated..." |
| 15:07.45 | jiefk | What could cause such a behaviour? |
| 15:08.38 | jiefk | (I had to install various non-free firmwares (I guess) due to some messages appearing in dmesg |
| 15:09.11 | drawkula | maybe its the action after this that has a delay befor outputting anything? |
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| 15:10.52 | jiefk | I don't know, but there's this thing [....] in front of the action that get changed to [.OK.] when done ? |
| 15:15.41 | jiefk | it seems eth0 is taking some time to be configured also. |
| 15:17.27 | jiefk | When I unplug the eth cable, it takes far more time ("waiting for /dev....." and "Configuring network interface"), slowing the boot time to about 2 minutes |
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| 15:18.44 | jiefk | is there some way to at least disable the waiting for eth0 to be ready ? (considering it to be a laptop on wifi) |
| 15:20.03 | gnarface | jiefk: maybe a problem with your DHCP server... try a static ip for eth0 |
| 15:20.44 | fsmithred | there's a patch for the eth0 delay - I'll find it |
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| 15:21.56 | fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/search.php?search_id=2119130902 |
| 15:25.45 | jiefk | fsmithred: Thanks for your input. Can you please link to the actual topic ? (I can't read the search results... "You are not logged in.") |
| 15:27.20 | fsmithred | sorry |
| 15:27.52 | fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=15493#p15493 |
| 15:29.30 | fsmithred | jiefk, I recommend applying the patch manually, in case there's a difference in the script due to version differences |
| 15:29.56 | fsmithred | I've used this same bit of code in ascii and beowulf |
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| 15:30.39 | jiefk | yes, thanks ! |
| 15:31.53 | jiefk | I'll try that |
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| 15:57.11 | jiefk | yep fsmithred |
| 15:58.05 | jiefk | this works but as Geoff42 from the forum says, $iface and $link are not set |
| 15:58.31 | jiefk | (this works as "boots faster") |
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| 16:22.06 | fsmithred | jiefk, $iface and $link get set in the case statement above. If there's more than one in that list, I guess it will be set to the last one. |
| 16:23.54 | fsmithred | (in the for loop above) This: for iface in $(ifquery --list --allow=hotplug) |
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| 17:46.30 | jiefk | fsmithred: id the laptop case, I see (at boot time, and also on service restart) `sys/class/net//operstate` (you see the missing $link between both // |
| 17:47.02 | jiefk | -id +in |
| 17:47.46 | jiefk | missing $link in this command : `if [ "$(cat /sys/class/net/$link/operstate)" = up ]` |
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| 17:58.42 | fsmithred | jiefk, do you have at least one interface set to "allow-hotplug"? |
| 18:00.44 | jiefk | yep, eth0 ; I even manually added wlan0 too! |
| 18:01.47 | jiefk | # ifquery --list --allow=hotplug |
| 18:01.53 | fsmithred | hm, I switched my eth0 and wlan0 to allow-hotplug for testing, and now I can't access that computer |
| 18:01.55 | fsmithred | shit |
| 18:01.56 | jiefk | shows both interfaces. |
| 18:02.12 | jiefk | argh sorry :/ |
| 18:03.46 | fsmithred | no biggie - I just had to get up out of the chair |
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| 18:11.38 | fsmithred | ok, it would also help if I had network cables with little locking clips on the ends |
| 18:11.49 | fsmithred | so they would stay plugged in |
| 18:12.47 | fsmithred | anyway, I'm thinking the "ip link set $iface up" line should be in the for loop or have its own for loop. |
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| 18:53.06 | PinkBellyNagger | alright fellas? |
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| 19:08.24 | Nematocyst | I need to solve why my system requires /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper to be group mlocate. every time I update dbus, the packaged one is group messagebus, which prevents slim from launching the DE [slim: open_session: Unable to open session: Failed to execute program org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit: Permission denied] changing back to group mlocate solves it until the next dbus update. what to change to permanently solve this |
| 19:08.25 | Nematocyst | issue? |
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| 19:40.18 | fsmithred | jiefk, you here? I tried a modified patch. |
| 19:40.32 | jiefk | yup, I'm here |
| 19:41.04 | fsmithred | I put these two lines: |
| 19:41.10 | fsmithred | ip link set "$iface" up || true |
| 19:41.10 | fsmithred | if [ "$(cat /sysclass/net/$link/operstate)" = up ] |
| 19:41.21 | fsmithred | in place of this line: (gimme a sec) |
| 19:41.44 | fsmithred | if [ -e "/sys/class/net/$link" ] |
| 19:41.59 | fsmithred | all in ifup_hotplug() |
| 19:42.08 | fsmithred | it seems to be working |
| 19:42.16 | fsmithred | sort of |
| 19:42.40 | fsmithred | both eth0 and wlan0 are set to allow-hotplug and dhcp in interfaces |
| 19:43.08 | fsmithred | there's no delay at boot with wire plugged in or not plugged in |
| 19:43.20 | fsmithred | with wire plugged in, eth0 gets an address |
| 19:43.34 | fsmithred | with wire out at boot, if I plug it in, it does not get an address |
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| 19:45.02 | jiefk | ok. I have some question : Can I -try to- rewrite this function as a whole ? This script (this function seems a bit hackish... |
| 19:45.25 | fsmithred | sure, you can change it any way you want. Keep a copy of the original. |
| 19:45.44 | fsmithred | caveat: I don't really know what I'm doing. |
| 19:46.04 | jiefk | I'll try something and see if it works. I'll come to you later if I get something less hacked |
| 19:46.28 | fsmithred | great. If you can come up with something better, I can find people to test it. |
| 19:47.07 | fsmithred | maybe this should be part of the devuan-sanity package |
| 19:47.54 | fsmithred | oh. ...if that ever gets packaged. |
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| 20:05.25 | jiefk | This script is a spaghetti :D |
| 20:10.40 | jiefk | fsmithred: Can you try this function ? https://paste.debian.net/1089761/ |
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| 20:20.05 | jiefk | Hum no not yet, I still have to wait for eth0 :/ |
| 20:20.44 | fsmithred | oh |
| 20:24.48 | jiefk | I see that mooded the script from a pristine networking file :-\ |
| 20:24.52 | jiefk | Modded |
| 20:25.32 | jiefk | I apply now the patch you gave me before |
| 20:25.56 | jiefk | The one from dev1galaxy forum |
| 20:26.18 | fsmithred | I just made one that's a combination of mine and yours |
| 20:26.21 | fsmithred | no delay |
| 20:27.37 | fsmithred | and eth0 gets an address when I plug it in |
| 20:28.32 | fsmithred | https://termbin.com/69we |
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| 20:37.49 | fsmithred | jiefk, I tried my first mod again, but I changed ifup $ifaces "$@" to ifup "$@" $ifaces and it works. |
| 20:38.06 | fsmithred | eth0 gets an address when I plug in the cable |
| 20:38.41 | jiefk | I have something that works too :-) |
| 20:39.19 | jiefk | I'll post it somewhere in a few secs |
| 20:42.03 | jiefk | pastebin.debian.net/1089763 |
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| 20:46.48 | fsmithred | Is there really an extra close-parenthesis in that function? |
| 20:47.22 | fsmithred | there's on after the ifaces=$(blah) and then another after the "done" |
| 20:47.33 | fsmithred | on/one |
| 20:48.12 | fsmithred | that link isn't working for me |
| 20:49.25 | fsmithred | ok, it's nested parens - I see it now. |
| 20:49.26 | jiefk | https://paste.debian.net/1089763 |
| 20:49.54 | jiefk | sorry, I wrote it from my head |
| 20:49.58 | fsmithred | got it. will test |
| 20:57.03 | fsmithred | no delay on that last one, but also no ip address after plugging cable |
| 20:58.00 | jiefk | yup, just rebooted after plugged-unplugged the cable that's what I observed as well |
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| 21:12.09 | fsmithred | jiefk, do you have any other thoughts on this? I'm going to post the two variants that work on that d1g thread. |
| 21:12.50 | jiefk | no but gimme a few minutes :) |
| 21:12.55 | fsmithred | ok |
| 21:13.13 | jiefk | Got an ip !! |
| 21:13.33 | jiefk | from the patch at dev1galaxy |
| 21:13.42 | fsmithred | oh? |
| 21:13.57 | fsmithred | without changing it? |
| 21:14.09 | jiefk | there's this action "echo "$iface" |
| 21:14.18 | fsmithred | yeah, what's that about? |
| 21:14.56 | jiefk | no idea, but I replaced it with an ifup command and I failed to obtain an ip address |
| 21:15.21 | jiefk | I put bach this echo command and I got the IP |
| 21:15.44 | jiefk | I'll reboot a few times more, and I get back at you |
| 21:15.52 | fsmithred | ok |
| 21:17.07 | concatime | yo, why isnt rDNS for ipv6 easy to setup? |
| 21:17.23 | concatime | "we use tools such as sipcalc, subnetcalc to find the usable IPv6 ranges in the subnet" |
| 21:17.34 | concatime | https://bobcares.com/blog/vultr-reverse-dns/ |
| 21:18.06 | jiefk | I suppose the whole function goal is to return the interfaces to be processed later |
| 21:18.59 | jiefk | I was trying to get the interface up inside the function and maybe this was not the time to bring the network up yet...? |
| 21:19.18 | jiefk | I really don't know, . |
| 21:20.34 | jiefk | New reboot : interfaces are ready --unplugged of course, so no IP. When I plug the cable, eth0 got an IP :) |
| 21:20.56 | jiefk | reboot now, with cable plugged |
| 21:21.39 | fsmithred | I just tried the one from the thread, and I get an ip on eth0 when I plug in the cable, but wlan0 is DOWN |
| 21:21.39 | jiefk | Oh and best of all, no delay in the boot sequence :) |
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| 21:22.23 | fsmithred | I think that patch will only affect one interface |
| 21:23.56 | jiefk | fsmithred: try from this paste (https://paste.debian.net/1089763) to replace : |
| 21:24.07 | fsmithred | one of my mods has ifup in the for loop and it works |
| 21:24.10 | jiefk | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.33 | jiefk | with |
| 21:24.42 | jiefk | echo "$iface" |
| 21:25.27 | jiefk | can you post your code, please? |
| 21:26.09 | fsmithred | https://termbin.com/69we |
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| 21:27.05 | jiefk | yes, you have both the echo cmd and the ifup cmd |
| 21:27.26 | jiefk | I bet that if you comment the ifup command, it will still work :) |
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| 21:33.48 | jiefk | Also |
| 21:34.17 | jiefk | you have a syntax errot : /sysclass/net/$link/operstate is missing a / |
| 21:34.22 | jiefk | after sys |
| 21:34.52 | jiefk | error* |
| 21:37.47 | fsmithred | that's my rubber keyboard - have to press hard |
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| 21:41.47 | jiefk | fsmithred: ok now I think I'm satisfied with what I have. Wifi does not get an IP because I did not hardcode SSID and passphrase in network/interfaces |
| 21:41.52 | fsmithred | yeah, it works with the ifup commented out |
| 21:42.02 | fsmithred | yeah, neither did I |
| 21:42.23 | jiefk | but wlan sure if raised up :) |
| 21:42.37 | jiefk | is* |
| 21:42.40 | fsmithred | mine says state DOWN |
| 21:43.00 | jiefk | do you have that allow-hotplug ? |
| 21:43.04 | fsmithred | yes |
| 21:43.12 | jiefk | hum... |
| 21:43.24 | fsmithred | gonna turn off encryption and try it |
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| 21:45.37 | jiefk | what gives this command for you ? `ifquery --list --allow=hotplug` |
| 21:47.32 | fsmithred | eth0 and wlan0 on separate lines |
| 21:48.01 | jiefk | yes, that's what is expected. |
| 21:49.27 | jiefk | trien running ip link set wlan0 up |
| 21:49.28 | jiefk | ? |
| 21:49.33 | jiefk | -n +d |
| 21:50.57 | jiefk | dunno what to expect... |
| 21:51.37 | jiefk | check mannually if cat "/sys/class/net/whan0/operstate" says "up" |
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| 21:51.50 | jiefk | wlan* |
| 21:52.47 | fsmithred | ip link does nothing. operstate says down |
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| 21:53.32 | jiefk | me neither, ip link does nothing ., echo $? just after says 0 |
| 21:54.00 | jiefk | but I have my interface up :/ |
| 21:54.41 | jiefk | oh no it's down |
| 21:55.24 | jiefk | but is it not expected because I did not give SSID and passwd? |
| 21:55.38 | jiefk | I'll try that. |
| 21:56.02 | fsmithred | that's what I'm doing now |
| 21:56.03 | jiefk | but don't remember the syntax. |
| 21:58.22 | jiefk | I misunderstood because wlan was listed in ifconfig |
| 21:59.00 | fsmithred | oh |
| 21:59.08 | fsmithred | I have a sample somewhere |
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| 21:59.56 | fsmithred | Scroll down to the bottom: https://refracta.org/docs/Release_Notes_9.0.txt |
| 22:08.53 | fsmithred | also missing a "fi" in the one I pasted |
| 22:09.06 | fsmithred | right before the close of the function |
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| 22:09.17 | fsmithred | time for food. bbiab |
| 22:09.38 | jiefk | definitely something fishy here. |
| 22:09.51 | jiefk | the boot delay comes back now ¬¬ |
| 22:12.18 | concatime | The expert installer requires a netmask. From my VPS provider, itâs "64" |
| 22:12.39 | concatime | but the installer does not aloud me to enter only this |
| 22:12.56 | fsmithred | usually it uses dhcp |
| 22:13.10 | fsmithred | unless you say you want to set up network manually |
| 22:13.17 | concatime | I want a manual setup |
| 22:13.31 | fsmithred | I don't think 64 is enough for a netmask |
| 22:13.49 | fsmithred | usually it's 255.255.255.0 |
| 22:13.50 | concatime | https://bobcares.com/wp-content/uploads/vultr_ipv6-768x188.png |
| 22:14.04 | fsmithred | I know nothing of ipv6 |
| 22:14.34 | concatime | Iâm new too :) |
| 22:16.38 | concatime | I will look in debian channel |
| 22:18.28 | jiefk | fsmithred: bed time here. I'll look more at this tomorrow. GN ! |
| 22:22.30 | fsmithred | g'night jiefk |
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| 23:53.33 | xrogaan | fsmithred: do you know if deb.devuan function properly yet again? |
| 23:53.54 | xrogaan | and if there is a place to find more about the state of the different broken stuff when they do get broken? |
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