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04:23.54 | nminix | ello |
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04:27.54 | gnarface | hello nminix |
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04:36.18 | nminix | Devuan has no loop devices :F (it's ok though I just created with mknod -m 660 loop0 b 7 0) |
04:36.27 | nminix | this is by design, yes? |
04:49.48 | gnarface | nminix: uh, yes and no. i think you probably just forgot to install a package. |
04:50.17 | gnarface | i think some daemon normally makes them for you but if you did a minimal install you might be missing it |
04:50.45 | gnarface | udev or udisks2 maybe |
04:50.52 | gnarface | there might be more than one option actually |
04:51.18 | gnarface | but obviously if you prefer to make them manually that is fine too |
04:52.03 | nminix | oh. i did ascii desktop-live from usb and used refracinstaller-yad |
04:52.20 | nminix | yeah as long as it's working as it should |
04:52.25 | gnarface | ah, interesting choice |
04:53.08 | gnarface | you get more pre-install control with a regular installation iso |
04:53.39 | gnarface | (just fyi) |
04:53.57 | gnarface | like one of the the netinstall images for example |
04:54.30 | nminix | i tried those first, they didn't boot on my laptop from Heads :/ |
04:54.42 | gnarface | oh. hmmm. well you can probably just compare a package list with someone who did an install like that to see what you might have missed that would have normally been included by default |
04:54.54 | nminix | and in fact none of the jessie images booted, so i had to go with ascii |
04:55.15 | gnarface | that probably means the jessie kernel is too old for your hardware |
04:57.18 | gnarface | can't say for sure why the ascii installer wouldn't have booted for you but the live image would. maybe some bios/uefi issue |
04:57.31 | nminix | today i built a new kernel (still Roaring Lionus :)) and compiled new loop.ko driver for loopaes support |
04:57.46 | nminix | yeah it's bios, librem 15 v4 |
04:57.53 | nminix | coreboot |
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05:00.10 | gnarface | do you have the util-linux package? |
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05:01.45 | gnarface | hmmm, or maybe they moved it to mount |
05:02.08 | gnarface | make sure you have udev or eudev |
05:02.32 | gnarface | and make sure this returns something: dpkg -S losetup |
05:03.36 | gnarface | i don't think you need udisks2 for this but you might for something else related you would expect to be automatic (auto-mounting and/or mount buttons in the desktop UI?) |
05:05.11 | nminix | yea i patched & built util-linux |
05:11.32 | nminix | oooo okay i forgot to make loop-control |
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05:16.50 | nminix | mknod -m 600 loop-control c 10 237 should do it... |
05:17.46 | nminix | nop |
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05:22.16 | gnarface | i dunno, but for a while i was using losetup to make them manually |
05:22.19 | gnarface | i think? |
05:23.24 | gnarface | but i think udev is making them for me now |
05:23.29 | gnarface | i haven't had to make one manually in a while |
05:24.55 | nminix | losetup won't work properly without existing /dev/loop-control i thimk |
05:25.21 | gnarface | very possibly. i do have both here |
05:25.32 | gnarface | and for all i know, that's what udev is calling |
05:26.13 | gnarface | if you're avoiding udev because of the systemd heredity, try out eudev instead |
05:26.23 | nminix | yea i have eudev installed |
05:27.46 | gnarface | <PROTECTED> |
05:27.56 | gnarface | "loop" shows up in these files for me |
05:28.31 | gnarface | but i'm sitting on an upgraded unstable system here, so it is hard to know where i got those files |
05:29.02 | gnarface | if they came from debian or devuan |
05:29.05 | gnarface | if they're before or after systemd |
05:29.28 | gnarface | if they're from current unstable or a previous unstable |
05:30.25 | nminix | hahha :p yeah this install on devuan is my new clean base system, on which i'll run VMs |
05:31.01 | nminix | shopping time for me now, if anyone knows how to create loop-control pls let me know! thanks |
05:32.58 | gnarface | all i see about it in my installed files is the man page (/usr/share/man/man4/loop-control.4.gz) but that man page says the kernel is supposed to create it |
05:33.11 | gnarface | so maybe it's a kernel compilation option you need to enable? |
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05:33.28 | gnarface | or a module you need to load |
05:34.04 | gnarface | actually the module might be called "loop" |
05:35.06 | gnarface | well there's a module called loop that is related, but i'm not sure if it's concerned with auto-generating them |
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06:24.49 | nminix | there are only six kernel config options which have "loop" in them. CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=n #CONFIG_NVME_TARGET_LOOP is not set CONFIG_LOOPBACK_TARGET=m #CONFIG_SPI_LOOPBACK_TEST is not set CONFIG_RC_LOOPBACK=m CONFIG_SND_ALOOP=m |
06:26.27 | nminix | don't think it's any of the loopback ones, nor SND. |
06:26.53 | nminix | loopaes.README says we have to set blk dev loop to n |
06:27.16 | drawkula | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP? |
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06:30.33 | rrq | I have added "/etc/modprobe.d/loop.conf:options loop max_part=15" to allow the loop devices have .. don't remember where I got the advice from |
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06:30.53 | rrq | + parts |
06:42.49 | drawkula | i have no rules for loop and "mount -oloop" works (ascii from netinstall) |
06:43.26 | drawkula | but RL is calling... need to beam away... |
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06:52.02 | nminix | i found blog.lvu.kr/linux-loop-device through google with your help rrq and added to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="loop.max_part=31" and rebooted but no loop devices still :( |
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07:04.37 | gnarface | nminix: yea, like rrq says, you need CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=m too |
07:07.47 | nminix | rrq & gnarface oh umm i'm following what loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README says |
07:08.14 | gnarface | is that something for encryption? |
07:08.45 | nminix | yea loopaes, baked into the loop.ko module |
07:10.05 | nminix | driver* |
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07:15.48 | nminix | "new loop.ko on 2.6.x that is installed in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/extra (2.6.x and newer kernels) directory. AES cipher is permanently glued to loop.o driver so that when loop.o is loaded it automagically has AES support built in." |
07:16.09 | nminix | 2.6.x and newer* |
07:17.33 | rrq | ok. my mind was in wrong context. though, hte instructions don't mention 'depmod'... is that too old-fashioned? |
07:23.20 | nminix | . /sbin/depmod -> /bin/kmod on ascii |
07:38.46 | rrq | it's a while since I built modules; I just remembered tearing hair a couple of times when I forgot to run depmod. |
07:39.49 | rrq | sorry for the noise. |
07:40.13 | nminix | ?? you're helpful! |
07:40.56 | nminix | this is my first time i've been building a kernel :) |
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07:49.44 | nminix | welcome all |
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08:42.41 | nminix | rrq & gnarface i think youse are correct. CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP should be m. i wonder why loopaes readme says "*must* ... DEV_LOOP=n" |
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08:48.40 | gnarface | nminix: is it possible the other instructions are for building an out-of-tree version you no longer need? |
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08:54.20 | nminix | i must be half asleep |
08:54.43 | nminix | it says what to do in the readme. |
08:56.10 | nminix | Workaround for distros that do not create any pre-existing loop block |
08:56.11 | nminix | special device nodes: " |
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21:31.58 | concatime | Hi folks. |
21:32.02 | concatime | Iâm a big fan, continue! Itâs the second time I report this issue. The mirror from Koddos is not working as expected. |
21:32.09 | concatime | https://mirror.vpgrp.io/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
21:32.13 | concatime | https://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
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21:37.03 | concatime | But using the IP directly works perfectly. |
21:37.05 | concatime | http://31.220.0.151/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
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21:38.42 | sixwheeledbeast | dns then? |
21:39.35 | concatime | I rather think about a missing redirection. |
21:41.00 | concatime | KatolaZ told me in November that he contacted koddos. |
21:42.16 | sixwheeledbeast | devuan/merged/pool doesn't exist |
21:44.13 | concatime | https://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan/pool//main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
21:44.16 | concatime | does work |
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21:53.52 | concatime | Yeah, itâs definitely a missing redirection: /devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/(.*) -> /devuan/devuan/pool/$1 |
21:54.00 | concatime | from https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt |
21:54.12 | concatime | Does not work: https://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
21:54.26 | concatime | Does work: https://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
22:05.49 | concatime | Does work: http://31.220.0.151/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
22:06.02 | concatime | Does work: http://31.220.0.151/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
22:06.18 | concatime | Does work: http://31.220.0.151/devuan/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
22:06.24 | concatime | Does not work: http://31.220.0.151/devuan/devuan/pool/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb |
22:07.51 | onefang | I just woke up, and haven't had brekky yet. This is the sort of thing that the mirror checker script I'm writing is for. It's at the "seems to work" stage, still needs to get to the "actually does a proper job" stage. |
22:08.07 | onefang | Gimme a few minutes, I'l see what it reports for that file. |
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22:09.04 | concatime | Men, Iâm lost in all these redirections! Take your time. |
22:10.20 | onefang | My mirror checker script specifically delves deep into the rediretions, and multiple DNS records, probing each one all the way through. |
22:18.15 | onefang | What results are you seeing? 404? |
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22:23.20 | concatime | yes |
22:25.09 | onefang | https://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb works for me. The official mirror list says that mirror is at mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan Not mirror.koddos.net/devuan |
22:26.30 | onefang | http://31.220.0.151/devuan/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb also works. |
22:27.00 | onefang | https://31.220.0.151/devuan/devuan/merged/pool/DEVUAN/main/u/util-linux/util-linux_2.32.1-0.1+devuan2.1_amd64.deb fails, coz the certificate is for the domain name, not the IP. |
22:29.42 | onefang | And I just uncovered a minor flaw in my checker script. lol |
22:30.11 | onefang | But the above results are valid, the checker script was just not checking one of those. |
22:31.50 | concatime | Ah ok, thank you |
22:33.30 | concatime | You should add HTTPS to koddos in http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt |
22:35.19 | onefang | Yeah a few of those Protocols lines are inaccurate, Evilham said he'll double check them all soon. The one for my mirror was to, but he fixed that at least. |
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22:35.56 | onefang | I'm the new Devaun mirror admin, but very new, I haven't been given the keys to the kingdom yet. |
22:36.58 | onefang | Or "mirror herder" as I like to call it. B-) |
22:37.16 | concatime | Hahah |
22:37.40 | concatime | One last question, I should replace `deb http://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/merged ascii` by what |
22:38.39 | concatime | deb http://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan ? |
22:39.42 | onefang | deb http://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan/merged ascii Or for one of the other NL mirrors (mine) deb http://sledjhamr.org/devuan/merged ascii |
22:40.06 | concatime | http://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan/merged 404 |
22:41.32 | concatime | Error 404 |
22:43.51 | onefang | Hmmm, the mirror list says devuan/devuan, and that works when grabbing the file using wget, but not when putting http://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan/merged into a web browser, where a single /devuan works. |
22:44.08 | onefang | Try mine. At least i can fix that. B-) |
22:44.10 | concatime | That what I said |
22:44.21 | concatime | The issue from the beguining |
22:44.45 | concatime | Dontât take it personal, but I prefer a company-backed mirror. |
22:45.04 | concatime | http://31.220.0.151/merged seems to work |
22:45.10 | concatime | (koddos) |
22:45.31 | onefang | Might be something odd in their rewrite rules, as you suggested. |
22:45.50 | onefang | Something my mirror checker will need to test for. |
22:46.51 | onefang | Does devuan/devuan/merged actually work if it's in your sources.lst? |
22:47.42 | concatime | Only the ip one |
22:47.43 | concatime | http://maemo.cloud-7.de/irclogs/freenode/_devuan/_devuan.2018-11-16.log.html#t2018-11-16T18:57:16 |
22:48.16 | onefang | Hmm, I'll need to investigate more after I wake up properly. |
22:49.07 | onefang | Or maybe Evilham can shed more light on this. |
22:49.30 | concatime | I think `deb http://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan` work. |
22:50.14 | concatime | nop |
22:50.18 | concatime | does not |
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